Polaris BT problem with Renault Laguna - Touch Cruise General

Hi,
When using the Polaris with standard Dutch ROM in a Renault Laguna with built-in carkit system, the sound is very crappy. The paring goes fine, but the sound in the car is crap. Moreover, the other side cannot even hear my voice at all. I apllied the 2 hotfixes from HTC e-club, but that didn't help. Is it possible to change the bluetooth stack from MS to Widcomm or something, or is there any other solution?
Any help is surely appreciated!
Wouter

I had the same problem with my Mondeo (2008). I changed rom to WWE 6.1 (PdaViet V23 - at this moment) and problems disappeared. Perfect reception (both ways) and also all contacts visble through car touch screen..

Thanks a lot for your reply. Good to know that that's an option. I'll keep it in mind. However, I'm kind of hoping for a solution that doesn't require using another ROM, for warranty reasons...

The problem was finally solved by a software update on the car, done by the local renault dealer.

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S710 (vox) bluetooth carkit probs

I received my shiny new S710 today (replacing my imate sp5) i am having terrible problems with bluetooth and my car kit (Parrot Ck3100 with latest sortware) The phone connects and syncs ok but disconnects after a few mins and refuses to connect again.
I have an old motorola h605 headset that shows similar problems of not connecting or dropping the connection.
The Ck3100 kit has worked faultlessly with my imate sp5 for the last year.
Has anyone else had any problems with headsets or car kits?!
I have done a hard reset on the S710 and have nothing installed, and also disconnected the power to the CK3100 for 1/2 an hour before attempting to re setup the pairing
iain
Nokia CK7W
On a similar note, while my Vodafone V1415 works with my Nokia CK7W, I cannot end a call by pressing the button. Last number redial (two presses) and Hold or something like it (press and hold) are OK. To be fair, the CK7W is a little dated, but has proven to be fine with both Blue Angel and Hermes.
On the plus side the audio is good, without any echo for the remote caller.
Nokia CK-7W and S710
As with the Qtek 9100, the S710 seems not to operate soomthly with the NOKIA carkit CK-7w. I have to turn volume up to 100% and the sound from the speaker is still rather quite. The person i am calling is complaining that the line is not perfect. So for me it is back to the standard corded earpiece.
So any tips using the CK-7W and vox succesfully together are welcome!
@mcroonen
It's strange that I don't have the same experience as you. What version is your software? Compare with mine in my signature. I'm afraid I can't offer any suggestions, it seems to be pot luck! Maybe we find some variations in the radio stacks that will sort this out.
further to this i managed to borrow a e650 (vox) from work and it worked 100% with my car kit and tomtom and laptop!
I spoke to htc who said they had tested with the parrot ck3100 and said it worked 100%, as my phone was struggling to be detected by several devices and also struggling to detect other things that they recomended getting it replaced.
Spoke to handtech who said they would replace asap
jbn said:
@mcroonen
It's strange that I don't have the same experience as you. What version is your software? Compare with mine in my signature. I'm afraid I can't offer any suggestions, it seems to be pot luck! Maybe we find some variations in the radio stacks that will sort this out.
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@jbn
KPN
OS: 5.2.1235 (Build 17740.0.2.0)
ROM: 1.15.405.2
Radio: 4.1.12.37_02.83.90
I had problems whith the sound quality and people not hearing me well.
For me it helped to delete the registry settings for the nokia ck-7w
It's under software/htc not sure if it was in LM or CU. I think LM.
Good luck
Had the same problem. Qtek8310 was working fine, S710 not. After a reset of the Parrot also the S710 is working fine.
aage said:
I had problems whith the sound quality and people not hearing me well.
For me it helped to delete the registry settings for the nokia ck-7w
It's under software/htc not sure if it was in LM or CU. I think LM.
Good luck
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Unfortenately deleting the settings introduces echo and noise (voice sounds like robot). I think S710 and Nokis Ck-7w are not made for eachother.
I will try using the Parrot 3100 as on alternative BT solution..
Parrot CK3300 GPS CAR KIT
I have the Parrot CK3300 GPS CAR KIT and no problems at all with my S710, works a dream
Parrot
Hi,
You should visit http://www.parrot.com/uk/support/downloads
and get the latest software for your Parrot. You will need a bluetooth enabled laptop or to get your bluetooth enabled PC near your car!
Flash your parrot, then connect choosing a windows CE device. It will fully sync your phonebook too.
I use the Orange E650 and connect to my Holux GPS receiver and Parrot 3100 at the same time with no problems at all.
cheers
Sinet2020
JETware
See this thread for a possible solution for the Nokia CK7W!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331096

