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5.2.1413 mUn Base - Pandora 02.x2 ROM Beta

Why am I posting a new build?
1. Additional applications over first beta test.
2. Batter life has shown to be good.
3. Reports of A2DP working.
4. Looking for bigger audience to test before releasing.
5. Stable operation - more than 2 days without reset and counting.
6. Extensive use of compression where possible.
7. Results of testing are fed back into Pandora's Box Kitchen.
Here's the stats:
02.12 and 02.22
X-Button 1.0
Mobile Justice
Notepad
PHM Reg Editor
PIM Backup 1.9
Pocket RAR
ShutXP
SMS Backup
Start Clean
Total Commander 2
WM5torage 1.7
Zip
Transcriber
Enterprise
Entertainment
Office 2007
VoIP (02.22 only - not enough space in 02.12 due to VC)
BtCrawler
MMS
Windows Live
Camera
Camera Themes
Windows Media Player
WMP Today Plugin
PocketXPDF
XCPU Scaler 2.96 (this appears to be a pay-for-use software... removing from next rev... try omapclockplus)
Custom Keyboard
Voice Speed Dial (02.22)
Voice Command (02.12)
Disconnect Button GPRS fix
Lunar Calander
Time Sync Tab
Error Reporting disabled
Disable security warning
Cleartype in landscape
Emable 802.11g
increase ring volume
enable clock on all screens
show slideout keyboard capsdot
Tomorrow's Appointments
Two seperate roms, one with Voice Speed Dialer, and one with Voice Command. Otherwise, they're exactly the same. They include the camera themes.
Issues:
BatteryStatus doesn't seem to report batter draw correctly. I would recommend using either Smartkey and OMAP - or no overclock at all!
There may / may not be issues with Java or Flash in IE. Not confirmed, or solution provided (yet).
This build has lots of packages / fixes / perks from all around the forum. When the beta is done, the release I will attempt to give credit where known / due.
Here's the numbers(02.22):
Storage: 44.12
Program: 30.80
Downloads:
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02.12 - Voice Command
RapidShare Link
MegaUpload Link
SendSpace Link
02.22 - Voice Speed Dialer
RapidShare Link
MegaUpload Link
SendSpace Link
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I also build a more stripped version - 02.05:
Camera
Office
Windows Media Player
Disconnect Button GPRS fix
Error Reporting disabled
Disable security warning
Cleartype in landscape
Emable 802.11g
increase ring volume
show slideout keyboard capsdot
Download:
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RapidShare Link
MegaUpload Link
SendSpace Link
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Please give your favorite config a try and let me know.

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Still using 01.10.10, may give a shoot to 02.xx later.
I notice a strange thing. After you told me the registry setting to switch off WLAN preload, the problem that IE abnormal after 6-7 pages has gone! I tried to power cycle the device for several times and the problem does not show anymore.

starkwong said:
Still using 01.10.10, may give a shoot to 02.xx later.
I notice a strange thing. After you told me the registry setting to switch off WLAN preload, the problem that IE abnormal after 6-7 pages has gone! I tried to power cycle the device for several times and the problem does not show anymore.
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Nice find! I didn't include that fix here either because of battery life, but it sounds like it has even bigger / better benifits. Thanks!

i'm using 02.05 but battery life is not as good as your 02.21 usage, what's the differences?

bachikho said:
i'm using 02.05 but battery life is not as good as your 02.21 usage, what's the differences?
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A few things maybe - I keep the phone locked and powered off when not being used (keeps the screen from "coming awake" every minute or so), I don't run batterystatus, I keep beam and wifi off unless I need them, and don't have the screen brightness cranked up. Other than that, I used it as described.
Edit: also, I remove everything but WifiInit and CapNotify from the startup folder.

Using 2.5
I have been using it for two days with no problems whatsoever! Battery life is good. Device is quick and responsive. A++++ for a stable, bare bones ROM!

hey bro great ROM...just a quick question....is this based on the latest build of WM6 ?

ranasrule said:
hey bro great ROM...just a quick question....is this based on the latest build of WM6 ?
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From what I've seen, yes - 15.2.1413. It is mUn's release and doubleOfour extracted it into his base kitchen - and heavily tweaked from there.

mattk_r said:
Edit: also, I remove everything but WifiInit and CapNotify from the startup folder.
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can i delete init_tray.lnk and poutlook.lnk (what r their functions)?

bachikho said:
can i delete init_tray.lnk and poutlook.lnk (what r their functions)?
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init_tray is for the batter icon and comm manager icon in the quick launch bar at the bottom of your screen.
The poutlook should be for kicking off the service for your outlook program - I don't use it, but even with other programs like voice speed dial, I can remove the sddaemon from startup and the program still works fine.
I'd suggest just moving them to your SD card and trying it!

thought i'd point it out, you included both PIM backup 1.9 AND SMS backup.
PIM Backup 1.9 will actually also back up your text messages for you (inbox and everything, including your outlook folders)
would save space if you removed SMS backup. unless there is a demand for it of course!
downloading right now and will be flashing soon! +
oh, and if you could actually make COMPLETE releases. by that i mean, when you upload, can you include the Rom Update Utility with its DLL's as well please.
thanx

duke_stix said:
thought i'd point it out, you included both PIM backup 1.9 AND SMS backup.
PIM Backup 1.9 will actually also back up your text messages for you (inbox and everything, including your outlook folders)
would save space if you removed SMS backup. unless there is a demand for it of course!
downloading right now and will be flashing soon! +
oh, and if you could actually make COMPLETE releases. by that i mean, when you upload, can you include the Rom Update Utility with its DLL's as well please.
thanx
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so is there consensus that SMS Backup should be ax'd? I'll pull it from the release - which will alos include the update utility!

Well, my initial comments on the 2.22 build is that while using Live, omap, smartkey, and Weather to go, the batter is taking a good beating.
I think all this extra crap just eats up juice. I'm re-evaluating their importance relative to batter life...
Otherwise, I haven't had any issues to speak of.

Looks good...will give it a whirl after I cook dinner...lol
?...Why does everyone put Temp Internet Files on SD card...?
I like to keep them on the device....

dwny said:
Looks good...will give it a whirl after I cook dinner...lol
?...Why does everyone put Temp Internet Files on SD card...?
I like to keep them on the device....
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I don't install or set anything to write to the SD either. I figure the SD is best for things like installation files or MP3's. The programs waste enough battery power when running, why have programs accessing the SD also and draining it more?

I just cooked up an extended rom, which includes the following cabs:
CAB: \Extended_ROM\MP-Shorcut-MMS1-Java5xx-CyberonVoice-CV-051220.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\P_Conn_CWS_APR12_Wizard.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\P_JavaGUID_HotFix.sa.CAB
I may be posting that I have a fancy brick in a few...
I'm installing this with a mild vanilla rom I'm trying out, getting ready for release...

i think i MIGHT have found a big problem.....i simply cant get WIFI to turn on via the comm manager....could this have anything to do with the fact that i dont have any WIFI connection available in the vicinity ?? i mean WIFI should atleast turn on shouldn't it?? otherwise great rom

try change HTCPreloadWifi to 1 (u have to SR after that)!

