Flashing + UC + Manilla = Lockups - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

Hey all,
I have a very crazy provisioning script, this thing installs all my apps, moves start menu items, sets up e-mail, sets up network connections, and does a whole buttload of customizations (I am willing to share if you like) and I noticed that any app that needs to shutdown/access outlook during the script locks the phone because manila is running in the background. Even windows Livesearch asks to shut down outlook, but then the phone locks because i guess the manila process wont let it go. I havent tried PIM backup/restore with manila running, but I wanted to share my findings with everyone incase people were having problems.
To get around this, I have a part of my SDCONFIG that enables the phone so I can go to the today settings and turn off manila for the rest of the install.
I'd love to see a reply to this thread and see if anyone has found a workaround other than what I do.
Maybe some chefs can come up with some ideas like disabling manila before customizations begin and then turning it on in the registry before a reboot or something like that. We've got some great minds here im sure we can think of something!
~Rick

RickoT said:
Hey all,
I have a very crazy provisioning script, this thing installs all my apps, moves start menu items, sets up e-mail, sets up network connections, and does a whole buttload of customizations (I am willing to share if you like) and I noticed that any app that needs to shutdown/access outlook during the script locks the phone because manila is running in the background. Even windows Livesearch asks to shut down outlook, but then the phone locks because i guess the manila process wont let it go. I havent tried PIM backup/restore with manila running, but I wanted to share my findings with everyone incase people were having problems.
To get around this, I have a part of my SDCONFIG that enables the phone so I can go to the today settings and turn off manila for the rest of the install.
I'd love to see a reply to this thread and see if anyone has found a workaround other than what I do.
Maybe some chefs can come up with some ideas like disabling manila before customizations begin and then turning it on in the registry before a reboot or something like that. We've got some great minds here im sure we can think of something!
~Rick
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe the chef when cooked in manilla can add reg key to disable at first boot, and then in the preconfig add a reg key to enable at next boot.
suggest it to the chef.
Either way man, Good disscussion!! and good luck
I'll have to test this in my roms to see if it's possible

Yah thats what I was thinking, only thing is that on my phone, my UC script reboots @ the end. So maybe they can just not have manila enabled my default then during the UC script it enables it in the registry after the boot. its pretty easy I have my UC script disable all of the default today items using the app I wrote TodayDisabler, then it goes into the reg and enables just the today plugins I typicaly use (need to update to use manila instead of HTC home and the others i use)

Related

Removing the system tray WM5 & WM6!!

ah ha amen!
I've searched for months for an answer to removing the system tray on WM5 & WM6
Edit your registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/ Software/ HTC/ Trayapplt
Export the Trayapplt string just to be safe you can merge it back if you change your mind.
Once exported delete the Trayapplt string completely and then soft reset your device.
System tray gone and the space is usable
Enjoy
You could have just removed the Init_Tray.lnk in the windows startup folder.
I afraid for most people that doesnt work as they dont even have that link file. I think the difficulty with the system tray is that different people have different circumstances. Some people can remove the int_tray link but If you search the web your'll see a lot of people desperate for a alternative method as they do not have this file on their devices.
It maybe the case that my method may not work for everybody but until someone produces a stable app to remove the system tray we'll keep searching for the best way individually to achieve this.
Sorry, didn't realize that that link didn't exist on all WM devices, but I haven't owned every device to know that. There are however programs that force the system tray such as DotFreds task manager and MyMobiler, etc, which even removing the Init_Tray.lnk doesn't fix because the icons will create their own system tray. Does your fix for it stop them from doing that? If it does, then I might just have to try your fix out for myself.
So far ive been running this setup for 2 days.
I use xcpuscaler which 110% uses a system tray icon whilst running. Ive also minimised many programs and the tray has never reappeared. Im not garenteeing this will work but I do know that its worked perfectly for me.
I hope this helps and if you export the reg as I sugested if the tray doesnt stay hidden for you for some reason then you can always merge it back
Hmm, my kaiser doesn't even have that key so I guess I'm out of luck there. I'm not sure if my wizard does or not, I'm working on cooking a new ROM for it and the ROM I have on it now is kind of messed up. I'll have to check it out when I get my new one cooked though.
fair enough, it seems to be very device related, im talking intensively to a strong programmer to try and sort out something permemantely.
Im running a XDA Orbit (Artemis).
Willl post any findings here
sorry it didnt work for you
Darren_Bridgeland said:
ah ha amen!
I've searched for months for an answer to removing the system tray on WM5 & WM6
Edit your registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/ Software/ HTC/ Trayapplt
Export the Trayapplt string just to be safe you can merge it back if you change your mind.
Once exported delete the Trayapplt string completely and then soft reset your device.
System tray gone and the space is usable
Enjoy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that did the trick for me - thanks
Thanks, just joined today and i am now very happy with the fact this hack worked for me
Joined the forum chasing icons and now i think i wont be able to ever leave
Thanks again.....
No TrayApplt in my registry, unfortunately. Still can't figure out how to remove the tray bar on my Vario II (WM5) permanently. Whatever I tried, nothing worked to my satisfaction..
Edit: No Init_Tray.lnk either! Still looking for solutions, every solution is very welcome as long as it works...
Disable system tray for everything
xeno1 said:
Hmm, my kaiser doesn't even have that key so I guess I'm out of luck there. I'm not sure if my wizard does or not, I'm working on cooking a new ROM for it and the ROM I have on it now is kind of messed up. I'll have to check it out when I get my new one cooked though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My Tilt doesn't have that key either. I don't use the tray, have it disabled, but Task Manager always creates it again, until I exit Task Manager.
My Wizard doesn't have that key either.
Programs I have found so far that may cause the system tray to appear:
- Dotfred's Task Manager
- My Mobiler
- Pocket Informer
- SOTI's Pocket PC Controller (or similar: I don't recall its name)
- SPB Pocket Plus
All of these can be made to not create a system tray through their respective settings or otherwise, I believe. Currently I have MyMobiler, Dotfred's, Pocket Informer and Pocket Plus installed, and I have no system tray on my Kaiser. The above registry hack didn't work for me.