Parrot CK3100 BT carkit and WM6 problems

Ever since I upgraded my M700 to WM6 I have had no end of problems using my Parrot Ck3100 bluetooth carkit and my phone.
It worked perfectly with WM5 but I have since upgraded with various versions of WM6 from AXL and Mary's version. I've also tried various different radio ROMs up to the latest 1.50.08.11 but no difference. These are the problems I have been experiencing:
1, Intermittent loss of link between phone and Parrot.
2, Call not routed through car speakers even though BT is connected.
3, Sometimes the audio is lost completely as the phone thinks it has diverted it to the car speakers, when it hasn't and mutes the phone. Other times the music note with the line through it (mute?) is on during a call.
4, Calls dialled through Parrot dial, but voice goes through phone.
5, Parrot reboots itself after a call.
Although since uprgading to WM6 I now have network name, signal strength and battery level on the Parrot, it's main usability has become very frustrating as it only seems to work as advertised 25% of the time. I have checked the firmware on the Parrot and it has the latest version and it still works perfectly with my friends' Sony Erricson, so I know it's not a problem with the Parrot, only WM6.
I have also tried JETware BT stack, but it didn't make any difference, the same problems persisted.
BT-Parrot-Trinity-WM6
Pls. 1.update Parrot met latest version- www.parrot.com
2. update Cyberon / cyberon patchCVSD: www.cyberon.com.tw
( http://www.cyberon.com.tw/upload/qa1/CVSD_Patch.CAB )
-Maja-
Parrot has latest sotware.
Have installed the patch and will let you know if it improves.
Thanks for the quick reply.
BT-Parrot-Trinity-WM6
abeesley said:
Ever since I upgraded my M700 to WM6 I have had no end of problems using my Parrot Ck3100 bluetooth carkit and my phone.
It worked perfectly with WM5 but I have since upgraded with various versions of WM6 from AXL and Mary's version. I've also tried various different radio ROMs up to the latest 1.50.08.11 but no difference. These are the problems I have been experiencing:
1, Intermittent loss of link between phone and Parrot.
2, Call not routed through car speakers even though BT is connected.
3, Sometimes the audio is lost completely as the phone thinks it has diverted it to the car speakers, when it hasn't and mutes the phone. Other times the music note with the line through it (mute?) is on during a call.
4, Calls dialled through Parrot dial, but voice goes through phone.
5, Parrot reboots itself after a call.
Although since uprgading to WM6 I now have network name, signal strength and battery level on the Parrot, it's main usability has become very frustrating as it only seems to work as advertised 25% of the time. I have checked the firmware on the Parrot and it has the latest version and it still works perfectly with my friends' Sony Erricson, so I know it's not a problem with the Parrot, only WM6.
I have also tried JETware BT stack, but it didn't make any difference, the same problems persisted.
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Have exactly the same problems... WM5 worked perfectly with car kit, but since ROM flash update to WM6 never worked the same way then...
Perhaps a flash update to parrot car kit solves the problem...
Any new issue after this?
I've given up on wm6 at the mo. I use a parrot mini and have the same problem with all the wm6 roms I've tried. Have gone back to wm5 and no problems.
I had same problem
last sunday I had the unlucky idea to update my CK3100 ; until that it worked perfectly with my HTC p3600 with WM6.
After a short period , I found a solution installing JETware BT HFP Extension 1.31; now everythingh is perfect , contacts are well syncronized , every indication is ok , etc. any residual prblem !!!
Parrot BT problems
tower5 said:
last sunday I had the unlucky idea to update my CK3100 ; until that it worked perfectly with my HTC p3600 with WM6.
After a short period , I found a solution installing JETware BT HFP Extension 1.31; now everythingh is perfect , contacts are well syncronized , every indication is ok , etc. any residual prblem !!!
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I checked my CK3100 firmware version and confirmed that is the last one 4.16_C.
I'll try to install the that same BT extension an let you know...
tower5 said:
last sunday I had the unlucky idea to update my CK3100 ; until that it worked perfectly with my HTC p3600 with WM6.
After a short period , I found a solution installing JETware BT HFP Extension 1.31; now everythingh is perfect , contacts are well syncronized , every indication is ok , etc. any residual prblem !!!
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I have the same problem. Were I can find CAB for these jet truth BT HFP Extension 1.31 ? Pls. THX.
BT-Parrot-Trinity-WM6
dateboy said:
I have the same problem. Were I can find CAB for these jet truth BT HFP Extension 1.31 ? Pls. THX.
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Have installed and works far better now.
Entire weekend without a problem.
