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Hi,
When using the Polaris with standard Dutch ROM in a Renault Laguna with built-in carkit system, the sound is very crappy. The paring goes fine, but the sound in the car is crap. Moreover, the other side cannot even hear my voice at all. I apllied the 2 hotfixes from HTC e-club, but that didn't help. Is it possible to change the bluetooth stack from MS to Widcomm or something, or is there any other solution?
Any help is surely appreciated!
Wouter
I had the same problem with my Mondeo (2008). I changed rom to WWE 6.1 (PdaViet V23 - at this moment) and problems disappeared. Perfect reception (both ways) and also all contacts visble through car touch screen..
Thanks a lot for your reply. Good to know that that's an option. I'll keep it in mind. However, I'm kind of hoping for a solution that doesn't require using another ROM, for warranty reasons...
The problem was finally solved by a software update on the car, done by the local renault dealer.
Hello,
I have a Becker PNA Traffic Assist Z 200 that offers a BT hands free function.
With my Nokia 6300 and 5500 all works find but not with the S710.
The connection is established and the telephone book unsuccessful transmit to the Z200.
But if I call somewhere or get a call the caller can't here me. On the Z200 the quality is also really bad like crosstalk.
Is there any possibility to get the issue under control?
I tested it with the original HTC ROM, Dr. Martin Gonzo 6.1 and now I run the NEO ROM for Vox v0.9.
With all ROMs the same problem.
I do not think the MS BT stack allows this functionality. I have been using the JETWare extension to increase the feature set of the stack. It might allow what you are asking, they have a 30 day free trial so you can see if will work without purchasing.
If it works, send me a PM.
Thanks for the tip, only to clarify
- The connection are established successfully
- The phone book are successfully transfered to the Z200
Dialing are working as expected "only" the voice quality on my site is bad and my voice are not forwarded to the call partner.
I have also tested with JETware but still the same.
With other hands free units all works good, like the Parrot 3200 LS.
I have the same problem using the HTC S710 together with a Becker Z200. Quality of the peer voice is miserable. My voice is not audible to the peer.
Did you solve the problem?
Is this a Z200 problem or a HTC S710 problem?
Thanks for any information.
Tasos
I have to assume that it's a problem with the Becker. I have used my S710 with both a Garmin and a TomTom device without any issues. On both, the phone book is transferred and the voice quality on a call is fine.
To date I tried and failed with:
-- The original S710 (with and without the latest device software upgrade)
-- A T-Mobile MDA Vario III (here I had also issues with pairing)
-- An HTC Touch Diamond
In contrast I tried and succeeded achieving good quality connections to the Z200 with:
-- A Nokia 5300
-- A Blackberry
On the German pocketnavigation.de forum, posters claim successful pairing and good voice quality with some Sony/Ericsson and Motorola mobile phones.
I thought I let you know.
This issue is still present in Becker Z203 (and probably Z201, Z202, Z204)
My old WM2003SE bases smartphone worked fine, but with my WM6.5.3 smartphone, I only get distorted audio.
It seems that it is related to missing A2DP support in Z20x devices.
Does any have a Widcomm or Broadcom Bluetooth stack for the HTC Touch Pro? Has anyone been successful in using a Widcomm or Broadcom stack on the Touch Pro? The M$ one is insufficient/too difficult to work with for my current needs.
What are your current needs? The stack on the TP is massively improved.
bluetooth needs
I am working on an under cover voice recognition driven data collection program. it uses a nuance voice recognition engine. I need to use a bluetooth headset for audio in and audio out. We are writing it in native c++. now that we have a Touch Pro we finally have a phone with a fast enough processor and enough ram to handle the app, but we are having some difficulty tapping into the ms stack and thought that working with a Broadcom stack might be easier. the app works great with a wired headset but we need a bluetooth one to be more inconspicuous.