Htc Touch On A Wizard

With all the files everybody has produced on this website, I'm able to get very close to my wifes phone, but not exact I have a g4 wizard. She has an elf, it's so cool, but no keyboard, hah hah. Anyway, I'd like to build a custom rom(I will read and learn all about that when I'm ready), but I need to be sure that I can get certain features to work correctly before I start rom building. I'm currently using the wizard_19855_Clean_V1 rom and it's great, stable everything works. What I'm doing:
1. Install as many of the htc apps as possible(I can't get some to work)(ie htc task manager) (I can handle this)
2. I want the htc cube to work oem. no ftouchflo, no sclpc++(f)(need help here)
3. Strip the OS of unused files to boost performance(need help here)
4. Build a new rom(I'll figure this out when I'm ready)
2. I need help with the "oem"(I think oem) cube I attached htc_touchflo.zip so everyone can see what I'm working with. Most of the files do not exist on my wizard with 19855. What I've found is that the cube will work(somewhat) with these files(- (minus) touch.dll). I've left the touch.dll that came with 19855 alone and it was bigger in size so it must do more...right? lol The first time the cube loads(by clicking on biotouch shortcut, not sure if that's right, I could preload it in startup, but...) it pulls up the contacts page and displays it correctly(but nothing works), from there I can rotate the cube with finger gestures horizontally, it's a little slow but it works 195 MHz baby, yeah. The aplauncher and mediahub are there, very minimal just blank black place holders. Okay, so a finger gesture down will "minimize" the cube, but it doesn't refresh the screen back to what was there previously. I think it will pull up again with a finger gesture(can't remember but clicking one of the shortcuts will definately bring it back), but it doesn't display correctly until you rotate horizontally. What I'm looking for: I'm wondering if there is someone willing to work with me to get the oem cube working. Probably need support for .dll files ie(touch) and then the registry, I'm fine editing the registry, but I don't know what the default settings are or should be. I've tried a couple of the cube settings apps out there and none seem to work in this scenario.
3. A link similar to slimming down windows xp: the complete guide(cool article), but for windows mobile 5-6.1. What can we pull out of this bloated os without causing issues to stability? Like pictures unused .dll files etc.
Or look at it like what really needs to be there? From there I will build my rom...Thanks in advance to anyone willing to partake.
Anyone willing to help?
In Addition
when the cube is up, the aplauncher and mediahub buttons do work, but there not mapped to anything, so it says to reinstall the application. Where is this thing pulling(looking for) this information? registry?
I think I titled my post correctly
Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree? Has this been done before? I wasn't able to find a working oem version of the cube for the wizard and I wasn't satisfied by ftouchflo and the different cube clones out there. No offense is intended, I think they are great alternatives, but I'd like to figure out the oem version. If no one is interested, that's fine, I just thought that someone else would like to see this available because I did. If anyone is available to provide guidance to me that would be gladly accepted as well. Or show me some links as to why this is not possible, that would be great so I'm not wasting my time if someone has already tried to do what I'm doing. Any replies gladly accepted, maybe it will get a conversation going, communcation can drive things as well. Thanks
Trying Attachments again...
Trying to get the attachments posted
man the touchflo dont download wotsup with dat
I tested downloading it, I had to be logged in to do so though. In the download there is a folder called cube, I put this on my start menu so I can interact with the cube when I don't know where it's at.
I think if someone could point me to or post the default registry settings for the touch, heh duh, I'll ask my wife if I can look at hers...Should be simple enough. I have an idea from a couple of posts over in the elf forum, I think her is a vogue though not sure what the difference is. Any one know? Is it just the provider model like 8125 compared to tmobile mda?
I'm trying to get each of the cube applications to open independently via a shortcut menu similar to the programs folder. Right now I have the media hub mini working, so I will copy the settings for this application to a new .reg file.
Oh, my wife's touch's files copied everything registry and files and put them on my wizard with no luck, but the registry may contain some interesting info. But all the apps are a different version though.
80%
Similar to other post, I can't get the quickdial to work correctly. With the settings below, I can open, close, and spin the cube. The aplauncher & the media hub work. The quickdial does not, seems to open, but does not display. I can see the process running, but nothing. If your interested, here are the registry settings to get this to work:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch]
"MediaHubMini"="06042007 V2.5 Final"
"BioTouch Ver"="05102007 V2.0"
"APLauncher"="05212007 V2.3 Final Release"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLauncher]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLauncher\App1_1]
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Name"="Email"
"Path"="\\Windows\\tmail.exe"
"Param"="-service \\"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\AL_01.png"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\AL_01_HL.png"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLauncher\App1_2]
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Name"="Internet Explorer"
"Path"="\\Windows\\iexplore.exe"
"Param"="NULL"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\AL_02.png"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\AL_02_HL.png"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLauncher\App1_3]
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Name"="Comm Manager"
"Path"="\\Windows\\CommManager.exe"
"Param"="NULL"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\AL_03.png"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\AL_03_HL.png"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLauncher\App2_1]
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Name"="SMS/MMS"
"Path"="\\Windows\\tmail.exe"
"Param"="-service \\"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\AL_04.png"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\AL_04_HL.png"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLauncher\App2_2]
"Name"="Tasks"
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Path"="\\Windows\\tasks.exe"
"Param"="NULL"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\AL_05.png"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\AL_05_HL.png"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLauncher\App2_3]
"Name"="Calender"
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Path"="\\Windows\\poutlook.exe"
"Param"="calendar"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\AL_06.png"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\AL_06_HL.png"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\MediaHubMini]
"APNameFontSize"=dword:00000018
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\MediaHubMini\App1_3]
"Param"="-mode:camera -type:video"
"IconPlayingPressPath"="\\Windows\\MH_2_03_HL.brn"
"IconPlayingPath"="\\Windows\\MH_2_03.brn"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\MH_03_HL.brn"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\MH_03.brn"
"Name"="Videos"
"Path"="\\Windows\\HTCAlbum.exe"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\MediaHubMini\App1_2]
"Param"="-mode:camera -type:image"
"IconPlayingPressPath"="\\Windows\\MH_2_02_HL.brn"
"IconPlayingPath"="\\Windows\\MH_2_02.brn"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\MH_02_HL.brn"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\MH_02.brn"
"Name"="Pictures"
"Path"="\\Windows\\HTCAlbum.exe"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\MediaHubMini\App1_1]
"IconPlayingPressPath"="\\Windows\\MH_2_01_HL.brn"
"IconPlayingPath"="\\Windows\\MH_2_01.brn"
"IconPressPath"="\\Windows\\MH_01_HL.brn"
"IconPath"="\\Windows\\MH_01.brn"
"Param"="NULL"
"Path"="\\Windows\\AudioManager.exe"
"Name"="Music"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\MediaHubMini\MediaType]
"SettingsType"=dword:00000000
"Type"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\Biotouch]
"Mode"=dword:00000002
"Path18"="\\Windows\\C02.brn"
"Path17"="\\Windows\\C01.brn"
"Path16"="\\Windows\\B02.brn"
"Path15"="\\Windows\\B01.brn"
"Path14"="\\Windows\\A02.brn"
"Path13"="\\Windows\\A01.brn"
"Path12"="\\Windows\\C5.brn"
"Path11"="\\Windows\\C3.brn"
"Path10"="\\Windows\\C1.brn"
"Path9"="\\Windows\\C0.brn"
"Path8"="\\Windows\\B5.brn"
"Path7"="\\Windows\\B3.brn"
"Path6"="\\Windows\\B1.brn"
"Path5"="\\Windows\\B0.brn"
"Path4"="\\Windows\\A5.brn"
"Path3"="\\Windows\\A3.brn"
"Path2"="\\Windows\\A1.brn"
"Path1"="\\Windows\\A0.brn"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\TFSettings]
"LinePos"=dword:0000002E
"NameSize"=dword:00000019
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"EnableSound"=dword:00000000
"PageHigh"=dword:00000008
"PageLow"=dword:00000005
"SpeedLow"=dword:00000041
"UpLength"=dword:0000012C
"DownLength"=dword:000001B8
"Boundry"=dword:000004B4
"FingerPressure"=dword:00000A8C
"2ndSample"=dword:00000012
"DelayDiff"=dword:00000028
"EnableCube"=dword:00000001
"1stSample"=dword:0000000C
"SpeedHigh"=dword:00000014
"PanType"=dword:00000001
"EnableScroll"=dword:00000001
The above settings work on my g4 wizard with only the attached htc_touchflo.zip copied to the windows directory. Anybody got a working quickdial.exe for the wizard? I've noticed there are different versions out there, maybe there is one that works. It needs to open up from the shortcut in the zip file and by no other means. Thanks
Well, I've tested different versions of the quickdial app that I've found and none of them seem to function. Am I wasting my time? Does anyone know?, please reply. Does anyone have any links to what files can be removed while conserving stability. For instance if I want to use advanced task manager, is it possible to remove the regular task manager files and links?

