How the hell the chineses get this fabulous rom MAMBOJAMBO versions?
http://www.brsbox.com/filebox/down/fc/b65ce1d84c96efc4b36b37bf399b2afb/rand/1560472572
WM6.1 20815 Universal
at this speed, they will have the wm7 before microsoft finish ( kidding).
But really, how they do it, from where they get this crazy versions?
Why they close this roms just for chinese in a way just a BIG VODOO can dump the imagefs.bin? and just after some months we that spend 2h to understand one ideogram can have to?
:-(
Have you tested already?
Any screenshots?
i wanna give it a try tonight but its gunna take me 3 hrs to dl hopefully someone can do it faster
i wonder if this is for G3 or G4.. downloading and testing.. comments later..
Damn it!
Fast, very fast compilation on standard CPU speed.
WM 6.1 Professional, CE 5.2.20815 20815.1.4.0
Beautyfull icons,
stable, GPRS, Wi-Fi (WPA-PSK2) ok. Included MMS Composer 5.0.27.35, WMP 10.3 B20748, Camera 3.0 B25626
Is it in chinese? Can we understand anything?
Ooop! relly fast, pretty icons etc.
but only chinese
wondering if we can have this damn thing in WWE
nfbarata said:
Is it in chinese? Can we understand anything?
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All in chinese, but partialy understandable (arrangement identical as in english WWE)
What do me AFRAID, is, if i start to search more its possible to find more newer version, i find about 209xx versions for dopodop900 .
more crazy is, if you read at chinese forums, this rom have one, 2 months. WE ARE SLOW in ocident
soon they will release windows 8 when ever microsoft started to work in that.
Screenshots please
F_R_I_T_Z said:
How the hell the chineses get this fabulous rom MAMBOJAMBO versions?
http://www.brsbox.com/filebox/down/fc/b65ce1d84c96efc4b36b37bf399b2afb/rand/1560472572
WM6.1 20815 Universal
at this speed, they will have the wm7 before microsoft finish ( kidding).
But really, how they do it, from where they get this crazy versions?
Why they close this roms just for chinese in a way just a BIG VODOO can dump the imagefs.bin? and just after some months we that spend 2h to understand one ideogram can have to?
:-(
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this rom not real 20815 was HEX from 20738
F_R_I_T_Z said:
What do me AFRAID, is, if i start to search more its possible to find more newer version, i find about 209xx versions for dopodop900 .
more crazy is, if you read at chinese forums, this rom have one, 2 months. WE ARE SLOW in ocident
soon they will release windows 8 when ever microsoft started to work in that.
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209xx also HEX , there also had 20777 , 20759...etc real version was 20758
mwang said:
209xx also HEX , there also had 20777 , 20759...etc real version was 20758
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So, it's a fake?
Jmp_3f8h said:
So, it's a fake?
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It's a working rom, with old build
Everyone, i know that, about to be hex.
first thing i look inside a rom was dsm, certificate dates and other things..
( the only ROMS versions i have doubts are 20755 and 20753 seems at last in part real.
But i do this posts in a provocative way.
More about this **** crippling in imagefs, in nk.nbf they are doing to "PROTECT THEIR WORK" ( GUESS WHEN MICROSOFT WILL PROTECT THEeir WORK SAME WAY PLUS LAWYERS AND OTHER THINGS) FROM OUR ( OR SENYOR MEMBERS REALLY DO THE HARD JOB) reENGINEERING.
If they want cript some icons, or programs is inside ok.. programs, programs codes, etc. belongs who made.
BUT .RGUS, DSM, XIP, SYS, STANDARD OEMS? they are protecting WHAT FROM WHO? THIS BELONGS MICROSFT/HTC NOT THIS PERSONS. THE KNOWLEDGEMENT TO USE THIS WAS SPREAD AROUND FOR PERSONS THAT REALLY HAVE THE SPIRIT OF LEARN AND SHARE LEARN. ( BIG HUHAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa FOR THIS GUYS, LIVE IN MY HEART, HAVE MY SUPPORT, HAVE MY FRIENDSHIP).
HOW CLOSED WE BECOME TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ( AGAIN) A SINGLE THING FROM OUR DEVICES JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE SPEND 10 DAYS DISCOVERING AND DINT WANT TO SHARE THE DISCOVER. IF this do they fell better, stay with information not release something that use this. if you have a new info and release something with this but dont give to the COMMUNITY or share this for other, THEY are using this just to show HOG GOOD they are in detriment others and how BIG THE EGO IS. ( when i say information is drivers, registry things and similars informations for our unis, not OU CODE PROGRAMS and this like)
How can be or happens if Tovalds start hide the GIT codes, because he spend hours working in a single piece of kernel code and lather just wrote in blog, now this work and say everyone, who. no, iam not releasing this, iam protecting my work. discover by yourself or way someday i release this.
BESIDES some devices forums still active a lot, look around, XDA forum is dying for some devices, ( UNIVERSAL ONE), just because A KIND of envy, not share knowledge ( iam not speaking CODES OR PROGRAMS).
PDAVIET release their roms without RGUS, chinese do thing in chinese for chinese in chineses sites that now need to be write in chinese and levitated by chinese because XDA guys stolen her jobs ( Who? i read this a lot some CHINESES sites).
I hate to live in a world where IAM BETTER YOU BECAUSE I SPEAK THIS OR IAM FROM THERE. ( DAMN HITLER w. BUSH and all MA'FIAA" and all "RED BOOKS" GODS GOVERNMENT that spread this)
This do me upset, ****...
and about what iam speaking... if someone write hoo, and what you do for community?
Soon, WITH the poorly SUPPORT i have. iam to release a kind of kitchen for our unis. Not new at side of discovery, not new at side of drivers. Using the well know tools.
But more to do new peoples, play with this things, do stupid obvious question and maybe after some time this NOT MORE stupid person was attracted by play with this, write something or do a BRILLIANT new discover for us.
but at last iam trying to put a fresh air here.. not closing forums with languages or cript things...
Well, was just this i have wish of speak..
A LITTLE EDIT..
About this crazy new numbers versions.
for US, UNIVERSAL, if no one start to try port THINGS REALLY MATTER, like OEM PACKAGES, DRIVERS ( like phonesettings from newer devices).
just upper XIP/SYS with new numbers will show GREAT, but it is something cosmetic in most part..
What matter is someone do a HELL HACK in XIP to speed bost our devices, or MERGE all PIECES of RAM IN ONE I MEAN FLASH DISK AND STORAGE), DO A HELL HACK in OUR GSM DRIVER TO EVEN GET THE BASIC ENGINNER MODE WORK and we have use of cell towercode. DO A CRAZY MOD IN OUR BT DEVICES to become CRAZY NEW.. DO A MORE THAN CRAZY CRAZY VODOO and besides upgrade 128 MEGS but 256megs. PORT THE CRAZY DRIVERS FROM NEWER DEVICES TO TAKE ANY KIND OF ADVANTAGE FOR OUR UNIS, SAME NOT HAVE NEW AWESOME GPU/OMAP/AT/NVIDIA CHIPSET INSTRUCTION.
So then will have something NEW, not just VERSIONATE NUMBERS.
Huu.. iam more THIN now i put oustise what i have wish of speak...
F_R_I_T_Z said:
Everyone, i know that, about to be hex.
first thing i look inside a rom was dsm, certificate dates and other things..
( the only ROMS versions i have doubts are 20755 and 20753 seems at last in part real.
But i do this posts in a provocative way.
More about this **** crippling in imagefs, in nk.nbf they are doing to "PROTECT THEIR WORK" ( GUESS WHEN MICROSOFT WILL PROTECT THEeir WORK SAME WAY PLUS LAWYERS AND OTHER THINGS) FROM OUR ( OR SENYOR MEMBERS REALLY DO THE HARD JOB) reENGINEERING.