Or try to click it once more and it will be up.

Windows Mobile 6 ROM for Tornado ( VA_alpha )

Windows Mobile 6 ROM for Tornado ( VA_alpha )
: ) , first at all, sorry for my poor english...and, thanks to phil.
This rom is made by Vito(里脊肉) and Annie
. based on Phil's Tornado Windows Mobile 6 ALPHA
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ADD:
added STK support
added HTC comm manager
added wm5storage v1.75 (we change the icon, i think you will like it )
added celetask v2.2.2466 (as a default taskmanager, "Long_Home" to active )
added default WM6 picture as new splash screen
FIX:
MMS fixed(thanx enjoyamd)
Camera fixed
CHANGE:
Change carrier_splash.png & carrier_shutdown.png
Change cprogback.png
REMOVE:
removed all debug apps
removed MarketPlace
removed WindowsUpdate
removed red letters at startup now
OTHER:
application unlocked
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DOWNLOAD:
you can download the .exe file from the follow link, you can setup it directly or you can use WINRAR to extract the file.
and please report the bugs and give us your advices here... thanks...
http://www.annievo.com/software/WM6_Tornado_VA_Alpha_01.exe
Burkay's rapidshare link: (thanks to Burkay)
http://rapidshare.com/files/46421886/WM6_Tornado_VA_Alpha_01.exe.html

If you remove the apps , it would be better to package them as cabs and supply them with your ROM as well

Sha...fa!!! Gone!!!

What is the free ROM and RAM space after flashing ?

cool, more and more roms are comming...
my tornado is alive and kicking after a few months in a drawer...
Thank's to those envolved in the rom cooking...

What languages contains this rom? And what about free space in storage after flashing?

hi, just flashed...
avail. storage: 16.33mb
total storage: 19.94mb
avail. memory: 23.59mb
total memory: 44.67mb
It also comes with t9 in english and german.
font size is the same as phil's first rom, not small like the chinese roms.
i'll post more difs as i find them...

i say.... just wait for phill's beta and then try to do more custom roms. it is not worth to do more alpha versions because they still have a s*** load of bugs

bogdi1988 said:
i say.... just wait for phill's beta and then try to do more custom roms. it is not worth to do more alpha versions because they still have a s*** load of bugs
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can you pleaz tell me the exact bug in this alpha rom.?
thanx....

no offence, but here is a list of bugs that i have found in the alpha version by phill. can you confirm that all of them have been fixed?
if u remove windows update, at least supply it as a cab in the extras folder.
channels don't work.
long pressed side button does not work! it used to start voice note record for the sda and i'd like that to work.
mms.
better camera software. btw htc camera makes the phone SLOW..... not a good one. need an alternate
enable profile switching to silent when long pressing '#' key
default folder for saving pictures on storage card is not my documents\my pictures any more but a lame dcim folder. that would be nice to be changed.
also, sometimes when answering a call, the keyboard stays locked, the call is still on, but the home screen is active and not the call screen.
joystick seems much better but sometimes it doesn't want to work as it should. maybe another driver; if not, this one is good
we need wpa2 for wifi enabled.
also add in the extras folder:
moblue
tcpmp with extra codecs
htc audio manager could be good
if u need the cabs for moblue and htc audio, i have them
there is an newer version of sim manager. v6.10. has a couple of new things (got it if u need it)
and maybe add a good version of opera. not the java one.
we also need a good midlet manager
also a good instant messaging program. maybe a multi client one like oz mobile im, or like im+

better the pure clean system without apps you listed here, there is no need to add to the ROM (don't judge me, just my opinion )

bogdi1988 said:
no offence, but here is a list of bugs that i have found in the alpha version by phill. can you confirm that all of them have been fixed?
if u remove windows update, at least supply it as a cab in the extras folder.
channels don't work.
long pressed side button does not work! it used to start voice note record for the sda and i'd like that to work.
mms.
better camera software. btw htc camera makes the phone SLOW..... not a good one. need an alternate
enable profile switching to silent when long pressing '#' key
default folder for saving pictures on storage card is not my documents\my pictures any more but a lame dcim folder. that would be nice to be changed.
also, sometimes when answering a call, the keyboard stays locked, the call is still on, but the home screen is active and not the call screen.
joystick seems much better but sometimes it doesn't want to work as it should. maybe another driver; if not, this one is good
we need wpa2 for wifi enabled.
also add in the extras folder:
moblue
tcpmp with extra codecs
htc audio manager could be good
if u need the cabs for moblue and htc audio, i have them
there is an newer version of sim manager. v6.10. has a couple of new things (got it if u need it)
and maybe add a good version of opera. not the java one.
we also need a good midlet manager
also a good instant messaging program. maybe a multi client one like oz mobile im, or like im+
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all I want to say is:
just try this rom
it will not disappoint you...

thx. i will try it when i get the chance

Could anybody put it on rapidshare? Please
Update: nevermind.

I would like to download it, but it's unreal with so slow download speed from your link

it seem this ROM is not an alpha but an official release
all is working very good !!!
thank you !!!

Upgraded a few minutes ago without a problem.
All looks good, but I will test it further once I copy the contents of my old SDCard to my new 2gb
Right now it is lagging due to the file transfer going on.

Rapidshare link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/46421886/WM6_Tornado_VA_Alpha_01.exe.html

we do not change the rom size.. so you can dump this rom then add more apps as you like...
heihei, if you like, we can also make it smaller...(ANNIE)

kajdax said:
I would like to download it, but it's unreal with so slow download speed from your link
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sorry about it, the server is in china...

*** Custom ROM for you ***

I decided to build some custom ROM based on your interest and taste.
I'll consider the flavor if I have a "number of requests" for the same and offcourse it should be manageable .
Cheers

thanx Tomal, it should be great,
i need a rom with empty installation,
example.
No softwares installed in it just WM6.1 with drivers

I need the Diamond DialPad like PDAVIET'sROM. Other, fast and a big FD
Thanks

tomal said:
I decided to build some custom ROM based on your interest and taste.
I'll consider the flavor if I have a "number of requests" for the same and offcourse it should be manageable .
Cheers
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Thanks a lot Tomal! as always doing the best for all of us!
My request would be a ROM including this:
HTC home without freezing and wheather update working
WM7 theme
Advance config
The best speed as possible!!!
Messenger latest version without windows live
Office mobile
Some finger friendly keyboard
Opera the newest
A nice comm manager
TCPM
The minimal quantity of programs to run well (No games, search, help,
And I think this is not possible but you are the magician: A way to have 850mhz band to connect to 3G (As in Mexico is the band used for 3G)
Thanks a lot!
Cheers

Wow Tomal, that's very considerate of you. I'm sure you're now going to get as many flavours as there are replies!!
I love your v8.0 ROM. I think the only thing I add to your ROM is PocketCM (which I believe can't be added because of updating etc) and GPRS programs (Route66 etc).
However if I go into settings/system/about, I notice the memory differs (the ROM memory, not the free stuff). Why is that? Is is possible to make a ROM with more Memory?

tuecan said:
I need the Diamond DialPad like PDAVIET'sROM. Other, fast and a big FD
Thanks
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with the last rom....