Questions about Manila 2D

Hi everyone, I installed Manila 2D with update 20 on my AT&T Tilt (HTC 8925). I've noticed some weird things and I was wondering if these are items that the developers know about or if there are any fixes for them:
1) I have Windows Mobile 6.1 and my backlight settings keep reverting back to turn off the backlight on the screen after 10 seconds. I installed the backlight patch release by Microsofy or HTC (I forget who) and it fixed the problem. But since I installed Manila 2D it broke again. I tried re-running the backlight fix but it still won't help.
2) On my home screen, even if I clear my call history, I still get the "! Call History" indicator showing up. It just doesn't go away.
3) On the mail screen, I love how I can preview part of the message within the letter coming out of the envelope. However, I have 3 mail boxes/systems setup. First I have my device wirelessly receiving emails from my corporate Exchange Server. For all those emails, I do see the preview. But I also have a second email "mailbox" which gets my emails from my hotmail account. Those won't show me a preview, it simply says "Click to view message". I also get have the same problem with all emails from my 3rd mailbox, which retreives emails every 5 minutes from my Comcast account. Any ideas why I can only preview emails from my first Email Account?
4) I like the new Audio Manager and it's much nicer than the Windows Mobile one. BUT, I can only set my volume to 6 diferent settings! (using the main volume control). In the Windows Media version I can hit the up key on the dpad and set the volume from 0-100% with increments of 5% I think. But with the Manila 2D/HTC Audio Manager, the volume on some songs are too loud or too soft. I can't seem to find a good setting. Has anyone else noticed this lack of ability to set a good volume setting?
These are the main issues which annoy me. Aside from these I love the look and feel of Manila 2D - TouchFlo version. But because of issue 1 and 4 (backlight problem and music volume problem) I think I'll need to go back to the standard WM 6.1 and remove my Manila 2D. Has anyone experienced my issues above or have any info on fixes or if these are being looked at for next release?
Thanks a bunch!!!
i have to go pull my tilt back out, but let me see if i can recreate the problem you ask for help on and i will get back to you hopefully with an answer.
M2D answers:
1. Not sure what phone you have, or what patch you were referring to. I guess it is individually related to ROM or phone. Can you tell me what ROM/Phone it is?
2. The text 'Call History' is the default when you have no missed calls. When you do, it will have more info. If you hate it, and willing to lose this info, use M2DC and make any line you don't like disappear.
3. Most likely the messages on your Hotmail are HTML based, not text, or contains images. Try sending yourself a simple text message and see if it shows. if it doesn't , then your email account simply sends out a format M2D considers an image the viewer can not show. I don't have a Hotmail acct, but i would guess there is a way to set it up to simple text. Then it will work.
4. There are tools on this forum, allowing you to choose what player you want to use. I don't use them, but can recall at least one config tool to M2D that will allow you to change it to your taste.
I personally like M2D a lot. I think it is one of the best home plugins there are there, and I have tried the all. SPB, WAD , Home screen, HTC home, etc. none were so cool as M2D, but it is in the eye of the beholder, after all..
fix for backlight found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2928782&postcount=5171%22
another Manila 2D Question
thanks to gooniez28 for starting this thread, i have question before installing Manila 2D. i've seen so many Manila 2D madness here and i'd like to try it on my nike.
according to several informations on internet, i found that we have to flash our rom before installing the theme and this Manila needs more memory used in our device.
i'm so noob for flashing the rom and i'm affraid of its risk , this is my 1st windows mobile phone (and the only one that i have ), so can i instal it without flashing the rom? e.g. i have 68 MB free memory
thanks in advice
regards,
den
I never flashed my ROM. I actually didn't realize you were supposed to do that. (nor do I know how) I just copied the Manila 2D files to my TILT (HTC 8925) and ran them to install Manila 2D. You know, that may be the reason that every time I turn on my phone, it asks me to click in the middle of the screen to load TouchFlo Manila 2D. I wonder if I wouldn't have to do this if I flash my ROM...
Right now as far as i understand manilla only supports one email account at a time

