Aim: To connect my HTC Touch to my laptop and to seamlessly use it as a headset for talking on Skype - i.e. use the cellphone microphone for input and the cellphone speaker for audio output.
Note: I know that there are bluetooth headset per se that may be paired with a PC, but I would like to know how to use my existing phone with this and understand whether this is technologically possible.
I am both interested in opportunities of bluetooth or wi-fi methods for connecting. In addition, you may supply info for software or hardware tools, but software fine tuning is preferred.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
As far as I can clarify I want to use my mobile:
a) as a bluetooth connected headset
and
b) as a bluetooth connected microphone
Are those implemented in the bluetooth profiles which are running on my mobile phone? (or on any other phone).
In general it would be possible based on technology, hence there are bluetooth headsets with integrated microphones. But are the needed profile extensions on the bluetooth protocols implemented by the mobile phone vendors such as HTC?
In other words, is the protocol stack extended by the chip vendor of the bluetooth chip inside the HTC - probably not HTC itself? And is the protocol stack implemented into the operating system - Microsoft mobile 6.1 by either HTC or Microsoft?
i'd like this on my kaiser too..
just looking around still.
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first off, major props to the xda community, you guys are the best!
now for an interesting problem/project:
It's been a month since I've purchased my Motorola S9 bluetooth headphones http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=177 and have been amazed by what I can do when combine the S9 with my HTC touch and cyberon's voice dialer which is a voice activation program
I use it to:
listen to stereo music
launch programs
stereo music remote control
speed dial
raise and lower volume
teach iphone users the meaning of envy
just being able to do that with with the a2dp remote and microphone of the s9 makes it feel like it's 2030 where people are wired to computers and technology is transparent and everywhere. The s9 feels like sci fi technology... almost. the s9+htc touch is a great no hassle way of getting the information you want pumped into your ears
so as a tech enthusiast I've asked myself,
why the hell can't my computer do this?? i mean, it's 2008 and I'm still using a keyboard and mouse for everything?
I'm trying to make the S9's work on my mac book pro running windows xp+bootcamp drivers but windows doesn't even support a2dp much less handsfree wireless mic profile
i've an online tutorial by katy hxxp: www.djkaty.com/drupal/vista/bluetootha2dp but installing broadcomm's bluetooth stack gives me an error telling me that there is no bluetooth radio device detected which is total bull as i've been able to send files to my HTC touch via bluetooth. I've also tried installing another bluetooth replacement stack called bluesoleil; with no luck
I've also am about to start trying adding widcomm using this guide (http://www.dev-toast.com/2007/01/05/uncrippling-bluetooth-in-vista-rtm)
but in the guide said a2dp doesn't work with widcomm
anyways how do i make bluetooth a2dp work and my s9's mic to work via bluetooth on pc? is my ultimate question
also, if you could recomend a voice activation program that works as well as cyberon's voice dialer I'm looking for the type of functionality where I can press the voice button issue a command and then good stuff happens I bet lots of other people thought of doing the same thing like this
could you please help?
A step by step guide would be aprechiated
update: I've been able to install widcomm drivers version 5.1 and everything works... except the a2dp UGH!
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I've also tried installing another bluetooth replacement stack called bluesoleil; with no luck
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BlueSoleil, with some external BT dongles, does support A2DP. It's just that the BT dongle itself must support it in hardware.
That is, shop for an external BT dongle if you do need A2DP.
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BlueSoleil, with some external BT dongles, does support A2DP. It's just that the BT dongle itself must support it in hardware.
That is, shop for an external BT dongle if you do need A2DP.
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thanx but i'm trying to get my internal laptop's bluetooth to use it I've heard good reports that i'm just using the wrong version of widcomm drivers.... time to reinstall everything...again
besides who wants to carry around a laptop with a dongle flopping around? i'll try to avoid the dongle solution if i can
A2DP and bluetooth stack
Having same issues here. My goal is using BOTH A2dp and Blackberry wireless sync via bluetooth (just a serial port).
I find it impossible as Blackberry will only work with native xp drivers and A2DP is not supported in xp.
Currently i gave up wireless sync and am using A2DP with Bluesoleil, which works fine for me.
Anyone ever tried using A2DP WITHOUT switching to a different bluetooth stack?
Hey guys-
I'm running My Mobiler to output the display, and control my phone (Tilt/Kaiser/TytnII/8925) via my PC (XP sp2).
When I receive a call, My Mobiler allows me to accept/reject/sms etc through my pc (really through my phone dialer but I'm using my keyboard and mouse), but when I want to accept the call, and talk to my caller, I'm having to pickup the phone, and resort to what I'll call 'untethered' phone use (i.e., phone to ear/BT headset).
What I'd like to do (and hopefully where you guys can help me out) is to use some method or software to relay the call through my PC (and use my pc's built in speakers & mic). Bonus if the method leverages something I'm already running (ActiveSync/My Mobiler).
