Does any have a Widcomm or Broadcom Bluetooth stack for the HTC Touch Pro? Has anyone been successful in using a Widcomm or Broadcom stack on the Touch Pro? The M$ one is insufficient/too difficult to work with for my current needs.
What are your current needs? The stack on the TP is massively improved.
bluetooth needs
I am working on an under cover voice recognition driven data collection program. it uses a nuance voice recognition engine. I need to use a bluetooth headset for audio in and audio out. We are writing it in native c++. now that we have a Touch Pro we finally have a phone with a fast enough processor and enough ram to handle the app, but we are having some difficulty tapping into the ms stack and thought that working with a Broadcom stack might be easier. the app works great with a wired headset but we need a bluetooth one to be more inconspicuous.
Interesting app... I take it you're not planning on a general commercial implementation since having to include a new bt stack would make it less marketable. I'm not aware of any Widcomm development on this device but I'm somewhat new to it myself and not fully up to speed on what's going on in terms of development efforts yet.
will this work with the vogue?
BT Stack upgrade or mod needed.
Please don;t flame me for responding to an older post, but I need help. I have a HTC TP with Verizon with
Long story short, I purchased 2 (Not at the same time) Pioneer GPS units: AVIC F500BT (Later sold it due to this inconvenient problem) and currently have a AVIC X910BT. The problem I had with the older unit (500BT) is that when my phone establishes connection for the 1st tie to the unit, it reboots it. the phone stays on all the while and BT is enabled. After the unit reboots and re-pairs with the phone, it reboots again until the BT is disabled on the phone. Since this happened, I sold the F500BT and purchased a newer, with more features model with a different firmware. However, I'm experiencing the exact same problem. I tried the native WM 6.1 Verizon ROM and 3 different 6.5 ROMS which have the same effect on the unit.
Ok, with that being said, I've been told to come here for a BT Stack for my phone that is compatible with the unit. The Units run WinCE.
Please help...
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Hello,
Bt MS stack is apparently not compatible with all BT headset, hands free en car kit devices. I have been trying to pair my pocketphone pda with a pioneer car kit without a successful result, the image of the hands free appears on the BT manager ‘as pioneer BT unit’, but the standard pin code 0000 or 1111 is always rejected.
Pioneer technical service couldn’t help, they say normally it should work with almost all BT headset devices and a compatibility list of the product is not available.
I guess the problem lays on the BT package. Is there a way to solve this issue by creating for example a BT compatibility patch, or changing something in the registry to make it compatible. Widcomm stack is better en compatible than the MS stack according to many users. Does anybody have any clue?
My device is upgraded to WM6 with always the same sad result.
Thanks
Hi, I have a pioneer bluetooth stereo in my car too, Found it a bit difficult to get paired at first, but it eventually worked. Although it would not give me the hands free profile, only the headset profile, which means I have to initiate and anwer the calls from the phone :-(
thinking about looking at the widcomm stack if I can get it running on WM6
For your information, I have tried the widcomm om my device ‘the last version’, but when I click on the bt icon in today screen, the blue led start flashing for a while but stops with “ memory storage error” . There are some bugs which should be corrected or some registry hack to get it work. However, the widcomm is far much better and stable than the MS BT stack ‘this later sucks’.
Apparently, you have a built-in bt unit, I have a pioneer 6800 + BT unit device optional, it worked perfectly with my old qtek 9090 as a hands-free and an BT audio device without any problem.
My touch pro seems to have real bluetooth issues with my JVC KD-NX5000 stereo system. My kaiser worked flawlessly with it but with the touch pro it wont pair at times and when it does it wont let me use any of the many functions that the stereo offers (voice dialing, downloaded phonebook, etc) I assume this is a problem with the ms bluetooth stack and was wondering how tough of a job it would be to switch to a broadcomm stack or if anyone has thought about making a custom rom with the broadcomm stack. Just curious if Im the only one with issues with wm 6.1 and bluetooth.
i have the same problem with my diamnd anbd jvc car audio
Slightly OT rant:-
I had the opposite problem with pioneer + broadcom...
Pioneer only looks for handsets which identify themselves as phone or smartphone, and my device identified itself as a pda.
I actually told pioneer about the problem, and rather than forwarding on to the developers, I got a stock reply:-
"This phone is not on our compatibility list" (so we don't care)
So I went and got an MS based phone (you can change it to smartphone with a regedit).
Never buying pioneer again...
- Anthony
Similiar issue with my opel carkit.
Tried to make the broadcom stack working, but got a memory error when opening its blue tooth manager.