A Few Noob Questions

Hello,
I am a new AT&T Fuze owner and new in general to Windows Mobile "Professional". (Had a Symbian 60 Device Previously) I have been doing extensive reading and researching to figure out how to accomplish my goals but I keep running into dead ends. I have been searching forums and Google but I find that most information is formatted for people that have been in the community for a long time and understand all of the jargon. There seems to be so many flavors of windows and platforms that it makes my head spin and I also find that words like Smartphone, Pocket PC, Window CE, etc.. are thrown around very loosely.
Sorry for the preamble. Here is what I know so far.
Device = AT&T Fuze
CE OS 5.2.19971 (Build 19971.1.2.6)
CID = HTC_P4600 (Not listed in the WIKI here)
ROM = 1.95.502..5 WWE (10/20/08)
Radio = 1.02.25.32
Protocol = 52.39c.25.22h
First I was wondering if there was a positive way of knowing if a certain piece of software will work with my device and what that spec would be. Like does it go by windows version, phone version, both? Or at least some general rules of thumb what to take note of before trying a piece of software. (If it was designed for or works on other flavors of Raphael is it safe to try?)
My biggest problem at the moment is I can't seem to install anything anymore. I am getting a message about unsigned cabs or files missing. I'm hoping this wasn't something I did but it's a possibility. Some software "PPCPimBackup.exe" will still install but most won't like "Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab". I even tried to make a simple .cab using CeRegEditor to adjust the city string for the weather tab in TF3D. Any help here would be most appreciated. I am very weary of all these so called "unlockers" out there and even read a thread here where someone bricked their device by installing the wrong software for the device.
Is the Fuze the same as the Diamond? (They look identical)
What is the preferred way to back up the entire device or is it even possible with standard software? Most of what I found backs up PIM info.
When a program (Taskmanager 3.1) says to minimize, where does it go? How do you bring it back to the foreground or do you have to install a taskbar manager?
I actually have more I want to ask but that probably wouldn't be prudent. I think if I could help myself better once I understand what software I can and can't use with my phone.
Many thanks in advance and apologize for noobing up your forum =P
Eidolen
I'll try to answer some of your questions.
1) Normally, software will say windows mobile 5 or 6 as a requirement along with maybe .Net Framework. If it's for Windows Mobile most likely it'll work. Just have to try it and see.
2) Your programs are probably not installing because you may not have the required .Net Framework. I know Advance Config requires .Net Framework 3.5. So if you don't have it, install it. You can find it here or from Microsoft's website. You need the Windows CE or Compact version.
3) The Fuze is similar to the Diamond but don't go trying to install ROMs that are made for the Diamond. Use the ones in the Raphael forums.
4) If you want to backup your entire device, use a program such as Sprite Backup. This will make a full backup of entire system excluding ROM. However, if you want to do a restore, you need to make sure you have the same ROM installed, if not, it will create a lot of problems.
5) With TaskManager, when you minimize it just continues to run in the background. Program is still loaded and taking up memory/etc. Similar to when you minimize something in Windows. To bring it back, you can view the TaskManager and restore to foreground.
Hope that helps somewhat.
Wow,
Thanks you for the quick and non condescending reply. I've been surfing more since I posted and hopefully I could get you to elaborate on a few things.
2) Your programs are probably not installing because you may not have the required .Net Framework. I know Advance Config requires .Net Framework 3.5. So if you don't have it, install it. You can find it here or from Microsoft's website. You need the Windows CE or Compact version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did the .Net install and it went without a hitch but still no joy. I noticed on the authors support forums that others are having the same problem but no clear solution has been posted. /Sigh
I was thinking I needed to follow a procedure similar to the one listed here where you have to install a certificate and make some policy changes in the registry but since I can't find any info specifically for the Fuze I haven't done anything yet other than download the certificate that was linked in that post.
I should mention I am not a complete computer illiterate, and am fully comfortable with the registry and even more advanced techniques if necessary. I should also mention that I don't plan on replacing my rom at all. Just want to keep it to basic reg hacks, software installs, and some theming once I get things working the way I want.
I did already change one registry policy key (0000101a) to "1" from a thread I found on these forums, as it is something easily changed back but of course it did not help.
4) If you want to backup your entire device, use a program such as Sprite Backup. This will make a full backup of entire system excluding ROM. However, if you want to do a restore, you need to make sure you have the same ROM installed, if not, it will create a lot of problems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, I will check this out. Sounds like exactly what I was looking for.
5) With TaskManager, when you minimize it just continues to run in the background. Program is still loaded and taking up memory/etc. Similar to when you minimize something in Windows. To bring it back, you can view the TaskManager and restore to foreground.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I understand what you said but what I was trying to figure out is how to recall it from the background. It doesn't show up in the TF3D task list when it's minimized so I was wondering if you had to click on the task bar or do some certain trick to bring it to the fore-front. The ability to move between programs easily is my biggest gripe so far as I seem to have to open and close the keyboard, hit home or back a lot to move around. I would love the ability to hit some hot key or some secret spot on the screen to launch taskmanager and then I could use it to go to whatever program I wanted.
I have seen a few bugs in TM_3.1 that cause crashes, but it is an awesome program and hopefully the developer will keep working out the bugs. If there is another program you would recommend that accomplished the same type of functionality I'd be interested in trying it out.
Thanks again for your friendly help.
Eidolen
Just looked at the contents of that cab referenced from that link I posted. It is just a Setup.xml file with the following contents.
<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="SecurityPolicy">
<parm name="4119" value="144"/>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>
Any thoughts?
As for .Net, the following is from Modaco, and I found that it worked like a charm:
How to install and use .NET Compact Framework 3.5
If you're a developer or have knowledge of .net Compact Framework, you'll be aware that version 3.5 has shipped. You'll be aware that it offers a number of enhancements in features, stability and performance, and you'll likely also know that it provides full backwards compatability with previous versions of the Compact Framework. What you may NOT know is that when CF 3.5 is installed on a device, applications that target previous versions of the Compact Framework will continue to run against the old versions, and 3.5 and previous versions will live side by side on the device. Only when new devices come along will we see ONLY 3.5 on a device.
This presents a number of problems, namely
• Users who deploy CF 3.5 to their device but use applications targeting older versions will not benefit from the 3.5 performance improvements
• Developers who develop apps for pre CF 3.5 frameworks cannot easily test their applications ready for when 3.5 only devices come along
Thankfully, help is at hand in the form of a little known Compact Framework 3.5 powertoy named '.Net Configuration'. The application, which is available at Microsoft, provides the user with full granularity of control over the .net CF on their device. You can see installed versions, change the used CF version for a particular application or change the used CF version for all applications run on your device! Perfect!