If they want cript some icons, or programs is inside ok.. programs, programs codes, etc. belongs who made.
BUT .RGUS, DSM, XIP, SYS, STANDARD OEMS? they are protecting WHAT FROM WHO? THIS BELONGS MICROSFT/HTC NOT THIS PERSONS. THE KNOWLEDGEMENT TO USE THIS WAS SPREAD AROUND FOR PERSONS THAT REALLY HAVE THE SPIRIT OF LEARN AND SHARE LEARN. ( BIG HUHAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa FOR THIS GUYS, LIVE IN MY HEART, HAVE MY SUPPORT, HAVE MY FRIENDSHIP).
HOW CLOSED WE BECOME TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ( AGAIN) A SINGLE THING FROM OUR DEVICES JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE SPEND 10 DAYS DISCOVERING AND DINT WANT TO SHARE THE DISCOVER. IF this do they fell better, stay with information not release something that use this. if you have a new info and release something with this but dont give to the COMMUNITY or share this for other, THEY are using this just to show HOG GOOD they are in detriment others and how BIG THE EGO IS. ( when i say information is drivers, registry things and similars informations for our unis, not OU CODE PROGRAMS and this like)
How can be or happens if Tovalds start hide the GIT codes, because he spend hours working in a single piece of kernel code and lather just wrote in blog, now this work and say everyone, who. no, iam not releasing this, iam protecting my work. discover by yourself or way someday i release this.
BESIDES some devices forums still active a lot, look around, XDA forum is dying for some devices, ( UNIVERSAL ONE), just because A KIND of envy, not share knowledge ( iam not speaking CODES OR PROGRAMS).
PDAVIET release their roms without RGUS, chinese do thing in chinese for chinese in chineses sites that now need to be write in chinese and levitated by chinese because XDA guys stolen her jobs ( Who? i read this a lot some CHINESES sites).
I hate to live in a world where IAM BETTER YOU BECAUSE I SPEAK THIS OR IAM FROM THERE. ( DAMN HITLER w. BUSH and all MA'FIAA" and all "RED BOOKS" GODS GOVERNMENT that spread this)
This do me upset, ****...
and about what iam speaking... if someone write hoo, and what you do for community?
Soon, WITH the poorly SUPPORT i have. iam to release a kind of kitchen for our unis. Not new at side of discovery, not new at side of drivers. Using the well know tools.
But more to do new peoples, play with this things, do stupid obvious question and maybe after some time this NOT MORE stupid person was attracted by play with this, write something or do a BRILLIANT new discover for us.
but at last iam trying to put a fresh air here.. not closing forums with languages or cript things...
Well, was just this i have wish of speak..
A LITTLE EDIT..
About this crazy new numbers versions.
for US, UNIVERSAL, if no one start to try port THINGS REALLY MATTER, like OEM PACKAGES, DRIVERS ( like phonesettings from newer devices).
just upper XIP/SYS with new numbers will show GREAT, but it is something cosmetic in most part..
What matter is someone do a HELL HACK in XIP to speed bost our devices, or MERGE all PIECES of RAM IN ONE I MEAN FLASH DISK AND STORAGE), DO A HELL HACK in OUR GSM DRIVER TO EVEN GET THE BASIC ENGINNER MODE WORK and we have use of cell towercode. DO A CRAZY MOD IN OUR BT DEVICES to become CRAZY NEW.. DO A MORE THAN CRAZY CRAZY VODOO and besides upgrade 128 MEGS but 256megs. PORT THE CRAZY DRIVERS FROM NEWER DEVICES TO TAKE ANY KIND OF ADVANTAGE FOR OUR UNIS, SAME NOT HAVE NEW AWESOME GPU/OMAP/AT/NVIDIA CHIPSET INSTRUCTION.
So then will have something NEW, not just VERSIONATE NUMBERS.
Huu.. iam more THIN now i put oustise what i have wish of speak...
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Understanding your point , the problem came from many cookers who dump rom and recooked never mention base rom came from where , special PDAVIET,some of us working hard to get new build working with old devices but what we got ? nothing , we can share with our work but who care ? from long time ago darkforcesteam release some of build without protection after three days that build all of place ( which I release 5 different languages) , did they said base rom came from DFT ? no , nothing at all , seems thier work and ask for donation , we never ask for donation , we are working for free but even a little be "Thank your hard work" no one want to say that's why we start add protection,we was here long enough and help this COMMUNITY,
if you can read Chinese see here http://www.darkforcesteam.com/showthread.php?t=351, we will release 20758 for Uni WWE/CHT next week , of couse will be had protection.
see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436821 does he mention where base rom from ? 20758 was we working a month to got that .
mwang
I already know your viewpoint and from other persons about this to.
I already have work stolen and even fired after this and the company used my work with another name( under justice now )..
But its the risk of all this.
Again.. imaginate if Linus Tovalds stop the kernel just because companies use some code inside a program or already the entire KERNEL and receive BIG MONEY for that. ( iam speaking REALLY BIG MONEY and this really happens all time).
The spirit of SHARE sometimes need to be little more than that.
when i start something i think. Humm, iam doing this for money, for personal use, to hobby or for GLORY?
If iam doing something for money. and someone use my work. Its matter of justice. I NEED RECEIVE FOR THIS...
If iam doing this for fun, hoby.. damn.. the time i spend trying to understand something or do work was the cool point of all, someone used this and never speak about me? so.. problem of this person. I know the risk of do something and turn public. who know what i do, is enough to do BETTER what was better ( the CHALLENGE by itself).
If iam doing this for personal use ( to prof myself iam GOOD A LOT), i even mentioned this to someone.
If iam doing something for GLORY THEN, of course i want everyone speak my name... but is not usual in my formation. Because this i become sad..
And same you can look about this here at xda forum.
from a time to now. besides some devices still very active.. others are failing down ( not because are old), but because the refuse of what EXIST and was shared sometime not be around any more. BECOME HARD.
Of course i can search and learn like who discover first time..
but reinvent the reinvented wheel. its loose time. Its put a happiness in develop something UTILE, in the sadness of doing something standard. so i close my knowledge and another one come to try to, start everything again.
What we need to know is for what purpose we are doing what we are doing. if this is for money, you are correct in protect your work and be sad and even do more things to protect this. but if it is for FUN? get something " RE ENGINE" put to work better.. huuu... lets to do it better then, everyone.. OPEN...
**** who get this use and not mention who made staling the work or even putting at EBAY ( already find it at ebay) . GOOD JOB FOR this person.. hope
the best friend of him do the same with the her wife .
My intent writhing this things is not to FLAME anything, but share a VIEW POINT. other persons do it to.. and maybe the GOODNESS from TOOLS AND PORTS look we are here to, the small ones.., that like to try play and have funn to..( the fun is not just write the rom to device, but play with the rom) and maybe one day EVEN BECOME A A GOD and start to contribute with REAL Things to community.
Another thing. Already is working to close this way the roms?
Because from a time to now after close the roms and turn everything more hard to be OFFICIAL RELEASED HERE. seems chinese/RUSSIANS/BRAZILIANS sites started to spread more fast PSEUDO PORTS and "STOLE" the works more fast. Because become in hands of so little. And worst persopn taht everyone go to search in another place, like a do..
now closing same the WRITHED knowlled by restricting by language in a WAY THE BAD GUYS FROM XDA stolen something.
Dont know about this new version yours but is freely know that already have roms with this versions from whre BAD OR GOOD PORTED JUSTT REBRANDED. but they are there. and closing your rom or not. They will release a rom and not speak from where come.