Interesting app... I take it you're not planning on a general commercial implementation since having to include a new bt stack would make it less marketable. I'm not aware of any Widcomm development on this device but I'm somewhat new to it myself and not fully up to speed on what's going on in terms of development efforts yet.
will this work with the vogue?
BT Stack upgrade or mod needed.
Please don;t flame me for responding to an older post, but I need help. I have a HTC TP with Verizon with
Long story short, I purchased 2 (Not at the same time) Pioneer GPS units: AVIC F500BT (Later sold it due to this inconvenient problem) and currently have a AVIC X910BT. The problem I had with the older unit (500BT) is that when my phone establishes connection for the 1st tie to the unit, it reboots it. the phone stays on all the while and BT is enabled. After the unit reboots and re-pairs with the phone, it reboots again until the BT is disabled on the phone. Since this happened, I sold the F500BT and purchased a newer, with more features model with a different firmware. However, I'm experiencing the exact same problem. I tried the native WM 6.1 Verizon ROM and 3 different 6.5 ROMS which have the same effect on the unit.
Ok, with that being said, I've been told to come here for a BT Stack for my phone that is compatible with the unit. The Units run WinCE.
Please help...
I've noticed these similar (and likely related) bugs in a lot of places and have been living with them for six months, but I have never seen a fix. Surely there are others with this issue that might be able to fix it.
Issue #1: When you connect a Bluetooth stereo headset to a Windows Mobile device, using the Wireless Stereo AND Hands Free profiles, the wireless stereo feature works fine, but when attempting to answer a call, hands free fails. The hands free icon shows on the Phone screen, no audio is heard, and after a few seconds the headset shuts off and the icon goes away.
Issue #2: When you connect a Bluetooth stereo headset to a Windows Mobile device using the Wireless Stereo profile and are watching video in Windows Media Player, if a call comes in, the program device.exe crashes and Windows Media Player will often need to be restarted. Device.exe will often crash at other times as well.
I have seen numerous reports of this problem, and near universal reports of it on the Dell BH200 Bluetooth Stereo Headphones. It seems to require A2DP, and be very common among HTC devices. I have had the same problem on the AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) and AT&T Fuze (Touch Pro/Rafael) under Windows Mobile 6. I can confirm the headset works as it is supposed to on Palm OS (Palm Centro) in headset mode, and that it was also able to work as a headset on the T-Mobile MDA (Wizard) running Windows Mobile 5 (which does not support A2DP).
In all cases, I am talking about devices using stock ROMs.
If you have seen the problem, please list the device, OS, and bluetooth device used. If you have a bluetooth stereo headset that does not exhibit the issue on devices that are known to have this problem, list that as well, so owners of devices with this issue can consider alternative headsets.
If you have any technical knowledge of what causes the issue, please share it. If you have heard of any workarounds, please share it.
Thank you all.
I have the Samsung i-640 running WM6 and have the same issue with The Dell BH200 not doin Hands free mode and the whole shut down of device happens too ..very Frustrating .
I tried using the Nokia BH 100 which does only Mono [Hands Free] and i get $hit loads of static noise but the Device doesnt Shutdown.
Heya, I have the AT&T Fuze and I also own the BH200. I have the same exact issue you have (issue #1). I have no idea why it does this but I've been trying to get support from dell for the longest time with no luck.
I think the problem lies in the MS BT stack. It does an automatic pin guessing thing which might cause the bh200 to not work properly. I have tested the fuze on the BT2020 (by Jabra) and it works perfectly. I just recently bought the moto s9 (still waiting for it to arrive) but I would prefer to use the dell bh200 if possible.
Check my sig for the information you're looking for.
Dell sends you to PC support when you try to get support on the device, since it's usually sold as an accessory with computers, but they refuse to offer actual support on the actual device, as though they knew nothing about it or how it works. I asked them if it was a rebranded version of another company's headset, and they wouldn't say.
I tried to get help from dell already, and they're as much help with it as telemarketers...