Sadly in Microsoft's infinite wisdom the application in question is tucked away in simple EXE inside the 6.2MB download and somewhat hard to find, so i've taken the liberty of packaging it up into a CAB here that installs it with it's own Start Menu shortcut.
- Run '.Net Configuration' from your Start Menu
- Navigate to the 'Device Policy' tab and select version 3.5
- Select 'Apply' then 'OK'
That's it, you're done!
Thanks kindly but I'm guessing now that myself or a piece of software I've installed has borked my ability to install software. It seems I can install exe files but no cabs, including the one you posted will install.
As I've stated I have not made any attempts to unlock anything yet but have installed some software and made some registry tweaks. I wish I could see what exactly is happening like Procmon does for windows to pinpoint the problem, but I might just have to resort to a hard reset if I can't figure it out.
I'm open to any ideas but if I don't figure it out tonight I guess I'll reset tomorrow. Thanks for the guidance and help.
Cheers,
Eidolen
@eidolen
You have a SD card?
Gimme some time and I write you a little 101 how to deal with the Fuze.
eidolen said:
Thanks kindly but I'm guessing now that myself or a piece of software I've installed has borked my ability to install software. It seems I can install exe files but no cabs, including the one you posted will install.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
eidolen said:
I did already change one registry policy key (0000101a) to "1" from a thread I found on these forums, as it is something easily changed back but of course it did not help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You might want to double-check that registry hack to make sure it's correct. Seems like a big coincidence that the one registry hack you've made so far is to allow unsigned cabs to install and the biggest problem you seem to be having is that you can't get unsigned cabs to install....
eidolen
You have a SD card?
Gimme some time and I write you a little 101 how to deal with the Fuze.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I ordered my SD card yesterday =/ Hopefully be here soon. Still very interested in the 101 though!
You might want to double-check that registry hack to make sure it's correct. Seems like a big coincidence that the one registry hack you've made so far is to allow unsigned cabs to install and the biggest problem you seem to be having is that you can't get unsigned cabs to install....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I gave that a shot but no joy. That wasn't the only reg hack I did but the only relating to "Unlocking". I haven't touched anything I wasn't pretty sure about. For instance I have looked at all the tweaks for speeding up the TF3D using cache setting but the numbers don't match so I never tried it. If I didn't understand what the tweak was I stayed away.
I did the PTT button tweak for voice/camera and played around with the cities for the weather app. Other than that I can't think of anything else I touched in the registry but I did a lot of looking.
On the other hand I have installed a good bit of software to try out. I have also rearranged my menu items by deleting shortcuts in the start menu folder. Even though I've done a good bit to the phone I think it might be best to start from scratch with a hard reset and start again with the knowledge I've gained in the past few days. My Opera browser has been getting a real workout with 40+ tabs going =P
I did find another thread here that has someone with a similar problem but the way it happened was entirely different. His fix was to wipe the phone and use the same software I was trying to install when I found this problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3038792#post3038792
I took ecltech's advice and got Sprite Backup and made a backup already. I would rather fix the problem but it sounds like it might be difficult tracking it down so I'm prepared to start again. What would be great is finding some guide or general direction in what programs and or tweaks I should install and in what order and any other pertinent information regarding starting from scratch. "The Must Have" utilities and programs.
I can't believe how helpful everyone's been so far considering this is a developers board. I figured it was worth the risk to get chewed in the hopes of getting the best advice. With all the info surfing I've been doing it's clear that this is the site where it all happens.
Cheers and thanks again,
Eidolen
OMG!
I'm almost too afraid to admit it but at least I feel good that I figured it out on my own. I was smart enough to make a backup of the registry with CeRedEditor before doing anything major and remembered it had a compare feature. After loading it up It immediately occurred to me to look at HKCR\cabfile and that's where I found my answer.
I had downloaded a little free utility from SKTools called Cabinstaller that allows you to choose where programs get installed. Somehow the registry entry it made didn't correctly point to the executable. In any case I think I installed it late the other night and forgot about it because the exe files I installed after that installed fine. I should have tested it immediately and I wouldn't have had this problem. /sigh
Thank you everyone for the help and ideas and even though I've fixed this problem I still might do a full reset and start from scratch now that I got all mentally prepared to do it and start over feeling a little more confident in what I'm doing.
While it's on my mind right now and since I never got a solution for the question in my first post, is there a hack or small little program that will allow you to put a shortcut in either the top bar where the start menu is or in the bottom where the shortcut for the on screen keyboard is so I can invoke the Task Manager easily to help with navigating? I wouldn't even be opposed to a shortcut in the TF3D pop-up you get when clicking on the top right bar. It would be great if this could be done with a bloated program but not opposed to it if the program is useful.
Thanks again everyone. I guess I'll start a new post for any new questions. (I have lots but will try and figure out as much as I can by myself first.)
Cheers,
Eidolen
eidolen said:
I
I took ecltech's advice and got Sprite Backup and made a backup already. I would rather fix the problem but it sounds like it might be difficult tracking it down so I'm prepared to start again. What would be great is finding some guide or general direction in what programs and or tweaks I should install and in what order and any other pertinent information regarding starting from scratch. "The Must Have" utilities and programs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you're probably right about starting again from scratch. It would probably be less work than tracking down what's causing your problem and then you'll be starting with a cleaner slate for installing everything going forward.
There are a few different threads on here about what constitutes "must have" apps for the Fuze and the one thing I can say is that no two people agree on the list! Your best bet is to seach out those threads and see which ones you think would be most useful to you. A great place to get started is at http://www.blownfuze.org using username and password 'xda' (without the quotes)
My suggestions for the generic must haves are:
Total Commander
PHM Registry Editor (or whichever reg editor you prefer)
Diamond Tweak
Diamond TF3D Config
Other basic programs that might be worth checking out depending on what you do on your fuze are:
PocketShield or S2U2 for locking the phone
TCPMP Core Media Player
TorchButton for using the LED flash as a flashlight
BeyondPod or pRSS Reader for RSS feeds and podcasts
GoogleMaps and/or Live Search
Good luck!
Sprite backup is included in your Fuze as original software. I always keep a full backup copy on my Sd card of a good clean WM 6.1 install with all the must have tweaks done already. You will find it saves alot of headaches when you mess something up trying things out. After that I do a weekly backup as I add more and more stuff over time.
does diamond TF3D Config or diamond tweak work with this ROM version?
Thanks yzf750, I am preparing to do just that. I am getting prepared for a hard reset now once I notate what I want to keep that's on my phone already. Hopefully I can get it set up by the time my SD card arrives this coming week and can do the backup to it for keeps.
I read a blog post about doing a soft reset after a hard reset to prevent the ATT software from installing and I think I really want to try that. I just need to make sure I install the stuff I want to keep like TF3D manually afterwards. I'm hoping to find a more detailed guide for the procedure than what was posted though.