Look iam not chilling here about TOOLS, codes, and this things. But at last sources from WHERE get this? or hoo, this work fine.. can you speak how you do it? iam not asking to give everything from your work. but informations.. BASE to another one to start to from where you are or at last to HAVE THE SAME CONCLUSION you have.
I respect a lot darkforceteam work.., pdaviet and others, guys like , buzz, toff, Beepe, dtroy, laurentius, erviu, beast, luca and many many others ( the only come now in my mind, iam not excluding no one).. what they do was amazing..
BIG HUHAAAAAAAA EVERYONE FOR THIS GUYSSSSS
but now to havA NEW NAME in OLIMPUS, the poor person will need to start everything again.. and then some day to be at the same level, this ones are today.
AND THIS IS SAD
wish if i have HOW ( i mean time and money) to create a kind of REPOSITORY for what we discover here ( since we cant store the microsoft files from roms, for law force).
A place where my discover, or my idea, or my tool CAN BE THE START for a FUN of other persons not the GOAL for this person.
Again mwang the same way you become SAD when bad things happens with the roms from your work. i become SAD with what happens. different side from the PROBLEM with different view point.
And i write this not to FLAME but to EXPOSE my FEELING the same way you cript your roms to expose your.
Its good to talk about this. not a bad thing.. IDEAS ARE NEVER BAD, THEY BECOME BAD JUST WHEN IMPOSED and more we talk about more good things can happens. ( or a WORD WAR OF COURSE, kidding )
so!!
IT IS..
BIG HUHAA FOR YU TO
F_R_I_T_Z said:
mwang
I already know your viewpoint and from other persons about this to.
I already have work stolen and even fired after this and the company used my work with another name( under justice now )..
But its the risk of all this.
Again.. imaginate if Linus Tovalds stop the kernel just because companies use some code inside a program or already the entire KERNEL and receive BIG MONEY for that. ( iam speaking REALLY BIG MONEY and this really happens all time).
The spirit of SHARE sometimes need to be little more than that.
when i start something i think. Humm, iam doing this for money, for personal use, to hobby or for GLORY?
If iam doing something for money. and someone use my work. Its matter of justice. I NEED RECEIVE FOR THIS...
If iam doing this for fun, hoby.. damn.. the time i spend trying to understand something or do work was the cool point of all, someone used this and never speak about me? so.. problem of this person. I know the risk of do something and turn public. who know what i do, is enough to do BETTER what was better ( the CHALLENGE by itself).
If iam doing this for personal use ( to prof myself iam GOOD A LOT), i even mentioned this to someone.
If iam doing something for GLORY THEN, of course i want everyone speak my name... but is not usual in my formation. Because this i become sad..
And same you can look about this here at xda forum.
from a time to now. besides some devices still very active.. others are failing down ( not because are old), but because the refuse of what EXIST and was shared sometime not be around any more. BECOME HARD.
Of course i can search and learn like who discover first time..
but reinvent the reinvented wheel. its loose time. Its put a happiness in develop something UTILE, in the sadness of doing something standard. so i close my knowledge and another one come to try to, start everything again.
What we need to know is for what purpose we are doing what we are doing. if this is for money, you are correct in protect your work and be sad and even do more things to protect this. but if it is for FUN? get something " RE ENGINE" put to work better.. huuu... lets to do it better then, everyone.. OPEN...
**** who get this use and not mention who made staling the work or even putting at EBAY ( already find it at ebay) . GOOD JOB FOR this person.. hope
the best friend of him do the same with the her wife .
My intent writhing this things is not to FLAME anything, but share a VIEW POINT. other persons do it to.. and maybe the GOODNESS from TOOLS AND PORTS look we are here to, the small ones.., that like to try play and have funn to..( the fun is not just write the rom to device, but play with the rom) and maybe one day EVEN BECOME A A GOD and start to contribute with REAL Things to community.
Another thing. Already is working to close this way the roms?
Because from a time to now after close the roms and turn everything more hard to be OFFICIAL RELEASED HERE. seems chinese/RUSSIANS/BRAZILIANS sites started to spread more fast PSEUDO PORTS and "STOLE" the works more fast. Because become in hands of so little. And worst persopn taht everyone go to search in another place, like a do..
now closing same the WRITHED knowlled by restricting by language in a WAY THE BAD GUYS FROM XDA stolen something.
Dont know about this new version yours but is freely know that already have roms with this versions from whre BAD OR GOOD PORTED JUSTT REBRANDED. but they are there. and closing your rom or not. They will release a rom and not speak from where come.
Look iam not chilling here about TOOLS, codes, and this things. But at last sources from WHERE get this? or hoo, this work fine.. can you speak how you do it? iam not asking to give everything from your work. but informations.. BASE to another one to start to from where you are or at last to HAVE THE SAME CONCLUSION you have.
I respect a lot darkforceteam work.., pdaviet and others, guys like , buzz, toff, Beepe, dtroy, laurentius, erviu, beast, luca and many many others ( the only come now in my mind, iam not excluding no one).. what they do was amazing..
BIG HUHAAAAAAAA EVERYONE FOR THIS GUYSSSSS
but now to havA NEW NAME in OLIMPUS, the poor person will need to start everything again.. and then some day to be at the same level, this ones are today.
AND THIS IS SAD
wish if i have HOW ( i mean time and money) to create a kind of REPOSITORY for what we discover here ( since we cant store the microsoft files from roms, for law force).
A place where my discover, or my idea, or my tool CAN BE THE START for a FUN of other persons not the GOAL for this person.
Again mwang the same way you become SAD when bad things happens with the roms from your work. i become SAD with what happens. different side from the PROBLEM with different view point.
And i write this not to FLAME but to EXPOSE my FEELING the same way you cript your roms to expose your.
Its good to talk about this. not a bad thing.. IDEAS ARE NEVER BAD, THEY BECOME BAD JUST WHEN IMPOSED and more we talk about more good things can happens. ( or a WORD WAR OF COURSE, kidding )
so!!
IT IS..
BIG HUHAA FOR YU TO
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nice post start like you as I said before we will release WWE version next week , BTW we play rom for fun not for money , even our forum not ask for donation and no AD in there, we knew its risk to post new build rom maybe one day we all been ask close it by "BIG GUY" and knew some "BIG GUY" was watch us .
hey guys,
this is really how things in this world are.
You do something for the people and other people will sometimes not even thank you, eventually they will steal your hard work and brand it under their name.
We have to live with that. That's how it works.
I know very good, how much time mwang and team invested into these ROMs. And it's not that easy to port the whole **** for old device like UNI is.
So as you said above FRITZ, before one even starts to do something, he must be clear about "why i am doing this?" question.
Anyway, the true ROMs for UNI are delivered by DarkForcesTeam. Everything else is recooked stuff.
All cookers should however mention, where they get the original from (as we used to do back in the good times) and give credits to original.
That will make everyone happy.
take care
buzz
WAW buzz_lightyear in my post. ( PLEASE BUZZ NEVE EVER CLOSE YR SITE OR WE UNIVERSAL USERS BECOME ORPHANS, its like loose DAD AND MUM AT SAME TIME
BIG HUHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DOUBLED YOU
BIG HUHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This become serious..
Was not my intent FLAME NOTHING.
By the way...
What buzz write about everyone come back old days, will not happens. more easy apple leave the source CODE OR IPHONE ( more than microsoft from windows). GOOGLE ALREADY SPEAK EVERYONE ANDROID IS NOTOPEN SOURCE AND FREE, BUT THE ANDROID KERNEL IT IS (SO JUST KERNEL not so much by the way). AND ME WIN LOTTERY AND BECOME RICH MOUNTING A BIG MEGA REPOSITORY FOR OUR KNOWLED AND CONTRACT MANY MANY LAWYERS TO PROTECT US FROM BIG BROTHERS..