Similar problem
Maybe this is a stereo headset bug...
Maybe this is designed behavior, but it is typical of why people HAVE to hack the crap out of WM to be happy with it:
I have a ATT Tilt.
Behavior same under WM6 and WM6.1
I have a Jabra BT610s (stereo headphone with A2DP, AVRCP, handsfree, & wireless stereo profiles).
If the Tilt is paired with both wireless stereo & hands-free, then even if Win Media is running or playing, the hands-free profile is selected when powering on the headphones. Then, the stupid ATT Bluetooth settings are so buried that it requires about 30 secs of sylus picking, poking, and prodding to get it set to wireless stereo.
Is there a way to set the Tilt to default to wireless stereo, is there a helper app for quick-switching this?
Also, there are not infrequent dropouts in audio over bluetooth, even with the phone setting on the desk 24" away from the headphones as I type this.
All the remote control features DO work with this setup, but unfortunately there's no remote control function for profile switching.
Thanks,
I am using a stock ROM and I don't have the above problems. I am using a motorolla hb820 headset. I also use an LG Style i headset, and no problems either. I use Core Player and it plays fine even after a call. I only use WMP to play music and my X7510 haven't froze yet while playing music when a call comes in.
Hi
I am using Lg KE590 but I am not using the device so I have not gone through the problem. Is it for all the handset ?
John
Don Joao Resort
I have several configurations with problems to report below:
1) HTC P3600i (WM6 stock ROM) + Dell BH200 => issue #1 (never try issue #2)
2) HTC P3600i (WM6 stock ROM) + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
3) Dopod S300 (WM5 stock ROM) + Dell BH200 => stereo music & phone call works but music switch back to the phone after end of a call
4) Dopod S300 (WM5 stock ROM) + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
5) Nokia 5610 Xpress Music + Dell BH200 => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
6) Nokia 5610 Xpress Music + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
Summary: I tend to believe that the problem is specific to Dell BH200 and some of HTC's or WM OS combination as Dell BH200 works fine with Nokia phones and Dopod BT headphones always work with any phones we have.
Reporting in, Im using Motorola S305 Stereo BT. No above issues whatsoever with 2 devices HTC Kaiser and Touch Pro. Both with stock or cooked ROM. I have a strong feeling its related to hardware prob on Dell BH200.
I have a touch pro that refuse to play nice with my AVIC-D3 head unit...I must pick either headset profile or wireless stereo profile, but not both. I remember coming across a solution called a2dptoggle. It let you switch between the 2 easily (in wm agenda page), but try it out to see if that's a solution or not.
Issue #1 using HTC Touch Pro and Dell BH200
Because of that issue i can't use the hands free function at all.
Only way i can use my headset is:
If i uncheck Hands free from partnership settings, then an incoming call mutes headset, i take out the phone have my conversation manually, after hangup the music plays on.
Whenever I sync my Touch Cruise in the car (BMW) the interface lags! For example pressing the phone button on the steering wheel takes forever to pull up the phone menu on the car display. Also during a call if I press the hang up button on the steering wheel, it doesn't hang up right away. I have to keep pressing it multiple times. The actual sound quality through the car speakers is fine and the pairing is very quick so no problems there.
Is this a specific problem between the car and the phone? The car handles other bluetooth phones very well, such as the ahem..iPhone. The response when hitting the steering wheel buttons is instantaneous.
I currently have udk Syrius R8 Beta2 with radio 1.59.46.12. I read in one of the other forums on xda that it has something to do with TouchFLO. I disabled the Manila TouchFLO, turned off S2U2, still no luck. Any ideas?
I have similar problems with my XDA Orbit2 with WM6.1 and with my Ignito/Diamond with WM6.1 both with my Peugeot car BT and with Motorola BT headset.
An incoming call sometimes takes 10secs for the audio to be re-routed, PITA
I also found that if I'm running Navigon 6 and an incoming call gets picked up by the car BT then Navigon (or any other GPS app like GPSCycleComputer) gets screwed, the internal GPS gets disconnected.