I'll post back and report if the smoke genie escapes or not.
Eidolen
some n00b guidance
Ok so i have been looking at these forums for a few days now doing homework before i even get the phone(its ordered). So my questions are
1. if i have AT&T unlock the phone(i know someone who works there so i hope they can help out) do i still need to do the hardspl to change radios etc?
2. Whats really the difference between all these roms built by users and just using BuildOS(im assuming this works on GSM phones and not just CDMA because its from PPC) to build your own ROM? and do most of these tweeks come prebuilt into these roms or do u still need to to other stuff? i.e reg tweaks etc, like i think it would be better for me to just build a rom with BuildOS with the apps i want etc and not keep flashing all the time
3. Is GPS still a problem for people?, i think ill just use tomtom or garmin and hope for the best as its not a huge concern. After looking around i guess its just a matter of finding the radio that works best for the individual, so anyone in the .US new england area have any recommendations of the best radio in the northeast like NYC area?
4. whats a good order to do this stuff?, i plan on using the phone for a couple days or so as stock just to get the general feel of the OS in general. then prolly flash the ROM with a custom BuildOS ROM(unless someone can provide the difference between BuildOS and say PROven ROM), then do w.e else needs to be done. ive seen the recommeded tweaks, just not sure if they still need to be done with a flashed ROM. not really looking for a game phone more office apps like RDP and irc etc, sys admin tools
Basically i think theres just a ton of info on here which is a good thing but im just getting started on Winmo although flashing etc dosent intimidate me so im eager to get started just a little unclear on some things and cant seem to find the answer just surfing, so any help or links to some stuff i might have missed is appreciated. Pretty much just want a smooth runnin ROM thats not stock of course, decent gps reception and the apps i want. thanks all
Look here, I made a little write-up for the basics using a stock ATT ROM. I ran this routine actually twice on my phone (ROM flashing junkie) so it should be fairly complete.
I have to note that, in most cases at least, I know what I do and can "recover" from a ROM flash within ~ 30 minutes, having all software, tweaks and contacts restored.
Regarding ROMs
That's an open can of worms with two next to it waiting. Read the threads and read the problems and decide later if you want to flash or not. If you are not used to WinMo phones it's perhaps better to hold back a week or two.
Some ROMs are built from original Raphael builts others are based on WinMo 6.1 but contain partially applications and tweaks from other HTC devices. The latest build # need not to be the best. For example RRE's ROM is based on the original ATT ROM and he created a really nice good performing ROM while other Chefs rip out first all guts and basics of a ROM (making it "naked") adding features and programs later. That's a more or less political discussion what's better and what's not and you have to decide yourself based on what you read and/or experience. For MY part I know Monx/HT from the Tilt times and always appreciated his work and speedy ROMs and he continued the same line on the Raphael/Fuze though it took him some time to come where he is right now.
As said all political in that regards, almost all ROMs out there ARE GOOD and have advantages in the one or the other area.
Tweaks
Yes the tweaks work even for a stock ATT ROM with ATT's TouchFlo/Manila (though I think it's plain ugly).
GPS
Again a difficult subject. For example the stock GPS (enabled or disabled assisted GPS settings) works kinda well with google maps BUT doesn't perform as expected with 3rd party GPS apps (TomTom, iGO). Keep in mind a lot came from other devices and for example iGO on the Tilt rocked down to the street number with no lag at all where the Fuze is doing more "guesstimating" than performing (compared to the Tilt).
Backup
Do a PIM backup once or twice a week and do a FULL backup once a week or if you installed new software after you confirm that you like it. If you wreck your phone for whatever reason AND you stay with the SAME ROM a full restore will work.
Just Wow!
That's an impressive piece of work there. I haven't stopped reading or poking around while I'm waiting for my SD card to get here and had quite some experience today. I did read the thread regarding doing a "Non-Bloat" Install and actually started to do it but stopped when I realized there still seems to be some residual bugs to the process. I figured for now even with the little bit of confidence I've gained I'd wait on that a little longer.
I did jot some info down while it was still "Bloat-Free" for anyone interested:
Bloatfree Services:
App Service APP1:
USSD APP8:
Push to Talk PTT0:
EnlargeStartMenuEMX0:
HTC IMS service IMS0:
STK Service AP15:
LargeTitleBar AP21:
HtcServices HSV2:
Keypad KBD1:
Bluetooth Audio Gateway BAG0:
Software Disable Dialog Service SDD0:
Sync Bluetooth Server ASV0:
Software Management Service SWM0:
Certificate Enroll Engine CES0:
SNApi SNA0:
DPT DPY0:
LAS LAS0:
Credential Manager CRD0:
Notify NFY0:
OBEX OBX0:
Bluetooth HID Loader BHL0:
SqmUpload SQM0:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bloatfree Processes:
NK.exe
RegistryCSPTool.exe
OperaPreL.exe
poutlook.exe
sapsettings.exe
opera9.exe
htcimssvc.exe
tmail.exe
cecmd.exe <--Total Commander
conmgr.exe
TaskMgr.exe <--duh
rapiclnt.exe
repllog.exe <--activesync
biotouch.exe
shell32.exe
QuickGPS.exe
VoiceCMD.exe
SIPGT_app.exe
services.exe
filesys.exe
gwes.exe
manilla.exe
device.exe
cprog.exe
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I forgot to check the memory and storage readings sadly but I figured this list could be checked against the full bloat version to see what processes and services could be killed. I figured I'd play with a full working install so if anything didn't work I would know it was from myself or software I installed instead of guessing if it was a side effect of the no bloat process. Also I could learn what the bloat was and strip it away.
Once I decided on Bloat I started a Log/Diary of everything I did for my own reference and thought it might be useful for troubleshooting later. Everything was going smooth until I decided to take on the behemoth named RealVGA.
Luckily I made a full Sprite backup previous to playing with it and am reinstalling that backup as I write this.
If there is one piece of advice I could give from the little knowledge I've gained so far is that most of the upper-end hacks/tweaks software that is available are living breathing complex entities and are not to be taken lightly. Each one needs to be thoroughly researched and understood before using unless you have an older device that has been supported for a long time. I find very little information on using most software regarding the Fuze even though it is very similar to other devices. Truth is, it is not identical which can make things hairy at times. Anyway the more you fail, the more you learn.
For other Fuze owners out there I'll post my personal log so you have an idea what programs I had trouble with and what I tried to do to resolve them. For sure I had huge problems with RealVGA as well as PocketCM and PocketCm Keyboard. It's a shame too as they all are outstanding upgrades.
Well I think I'll be ready for your tutorial when my card gets here so I will be sure to report back to let you know how it went. I already learned a lot just from reading it. For one I didn't know you could do anything over usb if you cancelled the ActiveSync. I just used that trick while restoring my phone and still haven't done a sync. I'm sure that guide will be a huge help to many like myself.
Huge Thanks!
Eidolen
PHP:
Diary of a Blown Fuze (Blown Attempt that is)
Just a stream of consisnous, sorry if some doesn't make sense
Log got more vebose as I went.
"Fresh Bloated Install"
Boot
Set Weather City
Configure WiFi
Calibrate G-Sensor
==================================
Memory:
Storage======Program
Total 294.53 || Total 200.99
In Use 74.05 || In Use 70.93
Free 220.48 || Free 130.06
==================================
Turn off Auto Backlight - Adjusted Settings
Removed Programs - I Play Jewel
Configured all settings under "All Settings" tab
=====================================================
Having keyboard problems where it is unresponsive. Had to use on-screen KB
to write user information. Also had KB lag a few times afterwards but not
as severe.
=====================================================