AGAIN ABOUT STOLEN WORK..
WELL, why not in place cript something.. BRAND SOMETHING? PUT WAHTERMARKS.
starting by the screens, lather HEX names in codes and go on?
Soo, to get rid of this the STOLEN GUY will need to learn what you do very well. and at this point will start contribute to. more one looking a CODE mean LESS ERROR IN A CODE and MORE IDEAS COMMING. and even YU STOLEN IDEAS FROM THIS PERSONS.
When you port this crazy roms for US from, more crazy sources ( maybe a direct link with GOD?) .. PUT WHATERMARK IN EVERYTHING possible..
and let us poor guys ( this poor was for good now not bad).. get ride of this.. do WE HAVE WORK TO. STOLE TO STOLE, LET THIS be more hard for who do it, and put fun for who want to learn..and get rgus, modules and everything to play around.
and if someone start sell the rom at EBAY or post in sites without source , post a BIG **** gif in this place and con claim all GOOD GUYS KNOW ABOUT HARD WORK do it to.. ( in ebay case, just send to micro****.. and HTChit) they do the hard work, better WE DO.. ALREADY HAPPENS A CASE AT Brazilian EBAY, the guy was ****ed by microsoft and what i read from judical papers, micro**** even touch xda site name besides guy speak a lot about the site). MICRO**** in ow way like us..
Well.
I it is.. ( FOR NOW
AGAIN
BIGG HUHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BUZZZZ
HUHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Greetings,
this is a new rom from pda mobiz, anybody tried it. ITS V5.
clickhere to get it.
Thanks
samy.3660 said:
Greetings,
this is a new rom from pda mobiz, anybody tried it. ITS V5.
clickhere to get it.
Thanks
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lot of us have flashed our devices at least 10 times in the last month. can you provide us more details about this rom, I'm getting tired of wm6 roms.
Thats the same problem with me!!
i think thats problem with everyone we need to settle down but how long ???? i hoop that someone has two device and will test it and provide us with more information
It's been a while i'm using mun-rus WM6 which it's rom build version is 17xxxx and it's fine,all of other ROMs are 15xxxx build and don't have much different in performance and types of bugs.
Can someone post the MS build number from the ROM?
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Can someone post the MS build number from the ROM?
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It's the same as V1 to now, it's just improved with some reg fixes, other splash-screen and some progs.
It's not bad, loaded with stuff, ringtones, todaythemes etc.
It's a ROM for the lazy people, like me, although I'm using now the mUn's fixed version which is good..
Vilem said:
It's the same as V1 to now, it's just improved with some reg fixes, other splash-screen and some progs.
It's not bad, loaded with stuff, ringtones, todaythemes etc.
It's a ROM for the lazy people, like me, although I'm using now the mUn's fixed version which is good..
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Im still working on the ultimate fixed version of mUn's rom. Getting a little frustrating. LOL
Yeah that's funny, "tired of WM6 ROMs"
I flashed V.5 like 2 days ago and there's very little info on changes, i haven't seen any..beside Ferrari thing
what i noticed stuff like MMS composer, Voice dial (or voice commander) biuld's are different(older) comparing to mUn's
And there REALLY Should be some sort of guide/comparison for people who honour and appreciate work of all cookers out there, but ..just want to use SOLID Rom. knowing the differences, and having them presented clearly in a spreadsheet comparison would be most helpful.
Because there are guys wanting ALL The latest, and MOST STABLE.
At present WM6 have some serious flaws but only to people who happen to use WiFi, and MMS's(which is about 80% od wizard owners ; ) ) alot. So choosing right rom "distribution" now is next to IMPOSSIBLE, less choosing "stable" one.
Maybe "wiki" ought to serve this purpose, thus far we are stuck with "well known" cooker names producing unstable roms.
As much as i would like to thank all cookers, and community of Wizard experts, i am stuck with finding out more and more suprises after flashing each new rom distro.
Now Farias' suprised me by not being able to use contacts from sim card ..
Beside comparison of components numbers(like rom built date, prog. ver.) there should be shor explanation as of why cooker have chosen to include older, or newer version of specific soft., and next column : possible problems encountered by users..
I know that if i talk so much i should do it myself : ),
but short on time, and knowledge of figuring as to what format, type of database would be needed for "central Repository", or "future/bug" tracking wiki..
I think that it could help out rom cooks(ers: )) or us. When compiling they could make choice based on this centrall rep. of futures/problems of certain prog. versions: like battery plugin.. beta 2, or beta 3, what difference,
now it takes several hours to find out diffs., possible problems, and make concious choice: with least risk as to what WE want (in terms of functionality) and whether stability is at premium to us.
I don't agree
If you cannot do simple registry changes to show sim-contacts or cannot configure MMS you don't want to update your ROM.
Because if you cannot find the solution in this forum you probably cannot find the solution when you brick your phone.
I think this forum is for people with a bit more interest than the average phone-owner.
And in the end there is always somebody prepared to help.
I don't agree either.
It's not the forum's responsibility to rate and/or categorize each rom as it comes out. The threads for each rom or additional threads where users place their experiences with these roms.
Some chefs create basic stable roms, some stable with loads of ram, some super-fast with very little ram & etc. You choose the rom that works for you. Is there a best rom...NO; what counts is what you want and works for you.
If you just want what manufacturers give you, then you're in the wrong place.
Flashing these roms are not a right....it's a priveledge!!!
Ok guys,
Thanks, you've got some good points, i hope you can see where i am comming from..
1. it is fact that it IS A Privilege, and to that I AM gratefull that i have right to be using it.
2. i think there is no point in wasting of time researching over and over The SAME THINGS.., that i've seen for last year.
You(forum) can either give to users something more clear, or make them seek info over and over again, causing for stupid questions to arise, when someone may not have time to read through 64 pages of...\
and that's just one thread...
3.would it hurt to spend less than 5 hours doing research, and not finding what you originally intended, of ... oh well, "time is money, so don't waste it honey"
4. ok, so it is "simple" registry edit to fix sim card not being read by wm6 contacts app. It's just that it is basic funcionality, and when it comes to "names" it shouldn't happen, I believe that most of us would be glad to beta test them for our gurus' and reprizent' Xda-DEV cookers to the world RIGHT! Yo,
5. MMS .. well, when all config is right, and i have narrowed it down to radio rom version in "synchronisation error" deal, it's hard not to be average user, or even neglecting one, when You YOURSELF are unableto fix radio rom..
less even M$oft ain't touching many problems..
is WAITING, and Wa$ting of time a solution for you? ... digging through pile of wm6 roms to find one with LEAST Errors../ after which to be left out without basic functionality expected from phone..
i think comparisons and central database would make 4 all of us one nifty time/nerve saving future..
and just so it won't look like i am NOt appreciating my privileges i am contributing to community in a meanwhile(maybe before i cook my own../ or rather uncook, ever since heat processing makes it all tasteless and leaving us with all but one option to do: use spices, and salt..
I'd like to help to to make a RAW, FRESH ROM, call it Vanille, clean. Giving some constructive feedback, helping guys like mUn, and other nottoosmart guys alike..
( ;; ) )
well, cheers to all yall!
It seems this rom isnt as popular as the others.....its the nature of the beast with roms though.
lolek5 said:
Ok guys,
Thanks, you've got some good points, i hope you can see where i am comming from..
1. it is fact that it IS A Privilege, and to that I AM gratefull that i have right to be using it.
2. i think there is no point in wasting of time researching over and over The SAME THINGS.., that i've seen for last year.
You(forum) can either give to users something more clear, or make them seek info over and over again, causing for stupid questions to arise, when someone may not have time to read through 64 pages of...\
and that's just one thread...
