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S710 (vox) bluetooth carkit probs

I received my shiny new S710 today (replacing my imate sp5) i am having terrible problems with bluetooth and my car kit (Parrot Ck3100 with latest sortware) The phone connects and syncs ok but disconnects after a few mins and refuses to connect again.
I have an old motorola h605 headset that shows similar problems of not connecting or dropping the connection.
The Ck3100 kit has worked faultlessly with my imate sp5 for the last year.
Has anyone else had any problems with headsets or car kits?!
I have done a hard reset on the S710 and have nothing installed, and also disconnected the power to the CK3100 for 1/2 an hour before attempting to re setup the pairing
iain

Nokia CK7W
On a similar note, while my Vodafone V1415 works with my Nokia CK7W, I cannot end a call by pressing the button. Last number redial (two presses) and Hold or something like it (press and hold) are OK. To be fair, the CK7W is a little dated, but has proven to be fine with both Blue Angel and Hermes.
On the plus side the audio is good, without any echo for the remote caller.

Nokia CK-7W and S710
As with the Qtek 9100, the S710 seems not to operate soomthly with the NOKIA carkit CK-7w. I have to turn volume up to 100% and the sound from the speaker is still rather quite. The person i am calling is complaining that the line is not perfect. So for me it is back to the standard corded earpiece.
So any tips using the CK-7W and vox succesfully together are welcome!

@mcroonen
It's strange that I don't have the same experience as you. What version is your software? Compare with mine in my signature. I'm afraid I can't offer any suggestions, it seems to be pot luck! Maybe we find some variations in the radio stacks that will sort this out.

further to this i managed to borrow a e650 (vox) from work and it worked 100% with my car kit and tomtom and laptop!
I spoke to htc who said they had tested with the parrot ck3100 and said it worked 100%, as my phone was struggling to be detected by several devices and also struggling to detect other things that they recomended getting it replaced.
Spoke to handtech who said they would replace asap

jbn said:
@mcroonen
It's strange that I don't have the same experience as you. What version is your software? Compare with mine in my signature. I'm afraid I can't offer any suggestions, it seems to be pot luck! Maybe we find some variations in the radio stacks that will sort this out.
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@jbn
KPN
OS: 5.2.1235 (Build 17740.0.2.0)
ROM: 1.15.405.2
Radio: 4.1.12.37_02.83.90

I had problems whith the sound quality and people not hearing me well.
For me it helped to delete the registry settings for the nokia ck-7w
It's under software/htc not sure if it was in LM or CU. I think LM.
Good luck

Had the same problem. Qtek8310 was working fine, S710 not. After a reset of the Parrot also the S710 is working fine.

aage said:
I had problems whith the sound quality and people not hearing me well.
For me it helped to delete the registry settings for the nokia ck-7w
It's under software/htc not sure if it was in LM or CU. I think LM.
Good luck
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Unfortenately deleting the settings introduces echo and noise (voice sounds like robot). I think S710 and Nokis Ck-7w are not made for eachother.
I will try using the Parrot 3100 as on alternative BT solution..

Parrot CK3300 GPS CAR KIT
I have the Parrot CK3300 GPS CAR KIT and no problems at all with my S710, works a dream

Parrot
Hi,
You should visit http://www.parrot.com/uk/support/downloads
and get the latest software for your Parrot. You will need a bluetooth enabled laptop or to get your bluetooth enabled PC near your car!
Flash your parrot, then connect choosing a windows CE device. It will fully sync your phonebook too.
I use the Orange E650 and connect to my Holux GPS receiver and Parrot 3100 at the same time with no problems at all.
cheers
Sinet2020

JETware
See this thread for a possible solution for the Nokia CK7W!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331096