SYNC (Merged 89 file items)
Install NETCFSetupv35.msi
Install netcfcfg.cab
Install tcmdpocketarm.cab
Configured .Net to use 3.5
Installed Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab
Create Sprite Backup "Fresh Install" ACT3.3 not config yet
=========================================================
Phone supplied Sprite backup software reported "backing up 85mb" but when finished
the file is only 144kb! Not sure what happened. Will try to initiate
a backup from the desktop software.
=========================================================
Initiated Full Desktop Version backup "Fresh Install 2 FULL" 93.03M
Ended with file size of 60.3M
**********************************************************
Configure Advanced Config Tool:
User Interface ->
Horizontal Icon Spacing: 150
Vertical Icon Spacing: 140
Icon title font size: 8
Popup Menu Font Size: 800
Power Management ->
All either default or "Advised" setting if applicable
Screen ->
Show Orientation: Yes (default)
Keyboard Backlight Timeout: 15sec
Suggested Words: 3
Network ->
Device friendly Name: #####
Phone ->
Show All Call History: Yes
Call History Clean: Never
Show Battery Icon: Yes
Show Band: Yes
Bluetooth ->
BT Device Name: #####
GPS ->
Logfile Size: 32K
Internet Explorer ->
4 Way Navigation: Disabled
Clear Type: Enabled
Search Page: Google
Max Connections Per Server: 8
Messaging ->
SMS Delivery Notification: Yes
Use Unicode Support: Yes
Symc Sent Items: Yes
Show Roaming: Yes
Calendar ->
Show Lunar: Yes
Show Events in Week View: Yes
Camera ->
Capture Key Delay: Enabled
Key Delay: Enabled
HTC Animation ->
Volume: 90
HTC Camera Album ->
OK Button: Close
Misc:
Auto Daylight Savings Switch: Yes
Show Daylight Savings Notification: Yes
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Noticed lots of options missing from last time I used this program before the hard reset like more font sizes among other things>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
**************************************************************
Sprite Resore "PIM_2008-12-13.exe" PIM info Only
Contacts Restored but no TF3D settings were retained
(No contacts in TF3D, Messages, etc..)
Set up both email accounts
Set Up online AB LDAP
Adjusted Camera Settings
Copied My Pictures,Notes, Ringtones, PTT shortcuts and other "Files" back to device using Sprite Explorer File=2008-12-14.exe
Extracted "Browser Favorites" From Sprite Explorer /System Settings 2008-12-14.exe
Hand Edit Opera.ini
Transferred Some opera files (wand.dat, cookies, images) using Sprite Explorer 2008-12-14.exe
Transferred a pantload of s/w to be installed
Installed Diamond_TF3D_Config_Setup_v0.6.7.cab
(Made speed adjustments and removed Worldcard and "Unknown" TAB. Also "Unlocked" Noticed program launcher shows a ton of empty entries.)
Install ResPack128dpi.ARM.CAB
Install ResPack96dpi.ARM.CAB
(Sprite backup crashed on reboot from ResPack96dpi.ARM.CAB)
InstallRealVGA_11.CAB
Install missing ipxxx.dll's and screen went black then rebooted
**** my Pants *chant* no-brick no-brick no-brick
Watched it reboot. Something crashed but then TF3D loaded with tiny fonts!! (128dpi)
Modified Menu Icon spacing for 4 in a row. (Want to tweak further if I keep RealVGA)
=================================================================================
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\
Add New Key "IconConfig"
In there Add DWORD Value:
"HorizontalIconSpacing" Dec value="112"
"VerticalIconSpacing" Dec value="115"
"IconTitleFontSize" Dec value="6"
==================================================================================
Notice a small black band on TF3D screens at the bottom. Acts as part of the tabs
Total commander toggle icon bar does not fully open up.
Contact all people link does not work
Contacts from Start Menu does not Work
Phone does not work
Installed respack96outlookfix.cab and Changed to 96 DPI now contacts and phone works!!
Adding Contacts in TF3D very buggy, auto puts in a picture somehow and have to go back and change it.
NVM...It selects the pics I had assigned before the reset somehow. Cool!
On Screen Keyboards Very Borked (Only Partially Visiable) Trying PocketCM Keyboard for VGA *Crosses Fingers*
It works but no colors, just plain Gray *humph!*
===============================================================
Config Fonts in Advanced config tool
UI ->
H Scroll Width: 25
V Scroll Width: 25
H Arrow Size: 32
V Arrow Size: 32
Icon Title Font Size: 16 (Was 6)
Menu Bar Font: Large
Popup Menu Font Size: Large
===============================================================
Reset
Home TF3D Screen buggy, Tabs at bottom are doubled up. Clears when used to scroll but large black bar at bottom now
Wow! TF3D Communtications screen is really toast! It shows in upper left screen and at least it works but it's almost unreadable.
Not noticing any change in fonts so far
"All Settings" Won't Launch. Ouch!
Umm, System Locked up hard
Tried sliding keyboard and heard sound and title bars appreared but no luck, home and back not work either
It let me reboot with switch at least, not reset button
Tried Unticking "Disable Skin" in RealVGA
Reboot
"All Settings" Still Borked
reboot
Start Menu -> settings locks up too *cry*
Reboot!
Maybe result of font settings in ACT?
Might be time to do a restore =(
===============================================================
Config Fonts in Advanced config tool
UI ->
H Scroll Width: 19
V Scroll Width: 19
H Arrow Size: 20 (default)
V Arrow Size: 20 (default)
Icon Title Font Size: 10 (Was 16)
Menu Bar Font: Large
Popup Menu Font Size: Large
===============================================================
Reboot
RealVGA is nice but not sure it's worth this effort. Just too many problems.
Noticed graphics in TF3D are much slower and laggy now as well.
"All Settings" still borked Not sure what else to try at this point.
Good info on this subject is hard to come by. Most ppl seem to have good luck with this app.
Went to re-tick the skin option in RealVGA but it was still ticked. hmmm
What I think is needed is an app that could swap resolutions on the fly with a hotkey. ( Prolly not technically possible)
At least you could have normal usage and only use for certain apps that really benefit from it.
After another reboot the "Disable phone skin" is checked again. Guess it can't be unticked.
Un-ticked "No enlarge title Bar" in Diamond TF3D Config
I am able to open the "Programs" link from the start menu, wonder why settings is screwed.
Tried settings again, no joy, was able to use home key though this time. Not locked up.
Start menu does not work now though. Yikes, had to use reset this time.
Throws arms in the air!
Hard Reset =(
You are funny eidolen.
If you want copy the files I provided to your device (since you don't have a DS yet) and play with it.
You'll hard reset anyway when the SD arrives - LOL
Your also going to find at some point that the more and more tweaks and modifications you make,more problems will start sufacing. I was a rom flashing junkie like many on this forum for 2 years. Since I replaced my prior phone with the Fuze I am running just the stock rom without bloatware and a FEW select tweaks (includes radio change). It runs fast, works good and I dont have to soft reset it all the time.
Take a look at every custom rom, Im not putting any of them down, but after time the threads on them become 100 plus pages long, the number of other fixes to get them running right become impossible to keep track of. It becomes a daily job of just trying to keep that rom working without breaking some other feature or getting it to work right. They put out weekly fixes on most custom roms. They start out with the right intention, but it soon becomes just a bloated non oem rom after time.
Its addicting and fun, but at some point a person just wants to use the phone instead of hard resetting it all the time, flashing roms nightly and trying to figure out how to fix stuff in each rom.
I reached that point now and my fuze is outstanding without having to spend days tinkering with it. It is snappy, reponsive and ALL the software I have installed on it works, and the GPS works flawlessly even inside my house.
But again, your "hands on" approch as your doing now, is probaly the best way to learn
teh bestest
between these last few posts and my little chat with our neighbors PPC on there irc channel i am pretty confident i know what the deal is now, you guys have been a great help, i think im going to play a bit with some roms of course but eventually land on a bloat free standard rom with some added apps like putty and irc etc for sysadmin work, on that note yzf750 could u tell me exactally what u have running on yours sounds like its what im looking for.