Cool!
After loading your roms I usually add:
TouchFlo_v1.4.1 + FTouchFloConfig_v0.9 -> without any graphics, i use this to enable finger scroling in all windows apps, like file explorer, comboboxs, lists etc
BatteryStatusExt.1.05 -> i only select the second row (Indicators) to see in the home screen and in windows bar the cpu usage, to know if the universal is working or not , i would like an app that only puts in the windows bar the cpu usage and the ram available (Wasn't that good to have one of our light indicators flashing when our cpu reaches 100%? almost like our PCs with the disk light? This is possible, one program that set the SD card like a usb disk used the lights to show activity...)
PJC_HTCHome -> it's working 100% (including weather) just missing the media player...
SRS_WOWHD_ARM -> tweak universal sound rock/classic etc
I'm happy with the new Windows Media Player in 8.0
I'm not happy with the contact manager, Not finger friendly...
I'm not happy with image viewer... zoom and other iphone capabilities
Happy with TCPMP, Total Comander, WKTask Manager, RegistryEditor, Pocket RAR, Messenger, Adobe Reader, Comm Manager, Advanced Config, Performance, SD Settings, USB to PC, Office, Battery indicator in the top of the screen
WTF do we need Time Sync... doesn't ActiveSync does that??
I often install QuickMenu_en_2.7 but this should be a simpler program
JAVA!!!!
OPERA!!!!
Tweaker for the velocity vs memory problem -> app that sets the pda to work how we need when we need with a simple reboot - is this possible?? (Tweak those memory eating things that makes wm faster, way to choose if we now(via reboot) want more velocity or more ram...)
Video Call (One idea, since we can't have VC in wm6 why not use a rom from wm5 and add the latest things? I know some things come with windows, but we could have a wm5 rom up to date)
One thing I would ask too is a counter of the kbs that we use in gprs/umts, we have a time counter but we are not paying by time but by kbs... (and better better was a way to filter msn traffic since here in Portugal we have free messenger 8) )
I'm happy with the black theme, but yes it would be good to be able to change
All and all I would like a Rom with the least things in RAM but with all the minimum features installed or in cabs (installed if there are tweaks fot them)
The most important thing for me is to use the pda with fingers and without precision so i can use it while walking, riding the train etc
If i remember other thing i'll tell

French Rom plz
Hello Tomal,
First, thanx for your great ROMs
I think we are a lot wait ing for someone cooking a French WM6.1 ROM.
I hope it will be a reality one day ...

And Portuguese... Portugal Portuguese.. Never existed for universal :'(

mohsinrizwan said:
thanx Tomal, it should be great,
i need a rom with empty installation,
example.
No softwares installed in it just WM6.1 with drivers
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I agree.. sorta.
a more vanilla ish rom with nothing except things like tie sync sd settings advanced config arcsoft mms..
that way people can add the things that they want after.. the things I listed are usually needed to set up the device. actully just mms and sd settings are really needed since cabs for everything else exist.. and arcsoft doesn't really like to be installed after the fact.

mohsinrizwan said:
thanx Tomal, it should be great,
i need a rom with empty installation,
example.
No softwares installed in it just WM6.1 with drivers
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Me too, fresh vanilla rom will be great with the latest core

I also go for the fresh vanilla ROM witht he latest core.

I need mms function,thanks

I like the idea and your rom releases, maybe you could improve 7.7 and make 7.8 Its a very good rom already, maybe just need some more enhancements posted at the 7.7 thread.

I want vanilla ROM with the latest Core.

tomal v8 with mms!!!! please

pkfloyd said:
tomal v8 with mms!!!! please
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pkfloyd u can use Tomal V8 with MMS just install Arcsoft MMS 4.2
download arcsoft 4.2 from here
first install 1_install_cert.cab and then 2_dattad_ArcsoftMMS_v4.2.8.1.cab
Download Link:
http://ukstreet.co.uk/arcsoft/1_install_cert.cab
http://ukstreet.co.uk/arcsoft/2_dattad_ArcsoftMMS_v4.2.8.1.rar

I think it should continue its work with the vc in wm6.x for uni. You do would realize the dream of many.
Thank you.

Clean of any osftware rom :with flashdik , max mem, stable.
Only add SMS,BT,SDHC, cam softwares
And multilanguage if possible

I would be happy with 7.7 minus MyMobiler, WkTask Manager, Bubble Breaker, PIE, WMP and other similarly useless bits and pieces that take space. So yep, 7.7 or 7.8 in vanilla would do me fine. Got everything else in .CABs anyway - Opera, Conduits Player, TouchFlo, All Black .tsk, Diamond apps and now testing SKYPE that works for 8.0 on 7.7.
And, of course, Video Call is on my Christmas wishlist....
Thank You so much, Tomal, love your ROMs. (We need kiss emoticon!)

A Few Noob Questions

Hello,
I am a new AT&T Fuze owner and new in general to Windows Mobile "Professional". (Had a Symbian 60 Device Previously) I have been doing extensive reading and researching to figure out how to accomplish my goals but I keep running into dead ends. I have been searching forums and Google but I find that most information is formatted for people that have been in the community for a long time and understand all of the jargon. There seems to be so many flavors of windows and platforms that it makes my head spin and I also find that words like Smartphone, Pocket PC, Window CE, etc.. are thrown around very loosely.
Sorry for the preamble. Here is what I know so far.
Device = AT&T Fuze
CE OS 5.2.19971 (Build 19971.1.2.6)
CID = HTC_P4600 (Not listed in the WIKI here)
ROM = 1.95.502..5 WWE (10/20/08)
Radio = 1.02.25.32
Protocol = 52.39c.25.22h
First I was wondering if there was a positive way of knowing if a certain piece of software will work with my device and what that spec would be. Like does it go by windows version, phone version, both? Or at least some general rules of thumb what to take note of before trying a piece of software. (If it was designed for or works on other flavors of Raphael is it safe to try?)
My biggest problem at the moment is I can't seem to install anything anymore. I am getting a message about unsigned cabs or files missing. I'm hoping this wasn't something I did but it's a possibility. Some software "PPCPimBackup.exe" will still install but most won't like "Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab". I even tried to make a simple .cab using CeRegEditor to adjust the city string for the weather tab in TF3D. Any help here would be most appreciated. I am very weary of all these so called "unlockers" out there and even read a thread here where someone bricked their device by installing the wrong software for the device.
Is the Fuze the same as the Diamond? (They look identical)
What is the preferred way to back up the entire device or is it even possible with standard software? Most of what I found backs up PIM info.
When a program (Taskmanager 3.1) says to minimize, where does it go? How do you bring it back to the foreground or do you have to install a taskbar manager?
I actually have more I want to ask but that probably wouldn't be prudent. I think if I could help myself better once I understand what software I can and can't use with my phone.
Many thanks in advance and apologize for noobing up your forum =P
Eidolen