3.would it hurt to spend less than 5 hours doing research, and not finding what you originally intended, of ... oh well, "time is money, so don't waste it honey"
4. ok, so it is "simple" registry edit to fix sim card not being read by wm6 contacts app. It's just that it is basic funcionality, and when it comes to "names" it shouldn't happen, I believe that most of us would be glad to beta test them for our gurus' and reprizent' Xda-DEV cookers to the world RIGHT! Yo,
5. MMS .. well, when all config is right, and i have narrowed it down to radio rom version in "synchronisation error" deal, it's hard not to be average user, or even neglecting one, when You YOURSELF are unableto fix radio rom..
less even M$oft ain't touching many problems..
is WAITING, and Wa$ting of time a solution for you? ... digging through pile of wm6 roms to find one with LEAST Errors../ after which to be left out without basic functionality expected from phone..
i think comparisons and central database would make 4 all of us one nifty time/nerve saving future..
and just so it won't look like i am NOt appreciating my privileges i am contributing to community in a meanwhile(maybe before i cook my own../ or rather uncook, ever since heat processing makes it all tasteless and leaving us with all but one option to do: use spices, and salt..
I'd like to help to to make a RAW, FRESH ROM, call it Vanille, clean. Giving some constructive feedback, helping guys like mUn, and other nottoosmart guys alike..
( ;; ) )
well, cheers to all yall!
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Dude.....we're not supposed to have these roms.....!
This is why we have to go somewhere else to download them.
A comparison chart for something that we are not supposed to have....need I say more.
A comparison chart would be nice though but these roms don't work the same on every device.
Example: several roms were said to have incorrect values on the touch keyboard...I have never experienced this where others have.
Constructive feedback: IMO I beleive that's what everyone who installs a rom and discuss their experience is contributing to make the installed rom better. Some have mishaps and need help but a majority try to make the rom better. Not everyone can create cab files and discover what reg edit is best...those who can supply while those who can't, test.
If you start a comparison chart, I'll join in. PM me with what you got.
As far as making a clean rom....I'll help with that too.
Orwells WM6 is a clean version....that's where alot of these roms originate from.
You and I, we have our own opinions and are able to discuss them, thats what makes a forum.
dwny said:
As far as making a clean rom....I'll help with that too.
Orwells WM6 is a clean version....that's where alot of these roms originate from.
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Now that I've been on Faria's "the real thing" and mUn's, I don't think I could go back to any of the previous WM6 roms. MBE was decent after a lot of tweaking, but these two new ones are far above more complete and stable than anything I had previously.
I'll wait for the Faria vanilla and the nottoosmart stripped and fixed mUn ROM. I think both of these will be the standard for some time...
You know what i would say the same, as close to the top. What is so different from all the WM6 rom really!!! We are getting 20 million new ones everyday!!!
I am running faria's WM6 rom, and that is the only i have flashed, cus i dont trust any other!!! Looking at what people are saying i would say it was the best cus it does not have so many problems!!!
At it is so much fun to find solutions to problems, if we did not have that we would be so bored!!! Think of your self as beta testers for Mircosoft!!! Cus they dont do any work but the Roms are getting so much better!
I tested/flashed all ROMs uploaded on my Folder (IW25NT), so at least I know what I'm talking about.
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I tested/flashed all ROMs uploaded on my Folder (IW25NT), so at least I know what I'm talking about.
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So have I..........
And I'll keep on doing that, if I don't like I'll just restore the old setup.
What is annoying here lately, is that if someone posts a ROM, you'll either get all kinds of remarks how bad this ROM is (if it is not from 1 of our XDA Xprts), or remarks like before posted.
That one of the reason's why I stopped posting if I updated my Folder.
I'll continue to upload, just look ones in a while.
this rom is very fast, stable, low battery consumption!
Well its 2 July 2008, its a really hot day (here in Greece) and I am tired of flashing more and more ROMS to my UNI. It's not only flashing but the boring procedure of installing software. If you see the other devices forum, the people there more happy with the releases (just see the small brother of our UNI, wizard (qtek9100 etc) it has many roms that are years after Universal roms. We have the problem that we have VGA screen, but I thing we can do smth better.
Can we make a team of donators (and testers both) and invite any cooker that will make a GREAT rom for everyone????
example:
If 50 users donate 20$ each = 1000$ = a good motive for cookers.
The name of the rom would be UCP (Universal Conspiracy Project) + the name of the cooker/team.
I 'm waiting your opinion and ........members
Up the UNIVERSAL
makiss78 said:
Well its 2 July 2008, its a really hot day (here in Greece) and I am tired of flashing more and more ROMS to my UNI. It's not only flashing but the boring procedure of installing software. If you see the other devices forum, the people there more happy with the releases (just see the small brother of our UNI, wizard (qtek9100 etc) it has many roms that are years after Universal roms. We have the problem that we have VGA screen, but I thing we can do smth better.
Can we make a team of donators (and testers both) and invite any cooker that will make a GREAT rom for everyone????
example:
If 50 users donate 20$ each = 1000$ = a good motive for cookers.
The name of the rom would be UCP (Universal Conspiracy Project) + the name of the cooker/team.
I 'm waiting your opinion and ........members
Up the UNIVERSAL
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1) It wouldn't be good, the members would be put on randsom..cookers could then take advantage to mint money. I am a cooker and I can tell you that I wouldnt suggest it though I'm sure no one minds "free money".
2) if you want a great rom..contact a cooker and offer to pay them directly (you'll get through cheaper) - I'm honestly saying this, because this sort of thing happened (Ransom) for the Athena Project..no names or targets, but everything revolved around money.
3) You could go with that if you really want to though...but if flashing is the issue you could stick to a single rom and just wait...the time frame waiting on one cooker (eg. Tomal since you use his roms alot), and let him cook at his pace. If there are multiple cookers together (cartel) it will take much longer (with internal issues as well). Refer to the Athena Project....
Just my opinion since I saw alot of stuff happen on other projects...which wouldn't mind repeating here as well if we "PAID". I know its more like a contribution but once you make it clear you're going to pay or "offer money" for development...the idea of a community like xda begins to break and mess up...thats only going to make cookers and others expect to be paid for releases - if not the Universal forum the entire board and all the threads here...Cookers outside universal will follow a similar trend...the reason I started cooking was not to bother people with too many flashses but rather to design new roms and cook new things and offer to the community...
We're already paying Microsoft ( & HTC) a great deal....
I love the idea of working together on a project..but when you add money...though for the BEST INTENTIONS...they cause lots of problems..
Best Regards,
No Rom Bountys
I have to agree.
This is not the place to offer money for cooking.
Developers are here because they enjoy what they do, and enjoy sharing it with the community. Donations are fine, but offering to pay for Dev time will cause so many problems.
The main issue, and one of the reasons I have been so quiet with Rom Development for so long is that there are many users on this forum now, who seem to think they have a right to demand things from a Developer, and go as far as flaming a Developers work.
Never forget what this site was created for, for like minded "Developers" to get together to work on reverse engineering the software and improving the use, functionality and features of their devices.
There are far too many users here, who can not spend a bit of their own time reading up on the information provided (free of charge) that gives them greater knowledge and understanding of their device, it's functions and how to use the software available here.
Unfortunately the site has become full of demanding people who want a perfect Rom, exactly the way they think it should be done, and so they demand and criticise the Developers, bugging them in their threads and requesting time and time again, functionality that is not important to the particular Developer that they are targeting. This only leads to one thing, the Developers gets annoyed, loses interest and moves on to another forum or stops Developing altogether.
Feedback from users is great on the work that we do, the site would be useless without user feedback, but all said and done, we are all here to better our knowledge and help others resolve their problems.
We do not provide a software customisation and "help me un brick my device, because I can't be assed to read the Wiki" service.