I'm suspicious that the problem is due to the on chip BT and GPS.
My XDA Orbit (1) with WM6.0 doesn't have the same problem but of course it also has a seperate SirfstarIII GPS.
So, who knows, it could be WM6.1 or it could be the Qualcomm integrated chipset?
I'd like to re-install the original Orbit2 WM6.0 to see if that makes a difference but that's not completely simple as there is no full (official) O2 WM6 file available (AFAIK)
Yeah it's pretty annoying. I assume the udk ROM that I have has all the bluetooth patches, etc. I know other phones don't have this issue, so I'm hesitant to say it's the BMW bluetooth firmware. Something is laggy about the device when paired. I must say though I've never tried pairing it to a BT headset so I wonder what that will be like.
No one else having bluetooth performance issues with their car's built in Bluetooth system?
I have carkit trouble, but don't know why.
My problem is as followed:
I Drive a Renault Scenic with a Carminat Navigation System including Bluetooth Carkit
When I connect my HTC TC Everybody complains that quality is poor. Reception is louzy etc.
When I connect my HTC TD2 the problem dowsn't exist.
When I connect my Samsung Omnia the problem doens't exist ( but other problems in the phone appear)
When I connect my Nokia N73 with the current software I have a lot of problems ( even other then with the HTC )
When I connect my Nokia N73 with an old version of the software I have no problems...
All phones run the stock ROMS ( Windows Mobile 6.1 Pro ) / original Software. I first thought It might be a carkit problem, but as some phones work and others don't I tent to believe that it is a ROM problem (Maybe radio not good)
Is it possible to update the bluetooth driver / firmware?
Problem with HTC TC could be in radio driver.
But since there are problems with other devices, it could be problem with Carminat. You should check with Renault is there software update for it.
But first check if those phones are on Carminat's compatibility list...
The strange thing is that I have the problem with the nokia N73 when the software of the phone is higher then 2.69
According to Renault all Windows Mobile devices are supported / compatible.
I think it is the BT driver or Firmware. But don't know if it is possible to upgrade this to a newer version. Or to test this?
Yes,
My Parrot Mki 9100 works perfectly for phone calls, but doesn't play GPS navigation audio instructions.
Anyone know waht is wrong?
speedyb said:
The strange thing is that I have the problem with the nokia N73 when the software of the phone is higher then 2.69
According to Renault all Windows Mobile devices are supported / compatible.
I think it is the BT driver or Firmware. But don't know if it is possible to upgrade this to a newer version. Or to test this?
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Have an appointment at the car deakership on Tuesday to see if there is an update or quickfix...
I still suspect the TC though
BT, GPS and GSM are controlled by radio driver.
Please check version, since even stock ROMs use different drivers.
So far, my version is flawless...
Polaris WM 6.1 WWE official (3.13.405.0 WWE 2008-08-21; Radio 1.59.42.15; Protocol 25.85.30.07H)
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This is the same version I am using....
hi,
I have have quite some problems with BT connection with same radio driver see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=570153
I sent it for fixing to the dealer.
Hope a solution.
Went to the car dealer today. They updated the software and modified the microphone volume (lowered it) and the sound quality is improved.
At the car dealer they told me that they have a lot of issues with HTC phones in combination with the different carkits, although the newer phones have less problems. There is a new software upcoming before the end of the year which should solve more problems. but for now the problem is less....
I figured out why (but not the underlying cause) of the sluggishness when the phone is paired to the car. My phone shows very high CPU usage (90%) with services.exe when I look in task manager when the phone is paired. I noticed that using the actual device is sluggish, even just typing up a text. I don't know why that is. The moment I turned off bluetooth, it was back to normal.
Any idea what could be causing that?
Maybe radio driver...
I had such problem when I was on WM 6.0, but it was caused by failing radio chip...