I'll try to answer some of your questions.
1) Normally, software will say windows mobile 5 or 6 as a requirement along with maybe .Net Framework. If it's for Windows Mobile most likely it'll work. Just have to try it and see.
2) Your programs are probably not installing because you may not have the required .Net Framework. I know Advance Config requires .Net Framework 3.5. So if you don't have it, install it. You can find it here or from Microsoft's website. You need the Windows CE or Compact version.
3) The Fuze is similar to the Diamond but don't go trying to install ROMs that are made for the Diamond. Use the ones in the Raphael forums.
4) If you want to backup your entire device, use a program such as Sprite Backup. This will make a full backup of entire system excluding ROM. However, if you want to do a restore, you need to make sure you have the same ROM installed, if not, it will create a lot of problems.
5) With TaskManager, when you minimize it just continues to run in the background. Program is still loaded and taking up memory/etc. Similar to when you minimize something in Windows. To bring it back, you can view the TaskManager and restore to foreground.
Hope that helps somewhat.

Wow,
Thanks you for the quick and non condescending reply. I've been surfing more since I posted and hopefully I could get you to elaborate on a few things.
2) Your programs are probably not installing because you may not have the required .Net Framework. I know Advance Config requires .Net Framework 3.5. So if you don't have it, install it. You can find it here or from Microsoft's website. You need the Windows CE or Compact version.
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I did the .Net install and it went without a hitch but still no joy. I noticed on the authors support forums that others are having the same problem but no clear solution has been posted. /Sigh
I was thinking I needed to follow a procedure similar to the one listed here where you have to install a certificate and make some policy changes in the registry but since I can't find any info specifically for the Fuze I haven't done anything yet other than download the certificate that was linked in that post.
I should mention I am not a complete computer illiterate, and am fully comfortable with the registry and even more advanced techniques if necessary. I should also mention that I don't plan on replacing my rom at all. Just want to keep it to basic reg hacks, software installs, and some theming once I get things working the way I want.
I did already change one registry policy key (0000101a) to "1" from a thread I found on these forums, as it is something easily changed back but of course it did not help.
4) If you want to backup your entire device, use a program such as Sprite Backup. This will make a full backup of entire system excluding ROM. However, if you want to do a restore, you need to make sure you have the same ROM installed, if not, it will create a lot of problems.
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Thanks, I will check this out. Sounds like exactly what I was looking for.
5) With TaskManager, when you minimize it just continues to run in the background. Program is still loaded and taking up memory/etc. Similar to when you minimize something in Windows. To bring it back, you can view the TaskManager and restore to foreground.
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I understand what you said but what I was trying to figure out is how to recall it from the background. It doesn't show up in the TF3D task list when it's minimized so I was wondering if you had to click on the task bar or do some certain trick to bring it to the fore-front. The ability to move between programs easily is my biggest gripe so far as I seem to have to open and close the keyboard, hit home or back a lot to move around. I would love the ability to hit some hot key or some secret spot on the screen to launch taskmanager and then I could use it to go to whatever program I wanted.
I have seen a few bugs in TM_3.1 that cause crashes, but it is an awesome program and hopefully the developer will keep working out the bugs. If there is another program you would recommend that accomplished the same type of functionality I'd be interested in trying it out.
Thanks again for your friendly help.
Eidolen
Just looked at the contents of that cab referenced from that link I posted. It is just a Setup.xml file with the following contents.
<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="SecurityPolicy">
<parm name="4119" value="144"/>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>
Any thoughts?

As for .Net, the following is from Modaco, and I found that it worked like a charm:
How to install and use .NET Compact Framework 3.5
If you're a developer or have knowledge of .net Compact Framework, you'll be aware that version 3.5 has shipped. You'll be aware that it offers a number of enhancements in features, stability and performance, and you'll likely also know that it provides full backwards compatability with previous versions of the Compact Framework. What you may NOT know is that when CF 3.5 is installed on a device, applications that target previous versions of the Compact Framework will continue to run against the old versions, and 3.5 and previous versions will live side by side on the device. Only when new devices come along will we see ONLY 3.5 on a device.
This presents a number of problems, namely
• Users who deploy CF 3.5 to their device but use applications targeting older versions will not benefit from the 3.5 performance improvements
• Developers who develop apps for pre CF 3.5 frameworks cannot easily test their applications ready for when 3.5 only devices come along
Thankfully, help is at hand in the form of a little known Compact Framework 3.5 powertoy named '.Net Configuration'. The application, which is available at Microsoft, provides the user with full granularity of control over the .net CF on their device. You can see installed versions, change the used CF version for a particular application or change the used CF version for all applications run on your device! Perfect!
Sadly in Microsoft's infinite wisdom the application in question is tucked away in simple EXE inside the 6.2MB download and somewhat hard to find, so i've taken the liberty of packaging it up into a CAB here that installs it with it's own Start Menu shortcut.
- Run '.Net Configuration' from your Start Menu
- Navigate to the 'Device Policy' tab and select version 3.5
- Select 'Apply' then 'OK'
That's it, you're done!

Thanks kindly but I'm guessing now that myself or a piece of software I've installed has borked my ability to install software. It seems I can install exe files but no cabs, including the one you posted will install.
As I've stated I have not made any attempts to unlock anything yet but have installed some software and made some registry tweaks. I wish I could see what exactly is happening like Procmon does for windows to pinpoint the problem, but I might just have to resort to a hard reset if I can't figure it out.
I'm open to any ideas but if I don't figure it out tonight I guess I'll reset tomorrow. Thanks for the guidance and help.
Cheers,
Eidolen

@eidolen
You have a SD card?
Gimme some time and I write you a little 101 how to deal with the Fuze.

eidolen said:
Thanks kindly but I'm guessing now that myself or a piece of software I've installed has borked my ability to install software. It seems I can install exe files but no cabs, including the one you posted will install.
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eidolen said:
I did already change one registry policy key (0000101a) to "1" from a thread I found on these forums, as it is something easily changed back but of course it did not help.
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You might want to double-check that registry hack to make sure it's correct. Seems like a big coincidence that the one registry hack you've made so far is to allow unsigned cabs to install and the biggest problem you seem to be having is that you can't get unsigned cabs to install....