All in all if you wish to have a Rom customised to your own needs and are willing to pay for it, them PM one of the senior Developers who's been around for a while and ask politely if they would be interested in doing so for you. I doubt you would get much response though as most of us do it for the community, not the individual.
There are plenty of people who sell roms on Ebay, perhaps you could ask them too. (although most of what they sell has been hijacked from here)
All the Developers here, share ideas and information on bugfixes, tweaks and porting issues, that's the idea of the community.
Rant over.
Cheers,
Beasty
I also agree it is a bad idea to let the 'money' element come into the community. I have personally seen devs and testers get burned because things went sore cause of 'immature testers/users' or 'deva-devs' who think they are the best and don't open up to the idea of sharing for the common good.
At the end of the day it really boils done to what motivates a person to do what they do. Allow me to be the first to say that this board is one of the best on the WEB...I consider it one of my virtual homes because I have made a few friends alone the way and learned a lot of crap too
I donate because I want to help, that's my way of saying to the community I appreciate all the 'love' and keep up the good work. Also, because it is my 'home' I want to see it improve. I have also engaged a few 'devs' direct when I wanted a particular cab built or a rom tweaked...so maybe you can do that (but of course manners maketh the man) however you need to show respect and not come off as a jerk
Cheers...
Youmeus
Agree!
Hi
I´m just a simple user, but since I got to this fantastic forum I´ve tried to READ, LEARN & RESPECT others people hard work for the UNI´s.
I think ROM devs have a lot of patience on all of us that only demmand things from them, if in some point they get tired of all of us, this forum and our UNI´s would be death.
I kindly ask all normal and simple users as me to respect Devs not asking so many things but yes contributing with feedback to their important work.
Let´s keep moving forwards and with good energy!
Best to all
Gracias
i don't agree with that idea of paying the cookers. it is because i believe they cook out of their passion to share and to improve themselves, not to earn a living.
money cant buy their hard works........
makiss78 said:
Well its 2 July 2008, its a really hot day (here in Greece) and I am tired of flashing more and more ROMS to my UNI. It's not only flashing but the boring procedure of installing software. If you see the other devices forum, the people there more happy with the releases (just see the small brother of our UNI, wizard (qtek9100 etc) it has many roms that are years after Universal roms. We have the problem that we have VGA screen, but I thing we can do smth better.
Can we make a team of donators (and testers both) and invite any cooker that will make a GREAT rom for everyone????
example:
If 50 users donate 20$ each = 1000$ = a good motive for cookers.
The name of the rom would be UCP (Universal Conspiracy Project) + the name of the cooker/team.
I 'm waiting your opinion and ........members
Up the UNIVERSAL
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hmm, i don't believe if the cookers are motivated by money
i just believe that they are motivated by fun and sharing with others
money they got does not enough for their hard works and their knowledge has been sharing
honestly, i want make donation for them, for their fun shared for me
but, i never make donation for them, because i don't have any paypal account to make it possible
and, to appreciate what they have done
i never think that one ROM is better than the others, no ROM is best
because it has been developed by their fun and knowledge, to be shared to others
and, hey, sorry
if you don't like what they've done, just leave this forum
just take it or leave it, easy
alfa2005 said:
hmm, i don't believe if the cookers are motivated by money
i just believe that they are motivated by fun and sharing with others
money they got does not enough for their hard works and their knowledge has been sharing
honestly, i want make donation for them, for their fun shared for me
but, i never make donation for them, because i don't have any paypal account to make it possible
and, to appreciate what they have done
i never think that one ROM is better than the others, no ROM is best
because it has been developed by their fun and knowledge, to be shared to others
and, hey, sorry
if you don't like what they've done, just leave this forum
just take it or leave it, easy
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hey that was just my opinion, I didn't say smth about our cookers, and I 'm thankfull for their hard work.
I have more than 3 different ppc's (UNI,WIZARD,HIMA and htc3600) and I can make a comparison to htc's roms that is good working or not. BUT THIS IS JUST MY OPINION. The thought of my post is just for a competition of cookers and the money is an award for their work (and maybe a try from other device's cooker/developers). Maybe it's right, maybe it's wrong.
Everyone have to say their thoughts without shouting and without offend ANYONE. Thats Democracy.
It's my decision If I leave or not this forum.
makiss78 said:
...is just for a competition of cookers and the money is an award for their work (and maybe a try from other device's cooker/developers).
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i think that's the point of many of us here. There is no room for COMPETITION here. this site is built for each one of us to HELP each other, the developers/cookers learn from the feedbacks, the end-users benefit from the output of the cookers. if you want it to be like a CONTEST, cookers themselves will not share their ideas to other cookers. They will not help other developers since only one cooker will win in your "competition"...
i bought the Uni for profess. work -- but feel like a beta tester
hallo michalis031,
maybe good idea. I bought the Uni to earn money -- intended to help me to become more efficient.
Result?
- System (too) often hangs or reboots (no error messages!)
- active sync does not work properly (sometimes o.k., minutes later errors )
- callers often only hear my 30s-answering machine -- slow respond to incoming calls (!!)
... only to mention the most annoying subjects...
Who has better ideas to make this great little machine a real professional one?? I am ready to pay for excellent work -- and this is the only thing i expect to get.
makiss78 said:
Well its 2 July 2008, its a really hot day (here in Greece) and I am tired of flashing more and more ROMS to my UNI. It's not only flashing but the boring procedure of installing software. If you see the other devices forum, the people there more happy with the releases (just see the small brother of our UNI, wizard (qtek9100 etc) it has many roms that are years after Universal roms. We have the problem that we have VGA screen, but I thing we can do smth better.
Can we make a team of donators (and testers both) and invite any cooker that will make a GREAT rom for everyone????
example:
If 50 users donate 20$ each = 1000$ = a good motive for cookers.
The name of the rom would be UCP (Universal Conspiracy Project) + the name of the cooker/team.
I 'm waiting your opinion and ........members
Up the UNIVERSAL
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ulli99 said:
hallo michalis031,
maybe good idea. I bought the Uni to earn money -- intended to help me to become more efficient.
Result?
- System (too) often hangs or reboots (no error messages!)
- active sync does not work properly (sometimes o.k., minutes later errors )
- callers often only hear my 30s-answering machine -- slow respond to incoming calls (!!)
... only to mention the most annoying subjects...
Who has better ideas to make this great little machine a real professional one?? I am ready to pay for excellent work -- and this is the only thing i expect to get.
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Hi ulli99,
Tomal V7.7 is the answer to your question
Tomal V8.0 still under scrutinize.
Wish List
Opera 9.5 1123 (stable version)
Diamond CommManager
Diamond QWERTY & XT9 keyboards multi-language (the real ones!)
Diamond Large Menu/Large Title bar.
Diamond Volume control
Diamond Adobe Reader LE
Diamond MP3 Trimmer
Diamond RandomAccess (in Contacts)
Diamond Alerts/Ringtones
Cheers!
iamwin said:
i think that's the point of many of us here. There is no room for COMPETITION here. this site is built for each one of us to HELP each other, the developers/cookers learn from the feedbacks, the end-users benefit from the output of the cookers. if you want it to be like a CONTEST, cookers themselves will not share their ideas to other cookers. They will not help other developers since only one cooker will win in your "competition"...
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Very true.... right on the mark.
I have to agree with the majority on here, as a tinkerer I find that the forum is very expansive to those that are willing to read and not just post "help me unbrick my uni" posts.
If I had the techincal skills and time I would love to start cooking, but most of all I would do this for the good of the forum and not to line my own pockets. I hope I am right in asuming that the majority of cookers are profesional coders in another line of work and do this for the fun of the chalenge, this is very admirable.
