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I've been using wm6 most beautiful for a few months, ignorant of the other versions out there. I like it, but I feel like im missing out on some spectacular kitchen-made wm6 for my wizard.
can somebody give me some pointers on a different, better version; maybe some comparing and contrasting. thanks
NDB 7.7 is kind of cool, it looks diff too
it was stable on my phone until i ****ed something up which was faulty on my side
Caught me on a bad day.....
I can't decide if your question is lazy, rude, or both.
Open the threads, read them. Can we make it much simpler? Nobody gets spoonfed here and it's generally considered a good thing to put some effort into understanding what you're doing so READ the threads of ROMs which interest you.
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This uestion depends on what you want your phone to do. Each cook has thier own style and each one likes to put diffrent things into thier roms. Take me for example, I want to make a lite version of WM6 and they all come with VC. Generally I keep the rom clean of extra's as I dont really use anything too extravagant on my own phone.
Other cooks put certain apps that they like to use, and some go for the Touch look. When a cook makes a rom they are typically making them for themselves and just being nice enough to release them to the public.
Do some research and try to look at the past roms of chefs to see what they consistantly use. MB WM6 was a good rom, but there are better ones out now.
How the hell the chineses get this fabulous rom MAMBOJAMBO versions?
http://www.brsbox.com/filebox/down/fc/b65ce1d84c96efc4b36b37bf399b2afb/rand/1560472572
WM6.1 20815 Universal
at this speed, they will have the wm7 before microsoft finish ( kidding).
But really, how they do it, from where they get this crazy versions?
Why they close this roms just for chinese in a way just a BIG VODOO can dump the imagefs.bin? and just after some months we that spend 2h to understand one ideogram can have to?
:-(
Have you tested already?
Any screenshots?
i wanna give it a try tonight but its gunna take me 3 hrs to dl hopefully someone can do it faster
i wonder if this is for G3 or G4.. downloading and testing.. comments later..
Damn it!
Fast, very fast compilation on standard CPU speed.
WM 6.1 Professional, CE 5.2.20815 20815.1.4.0
Beautyfull icons,
stable, GPRS, Wi-Fi (WPA-PSK2) ok. Included MMS Composer 5.0.27.35, WMP 10.3 B20748, Camera 3.0 B25626
Is it in chinese? Can we understand anything?
Ooop! relly fast, pretty icons etc.
but only chinese
wondering if we can have this damn thing in WWE
nfbarata said:
Is it in chinese? Can we understand anything?
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All in chinese, but partialy understandable (arrangement identical as in english WWE)
What do me AFRAID, is, if i start to search more its possible to find more newer version, i find about 209xx versions for dopodop900 .
more crazy is, if you read at chinese forums, this rom have one, 2 months. WE ARE SLOW in ocident
soon they will release windows 8 when ever microsoft started to work in that.
Screenshots please
F_R_I_T_Z said:
How the hell the chineses get this fabulous rom MAMBOJAMBO versions?
http://www.brsbox.com/filebox/down/fc/b65ce1d84c96efc4b36b37bf399b2afb/rand/1560472572
WM6.1 20815 Universal
at this speed, they will have the wm7 before microsoft finish ( kidding).
But really, how they do it, from where they get this crazy versions?
Why they close this roms just for chinese in a way just a BIG VODOO can dump the imagefs.bin? and just after some months we that spend 2h to understand one ideogram can have to?
:-(
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this rom not real 20815 was HEX from 20738
F_R_I_T_Z said:
What do me AFRAID, is, if i start to search more its possible to find more newer version, i find about 209xx versions for dopodop900 .
more crazy is, if you read at chinese forums, this rom have one, 2 months. WE ARE SLOW in ocident
soon they will release windows 8 when ever microsoft started to work in that.
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209xx also HEX , there also had 20777 , 20759...etc real version was 20758
mwang said:
209xx also HEX , there also had 20777 , 20759...etc real version was 20758
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So, it's a fake?
Jmp_3f8h said:
So, it's a fake?
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It's a working rom, with old build
Everyone, i know that, about to be hex.
first thing i look inside a rom was dsm, certificate dates and other things..