eidolen
You have a SD card?
Gimme some time and I write you a little 101 how to deal with the Fuze.
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I ordered my SD card yesterday =/ Hopefully be here soon. Still very interested in the 101 though!
You might want to double-check that registry hack to make sure it's correct. Seems like a big coincidence that the one registry hack you've made so far is to allow unsigned cabs to install and the biggest problem you seem to be having is that you can't get unsigned cabs to install....
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Yeah I gave that a shot but no joy. That wasn't the only reg hack I did but the only relating to "Unlocking". I haven't touched anything I wasn't pretty sure about. For instance I have looked at all the tweaks for speeding up the TF3D using cache setting but the numbers don't match so I never tried it. If I didn't understand what the tweak was I stayed away.
I did the PTT button tweak for voice/camera and played around with the cities for the weather app. Other than that I can't think of anything else I touched in the registry but I did a lot of looking.
On the other hand I have installed a good bit of software to try out. I have also rearranged my menu items by deleting shortcuts in the start menu folder. Even though I've done a good bit to the phone I think it might be best to start from scratch with a hard reset and start again with the knowledge I've gained in the past few days. My Opera browser has been getting a real workout with 40+ tabs going =P
I did find another thread here that has someone with a similar problem but the way it happened was entirely different. His fix was to wipe the phone and use the same software I was trying to install when I found this problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3038792#post3038792
I took ecltech's advice and got Sprite Backup and made a backup already. I would rather fix the problem but it sounds like it might be difficult tracking it down so I'm prepared to start again. What would be great is finding some guide or general direction in what programs and or tweaks I should install and in what order and any other pertinent information regarding starting from scratch. "The Must Have" utilities and programs.
I can't believe how helpful everyone's been so far considering this is a developers board. I figured it was worth the risk to get chewed in the hopes of getting the best advice. With all the info surfing I've been doing it's clear that this is the site where it all happens.
Cheers and thanks again,
Eidolen

OMG!
I'm almost too afraid to admit it but at least I feel good that I figured it out on my own. I was smart enough to make a backup of the registry with CeRedEditor before doing anything major and remembered it had a compare feature. After loading it up It immediately occurred to me to look at HKCR\cabfile and that's where I found my answer.
I had downloaded a little free utility from SKTools called Cabinstaller that allows you to choose where programs get installed. Somehow the registry entry it made didn't correctly point to the executable. In any case I think I installed it late the other night and forgot about it because the exe files I installed after that installed fine. I should have tested it immediately and I wouldn't have had this problem. /sigh
Thank you everyone for the help and ideas and even though I've fixed this problem I still might do a full reset and start from scratch now that I got all mentally prepared to do it and start over feeling a little more confident in what I'm doing.
While it's on my mind right now and since I never got a solution for the question in my first post, is there a hack or small little program that will allow you to put a shortcut in either the top bar where the start menu is or in the bottom where the shortcut for the on screen keyboard is so I can invoke the Task Manager easily to help with navigating? I wouldn't even be opposed to a shortcut in the TF3D pop-up you get when clicking on the top right bar. It would be great if this could be done with a bloated program but not opposed to it if the program is useful.
Thanks again everyone. I guess I'll start a new post for any new questions. (I have lots but will try and figure out as much as I can by myself first.)
Cheers,
Eidolen

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I took ecltech's advice and got Sprite Backup and made a backup already. I would rather fix the problem but it sounds like it might be difficult tracking it down so I'm prepared to start again. What would be great is finding some guide or general direction in what programs and or tweaks I should install and in what order and any other pertinent information regarding starting from scratch. "The Must Have" utilities and programs.
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I think you're probably right about starting again from scratch. It would probably be less work than tracking down what's causing your problem and then you'll be starting with a cleaner slate for installing everything going forward.
There are a few different threads on here about what constitutes "must have" apps for the Fuze and the one thing I can say is that no two people agree on the list! Your best bet is to seach out those threads and see which ones you think would be most useful to you. A great place to get started is at http://www.blownfuze.org using username and password 'xda' (without the quotes)
My suggestions for the generic must haves are:
Total Commander
PHM Registry Editor (or whichever reg editor you prefer)
Diamond Tweak
Diamond TF3D Config
Other basic programs that might be worth checking out depending on what you do on your fuze are:
PocketShield or S2U2 for locking the phone
TCPMP Core Media Player
TorchButton for using the LED flash as a flashlight
BeyondPod or pRSS Reader for RSS feeds and podcasts
GoogleMaps and/or Live Search
Good luck!

Sprite backup is included in your Fuze as original software. I always keep a full backup copy on my Sd card of a good clean WM 6.1 install with all the must have tweaks done already. You will find it saves alot of headaches when you mess something up trying things out. After that I do a weekly backup as I add more and more stuff over time.

does diamond TF3D Config or diamond tweak work with this ROM version?

Thanks yzf750, I am preparing to do just that. I am getting prepared for a hard reset now once I notate what I want to keep that's on my phone already. Hopefully I can get it set up by the time my SD card arrives this coming week and can do the backup to it for keeps.
I read a blog post about doing a soft reset after a hard reset to prevent the ATT software from installing and I think I really want to try that. I just need to make sure I install the stuff I want to keep like TF3D manually afterwards. I'm hoping to find a more detailed guide for the procedure than what was posted though.
I'll post back and report if the smoke genie escapes or not.
Eidolen

some n00b guidance
Ok so i have been looking at these forums for a few days now doing homework before i even get the phone(its ordered). So my questions are
1. if i have AT&T unlock the phone(i know someone who works there so i hope they can help out) do i still need to do the hardspl to change radios etc?
2. Whats really the difference between all these roms built by users and just using BuildOS(im assuming this works on GSM phones and not just CDMA because its from PPC) to build your own ROM? and do most of these tweeks come prebuilt into these roms or do u still need to to other stuff? i.e reg tweaks etc, like i think it would be better for me to just build a rom with BuildOS with the apps i want etc and not keep flashing all the time
3. Is GPS still a problem for people?, i think ill just use tomtom or garmin and hope for the best as its not a huge concern. After looking around i guess its just a matter of finding the radio that works best for the individual, so anyone in the .US new england area have any recommendations of the best radio in the northeast like NYC area?
4. whats a good order to do this stuff?, i plan on using the phone for a couple days or so as stock just to get the general feel of the OS in general. then prolly flash the ROM with a custom BuildOS ROM(unless someone can provide the difference between BuildOS and say PROven ROM), then do w.e else needs to be done. ive seen the recommeded tweaks, just not sure if they still need to be done with a flashed ROM. not really looking for a game phone more office apps like RDP and irc etc, sys admin tools
Basically i think theres just a ton of info on here which is a good thing but im just getting started on Winmo although flashing etc dosent intimidate me so im eager to get started just a little unclear on some things and cant seem to find the answer just surfing, so any help or links to some stuff i might have missed is appreciated. Pretty much just want a smooth runnin ROM thats not stock of course, decent gps reception and the apps i want. thanks all