Parrot CK3100 BT carkit and WM6 problems

Ever since I upgraded my M700 to WM6 I have had no end of problems using my Parrot Ck3100 bluetooth carkit and my phone.
It worked perfectly with WM5 but I have since upgraded with various versions of WM6 from AXL and Mary's version. I've also tried various different radio ROMs up to the latest 1.50.08.11 but no difference. These are the problems I have been experiencing:
1, Intermittent loss of link between phone and Parrot.
2, Call not routed through car speakers even though BT is connected.
3, Sometimes the audio is lost completely as the phone thinks it has diverted it to the car speakers, when it hasn't and mutes the phone. Other times the music note with the line through it (mute?) is on during a call.
4, Calls dialled through Parrot dial, but voice goes through phone.
5, Parrot reboots itself after a call.
Although since uprgading to WM6 I now have network name, signal strength and battery level on the Parrot, it's main usability has become very frustrating as it only seems to work as advertised 25% of the time. I have checked the firmware on the Parrot and it has the latest version and it still works perfectly with my friends' Sony Erricson, so I know it's not a problem with the Parrot, only WM6.
I have also tried JETware BT stack, but it didn't make any difference, the same problems persisted.

BT-Parrot-Trinity-WM6
Pls. 1.update Parrot met latest version- www.parrot.com
2. update Cyberon / cyberon patchCVSD: www.cyberon.com.tw
( http://www.cyberon.com.tw/upload/qa1/CVSD_Patch.CAB )
-Maja-

Parrot has latest sotware.
Have installed the patch and will let you know if it improves.
Thanks for the quick reply.

BT-Parrot-Trinity-WM6
abeesley said:
Ever since I upgraded my M700 to WM6 I have had no end of problems using my Parrot Ck3100 bluetooth carkit and my phone.
It worked perfectly with WM5 but I have since upgraded with various versions of WM6 from AXL and Mary's version. I've also tried various different radio ROMs up to the latest 1.50.08.11 but no difference. These are the problems I have been experiencing:
1, Intermittent loss of link between phone and Parrot.
2, Call not routed through car speakers even though BT is connected.
3, Sometimes the audio is lost completely as the phone thinks it has diverted it to the car speakers, when it hasn't and mutes the phone. Other times the music note with the line through it (mute?) is on during a call.
4, Calls dialled through Parrot dial, but voice goes through phone.
5, Parrot reboots itself after a call.
Although since uprgading to WM6 I now have network name, signal strength and battery level on the Parrot, it's main usability has become very frustrating as it only seems to work as advertised 25% of the time. I have checked the firmware on the Parrot and it has the latest version and it still works perfectly with my friends' Sony Erricson, so I know it's not a problem with the Parrot, only WM6.
I have also tried JETware BT stack, but it didn't make any difference, the same problems persisted.
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Have exactly the same problems... WM5 worked perfectly with car kit, but since ROM flash update to WM6 never worked the same way then...
Perhaps a flash update to parrot car kit solves the problem...
Any new issue after this?

I've given up on wm6 at the mo. I use a parrot mini and have the same problem with all the wm6 roms I've tried. Have gone back to wm5 and no problems.

I had same problem
last sunday I had the unlucky idea to update my CK3100 ; until that it worked perfectly with my HTC p3600 with WM6.
After a short period , I found a solution installing JETware BT HFP Extension 1.31; now everythingh is perfect , contacts are well syncronized , every indication is ok , etc. any residual prblem !!!

Parrot BT problems
tower5 said:
last sunday I had the unlucky idea to update my CK3100 ; until that it worked perfectly with my HTC p3600 with WM6.
After a short period , I found a solution installing JETware BT HFP Extension 1.31; now everythingh is perfect , contacts are well syncronized , every indication is ok , etc. any residual prblem !!!
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I checked my CK3100 firmware version and confirmed that is the last one 4.16_C.
I'll try to install the that same BT extension an let you know...

tower5 said:
last sunday I had the unlucky idea to update my CK3100 ; until that it worked perfectly with my HTC p3600 with WM6.
After a short period , I found a solution installing JETware BT HFP Extension 1.31; now everythingh is perfect , contacts are well syncronized , every indication is ok , etc. any residual prblem !!!
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I have the same problem. Were I can find CAB for these jet truth BT HFP Extension 1.31 ? Pls. THX.