( the only ROMS versions i have doubts are 20755 and 20753 seems at last in part real.
But i do this posts in a provocative way.
More about this **** crippling in imagefs, in nk.nbf they are doing to "PROTECT THEIR WORK" ( GUESS WHEN MICROSOFT WILL PROTECT THEeir WORK SAME WAY PLUS LAWYERS AND OTHER THINGS) FROM OUR ( OR SENYOR MEMBERS REALLY DO THE HARD JOB) reENGINEERING.
If they want cript some icons, or programs is inside ok.. programs, programs codes, etc. belongs who made.
BUT .RGUS, DSM, XIP, SYS, STANDARD OEMS? they are protecting WHAT FROM WHO? THIS BELONGS MICROSFT/HTC NOT THIS PERSONS. THE KNOWLEDGEMENT TO USE THIS WAS SPREAD AROUND FOR PERSONS THAT REALLY HAVE THE SPIRIT OF LEARN AND SHARE LEARN. ( BIG HUHAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa FOR THIS GUYS, LIVE IN MY HEART, HAVE MY SUPPORT, HAVE MY FRIENDSHIP).
HOW CLOSED WE BECOME TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ( AGAIN) A SINGLE THING FROM OUR DEVICES JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE SPEND 10 DAYS DISCOVERING AND DINT WANT TO SHARE THE DISCOVER. IF this do they fell better, stay with information not release something that use this. if you have a new info and release something with this but dont give to the COMMUNITY or share this for other, THEY are using this just to show HOG GOOD they are in detriment others and how BIG THE EGO IS. ( when i say information is drivers, registry things and similars informations for our unis, not OU CODE PROGRAMS and this like)
How can be or happens if Tovalds start hide the GIT codes, because he spend hours working in a single piece of kernel code and lather just wrote in blog, now this work and say everyone, who. no, iam not releasing this, iam protecting my work. discover by yourself or way someday i release this.
BESIDES some devices forums still active a lot, look around, XDA forum is dying for some devices, ( UNIVERSAL ONE), just because A KIND of envy, not share knowledge ( iam not speaking CODES OR PROGRAMS).
PDAVIET release their roms without RGUS, chinese do thing in chinese for chinese in chineses sites that now need to be write in chinese and levitated by chinese because XDA guys stolen her jobs ( Who? i read this a lot some CHINESES sites).
I hate to live in a world where IAM BETTER YOU BECAUSE I SPEAK THIS OR IAM FROM THERE. ( DAMN HITLER w. BUSH and all MA'FIAA" and all "RED BOOKS" GODS GOVERNMENT that spread this)
This do me upset, ****...
and about what iam speaking... if someone write hoo, and what you do for community?
Soon, WITH the poorly SUPPORT i have. iam to release a kind of kitchen for our unis. Not new at side of discovery, not new at side of drivers. Using the well know tools.
But more to do new peoples, play with this things, do stupid obvious question and maybe after some time this NOT MORE stupid person was attracted by play with this, write something or do a BRILLIANT new discover for us.
but at last iam trying to put a fresh air here.. not closing forums with languages or cript things...
Well, was just this i have wish of speak..
A LITTLE EDIT..
About this crazy new numbers versions.
for US, UNIVERSAL, if no one start to try port THINGS REALLY MATTER, like OEM PACKAGES, DRIVERS ( like phonesettings from newer devices).
just upper XIP/SYS with new numbers will show GREAT, but it is something cosmetic in most part..
What matter is someone do a HELL HACK in XIP to speed bost our devices, or MERGE all PIECES of RAM IN ONE I MEAN FLASH DISK AND STORAGE), DO A HELL HACK in OUR GSM DRIVER TO EVEN GET THE BASIC ENGINNER MODE WORK and we have use of cell towercode. DO A CRAZY MOD IN OUR BT DEVICES to become CRAZY NEW.. DO A MORE THAN CRAZY CRAZY VODOO and besides upgrade 128 MEGS but 256megs. PORT THE CRAZY DRIVERS FROM NEWER DEVICES TO TAKE ANY KIND OF ADVANTAGE FOR OUR UNIS, SAME NOT HAVE NEW AWESOME GPU/OMAP/AT/NVIDIA CHIPSET INSTRUCTION.