After uninstalling, bluetooth didn't work at all anymore, needed to perform a hard reset.
Has anyone successfully installed the broadcom BT stack on the touchpro/raphael?
I found that my Touch Pro would pair and then drop out when connecting to my Kenwood DDX5032 car stereo bluetooth adaptor. I couldn't dial from the Kenwood kit, couldn't use A2DP (wouldn't even connect), and really couldn't use any Headset Profile functions at all.
I persisted with pairing and unpairing in different ways (you can initiate the pairing from the Kenwood itself rather than the phone), but nothing really worked.
Then trinode's post about changing a registry setting sent me down that track and now everything is working fine
I found the relevant setting from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290871, which is [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\sys\COD], and then changed the HTC TP default value of '5898764' (decimal), to the value from my old Dopod838Pro, which was '5374228' (in decimal).
I didn't even need to repair the Kewood to the HTC TP - it just worked straight away, as if it said "Oh, sorry, did you want me to work? I thought you wanted me to be in 'stupid' mode! My bad - everything will work now."
So all good, and thanks to trinode for pointing me in the right direction.
Codenix.
After hard-resetting my Touch Pro to fix another separate issue, now this problem has come back and this time changing the COD value hasn't fixed it. It would appear my previous post may have attributed my success to the wrong thing
The search for the answer continues!
I found a firmware update for my Kenwood's bluetooth adaptor which fixed the problem. I don't know why it ever worked at all before this update, but there you go!
I'll create a separate thread to share this with others in case anyone else out there has a Kenwood bluetooth kit and a Touch Pro or a Diamond.
Thanks.
The thread I created re the Kenwood is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2835805
@ Trinode
Pioneer sent my unit back, but never told me that my phone was not supported. Where did you flag the smartphone in the registry? Did it fix the BT connection/unti reboot issue? I had a AVIC F500BT (sold it) now have a AVIC X910BT same issue as the 500 had.
@ Trinode. I found the hack , tried it, but it still doesn't resolve my issue. Are there any other mods out there for the BT Stack prob?
I've noticed these similar (and likely related) bugs in a lot of places and have been living with them for six months, but I have never seen a fix. Surely there are others with this issue that might be able to fix it.
Issue #1: When you connect a Bluetooth stereo headset to a Windows Mobile device, using the Wireless Stereo AND Hands Free profiles, the wireless stereo feature works fine, but when attempting to answer a call, hands free fails. The hands free icon shows on the Phone screen, no audio is heard, and after a few seconds the headset shuts off and the icon goes away.
Issue #2: When you connect a Bluetooth stereo headset to a Windows Mobile device using the Wireless Stereo profile and are watching video in Windows Media Player, if a call comes in, the program device.exe crashes and Windows Media Player will often need to be restarted. Device.exe will often crash at other times as well.
I have seen numerous reports of this problem, and near universal reports of it on the Dell BH200 Bluetooth Stereo Headphones. It seems to require A2DP, and be very common among HTC devices. I have had the same problem on the AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) and AT&T Fuze (Touch Pro/Rafael) under Windows Mobile 6. I can confirm the headset works as it is supposed to on Palm OS (Palm Centro) in headset mode, and that it was also able to work as a headset on the T-Mobile MDA (Wizard) running Windows Mobile 5 (which does not support A2DP).
In all cases, I am talking about devices using stock ROMs.
If you have seen the problem, please list the device, OS, and bluetooth device used. If you have a bluetooth stereo headset that does not exhibit the issue on devices that are known to have this problem, list that as well, so owners of devices with this issue can consider alternative headsets.
If you have any technical knowledge of what causes the issue, please share it. If you have heard of any workarounds, please share it.
Thank you all.
I have the Samsung i-640 running WM6 and have the same issue with The Dell BH200 not doin Hands free mode and the whole shut down of device happens too ..very Frustrating .
I tried using the Nokia BH 100 which does only Mono [Hands Free] and i get $hit loads of static noise but the Device doesnt Shutdown.
Heya, I have the AT&T Fuze and I also own the BH200. I have the same exact issue you have (issue #1). I have no idea why it does this but I've been trying to get support from dell for the longest time with no luck.
I think the problem lies in the MS BT stack. It does an automatic pin guessing thing which might cause the bh200 to not work properly. I have tested the fuze on the BT2020 (by Jabra) and it works perfectly. I just recently bought the moto s9 (still waiting for it to arrive) but I would prefer to use the dell bh200 if possible.
Check my sig for the information you're looking for.