BT-Parrot-Trinity-WM6
dateboy said:
I have the same problem. Were I can find CAB for these jet truth BT HFP Extension 1.31 ? Pls. THX.
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Have installed and works far better now.
Entire weekend without a problem.
Go to JetWare website http://www.jetwaremobile.com/

Parrot BT Problem
i s my post from Parrot:
Hello sir ,
Thank you for your feed back ,our technical engineers are currently doing some advance tests regarding this issue
Inorder to find solutions.
Moreover you can try this procedure inorder to connect your phone with the kit :
First of all , please delete preving paring settings which is present in parrot ck3200 ( settings/ paried devices )
And also in your phone .
And repair your phone by using the menu « disable syncho »
Regards,
Parrot
( maja )

Hi all,
I have just updated my SPV M700 to udk 6.0 Italian WM6 ROM and I'm not able to pair it with my Parrot CK3500 (or Ck3100) hands-free kit...
I have applied both patches from JetWare and Cyberon but still got connection error...
PDA says that connection security code is not recognized by Parrot and Parrot display says that "Bluetooth connection failed".
Anybody can help with this problem?
Thanks
Regards

Parrot and probl.WM6- ck3200,
Hi, is my 3 post from Parrot:
Hello sir ,
Thank you for your feed back , Indeed We notice some issue regarding the phones working in windows mobile 6 et ck3200,
So we are currently doing some advance tests regarding this issue .
And also we get feedbacks from clients, who mentionned us that in software version 2.03 E windows mobile phones works better than in 2.11 .
I can provide you the software version 2.03 e for ck3200 so that you can test it with your windows mobile 6 phone .
Regards,
Daniel PRASANTH
Customer Service
Parrot
174 Quai de Jemmapes
75010 Paris
France
(maja)

I have a new Sprint 6800 -Mogul (ROM 2.09.651.3) with WM6 (pro CE OS 5.2.1238) factory load . I am trying to get it to work a Bluetooth car kit.
Originally tried a Motorla HF850 and had dropout problems (paired and connected great then randomly dropped the connection.
Just bought a Parrot CK3100 (firmware version 4.16c) and it is experiencing exactly the same problems as described by abeesley (thread item #1).
Scattered throughout various blogs is the same theme, this phone has bluetooth issues but there is no consensus of where the problem is or what to do to fix it.
Does anyone know of a fix?
If not who needs to be chased, Sprint, HTC, Microsoft, Parrot
This is getting very frustrating
Thanks

i deleted all pairing from both sides
paired the device with parot
name appeared
but phone both and call register didn't

I have just had the 3200LS installed into my car and am having similiar problems. Most notibly, whenever the phone rings and i press the answer button on the parrot, it disconnects the bluetooth and then i cant hear anything. It does this every single time, but works fine (well 80%) when i dial out from the parrot.

With my Motorola HF850, I have the same issue referring the route to the CK speaker when answering a call. I tried to install all the software/Radio ROM...no way! MY P3600 WM6 does not want to work properly...while no issues running WM5

I have the same problem with the Parrot minikit and HTC TOUCH
Hi all,
I just bought the Parrot minikit, and I am facing the same problems with the HTC TOUCH.
The minikit is paired perfectly, when I dial a number from the TOUCH, the sound of the call remains on the TOUCH, only when pressing the answer button in the minikit it sometimes transfers the call to the minikit.
I opened a SUPPORT case to Parrot and they are saying:
"We have fully tested the HTC Touch in France with our Minikit and we did not see any impediments. "
So I emailed them back with allot of links describing the problem.
Good luck to us all

The issue is for sure within the new Bluetooth stack in the WM6...it weould be great if we could roll back to the WM5 one...