Go to JetWare website http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
Parrot BT Problem
i s my post from Parrot:
Hello sir ,
Thank you for your feed back ,our technical engineers are currently doing some advance tests regarding this issue
Inorder to find solutions.
Moreover you can try this procedure inorder to connect your phone with the kit :
First of all , please delete preving paring settings which is present in parrot ck3200 ( settings/ paried devices )
And also in your phone .
And repair your phone by using the menu « disable syncho »
Regards,
Parrot
( maja )
Hi all,
I have just updated my SPV M700 to udk 6.0 Italian WM6 ROM and I'm not able to pair it with my Parrot CK3500 (or Ck3100) hands-free kit...
I have applied both patches from JetWare and Cyberon but still got connection error...
PDA says that connection security code is not recognized by Parrot and Parrot display says that "Bluetooth connection failed".
Anybody can help with this problem?
Thanks
Regards
Parrot and probl.WM6- ck3200,
Hi, is my 3 post from Parrot:
Hello sir ,
Thank you for your feed back , Indeed We notice some issue regarding the phones working in windows mobile 6 et ck3200,
So we are currently doing some advance tests regarding this issue .
And also we get feedbacks from clients, who mentionned us that in software version 2.03 E windows mobile phones works better than in 2.11 .
I can provide you the software version 2.03 e for ck3200 so that you can test it with your windows mobile 6 phone .
Regards,
Daniel PRASANTH
Customer Service
Parrot
174 Quai de Jemmapes
75010 Paris
France
(maja)
I have a new Sprint 6800 -Mogul (ROM 2.09.651.3) with WM6 (pro CE OS 5.2.1238) factory load . I am trying to get it to work a Bluetooth car kit.
Originally tried a Motorla HF850 and had dropout problems (paired and connected great then randomly dropped the connection.
Just bought a Parrot CK3100 (firmware version 4.16c) and it is experiencing exactly the same problems as described by abeesley (thread item #1).
Scattered throughout various blogs is the same theme, this phone has bluetooth issues but there is no consensus of where the problem is or what to do to fix it.
Does anyone know of a fix?
If not who needs to be chased, Sprint, HTC, Microsoft, Parrot
This is getting very frustrating
Thanks
i deleted all pairing from both sides
paired the device with parot
name appeared
but phone both and call register didn't
I have just had the 3200LS installed into my car and am having similiar problems. Most notibly, whenever the phone rings and i press the answer button on the parrot, it disconnects the bluetooth and then i cant hear anything. It does this every single time, but works fine (well 80%) when i dial out from the parrot.
With my Motorola HF850, I have the same issue referring the route to the CK speaker when answering a call. I tried to install all the software/Radio ROM...no way! MY P3600 WM6 does not want to work properly...while no issues running WM5
I have the same problem with the Parrot minikit and HTC TOUCH
Hi all,
I just bought the Parrot minikit, and I am facing the same problems with the HTC TOUCH.
The minikit is paired perfectly, when I dial a number from the TOUCH, the sound of the call remains on the TOUCH, only when pressing the answer button in the minikit it sometimes transfers the call to the minikit.
I opened a SUPPORT case to Parrot and they are saying:
"We have fully tested the HTC Touch in France with our Minikit and we did not see any impediments. "
So I emailed them back with allot of links describing the problem.
Good luck to us all
The issue is for sure within the new Bluetooth stack in the WM6...it weould be great if we could roll back to the WM5 one...
BT-Parrot-Trinity-WM6
fl3nd3r said:
The issue is for sure within the new Bluetooth stack in the WM6...it weould be great if we could roll back to the WM5 one...
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Hey man,
I had all the trouble described above, and i did a lot of things (tried another wm6 rom, for ex.) and never had problems since.
Try to:
1st - remove pairing bluetooth devices both on phone and Parrot
2nd - pair again both
3rd - If still having problems, try a different wm6 rom or install the JetWare BT extension (don't forget to repeat steps 1st-2nd, after install/update)
This should work.
Regards.
xmaavx said:
Hey man,
I had all the trouble described above, and i did a lot of things (tried another wm6 rom, for ex.) and never had problems since.
Try to:
1st - remove pairing bluetooth devices both on phone and Parrot
2nd - pair again both
3rd - If still having problems, try a different wm6 rom or install the JetWare BT extension (don't forget to repeat steps 1st-2nd, after install/update)
This should work.
Regards.
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Hi, thanks for your hint. Unfortunately I tried with all of these stuff, but still having the same [email protected] moment I run Lasagna ROM 3.05 KE Full with Jetware ext...and still struggling...I'm desperate....the only way to make it works is to roll back to WM5...but I do not want...