Additional info:
BT is an option, but it's Toshiba stack, which from my researching doesn't' seem to support the Headset profile on PC.
Thanks
well if your pc has bluetooth it should be able to work....i have a usb to bluetooth adapter for my pc and i can get the audio going to it never tired to use a mic or use my pc as a speaker phone but 1 thing for sure the audio from calls go on my pc....if i had a mic i would test it out...also as another option(if your phone has it.) u could just use speaker phone...
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i have a usb to bluetooth adapter for my pc and i can get the audio going to it
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What's the make/model of the USB BT you're using?
Mine is:
Toshiba Bluetooth Stack for Windows
Version v5.10.15
When I pair up the profiles displayed on the tilt are:
A2DP: Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
SPP: Serial Port Profile
The profiles in the Toshiba BT manager are:
DUN: Dial-Up Networking Profile
LAP: LAN Access Profile
If I use my BT headphones (Sonorix C3) with MortPlayer, A2DP works, If I try to use the Toshiba USB BT it doesn't work.
I think the one I need is (either)
HSP: Headset Profile
or
HFP: Handsfree Profile
I'm suspecting the toshiba bt stack is to blame, anyone else able to use a toshiba stack and get HSP/HFP working on their PC?
Im currently using My Mobiler to use my VOX due to having removed the broken screen from its shell
whenever i take a call, all i do is put it on speakerphone and it works fine
using the computers speakers and mic would be great fun, but for me its impossible due to the bluetooth dongle i use not having any compatible (free) software that uses audio streaming, but if it did, audio streaming should work with both speakers AND a mic! so it should in theory work.
i think
cris_rowlands said:
whenever i take a call, all i do is put it on speakerphone
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Grondinm said:
u could just use speaker phone...
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Speakerphone isn't an option, I'm in an office and the sharing of my conversation with my coworkers via loud speaker wouldn't be appreciated.
I intend to use a headset+mic combo hooked up to my pc, this way I can listen to music off my pc, and handle calls.
flow would be:
[Phone]<--display&control(via My Mobiler)-->[KVM - PC]
[Phone]<--voice*(Need solution here)*-->[MIC & Headset - PC]
Salling Clicker Is on the road to what I'd like to do, although it doesn't have voice support under windows. It's on the road to PPC <> PC convergence.
Any one have any experience with tweaking Salling Clicker to work with voice?
thetiltedKaiser said:
What I'd like to do (and hopefully where you guys can help me out) is to use some method or software to relay the call through my PC (and use my pc's built in speakers & mic). Bonus if the method leverages something I'm already running (ActiveSync/My Mobiler).
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When I paired my MDA Vario III with my notebook (HP TC4200 Tablet PC running a Broadcomm BT stack) I had a "Voice gateway" service available from my phone. This is in addition to DUN and Network Access Point services. Basically when I PC and phone connect my PC acts as a BT speakerphone.
I've not used the setup that often but it seems to work pretty well. When 1st connected a pop up briefly appears to inform me that the "Call Monitor" is active and that's it til a call comes in. At that point a notification gets displayed saying the number or callerID with buttons for "Accept & "Reject". If I take the call, or transfer and active call to the BT headset then my PC picks up the call.
By default my notebook uses its built in loudspeaker and microphone. However I can also pair my PC with a BT headset then route all sounds through it. It's a bit of a faff though as I have to change the active sound device to whatever headset is connected. I also need to connect the PC and eadset 1st if the headset is also paired with the phone, otherwise the real BT headset may take the call instead of the "virtual" one (notebook). I haven't tried this with my BT stereo headset though, only my conventional mono...
Whilst playing during a particularly boring teleconference I also discovered that I can record the calls and pass the sound through a text to speech converter supplied with the PC... the results of the latter are more for entertainment than serious use, althoug I suppose with some training it might be better...
I also use Salling Clicker. The phone events work pretty well, but to date I've yet to take a call using the PC whilst it is running.
Not sure if this helps in your case, but it seems like what you want to do is definitely possible.
Fatman it's like you've taken a page right out of my book. What software are you using for speech to text? This could make for a useful and entertaining audit trail... Sounds like I need to pickup a new BT adapter based on the Broadcomm stack. If anybody has had any luck using the Toshiba stack, please share.
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What software are you using for speech to text?
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I'm not sure if the program is available as separate software. It's called "Microsoft English Recognizer" and was pre-installed on my notebook. I have no idea how it compares to any other programs. I've only playted around with it very briefly as a way of killing time during a boring teleconference!
However, I can't see why any program couldn't be used as the sound from the phone is available to any software as the BT stream from the phone becomes the default input sound feed.
One thing I will definitely be trying next time is recording the call whilst taking notes using Tablet Enhancements for Outlook. THis basically augments the normal MS Outlook Journal functions so I can take handwritten notes which can be edited, commented, and then later searched. If you record the microphone feed (i.e. the phone call in my case) the notes are then linked into "timeline" of the call so you can see what notes were taken when, and conversely what happened in the call when you took a particular note... should be useful if it works...