BT-Parrot-Trinity-WM6
fl3nd3r said:
The issue is for sure within the new Bluetooth stack in the WM6...it weould be great if we could roll back to the WM5 one...
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Hey man,
I had all the trouble described above, and i did a lot of things (tried another wm6 rom, for ex.) and never had problems since.
Try to:
1st - remove pairing bluetooth devices both on phone and Parrot
2nd - pair again both
3rd - If still having problems, try a different wm6 rom or install the JetWare BT extension (don't forget to repeat steps 1st-2nd, after install/update)
This should work.
Regards.

xmaavx said:
Hey man,
I had all the trouble described above, and i did a lot of things (tried another wm6 rom, for ex.) and never had problems since.
Try to:
1st - remove pairing bluetooth devices both on phone and Parrot
2nd - pair again both
3rd - If still having problems, try a different wm6 rom or install the JetWare BT extension (don't forget to repeat steps 1st-2nd, after install/update)
This should work.
Regards.
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Hi, thanks for your hint. Unfortunately I tried with all of these stuff, but still having the same [email protected] moment I run Lasagna ROM 3.05 KE Full with Jetware ext...and still struggling...I'm desperate....the only way to make it works is to roll back to WM5...but I do not want...

Trouble Car-Bluetooth and WM6

Hi All,
I just had a brand new Car with Bluetooth. (Citroen C4 Grande Picasso)
With this Bluetooth I should have the abbility to to connect, answer, and scroll trough the contacts, of my phone. I'm using a Wizard G3 with WM6 (Dutch) IPL/ SPL 3.08 and Radio: 1.08. (Radio will be updated soon)
Probelm is: stuff is not working! I can connect the phone to the car with Bluetooth and it is recognizing it. When I make a call or one comes in, the Car sees it and mutes the audio. But that's all. I do not hear anything and I can't be heard. Also the button (on the steering wheel) for contacts doesn't work; meaning: It says: there are no contacts.
Who experienced the same pproblems and more important who solved these?

Hi Jedeve,
I have the same problem with the same car. It worked for me when I first started TT and then automatically my bluetooth GPS mouse was connected and all was working fine. Strnage but true. It looks like if a channel is set open when connecting to the bluetooth GPS mouse and stay open so evrything is working. I also have looked into registry setting son bluetooth if I can find differences by using diff but no strange differences where found.
I also talked to the Citroen dealer and they told that it might be possible that new telephones with the newest software are not able to work correctly with the carkit.
I have a Wizard (I think a G3) with Octavoi 9.2 on it, IPL/ SPL 3.08 and Radio: 2.71.11.

Hi,
same car and same problem here.
It seems worked with WM5 and problem showed after upgrading to WM6.
Calling/answering from car controls ends with total silence most times.
I've noticed that if a call is answered from phone it works most times.
Also car phonebook seems support only latin characters and any contacts with non-latin ones(cyrillic in my case) do not appear on car.
Would appreciate any suggestions/solution to above problems.

Hi,
I have same problem, with same car! with TNT wm6 Roms!
With new TNT 6.1 did not try yet...
Now I have Slim wm6.1 ROM and no problem! With NTS wm6 rom not problem too... works fine!

Ms bluetooth stack vs broadcomm stack

My touch pro seems to have real bluetooth issues with my JVC KD-NX5000 stereo system. My kaiser worked flawlessly with it but with the touch pro it wont pair at times and when it does it wont let me use any of the many functions that the stereo offers (voice dialing, downloaded phonebook, etc) I assume this is a problem with the ms bluetooth stack and was wondering how tough of a job it would be to switch to a broadcomm stack or if anyone has thought about making a custom rom with the broadcomm stack. Just curious if Im the only one with issues with wm 6.1 and bluetooth.

i have the same problem with my diamnd anbd jvc car audio

Slightly OT rant:-
I had the opposite problem with pioneer + broadcom...
Pioneer only looks for handsets which identify themselves as phone or smartphone, and my device identified itself as a pda.
I actually told pioneer about the problem, and rather than forwarding on to the developers, I got a stock reply:-
"This phone is not on our compatibility list" (so we don't care)
So I went and got an MS based phone (you can change it to smartphone with a regedit).
Never buying pioneer again...
- Anthony

Similiar issue with my opel carkit.
Tried to make the broadcom stack working, but got a memory error when opening its blue tooth manager.
After uninstalling, bluetooth didn't work at all anymore, needed to perform a hard reset.
Has anyone successfully installed the broadcom BT stack on the touchpro/raphael?