Trouble Car-Bluetooth and WM6

Hi All,
I just had a brand new Car with Bluetooth. (Citroen C4 Grande Picasso)
With this Bluetooth I should have the abbility to to connect, answer, and scroll trough the contacts, of my phone. I'm using a Wizard G3 with WM6 (Dutch) IPL/ SPL 3.08 and Radio: 1.08. (Radio will be updated soon)
Probelm is: stuff is not working! I can connect the phone to the car with Bluetooth and it is recognizing it. When I make a call or one comes in, the Car sees it and mutes the audio. But that's all. I do not hear anything and I can't be heard. Also the button (on the steering wheel) for contacts doesn't work; meaning: It says: there are no contacts.
Who experienced the same pproblems and more important who solved these?
Hi Jedeve,
I have the same problem with the same car. It worked for me when I first started TT and then automatically my bluetooth GPS mouse was connected and all was working fine. Strnage but true. It looks like if a channel is set open when connecting to the bluetooth GPS mouse and stay open so evrything is working. I also have looked into registry setting son bluetooth if I can find differences by using diff but no strange differences where found.
I also talked to the Citroen dealer and they told that it might be possible that new telephones with the newest software are not able to work correctly with the carkit.
I have a Wizard (I think a G3) with Octavoi 9.2 on it, IPL/ SPL 3.08 and Radio: 2.71.11.
Hi,
same car and same problem here.
It seems worked with WM5 and problem showed after upgrading to WM6.
Calling/answering from car controls ends with total silence most times.
I've noticed that if a call is answered from phone it works most times.
Also car phonebook seems support only latin characters and any contacts with non-latin ones(cyrillic in my case) do not appear on car.
Would appreciate any suggestions/solution to above problems.
Hi,
I have same problem, with same car! with TNT wm6 Roms!
With new TNT 6.1 did not try yet...
Now I have Slim wm6.1 ROM and no problem! With NTS wm6 rom not problem too... works fine!

HTC Cruise don’t work with my Bluetooth carkit (parrot).