Dell sends you to PC support when you try to get support on the device, since it's usually sold as an accessory with computers, but they refuse to offer actual support on the actual device, as though they knew nothing about it or how it works. I asked them if it was a rebranded version of another company's headset, and they wouldn't say.
I tried to get help from dell already, and they're as much help with it as telemarketers...
Similar problem
Maybe this is a stereo headset bug...
Maybe this is designed behavior, but it is typical of why people HAVE to hack the crap out of WM to be happy with it:
I have a ATT Tilt.
Behavior same under WM6 and WM6.1
I have a Jabra BT610s (stereo headphone with A2DP, AVRCP, handsfree, & wireless stereo profiles).
If the Tilt is paired with both wireless stereo & hands-free, then even if Win Media is running or playing, the hands-free profile is selected when powering on the headphones. Then, the stupid ATT Bluetooth settings are so buried that it requires about 30 secs of sylus picking, poking, and prodding to get it set to wireless stereo.
Is there a way to set the Tilt to default to wireless stereo, is there a helper app for quick-switching this?
Also, there are not infrequent dropouts in audio over bluetooth, even with the phone setting on the desk 24" away from the headphones as I type this.
All the remote control features DO work with this setup, but unfortunately there's no remote control function for profile switching.
Thanks,
I am using a stock ROM and I don't have the above problems. I am using a motorolla hb820 headset. I also use an LG Style i headset, and no problems either. I use Core Player and it plays fine even after a call. I only use WMP to play music and my X7510 haven't froze yet while playing music when a call comes in.
Hi
I am using Lg KE590 but I am not using the device so I have not gone through the problem. Is it for all the handset ?
John
Don Joao Resort
I have several configurations with problems to report below:
1) HTC P3600i (WM6 stock ROM) + Dell BH200 => issue #1 (never try issue #2)
2) HTC P3600i (WM6 stock ROM) + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
3) Dopod S300 (WM5 stock ROM) + Dell BH200 => stereo music & phone call works but music switch back to the phone after end of a call
4) Dopod S300 (WM5 stock ROM) + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
5) Nokia 5610 Xpress Music + Dell BH200 => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
6) Nokia 5610 Xpress Music + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
Summary: I tend to believe that the problem is specific to Dell BH200 and some of HTC's or WM OS combination as Dell BH200 works fine with Nokia phones and Dopod BT headphones always work with any phones we have.
Reporting in, Im using Motorola S305 Stereo BT. No above issues whatsoever with 2 devices HTC Kaiser and Touch Pro. Both with stock or cooked ROM. I have a strong feeling its related to hardware prob on Dell BH200.
I have a touch pro that refuse to play nice with my AVIC-D3 head unit...I must pick either headset profile or wireless stereo profile, but not both. I remember coming across a solution called a2dptoggle. It let you switch between the 2 easily (in wm agenda page), but try it out to see if that's a solution or not.
Issue #1 using HTC Touch Pro and Dell BH200
Because of that issue i can't use the hands free function at all.
Only way i can use my headset is:
If i uncheck Hands free from partnership settings, then an incoming call mutes headset, i take out the phone have my conversation manually, after hangup the music plays on.
Aim: To connect my HTC Touch to my laptop and to seamlessly use it as a headset for talking on Skype - i.e. use the cellphone microphone for input and the cellphone speaker for audio output.
Note: I know that there are bluetooth headset per se that may be paired with a PC, but I would like to know how to use my existing phone with this and understand whether this is technologically possible.
I am both interested in opportunities of bluetooth or wi-fi methods for connecting. In addition, you may supply info for software or hardware tools, but software fine tuning is preferred.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
As far as I can clarify I want to use my mobile:
a) as a bluetooth connected headset
and
b) as a bluetooth connected microphone
Are those implemented in the bluetooth profiles which are running on my mobile phone? (or on any other phone).
In general it would be possible based on technology, hence there are bluetooth headsets with integrated microphones. But are the needed profile extensions on the bluetooth protocols implemented by the mobile phone vendors such as HTC?
In other words, is the protocol stack extended by the chip vendor of the bluetooth chip inside the HTC - probably not HTC itself? And is the protocol stack implemented into the operating system - Microsoft mobile 6.1 by either HTC or Microsoft?
i'd like this on my kaiser too..
just looking around still.
Whenever I sync my Touch Cruise in the car (BMW) the interface lags! For example pressing the phone button on the steering wheel takes forever to pull up the phone menu on the car display. Also during a call if I press the hang up button on the steering wheel, it doesn't hang up right away. I have to keep pressing it multiple times. The actual sound quality through the car speakers is fine and the pairing is very quick so no problems there.