Look here, I made a little write-up for the basics using a stock ATT ROM. I ran this routine actually twice on my phone (ROM flashing junkie) so it should be fairly complete.
I have to note that, in most cases at least, I know what I do and can "recover" from a ROM flash within ~ 30 minutes, having all software, tweaks and contacts restored.
Regarding ROMs
That's an open can of worms with two next to it waiting. Read the threads and read the problems and decide later if you want to flash or not. If you are not used to WinMo phones it's perhaps better to hold back a week or two.
Some ROMs are built from original Raphael builts others are based on WinMo 6.1 but contain partially applications and tweaks from other HTC devices. The latest build # need not to be the best. For example RRE's ROM is based on the original ATT ROM and he created a really nice good performing ROM while other Chefs rip out first all guts and basics of a ROM (making it "naked") adding features and programs later. That's a more or less political discussion what's better and what's not and you have to decide yourself based on what you read and/or experience. For MY part I know Monx/HT from the Tilt times and always appreciated his work and speedy ROMs and he continued the same line on the Raphael/Fuze though it took him some time to come where he is right now.
As said all political in that regards, almost all ROMs out there ARE GOOD and have advantages in the one or the other area.
Tweaks
Yes the tweaks work even for a stock ATT ROM with ATT's TouchFlo/Manila (though I think it's plain ugly).
GPS
Again a difficult subject. For example the stock GPS (enabled or disabled assisted GPS settings) works kinda well with google maps BUT doesn't perform as expected with 3rd party GPS apps (TomTom, iGO). Keep in mind a lot came from other devices and for example iGO on the Tilt rocked down to the street number with no lag at all where the Fuze is doing more "guesstimating" than performing (compared to the Tilt).
Backup
Do a PIM backup once or twice a week and do a FULL backup once a week or if you installed new software after you confirm that you like it. If you wreck your phone for whatever reason AND you stay with the SAME ROM a full restore will work.

Just Wow!
That's an impressive piece of work there. I haven't stopped reading or poking around while I'm waiting for my SD card to get here and had quite some experience today. I did read the thread regarding doing a "Non-Bloat" Install and actually started to do it but stopped when I realized there still seems to be some residual bugs to the process. I figured for now even with the little bit of confidence I've gained I'd wait on that a little longer.
I did jot some info down while it was still "Bloat-Free" for anyone interested:
Bloatfree Services:
App Service APP1:
USSD APP8:
Push to Talk PTT0:
EnlargeStartMenuEMX0:
HTC IMS service IMS0:
STK Service AP15:
LargeTitleBar AP21:
HtcServices HSV2:
Keypad KBD1:
Bluetooth Audio Gateway BAG0:
Software Disable Dialog Service SDD0:
Sync Bluetooth Server ASV0:
Software Management Service SWM0:
Certificate Enroll Engine CES0:
SNApi SNA0:
DPT DPY0:
LAS LAS0:
Credential Manager CRD0:
Notify NFY0:
OBEX OBX0:
Bluetooth HID Loader BHL0:
SqmUpload SQM0:
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Bloatfree Processes:
NK.exe
RegistryCSPTool.exe
OperaPreL.exe
poutlook.exe
sapsettings.exe
opera9.exe
htcimssvc.exe
tmail.exe
cecmd.exe <--Total Commander
conmgr.exe
TaskMgr.exe <--duh
rapiclnt.exe
repllog.exe <--activesync
biotouch.exe
shell32.exe
QuickGPS.exe
VoiceCMD.exe
SIPGT_app.exe
services.exe
filesys.exe
gwes.exe
manilla.exe
device.exe
cprog.exe
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I forgot to check the memory and storage readings sadly but I figured this list could be checked against the full bloat version to see what processes and services could be killed. I figured I'd play with a full working install so if anything didn't work I would know it was from myself or software I installed instead of guessing if it was a side effect of the no bloat process. Also I could learn what the bloat was and strip it away.
Once I decided on Bloat I started a Log/Diary of everything I did for my own reference and thought it might be useful for troubleshooting later. Everything was going smooth until I decided to take on the behemoth named RealVGA.
Luckily I made a full Sprite backup previous to playing with it and am reinstalling that backup as I write this.
If there is one piece of advice I could give from the little knowledge I've gained so far is that most of the upper-end hacks/tweaks software that is available are living breathing complex entities and are not to be taken lightly. Each one needs to be thoroughly researched and understood before using unless you have an older device that has been supported for a long time. I find very little information on using most software regarding the Fuze even though it is very similar to other devices. Truth is, it is not identical which can make things hairy at times. Anyway the more you fail, the more you learn.
For other Fuze owners out there I'll post my personal log so you have an idea what programs I had trouble with and what I tried to do to resolve them. For sure I had huge problems with RealVGA as well as PocketCM and PocketCm Keyboard. It's a shame too as they all are outstanding upgrades.
Well I think I'll be ready for your tutorial when my card gets here so I will be sure to report back to let you know how it went. I already learned a lot just from reading it. For one I didn't know you could do anything over usb if you cancelled the ActiveSync. I just used that trick while restoring my phone and still haven't done a sync. I'm sure that guide will be a huge help to many like myself.
Huge Thanks!
Eidolen
PHP:

Diary of a Blown Fuze (Blown Attempt that is)
Just a stream of consisnous, sorry if some doesn't make sense
Log got more vebose as I went.
"Fresh Bloated Install"
Boot
Set Weather City
Configure WiFi
Calibrate G-Sensor
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Memory:
Storage======Program
Total 294.53 || Total 200.99
In Use 74.05 || In Use 70.93
Free 220.48 || Free 130.06
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Turn off Auto Backlight - Adjusted Settings
Removed Programs - I Play Jewel
Configured all settings under "All Settings" tab
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Having keyboard problems where it is unresponsive. Had to use on-screen KB
to write user information. Also had KB lag a few times afterwards but not
as severe.
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SYNC (Merged 89 file items)
Install NETCFSetupv35.msi
Install netcfcfg.cab
Install tcmdpocketarm.cab
Configured .Net to use 3.5
Installed Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab
Create Sprite Backup "Fresh Install" ACT3.3 not config yet
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Phone supplied Sprite backup software reported "backing up 85mb" but when finished
the file is only 144kb! Not sure what happened. Will try to initiate
a backup from the desktop software.
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Initiated Full Desktop Version backup "Fresh Install 2 FULL" 93.03M
Ended with file size of 60.3M
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Configure Advanced Config Tool:
User Interface ->
Horizontal Icon Spacing: 150
Vertical Icon Spacing: 140
Icon title font size: 8
Popup Menu Font Size: 800
Power Management ->
All either default or "Advised" setting if applicable
Screen ->
Show Orientation: Yes (default)
Keyboard Backlight Timeout: 15sec
Suggested Words: 3
Network ->
Device friendly Name: #####
Phone ->
Show All Call History: Yes
Call History Clean: Never
Show Battery Icon: Yes
Show Band: Yes
Bluetooth ->
BT Device Name: #####
GPS ->
Logfile Size: 32K
Internet Explorer ->
4 Way Navigation: Disabled
Clear Type: Enabled
Search Page: Google
Max Connections Per Server: 8
Messaging ->
SMS Delivery Notification: Yes
Use Unicode Support: Yes
Symc Sent Items: Yes
Show Roaming: Yes
Calendar ->
Show Lunar: Yes
Show Events in Week View: Yes
Camera ->
Capture Key Delay: Enabled
Key Delay: Enabled
HTC Animation ->
Volume: 90
HTC Camera Album ->
OK Button: Close
Misc:
Auto Daylight Savings Switch: Yes
Show Daylight Savings Notification: Yes
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Noticed lots of options missing from last time I used this program before the hard reset like more font sizes among other things>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Sprite Resore "PIM_2008-12-13.exe" PIM info Only
Contacts Restored but no TF3D settings were retained
(No contacts in TF3D, Messages, etc..)
Set up both email accounts
Set Up online AB LDAP
Adjusted Camera Settings
Copied My Pictures,Notes, Ringtones, PTT shortcuts and other "Files" back to device using Sprite Explorer File=2008-12-14.exe
Extracted "Browser Favorites" From Sprite Explorer /System Settings 2008-12-14.exe
Hand Edit Opera.ini
Transferred Some opera files (wand.dat, cookies, images) using Sprite Explorer 2008-12-14.exe
Transferred a pantload of s/w to be installed
Installed Diamond_TF3D_Config_Setup_v0.6.7.cab
(Made speed adjustments and removed Worldcard and "Unknown" TAB. Also "Unlocked" Noticed program launcher shows a ton of empty entries.)
Install ResPack128dpi.ARM.CAB
Install ResPack96dpi.ARM.CAB
(Sprite backup crashed on reboot from ResPack96dpi.ARM.CAB)
InstallRealVGA_11.CAB
Install missing ipxxx.dll's and screen went black then rebooted
**** my Pants *chant* no-brick no-brick no-brick
Watched it reboot. Something crashed but then TF3D loaded with tiny fonts!! (128dpi)
Modified Menu Icon spacing for 4 in a row. (Want to tweak further if I keep RealVGA)
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HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\
Add New Key "IconConfig"
In there Add DWORD Value:
"HorizontalIconSpacing" Dec value="112"
"VerticalIconSpacing" Dec value="115"
"IconTitleFontSize" Dec value="6"
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Notice a small black band on TF3D screens at the bottom. Acts as part of the tabs
Total commander toggle icon bar does not fully open up.
Contact all people link does not work
Contacts from Start Menu does not Work
Phone does not work
Installed respack96outlookfix.cab and Changed to 96 DPI now contacts and phone works!!
Adding Contacts in TF3D very buggy, auto puts in a picture somehow and have to go back and change it.
NVM...It selects the pics I had assigned before the reset somehow. Cool!
On Screen Keyboards Very Borked (Only Partially Visiable) Trying PocketCM Keyboard for VGA *Crosses Fingers*
It works but no colors, just plain Gray *humph!*
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Config Fonts in Advanced config tool
UI ->
H Scroll Width: 25
V Scroll Width: 25
H Arrow Size: 32
V Arrow Size: 32
Icon Title Font Size: 16 (Was 6)
Menu Bar Font: Large
Popup Menu Font Size: Large
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Reset
Home TF3D Screen buggy, Tabs at bottom are doubled up. Clears when used to scroll but large black bar at bottom now
Wow! TF3D Communtications screen is really toast! It shows in upper left screen and at least it works but it's almost unreadable.
Not noticing any change in fonts so far
"All Settings" Won't Launch. Ouch!
Umm, System Locked up hard
Tried sliding keyboard and heard sound and title bars appreared but no luck, home and back not work either
It let me reboot with switch at least, not reset button
Tried Unticking "Disable Skin" in RealVGA
Reboot
"All Settings" Still Borked
reboot
Start Menu -> settings locks up too *cry*
Reboot!
Maybe result of font settings in ACT?
Might be time to do a restore =(
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Config Fonts in Advanced config tool
UI ->
H Scroll Width: 19
V Scroll Width: 19
H Arrow Size: 20 (default)
V Arrow Size: 20 (default)
Icon Title Font Size: 10 (Was 16)
Menu Bar Font: Large
Popup Menu Font Size: Large
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Reboot
RealVGA is nice but not sure it's worth this effort. Just too many problems.
Noticed graphics in TF3D are much slower and laggy now as well.
"All Settings" still borked Not sure what else to try at this point.
Good info on this subject is hard to come by. Most ppl seem to have good luck with this app.
Went to re-tick the skin option in RealVGA but it was still ticked. hmmm
What I think is needed is an app that could swap resolutions on the fly with a hotkey. ( Prolly not technically possible)
At least you could have normal usage and only use for certain apps that really benefit from it.
After another reboot the "Disable phone skin" is checked again. Guess it can't be unticked.
Un-ticked "No enlarge title Bar" in Diamond TF3D Config
I am able to open the "Programs" link from the start menu, wonder why settings is screwed.
Tried settings again, no joy, was able to use home key though this time. Not locked up.
Start menu does not work now though. Yikes, had to use reset this time.
Throws arms in the air!
Hard Reset =(

You are funny eidolen.
If you want copy the files I provided to your device (since you don't have a DS yet) and play with it.
You'll hard reset anyway when the SD arrives - LOL

Your also going to find at some point that the more and more tweaks and modifications you make,more problems will start sufacing. I was a rom flashing junkie like many on this forum for 2 years. Since I replaced my prior phone with the Fuze I am running just the stock rom without bloatware and a FEW select tweaks (includes radio change). It runs fast, works good and I dont have to soft reset it all the time.
Take a look at every custom rom, Im not putting any of them down, but after time the threads on them become 100 plus pages long, the number of other fixes to get them running right become impossible to keep track of. It becomes a daily job of just trying to keep that rom working without breaking some other feature or getting it to work right. They put out weekly fixes on most custom roms. They start out with the right intention, but it soon becomes just a bloated non oem rom after time.
Its addicting and fun, but at some point a person just wants to use the phone instead of hard resetting it all the time, flashing roms nightly and trying to figure out how to fix stuff in each rom.
I reached that point now and my fuze is outstanding without having to spend days tinkering with it. It is snappy, reponsive and ALL the software I have installed on it works, and the GPS works flawlessly even inside my house.
But again, your "hands on" approch as your doing now, is probaly the best way to learn

teh bestest
between these last few posts and my little chat with our neighbors PPC on there irc channel i am pretty confident i know what the deal is now, you guys have been a great help, i think im going to play a bit with some roms of course but eventually land on a bloat free standard rom with some added apps like putty and irc etc for sysadmin work, on that note yzf750 could u tell me exactally what u have running on yours sounds like its what im looking for.