Also the lack of finacial incentives and deadlines allows the dev's the chance to tweak and bug fix to the level that they wish and not just to get by with what they can do in the time space.
In reply to the post "I bought mine for business", I would say that you made a mistake to consider unlecking and adding new roms if you were to rely on the uni to help you earn money. I also got my 2 uni's for business, one is a test bed of software from this forum and my main phone / pda, the other is left as OEM just to be sure I have a totally working Uni.
Please dont push the dev's into not enjoying what they do best. Keep ROM's free, but if you wish to pay just give them a donation. Im sure they would thank you for it.
Dave.
Hello munkey_bwy,
I appreciate your opinion. Thx.
Bought a 2nd Uni with WM5, installed patches to add some missing WM6 functions, and even my 100+ programs. It runs with an acceptable speed. I am really happy.
This may be irrelevant and this thread will probably be closed, but Ive had a few while Im looking for a new rom and it lead me to a question.
WHY DONT ALL THE DEVELOPERS WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE THE ULTIMATE ROM?
Im sure on of the ultimate answers would be based off of preference etc. but if we would all unite towards one specific goal, not only would we have more solid builds... but we would have more versions (lite, etc) but more themes, faster updates, etc.
I mean ive used this site for a couple years with different phones and we all seem to want the same thing. Speed, reliability, better battery life, etc. So why dont we conference, put our individual talents to use, create specific focuses and put together something Google themselves need to compete with.
I know a lot of the devs here already work together and I have no problems with the way things are... nor am I trying to disrepect any of the hard work you all have contributed. I was just thinking out loud.
Comments?
There is a similiar Thread already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572788
this is not a development topic. this belongs in q&a
We ARE working together, but we want to create ROMs for different purposes.
'ultimate' is pretty subjective.
it's easy to see all the different, seemingly random threads about different roms and mods and assume there's no teamwork involved, but really, it's just different people trying different things and when one works well most others adapt it. otherwise, everyone has a different 'ideal rom' anyways.
it's a fairly darwinian approach, but it works pretty well. you COULD try to get everyone to organize and work on one idea, but i think we can save that for companies like htc, motorola, huawei, samsung, google, etc.
besides, anyone who follows this or other android dev sites for more than a couple weeks knows which devs to kep an eye on.
what i feel is the ultimate rom, you don't think is the ultimate rom...
the ultimate ROM for me is feature lite, and fast.
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the ultimate ROM for me is feature lite, and fast.
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And I like fast and feature heavy. Best of everything. :-D
All of your responses is exactly what I mean... Lets say for example, the devs focused on the fastest, most stable and lightest rom as a base. then moved on a way to easily create or modify a theme.
from there, we could move on to different versions... like a hero or blur, etc.
ultimately, every user is going to pick there favorite programs, so maybe we develop a way to easily choose which programs you want included before you flash the rom and voila...
i mean, im sure im making this sound easier than it might be, but with clear and open communication/ exchanging ideas and coming to a reasonable base... the possibilities are endless.
users could focus on the aesthetics like icons, themes, widgets, etc.
ALL WE NEED IS A SOLID BASE...
sure, there are some talented individuals accomplishing this on their own and thats all fine and understandable. I just know that with the power of many over one... a lot more could be accomplished easier, more deliberately and effectively.
Each dev could have a specialty that they focus on...
1. Themes
2. Troubleshooting
3. Speed/ Framework
4. Battery Life
5. The list goes on...
Create an FTP for everyone to access and we could show Google exactly what theyve been hoping for... which is developers alike coming together for the greater good... again, this is just my opinion, but im glad ppl are leaving their input
and with the choosing of apps example... my idea is, if there were a lite version and an ftp or somewhere to host a list of signed apks that you could choose via checkmark, click download and it would automatically save them to a special folder on the sd card. then, the lite version could have a script that auto runs during the initial boot to install directly from this folder on the sd card.
I guess im just trying to create simplicity for the newbs and the devs or veterans that have been on the site and are tired of flaming or answering the same question.
I say, we streamline this process, create simplicity through orginization and leave more room for progress...
Ok, well thats all i have for now... I mean, I have a lot more ideas, but we'll see where this goes...
It's HTC / Google's fault for releasing different models of the same phone, as most blog publishers are oblivious to the difference and post news under the *insert adverb here* title 'htc magic donut'
Well michael this thread did prove one very important thing. That even if your a senior member on this website you dont know jack. First cyan knows the nines and round here noone can really improve his stuff but him. Hence the reason he wont do his own hero rom. They lag no matter what. Sure you can take out all the widgets cut some fat off rosie. Well hell at that point just theme a donut rom. Running the heros and blurs r fun on g1 and mytouch. But if u ever actually pick up a hero phone or blur phone and test them.... u would see a huuuuuuuuuuuuge dif in performance. So basicly the guys know their crap. All of them. and they do work together. Read a drizzy post. Or other dev post. They always thank whoever for help. And if you want your ultimate rom follow cyan he will make it eventually.
Michaelr219 said:
This may be irrelevant and this thread will probably be closed, but Ive had a few while Im looking for a new rom and it lead me to a question.
WHY DONT ALL THE DEVELOPERS WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE THE ULTIMATE ROM?
Im sure on of the ultimate answers would be based off of preference etc. but if we would all unite towards one specific goal, not only would we have more solid builds... but we would have more versions (lite, etc) but more themes, faster updates, etc.
I mean ive used this site for a couple years with different phones and we all seem to want the same thing. Speed, reliability, better battery life, etc. So why dont we conference, put our individual talents to use, create specific focuses and put together something Google themselves need to compete with.
I know a lot of the devs here already work together and I have no problems with the way things are... nor am I trying to disrepect any of the hard work you all have contributed. I was just thinking out loud.
Comments?
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You my friend are a pure genius, the problem is users ignorant and ROM makers naturally have low self-esteem. You see, take a guy like Haykuro he built the foundation for the first ROMs on the sapphire. Now he's fizzled out. BUT in the beginning he was the ****... Sure in every ROM maker's thread you will find credits etc. but that's all just ass kissing... You see, NO ROM MAKER DON'T MAKE ****! The only thing they get is an EGO BOOST! Who doesn't like an Ego boost? Developers at Google, HTC etc. Because they make $90,000+ a year doing what they do and they have normal lives with a wife and kids ideally... As for ROM makers on XDA they are either A) former workers at Google, HTC etc. who have grudges against their former employers OR B) they never got a real job working for a high end corporation like Google, HTC, etc. and ended up bumming it on XDA hoping one of their "fans" will buy they a lap dance... OR C) They are rich as **** and just love doin this **** for the hell of it because they like making ROMS, getting credit and most importantly, recognition and they ASS kissed constantly by people they don't even know... So there you have it in a nutshell with this kind of mix of developers, the ULTIMATE ROM is simply not possible... I certainly doubt I will never see it in my day or if we all go in 2012... If anyone does come up with something even slightly close to the ULTIMATE ROM I bet it will be Cyanogen or my man Dwang. Eugene was on the right track but he lost it when he turned out to be a SNiTcH AKA BIATCH of all ROM makers! But for real I love all ROM makers on XDA regardless of their motives or intentions, they spice up my life and hook my phone up and that makes them the ****. All of their work is appreciated obviously...