Let me know if you need any additional info about BT stack versions and drivers etc but it does sound like you'd need the Broadcomm stack - ISTR reading that the Brioadcomm stacks on some PocketPCs have laways performed better than the MS equivalents, and it appears that the same if true for PCs too... The BT on my notebook is far more reliable, and flexible than that on my work PC which uses an MS BT dongle. However, that may be due to the fact that the BT on my notebook is built in and not USB...
Good luck!
found this:
Bluesoleil
http://www.bluesoleil.com/download/index.asp?topic=bluesoleil6x
It has a Dialer plugin.
Have not tried it yet but if someone has please let us know.
Does any have a Widcomm or Broadcom Bluetooth stack for the HTC Touch Pro? Has anyone been successful in using a Widcomm or Broadcom stack on the Touch Pro? The M$ one is insufficient/too difficult to work with for my current needs.
What are your current needs? The stack on the TP is massively improved.
bluetooth needs
I am working on an under cover voice recognition driven data collection program. it uses a nuance voice recognition engine. I need to use a bluetooth headset for audio in and audio out. We are writing it in native c++. now that we have a Touch Pro we finally have a phone with a fast enough processor and enough ram to handle the app, but we are having some difficulty tapping into the ms stack and thought that working with a Broadcom stack might be easier. the app works great with a wired headset but we need a bluetooth one to be more inconspicuous.
Interesting app... I take it you're not planning on a general commercial implementation since having to include a new bt stack would make it less marketable. I'm not aware of any Widcomm development on this device but I'm somewhat new to it myself and not fully up to speed on what's going on in terms of development efforts yet.
will this work with the vogue?
BT Stack upgrade or mod needed.
Please don;t flame me for responding to an older post, but I need help. I have a HTC TP with Verizon with
Long story short, I purchased 2 (Not at the same time) Pioneer GPS units: AVIC F500BT (Later sold it due to this inconvenient problem) and currently have a AVIC X910BT. The problem I had with the older unit (500BT) is that when my phone establishes connection for the 1st tie to the unit, it reboots it. the phone stays on all the while and BT is enabled. After the unit reboots and re-pairs with the phone, it reboots again until the BT is disabled on the phone. Since this happened, I sold the F500BT and purchased a newer, with more features model with a different firmware. However, I'm experiencing the exact same problem. I tried the native WM 6.1 Verizon ROM and 3 different 6.5 ROMS which have the same effect on the unit.
Ok, with that being said, I've been told to come here for a BT Stack for my phone that is compatible with the unit. The Units run WinCE.
Please help...
hello everyone i have question or maybe an idea for a talented dev i was wondering if it is possible to emulate a key fob (for a car alarm) using a windows mobile phone
Not the standard 433MHz transmitter.
But it would be possible to achieve similar with Bluetooth. Then you have to integrate a bluetooth receiver into your car alarm. Using serial communication you would then transmit lock/unlock commands. It would also be possible to auto-pair when in range and unlock the car automatically.
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Not the standard 433MHz transmitter.
But it would be possible to achieve similar with Bluetooth. Then you have to integrate a bluetooth receiver into your car alarm. Using serial communication you would then transmit lock/unlock commands. It would also be possible to auto-pair when in range and unlock the car automatically.
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All thing are very "Techi" to me but if it possible then its defiantly proud to be WM user.
Anyway is it working with any other handsets...?
The Chevy Volt is suppossed to have an iPhone and BlackBerry app that will allow that, so yes its definitely possible. But their sollution may rely on 3G connectivity on both ends, I'm not sure.
" But their sollution may rely on 3G connectivity on both ends, I'm not sure."
if that is the case then the car would have to have a sim card too
otherwise you don't get a 3g connection more likely it's wifi based
In theory, you could use one of the phones with a USB port, with an adapter to 433 MHz to read in the pairing, then re-pair with a car.
But directly pair with a standard car-fob arrangement without additional hardware, no.
There is a lot of talk about Mango right now. Does anyone know if the Bluetooth stack is going to include more profiles? In particular interest to me is the Serial Port Profile (SPP).
I'm not sure, but I don't think so. On this moment bt in wp7 mango has minimum functionality.
How bout Bluetooth profiles for video sound?
external gps
I know that Microsoft does not officially support many bluetooth profiles except headsets and a few others listed at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2449475.
Is it possible to get the radios in a WM7 phone and a device that uses a profile excluded from Microsoft's list to communicate at all?
I reckon external GPS units all use the SPP profile (serial port?)
more discussion about BT:
http://forums.techarena.in/portable-devices/1403479.htm
http://en.kioskea.net/contents/bluetooth/bluetooth-fonctionnement.php3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016354
http://forums.create.msdn.com/forums/p/77644/512113.aspx