Hi There,
I have a HTC Cruise (dutch) and a Parrot 3200 LS-Color bluetooth carkit.
My carkit sees my HTC and I can sync my address book but when I receive a call ore when I want to call it doesn’t work right. I have to put the telephone to my ear again. The speakers en mic in my car don’t work.
Can any one help?
Thanks,
marco
update your carkit
Are you sure that you are on the best firmware for your car kit?
I have a diffrent parrot car kit (mk6000), and all my pb was solved by: going to the last parrot firmware, and after updating my phone to WM6.1 (not sure that this second is necessary or not)
Houms
I have a Parrot CK 3100
Version 4.16
I have also HTC TC with WM6 original
Every think work fine
You can try the jetware bluetooth extension.
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
It solved some problems with my parrot ck300 evolution.
\\Yoshi
My Parrot works fine with Polaris
Parrot 3100 working fine with Polaris here too.
I had posted my experiences with the new firmware update here:
http://www.parrot.com/forums/usa/viewtopic.php?id=1487
Hope that this helps
T
imo the parrot with the color screen is a waist of money, ck3100 is also more supported ! My polaris works flawlessy with my ck3100.
My Polaris works near fine with the CK3100, except the disturbing phantom call when your last call was not picked up...
The other minor problem is that the different numbers of one contact are shown separated (/H /W /M...) Does anybody know if it possible to show all together?
Parrot have a 4.17 update out.Try flashing your ck3100.
Canaan said:
Parrot have a 4.17 update out.Try flashing your ck3100.
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Already flashed, but no changes.
grouchomrx said:
My Polaris works near fine with the CK3100, except the disturbing phantom call when your last call was not picked up...
The other minor problem is that the different numbers of one contact are shown separated (/H /W /M...) Does anybody know if it possible to show all together?
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There is a prog on Parrot's website the creates a vCard of all your contacts in outlook this file is then sent to the CK3100 from your phone and all of you contacts are saved in the bluetooth kit.
I don't think the phone auto syncs these contacts though
JJ
Hi Guys,
I don't want to be rude, but the thread starter asks for a solution to his problem not a list of parrots which do work with the touch cruise. Not really helpful according to me :s.
Futhermore, I am also having a lot of problems with the Touch Cruise with the Parrot 3200LS Color. I installed the jetware bluetooth extension, which solved 99% of my problems.
The 1% left is disconnecting a phone call. If I push the red button on the Parrot device, the call is not disconnected. I have to push the red button on my phone to end the call, but still the 3200LS thinks the call is still going on. I have to pull the plug to reset the 3200 LS. I already flashed the parrot with the latest firmware.
Anyone any useful pointers?
Parrot and TC
Hi there!
I don't know about you guys, but for me it's simple, for HTC touch, and for TC with my parrot CK v3.13 here's what i do:
- to be shore, you reset your parrot (red + green buttons, then you hear "please pair device", and only with first pairing),
- turn on your TC's BT, go to settings/BT, Add new device (Mode - visible), and when parrot asks for code, it's 1234, as i recall.
- now you are paired, and when you enter in your car only thing you have to do is to turn on TC's BT, pairing will be authomatic.
this works for me, without any problems...
Hope this helps
Bye
Problems with the HTC and the Parrot sync.
I have an HTC polaris but I cant sync with the Parrot 3100, because allways says that the code or the connection fail. anyone can Help me to sync this 2 ???
Thanks
Portugal HTC user!!!