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You my friend are a pure genius, the problem is users ignorant and ROM makers naturally have low self-esteem. You see, take a guy like Haykuro he built the foundation for the first ROMs on the sapphire. Now he's fizzled out. BUT in the beginning he was the ****... Sure in every ROM maker's thread you will find credits etc. but that's all just ass kissing... You see, NO ROM MAKER DON'T MAKE ****! The only thing they get is an EGO BOOST! Who doesn't like an Ego boost? Developers at Google, HTC etc. Because they make $90,000+ a year doing what they do and they have normal lives with a wife and kids ideally... As for ROM makers on XDA they are either A) former workers at Google, HTC etc. who have grudges against their former employers OR B) they never got a real job working for a high end corporation like Google, HTC, etc. and ended up bumming it on XDA hoping one of their "fans" will buy they a lap dance... OR C) They are rich as **** and just love doin this **** for the hell of it because they like making ROMS, getting credit and most importantly, recognition and they ASS kissed constantly by people they don't even know... So there you have it in a nutshell with this kind of mix of developers, the ULTIMATE ROM is simply not possible... I certainly doubt I will never see it in my day or if we all go in 2012... If anyone does come up with something even slightly close to the ULTIMATE ROM I bet it will be Cyanogen or my man Dwang. Eugene was on the right track but he lost it when he turned out to be a SNiTcH AKA BIATCH of all ROM makers! But for real I love all ROM makers on XDA regardless of their motives or intentions, they spice up my life and hook my phone up and that makes them the ****. All of their work is appreciated obviously...
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LOL... thank God for the internet. Id read some of the debates youve had in other threads and they got me laughing. Im on the fence, because Im not one to take sides, but not only are you funny... but I actually agree with you on this. I mean, just one thread above me I have some guy telling me that I dont know what Im talking about. For one, Im not claiming to know all there is to know about these phones... or Id be working for Google making the big bucks... and two, he only reiterated things Id already disclaimed.
I didnt start this thread to get flamed, but opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one.
I realize that most of my ideas wont see the light of day, because without the cash or proper credit, people wont work together unless they "get theirs"
A lot of these devs work their @$$es off and receive "tips" or donations purely because they love what they do and I respect that sincerely.
However, the idea that working "together" to create the ULTIMATE rom is possible. Devs asking for tips, help, or using work that one already accomplished isnt what im referring to. It would take moderators, coordinators, infrastructure, hierarchy, etc... To those that see the light of what im talking about, thank you... to the rest, thanks anyway
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Well michael this thread did prove one very important thing. That even if your a senior member on this website you dont know jack. First cyan knows the nines and round here noone can really improve his stuff but him. Hence the reason he wont do his own hero rom. They lag no matter what. Sure you can take out all the widgets cut some fat off rosie. Well hell at that point just theme a donut rom. Running the heros and blurs r fun on g1 and mytouch. But if u ever actually pick up a hero phone or blur phone and test them.... u would see a huuuuuuuuuuuuge dif in performance. So basicly the guys know their crap. All of them. and they do work together. Read a drizzy post. Or other dev post. They always thank whoever for help. And if you want your ultimate rom follow cyan he will make it eventually.
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Read my words carefully... I am aware of what has gone on here on this site. I acknowledged that a lot of developers work well together. Unlike you, im not giving specific credit to any one or two individuals. We all know who has hit the brick and mortar with the foundations that have been set. A lot of those individuals communicate regularly.
I was nearly drawing into the fact that with technology, they could all (those who are willing, of course) conference regularly, establish agendas, specific tasks, and create a template. One that has been re-worked inside and out by each of their hands till there isnt any input that one individually could produce. From there, the focus objective could be the bigger picture like compatible themes, updates, easier installs, more features, etc.
I know im repeating myself to a degree, but I want to make sure the image is clear. There are a lot of devs doing the same thing, for some of the same reasons. But us users all come here for the SAME reason. To take our toy/ pride and joy/ project/ whatever you wanna call it... to the next level. To make it better than it was out of the box, to see the realms that it is truely capable of.
So rather than seeing some devs running into similar problems with their roms individually or simultaneously... One of two things would happen, either A: Solve it immediately once and for all or B: Catch the bug before it was even released. Hopefully my words inspire some of you. If not, keep up the great work.
Lol - cracking read
For now those are the only places I've found on the internet that really try to do something about our phone. They're in chinese but google translator can get the general meaning. Registration is free and guys over there are really supportive. Go on and have a try. They already have a clean chinese/english 6.5 rom. It's not perfect but it looks like they're going somewhere...
http://www.i3x.cc/forumdisplay.php?fid=60&page=1
http://www.zn520.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=24
If we gonna get enough people over there asking about clean ROM and other stuff maybe someone will give a damn about us.
Cheers.
I was thinking. A while ago I had very interesting conversatiion with guy called Nokser (he's developer contributing to this forum). What he told me was that he would be able to make a clean ROM out of original AT&T's WM6.5.
Now a "but". There's always a "but" isn't there ?
He said he would but he won't 'cause he lacks time. Everybody has to make a living and he can't afford to waste time for something not profitable especially when he's loaded with work. (Well OK. It's not what he told me literally but everyone can read between the lines, right?).
You have probably seen kitchens he made and you are quite aware he made life of at least few of you easier
OK, let's get to the point. Taking under consideration fact he made sucessfully i.a. i600 ROM probably he would be our (Jack's users) best bet for making i637 clean rom.
Like I said no one likes to work for free. My idea is to make small donations so he can finally help us and develop new rom.
I think it's the best idea and only one available right now.
What do YOU think guys and gals?
I'm pretty sure Nokser would like it. And I'm not trying to advertise or something...God forbid. I'm just trying to make mine and yours life easier and happier.
Have a good one! Cheers!
mykail
nice that would be cool for him to do that .but if he those make a rom add htc icons or iphone icons and change taskbar like htc phone.
Hi i have basic two question.
1. When i get from true, good imformations and news about staff like dev, some hardware, mayby information about 5G tech, i like read staff like ACTA documents and i talk about real legal document what this people written by they hands himself (idk what else name it my english it is what is is).
Im tired of searching this and i simply stack coz i dont have any more ideas...
Something is or wrong with my brain or you tell me. Im offen borring so i start use tools like github, read very interesting stuff, start even programming and this is the best part i read only basics so i still learn something new xd. Today for example http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/05290/590139.stm (how its write is ofc more important from all story).
2. In my country Poland all infornation about technology and phones in every year more and more bad. Samsung galaxy 10 its form them "journalists" almost like a lover and i say that literally!!. But im not angry coz from what they can get infornations also?!.
Yestarday i see some weard stuff or i was just tired (3 days without sleep but i do that a lot ) and see to many boots in search rezults. Number 7(!) in list when i want search about medicine is PLEASE CHECK THIS
https://pantabletka.pl/
This is just...
Idk what can say else. I want to just kill eat and ... But tomorrow is... Another day....
Thank you for all who even spend some time to read this. It was my firs "angry" post from like... Well first in my life.
PLU&R
jarko88 said:
Hi i have basic two question.
1. When i get from true, good imformations and news about staff like dev, some hardware, mayby information about 5G tech, i like read staff like ACTA documents and i talk about real legal document what this people written by they hands himself (idk what else name it my english it is what is is).
Im tired of searching this and i simply stack coz i dont have any more ideas...
Something is or wrong with my brain or you tell me. Im offen borring so i start use tools like github, read very interesting stuff, start even programming and this is the best part i read only basics so i still learn something new xd. Today for example http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/05290/590139.stm (how its write is ofc more important from all story).
2. In my country Poland all infornation about technology and phones in every year more and more bad. Samsung galaxy 10 its form them "journalists" almost like a lover and i say that literally!!. But im not angry coz from what they can get infornations also?!.
Yestarday i see some weard stuff or i was just tired (3 days without sleep but i do that a lot ) and see to many boots in search rezults. Number 7(!) in list when i want search about medicine is PLEASE CHECK THIS
https://pantabletka.pl/
This is just...
Idk what can say else. I want to just kill eat and ... But tomorrow is... Another day....
Thank you for all who even spend some time to read this. It was my firs "angry" post from like... Well first in my life.
PLU&R
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