I found that my Touch Pro would pair and then drop out when connecting to my Kenwood DDX5032 car stereo bluetooth adaptor. I couldn't dial from the Kenwood kit, couldn't use A2DP (wouldn't even connect), and really couldn't use any Headset Profile functions at all.
I persisted with pairing and unpairing in different ways (you can initiate the pairing from the Kenwood itself rather than the phone), but nothing really worked.
Then trinode's post about changing a registry setting sent me down that track and now everything is working fine
I found the relevant setting from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290871, which is [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\sys\COD], and then changed the HTC TP default value of '5898764' (decimal), to the value from my old Dopod838Pro, which was '5374228' (in decimal).
I didn't even need to repair the Kewood to the HTC TP - it just worked straight away, as if it said "Oh, sorry, did you want me to work? I thought you wanted me to be in 'stupid' mode! My bad - everything will work now."
So all good, and thanks to trinode for pointing me in the right direction.
Codenix.

After hard-resetting my Touch Pro to fix another separate issue, now this problem has come back and this time changing the COD value hasn't fixed it. It would appear my previous post may have attributed my success to the wrong thing
The search for the answer continues!

I found a firmware update for my Kenwood's bluetooth adaptor which fixed the problem. I don't know why it ever worked at all before this update, but there you go!
I'll create a separate thread to share this with others in case anyone else out there has a Kenwood bluetooth kit and a Touch Pro or a Diamond.
Thanks.

The thread I created re the Kenwood is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2835805

@ Trinode
Pioneer sent my unit back, but never told me that my phone was not supported. Where did you flag the smartphone in the registry? Did it fix the BT connection/unti reboot issue? I had a AVIC F500BT (sold it) now have a AVIC X910BT same issue as the 500 had.

@ Trinode. I found the hack , tried it, but it still doesn't resolve my issue. Are there any other mods out there for the BT Stack prob?

Bluetooth stereo headset bugs (handsfree mode fail & device.exe crash)

I've noticed these similar (and likely related) bugs in a lot of places and have been living with them for six months, but I have never seen a fix. Surely there are others with this issue that might be able to fix it.
Issue #1: When you connect a Bluetooth stereo headset to a Windows Mobile device, using the Wireless Stereo AND Hands Free profiles, the wireless stereo feature works fine, but when attempting to answer a call, hands free fails. The hands free icon shows on the Phone screen, no audio is heard, and after a few seconds the headset shuts off and the icon goes away.
Issue #2: When you connect a Bluetooth stereo headset to a Windows Mobile device using the Wireless Stereo profile and are watching video in Windows Media Player, if a call comes in, the program device.exe crashes and Windows Media Player will often need to be restarted. Device.exe will often crash at other times as well.
I have seen numerous reports of this problem, and near universal reports of it on the Dell BH200 Bluetooth Stereo Headphones. It seems to require A2DP, and be very common among HTC devices. I have had the same problem on the AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) and AT&T Fuze (Touch Pro/Rafael) under Windows Mobile 6. I can confirm the headset works as it is supposed to on Palm OS (Palm Centro) in headset mode, and that it was also able to work as a headset on the T-Mobile MDA (Wizard) running Windows Mobile 5 (which does not support A2DP).
In all cases, I am talking about devices using stock ROMs.
If you have seen the problem, please list the device, OS, and bluetooth device used. If you have a bluetooth stereo headset that does not exhibit the issue on devices that are known to have this problem, list that as well, so owners of devices with this issue can consider alternative headsets.
If you have any technical knowledge of what causes the issue, please share it. If you have heard of any workarounds, please share it.
Thank you all.