Free RAM issue!

hi there...am a big fan of the vox....but the problem that i face after say 2-3 days of continuous use is the memory leak. it has abt 22 mb free when i soft reset, but after this time, has less than 10 mb remaining. i shut down programs regularly, use the hibernate function on smart toolkit, and i use sk tools lite to use the memory free function. could anyone solve this problem? i read somewhere that a rom upgrade may solve this issue. tried the htc website, it says the rom upgrade is not suitable for my device. can someone help? someone like dr. martin gonzo or frauhottellmann? r u there? my device details are below
CE OS 5.2.1236
Radio 4.1.13.41_02.88.90
ril version 2.002
Pls tell me which ROM is the most stable, if i need to update any thing else too that is available on this forum/ I have photo contacts pro v 5.05 andfacade 1.4.10 running in the background.
Oh i forgot. I use smart toolkit too
The ROM is 5.2.1236.17741
I would prefer a light ROM, as I dont use word mobile. I have documents to go instead.

scanman1 said:
hi there...am a big........
I would prefer a light ROM, as I dont use word mobile. I have documents to go instead.
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Try fireburned's Clean ROM or fraun's Lite ROM, both of them are super fast and super stable .

Backup - some doubts
thanx.....downloaded it, will it work and install with my vox as per the details ive mentioned above?
my second query....im not too particular abt my messages and stuff, and ive just synchronised the data on my mobile to outlook ( contacts, tasks and appointments )....is this enough or must i properly back up everything else? pls lemme know. as ive never flashed a rom before.
also, will flashing a new rom delete the stuff on my storage card?

scanman1 said:
thanx.....downloaded it, will it work and install with my vox as per the details ive mentioned above?
my second query....im not too particular abt my messages and stuff, and ive just synchronised the data on my mobile to outlook ( contacts, tasks and appointments )....is this enough or must i properly back up everything else? pls lemme know. as ive never flashed a rom before.
also, will flashing a new rom delete the stuff on my storage card?
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Search for PIM backup, that is a software which back up all your PIM information to Storage card, or whatever folder you wish. No flashing will not delete anything from the storage card. But be sure that you are not using Encryption on the SD Card.

thats ok...i have sprite backup with my phone. will have to reinstall it though/
my question is....is a fullback up necessary or will an outlook sync be enough? when i reconnect after the flash, active sync will set up a partnership again right? will that delete all the outlook data stored on my comp or will my comp refill the pim data back on to my device? thats what i want to know.
also, will the new rom significantly alter my battery life? am a doctor, and it may not be possible for me to keep charging my mobile when i am on rounds and so on

one more doubt, addicted2xda. will flashing one of these custom roms solve the memory leak issue? its driving me crazy. cant go 3 days without doing a hard reset. and how much will teh free memory be with say, fireburned lite rom?

Well after a couple of days you will of course have less RAM available. You always have to close apps in the task manager and use some RAM-free-up app! I use the function of sktools lite!

frauhottelmann said:
Well after a couple of days you will of course have less RAM available. You always have to close apps in the task manager and use some RAM-free-up app! I use the function of sktools lite!
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yes boss...i use sk tools lite too. but it doesnt make too significant a difference, with the end result that after say 3-4 days, memory dips to less than 8 MB, and voila! my phone hangs!
am now trying out fireburned's lite rom, seems good for now. lets see! any further ideas to minimise the ram leak?

Use the taskmanager - as frauhottelman said already - to identify the processes that grow over time. You can use the built-in, just change the view to "process" and sort by memory. WMPlayer or Audiomanager are memory hogs from my experience.
For debugging you may also want to execute "devicehealth.exe". This will create a decent summary of memory consumption to the root (or card-root). You may have to search for it (in the forum or or the web). It is a tiny tool from the SDK afaik.

tobbbie said:
Use the taskmanager - as frauhottelman said already - to identify the processes that grow over time. You can use the built-in, just change the view to "process" and sort by memory. WMPlayer or Audiomanager are memory hogs from my experience.
For debugging you may also want to execute "devicehealth.exe". This will create a decent summary of memory consumption to the root (or card-root). You may have to search for it (in the forum or or the web). It is a tiny tool from the SDK afaik.
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have been using fireburned's rom, seems pretty stable. however, after doing a sync with active sync, the memory which was say 17 mb, dips to 14 mb or less. any hibernate function or say, the task manager or even the sk tools function brings it back to only about 15 mb or a little marginally higher. the more times i use activesync, the same problem occurs. say i use it three times, the memory lands up around 12 mb, after all programs have been shut down. and after using the hibernate function on smart toolkit. any ideas? did a search and found that it s a process called gwes.exe which hogs memory mostly. but this is guess is a system process and cant be shut down i suppose. any suggestions? ur take on this, frauhottellmann?

Still problem not solved!
hmm..tried using the ram free function on sktools. seems to actually decrease the amount of ram available!!! and with each use of active sync, the available ram decreases sharply. my wife has an imate spl, and the amount of ram remains constant around 25MB even after 10 days....anyone have any ideas? have read somewhere that it is a problem peculiar to vox. the problem with decreasing ram is, after 3-4 days, the dialler starts malfunctioning. i am able to make out the calls ringing, but no way i can pick itup. max, i can cut the call. it registers as a missed call....any body with any ideas out there? any way to cut the ram leak?
one more doubt,,,the old sk tools had an optimize wizard. the latest one seems to be lacking this feature. is there anyway that the active sync filesystem can be made read-only ?

Pretty strange. Are you using any third party software that may be causing the problem? Also note that after using activesync, it doesn't shutdown on its own. You have to manually shut it down to release the memory. Further try using the default home screen, instead of the sliding panel which comes with new 6.1 ROMs.
Because I normally have more than 20 MB free . No matter how long I have kept my device on.
Or better still, just reboot the device before going to bed .

yeah. i use photocontacts pro and smart toolkit in addition to microsoft voice command. and is it a good idea to keep rebooting the device daily? i thought the rom upgrade was supposed to fix that!and i love the sliding panels. the default homescreeen sucks

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yeah. i use photocontacts pro and smart toolkit in addition to microsoft voice command. and is it a good idea to keep rebooting the device daily? i thought the rom upgrade was supposed to fix that!and i love the sliding panels. the default homescreeen sucks
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Sliding panel really drains the battery like hell. Its not a problem if you reboot your ROM daily. I flash my device (both), well almost once a week atleast . So that requires rebooting as well. I really don't know whats wrong, but I never had the RAM issue, try fireburned Clean ROM or fraun's lite ROM for a change and see if you find any difference

I have same problem with my htc vox