Is this a specific problem between the car and the phone? The car handles other bluetooth phones very well, such as the ahem..iPhone. The response when hitting the steering wheel buttons is instantaneous.
I currently have udk Syrius R8 Beta2 with radio 1.59.46.12. I read in one of the other forums on xda that it has something to do with TouchFLO. I disabled the Manila TouchFLO, turned off S2U2, still no luck. Any ideas?
I have similar problems with my XDA Orbit2 with WM6.1 and with my Ignito/Diamond with WM6.1 both with my Peugeot car BT and with Motorola BT headset.
An incoming call sometimes takes 10secs for the audio to be re-routed, PITA
I also found that if I'm running Navigon 6 and an incoming call gets picked up by the car BT then Navigon (or any other GPS app like GPSCycleComputer) gets screwed, the internal GPS gets disconnected.
I'm suspicious that the problem is due to the on chip BT and GPS.
My XDA Orbit (1) with WM6.0 doesn't have the same problem but of course it also has a seperate SirfstarIII GPS.
So, who knows, it could be WM6.1 or it could be the Qualcomm integrated chipset?
I'd like to re-install the original Orbit2 WM6.0 to see if that makes a difference but that's not completely simple as there is no full (official) O2 WM6 file available (AFAIK)
Yeah it's pretty annoying. I assume the udk ROM that I have has all the bluetooth patches, etc. I know other phones don't have this issue, so I'm hesitant to say it's the BMW bluetooth firmware. Something is laggy about the device when paired. I must say though I've never tried pairing it to a BT headset so I wonder what that will be like.
No one else having bluetooth performance issues with their car's built in Bluetooth system?
I have carkit trouble, but don't know why.
My problem is as followed:
I Drive a Renault Scenic with a Carminat Navigation System including Bluetooth Carkit
When I connect my HTC TC Everybody complains that quality is poor. Reception is louzy etc.
When I connect my HTC TD2 the problem dowsn't exist.
When I connect my Samsung Omnia the problem doens't exist ( but other problems in the phone appear)
When I connect my Nokia N73 with the current software I have a lot of problems ( even other then with the HTC )
When I connect my Nokia N73 with an old version of the software I have no problems...
All phones run the stock ROMS ( Windows Mobile 6.1 Pro ) / original Software. I first thought It might be a carkit problem, but as some phones work and others don't I tent to believe that it is a ROM problem (Maybe radio not good)
Is it possible to update the bluetooth driver / firmware?
Problem with HTC TC could be in radio driver.
But since there are problems with other devices, it could be problem with Carminat. You should check with Renault is there software update for it.
But first check if those phones are on Carminat's compatibility list...
The strange thing is that I have the problem with the nokia N73 when the software of the phone is higher then 2.69
According to Renault all Windows Mobile devices are supported / compatible.
I think it is the BT driver or Firmware. But don't know if it is possible to upgrade this to a newer version. Or to test this?
Yes,
My Parrot Mki 9100 works perfectly for phone calls, but doesn't play GPS navigation audio instructions.
Anyone know waht is wrong?
speedyb said:
The strange thing is that I have the problem with the nokia N73 when the software of the phone is higher then 2.69
According to Renault all Windows Mobile devices are supported / compatible.
I think it is the BT driver or Firmware. But don't know if it is possible to upgrade this to a newer version. Or to test this?
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Have an appointment at the car deakership on Tuesday to see if there is an update or quickfix...
I still suspect the TC though
BT, GPS and GSM are controlled by radio driver.
Please check version, since even stock ROMs use different drivers.
So far, my version is flawless...
Polaris WM 6.1 WWE official (3.13.405.0 WWE 2008-08-21; Radio 1.59.42.15; Protocol 25.85.30.07H)
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This is the same version I am using....
hi,
I have have quite some problems with BT connection with same radio driver see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=570153
I sent it for fixing to the dealer.
Hope a solution.
Went to the car dealer today. They updated the software and modified the microphone volume (lowered it) and the sound quality is improved.
At the car dealer they told me that they have a lot of issues with HTC phones in combination with the different carkits, although the newer phones have less problems. There is a new software upcoming before the end of the year which should solve more problems. but for now the problem is less....
I figured out why (but not the underlying cause) of the sluggishness when the phone is paired to the car. My phone shows very high CPU usage (90%) with services.exe when I look in task manager when the phone is paired. I noticed that using the actual device is sluggish, even just typing up a text. I don't know why that is. The moment I turned off bluetooth, it was back to normal.
Any idea what could be causing that?
Maybe radio driver...
I had such problem when I was on WM 6.0, but it was caused by failing radio chip...