I'm curious

My bad in advance if this question is off topic.
Lets you say you flashed the stock rom [why i don't know] or one of the roms hanging around here. The RUU goes to 100%, you set the screen, the time, you get a peek at the home screen (lookin pretty plain there) only to be told to wait 3 seconds. A couple things run get a little progress indicator and the thing reboots.
Now your home screen is looking different. Couple plugins enabled, others disabled. Been scouring XDA regarding this and only found scant references here or there about setting your thing up to install cabs off an SD card. I'm looking for something more in the neighborhood of having different plugins enabled, possibly settings too.
Anywho if you know of where I can get some reading in about this type of stuff, lemme know.
It's the built-in autorun. There are also many different third party alternatives. A few are in SuperJustKitchen v0.7.
Besides that, I'm trying to decide if this is offtopic or not... Technically it has to do with cooking....
ivanmmj said:
It's the built-in autorun. There are also many different third party alternatives. A few are in SuperJustKitchen v0.7.
Besides that, I'm trying to decide if this is offtopic or not... Technically it has to do with cooking....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hehe i'm walking a fine there...
I was wondering who were those guys and what are they doing in my kitchen? Autorun, check autorun, and run cc From what I gathered about those programs is that runcc is like autorun but newer. My guess in using them is setting up some sort of txt file and pointing runcc or autorun to it.
If so what can I put in that txt file, coz I know i can't write something like "uh... dood, I don't want titanium enabled, I want this one enabled with this setting and that setting ticked... and while you're at it can you fiddle with that one over there, and lets throw some cabs on there shall we? they're over here..... you're not done yet, now I want you to monkey with the settings like so... alright now get the hell out of my office!"
If I could I would...
Whatever information you can point me over to would be cool.
Thanks
Dr.Gonz0 said:
hehe i'm walking a fine there...
I was wondering who were those guys and what are they doing in my kitchen? Autorun, check autorun, and run cc From what I gathered about those programs is that runcc is like autorun but newer. My guess in using them is setting up some sort of txt file and pointing runcc or autorun to it.
If so what can I put in that txt file, coz I know i can't write something like "uh... dood, I don't want titanium enabled, I want this one enabled with this setting and that setting ticked... and while you're at it can you fiddle with that one over there, and lets throw some cabs on there shall we? they're over here..... you're not done yet, now I want you to monkey with the settings like so... alright now get the hell out of my office!"
If I could I would...
Whatever information you can point me over to would be cool.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
RunCC is meant as a replacement for Autorun. Autorun just requires a text file while RunCC requires a Lua that points to a text file.
There are a few walkthroughs but nothing concrete on how to create a good autorun file.
Some of the commands are:
The lock screen command (I forget what it is)
EXEC: (Execute the following)
CAB: (Install the following cab)
CPY1: (Copy from this)
CPY2: (Paste to this)
RST: (reset the phone)
In the older Autoruns, to set a theme you'd use:
EXE: along with a program that set the theme
In the newer Autoruns, you can just set it with:
TSK: \Windows\theme.tsk
Unfortunately, neither works with WM6.5.1 so you have to set the theme with an EXT with many files and registry keys.
There are a few other autorun apps that people in xda have made that can do more, like be able to run your own custom config from your SD card if you want every ROM to have certain things automatically configured (as long as all the ROMs support the particular auto-configuration utility you have configured for.)
To tell you the truth, I never bothered much with Autorun unless I had to replace a file that needed to be one version for the rom to load the first time and another after the first time set up was done. Realistically, you can do almost everything with a simple EXT package.
ivanmmj said:
Unfortunately, neither works with WM6.5.1 so you have to set the theme with an EXT with many files and registry keys.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Now ain't that a kick in the pants
ivanmmj said:
To tell you the truth, I never bothered much with Autorun unless I had to replace a file that needed to be one version for the rom to load the first time and another after the first time set up was done. Realistically, you can do almost everything with a simple EXT package
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was thinking the very same thing. Something's telling me that I need to try out that "Create Ext" button. Maybe throw whatever reg keys I want played with in that file? That would be more simpler than creating an auto run thingie. Hmmm... if that is the case I guess I would to just need to know how to tinker with my home screen and settings from the registry.
Dr.Gonz0 said:
Now ain't that a kick in the pants
I was thinking the very same thing. Something's telling me that I need to try out that "Create Ext" button. Maybe throw whatever reg keys I want played with in that file? That would be more simpler than creating an auto run thingie. Hmmm... if that is the case I guess I would to just need to know how to tinker with my home screen and settings from the registry.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The easiest way to learn is to take a CAB that does something you like and converting into a EXT and looking at the registry settings it creates.
ivanmmj said:
The easiest way to learn is to take a CAB that does something you like and converting into a EXT and looking at the registry settings it creates.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That definitely helps, as well as using a reg editor to find out what has been done after installing a program then exporting the key to throw in the app.reg file. The real fun part was tracking down basic settings for things like button settings, today items (and their settings), and default theme (boy was that a blast!) Thanks again for clearing up the confusion

Categories

Resources