Car Kit Bluetooth Performance

Whenever I sync my Touch Cruise in the car (BMW) the interface lags! For example pressing the phone button on the steering wheel takes forever to pull up the phone menu on the car display. Also during a call if I press the hang up button on the steering wheel, it doesn't hang up right away. I have to keep pressing it multiple times. The actual sound quality through the car speakers is fine and the pairing is very quick so no problems there.
Is this a specific problem between the car and the phone? The car handles other bluetooth phones very well, such as the ahem..iPhone. The response when hitting the steering wheel buttons is instantaneous.
I currently have udk Syrius R8 Beta2 with radio 1.59.46.12. I read in one of the other forums on xda that it has something to do with TouchFLO. I disabled the Manila TouchFLO, turned off S2U2, still no luck. Any ideas?
I have similar problems with my XDA Orbit2 with WM6.1 and with my Ignito/Diamond with WM6.1 both with my Peugeot car BT and with Motorola BT headset.
An incoming call sometimes takes 10secs for the audio to be re-routed, PITA
I also found that if I'm running Navigon 6 and an incoming call gets picked up by the car BT then Navigon (or any other GPS app like GPSCycleComputer) gets screwed, the internal GPS gets disconnected.
I'm suspicious that the problem is due to the on chip BT and GPS.
My XDA Orbit (1) with WM6.0 doesn't have the same problem but of course it also has a seperate SirfstarIII GPS.
So, who knows, it could be WM6.1 or it could be the Qualcomm integrated chipset?
I'd like to re-install the original Orbit2 WM6.0 to see if that makes a difference but that's not completely simple as there is no full (official) O2 WM6 file available (AFAIK)
Yeah it's pretty annoying. I assume the udk ROM that I have has all the bluetooth patches, etc. I know other phones don't have this issue, so I'm hesitant to say it's the BMW bluetooth firmware. Something is laggy about the device when paired. I must say though I've never tried pairing it to a BT headset so I wonder what that will be like.
No one else having bluetooth performance issues with their car's built in Bluetooth system?
I have carkit trouble, but don't know why.
My problem is as followed:
I Drive a Renault Scenic with a Carminat Navigation System including Bluetooth Carkit
When I connect my HTC TC Everybody complains that quality is poor. Reception is louzy etc.
When I connect my HTC TD2 the problem dowsn't exist.
When I connect my Samsung Omnia the problem doens't exist ( but other problems in the phone appear)
When I connect my Nokia N73 with the current software I have a lot of problems ( even other then with the HTC )
When I connect my Nokia N73 with an old version of the software I have no problems...
All phones run the stock ROMS ( Windows Mobile 6.1 Pro ) / original Software. I first thought It might be a carkit problem, but as some phones work and others don't I tent to believe that it is a ROM problem (Maybe radio not good)
Is it possible to update the bluetooth driver / firmware?
Problem with HTC TC could be in radio driver.
But since there are problems with other devices, it could be problem with Carminat. You should check with Renault is there software update for it.
But first check if those phones are on Carminat's compatibility list...
The strange thing is that I have the problem with the nokia N73 when the software of the phone is higher then 2.69
According to Renault all Windows Mobile devices are supported / compatible.
I think it is the BT driver or Firmware. But don't know if it is possible to upgrade this to a newer version. Or to test this?
Yes,
My Parrot Mki 9100 works perfectly for phone calls, but doesn't play GPS navigation audio instructions.
Anyone know waht is wrong?
speedyb said:
The strange thing is that I have the problem with the nokia N73 when the software of the phone is higher then 2.69
According to Renault all Windows Mobile devices are supported / compatible.
I think it is the BT driver or Firmware. But don't know if it is possible to upgrade this to a newer version. Or to test this?
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Have an appointment at the car deakership on Tuesday to see if there is an update or quickfix...
I still suspect the TC though
BT, GPS and GSM are controlled by radio driver.
Please check version, since even stock ROMs use different drivers.
So far, my version is flawless...
Polaris WM 6.1 WWE official (3.13.405.0 WWE 2008-08-21; Radio 1.59.42.15; Protocol 25.85.30.07H)
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This is the same version I am using....
hi,
I have have quite some problems with BT connection with same radio driver see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=570153
I sent it for fixing to the dealer.
Hope a solution.
Went to the car dealer today. They updated the software and modified the microphone volume (lowered it) and the sound quality is improved.
At the car dealer they told me that they have a lot of issues with HTC phones in combination with the different carkits, although the newer phones have less problems. There is a new software upcoming before the end of the year which should solve more problems. but for now the problem is less....
I figured out why (but not the underlying cause) of the sluggishness when the phone is paired to the car. My phone shows very high CPU usage (90%) with services.exe when I look in task manager when the phone is paired. I noticed that using the actual device is sluggish, even just typing up a text. I don't know why that is. The moment I turned off bluetooth, it was back to normal.
Any idea what could be causing that?
Maybe radio driver...
I had such problem when I was on WM 6.0, but it was caused by failing radio chip...

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