I have the Samsung i-640 running WM6 and have the same issue with The Dell BH200 not doin Hands free mode and the whole shut down of device happens too ..very Frustrating .
I tried using the Nokia BH 100 which does only Mono [Hands Free] and i get $hit loads of static noise but the Device doesnt Shutdown.

Heya, I have the AT&T Fuze and I also own the BH200. I have the same exact issue you have (issue #1). I have no idea why it does this but I've been trying to get support from dell for the longest time with no luck.
I think the problem lies in the MS BT stack. It does an automatic pin guessing thing which might cause the bh200 to not work properly. I have tested the fuze on the BT2020 (by Jabra) and it works perfectly. I just recently bought the moto s9 (still waiting for it to arrive) but I would prefer to use the dell bh200 if possible.
Check my sig for the information you're looking for.

Dell sends you to PC support when you try to get support on the device, since it's usually sold as an accessory with computers, but they refuse to offer actual support on the actual device, as though they knew nothing about it or how it works. I asked them if it was a rebranded version of another company's headset, and they wouldn't say.

I tried to get help from dell already, and they're as much help with it as telemarketers...

Similar problem
Maybe this is a stereo headset bug...
Maybe this is designed behavior, but it is typical of why people HAVE to hack the crap out of WM to be happy with it:
I have a ATT Tilt.
Behavior same under WM6 and WM6.1
I have a Jabra BT610s (stereo headphone with A2DP, AVRCP, handsfree, & wireless stereo profiles).
If the Tilt is paired with both wireless stereo & hands-free, then even if Win Media is running or playing, the hands-free profile is selected when powering on the headphones. Then, the stupid ATT Bluetooth settings are so buried that it requires about 30 secs of sylus picking, poking, and prodding to get it set to wireless stereo.
Is there a way to set the Tilt to default to wireless stereo, is there a helper app for quick-switching this?
Also, there are not infrequent dropouts in audio over bluetooth, even with the phone setting on the desk 24" away from the headphones as I type this.
All the remote control features DO work with this setup, but unfortunately there's no remote control function for profile switching.
Thanks,

I am using a stock ROM and I don't have the above problems. I am using a motorolla hb820 headset. I also use an LG Style i headset, and no problems either. I use Core Player and it plays fine even after a call. I only use WMP to play music and my X7510 haven't froze yet while playing music when a call comes in.

Hi
I am using Lg KE590 but I am not using the device so I have not gone through the problem. Is it for all the handset ?
John
Don Joao Resort

I have several configurations with problems to report below:
1) HTC P3600i (WM6 stock ROM) + Dell BH200 => issue #1 (never try issue #2)
2) HTC P3600i (WM6 stock ROM) + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
3) Dopod S300 (WM5 stock ROM) + Dell BH200 => stereo music & phone call works but music switch back to the phone after end of a call
4) Dopod S300 (WM5 stock ROM) + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
5) Nokia 5610 Xpress Music + Dell BH200 => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
6) Nokia 5610 Xpress Music + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
Summary: I tend to believe that the problem is specific to Dell BH200 and some of HTC's or WM OS combination as Dell BH200 works fine with Nokia phones and Dopod BT headphones always work with any phones we have.

Reporting in, Im using Motorola S305 Stereo BT. No above issues whatsoever with 2 devices HTC Kaiser and Touch Pro. Both with stock or cooked ROM. I have a strong feeling its related to hardware prob on Dell BH200.

I have a touch pro that refuse to play nice with my AVIC-D3 head unit...I must pick either headset profile or wireless stereo profile, but not both. I remember coming across a solution called a2dptoggle. It let you switch between the 2 easily (in wm agenda page), but try it out to see if that's a solution or not.

Issue #1 using HTC Touch Pro and Dell BH200
Because of that issue i can't use the hands free function at all.
Only way i can use my headset is:
If i uncheck Hands free from partnership settings, then an incoming call mutes headset, i take out the phone have my conversation manually, after hangup the music plays on.