So then will have something NEW, not just VERSIONATE NUMBERS.
Huu.. iam more THIN now i put oustise what i have wish of speak...
F_R_I_T_Z said:
Everyone, i know that, about to be hex.
first thing i look inside a rom was dsm, certificate dates and other things..
( the only ROMS versions i have doubts are 20755 and 20753 seems at last in part real.
But i do this posts in a provocative way.
More about this **** crippling in imagefs, in nk.nbf they are doing to "PROTECT THEIR WORK" ( GUESS WHEN MICROSOFT WILL PROTECT THEeir WORK SAME WAY PLUS LAWYERS AND OTHER THINGS) FROM OUR ( OR SENYOR MEMBERS REALLY DO THE HARD JOB) reENGINEERING.
If they want cript some icons, or programs is inside ok.. programs, programs codes, etc. belongs who made.
BUT .RGUS, DSM, XIP, SYS, STANDARD OEMS? they are protecting WHAT FROM WHO? THIS BELONGS MICROSFT/HTC NOT THIS PERSONS. THE KNOWLEDGEMENT TO USE THIS WAS SPREAD AROUND FOR PERSONS THAT REALLY HAVE THE SPIRIT OF LEARN AND SHARE LEARN. ( BIG HUHAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa FOR THIS GUYS, LIVE IN MY HEART, HAVE MY SUPPORT, HAVE MY FRIENDSHIP).
HOW CLOSED WE BECOME TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ( AGAIN) A SINGLE THING FROM OUR DEVICES JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE SPEND 10 DAYS DISCOVERING AND DINT WANT TO SHARE THE DISCOVER. IF this do they fell better, stay with information not release something that use this. if you have a new info and release something with this but dont give to the COMMUNITY or share this for other, THEY are using this just to show HOG GOOD they are in detriment others and how BIG THE EGO IS. ( when i say information is drivers, registry things and similars informations for our unis, not OU CODE PROGRAMS and this like)
How can be or happens if Tovalds start hide the GIT codes, because he spend hours working in a single piece of kernel code and lather just wrote in blog, now this work and say everyone, who. no, iam not releasing this, iam protecting my work. discover by yourself or way someday i release this.
BESIDES some devices forums still active a lot, look around, XDA forum is dying for some devices, ( UNIVERSAL ONE), just because A KIND of envy, not share knowledge ( iam not speaking CODES OR PROGRAMS).
PDAVIET release their roms without RGUS, chinese do thing in chinese for chinese in chineses sites that now need to be write in chinese and levitated by chinese because XDA guys stolen her jobs ( Who? i read this a lot some CHINESES sites).
I hate to live in a world where IAM BETTER YOU BECAUSE I SPEAK THIS OR IAM FROM THERE. ( DAMN HITLER w. BUSH and all MA'FIAA" and all "RED BOOKS" GODS GOVERNMENT that spread this)
This do me upset, ****...
and about what iam speaking... if someone write hoo, and what you do for community?
Soon, WITH the poorly SUPPORT i have. iam to release a kind of kitchen for our unis. Not new at side of discovery, not new at side of drivers. Using the well know tools.
But more to do new peoples, play with this things, do stupid obvious question and maybe after some time this NOT MORE stupid person was attracted by play with this, write something or do a BRILLIANT new discover for us.
but at last iam trying to put a fresh air here.. not closing forums with languages or cript things...
Well, was just this i have wish of speak..
A LITTLE EDIT..
About this crazy new numbers versions.
for US, UNIVERSAL, if no one start to try port THINGS REALLY MATTER, like OEM PACKAGES, DRIVERS ( like phonesettings from newer devices).
just upper XIP/SYS with new numbers will show GREAT, but it is something cosmetic in most part..
What matter is someone do a HELL HACK in XIP to speed bost our devices, or MERGE all PIECES of RAM IN ONE I MEAN FLASH DISK AND STORAGE), DO A HELL HACK in OUR GSM DRIVER TO EVEN GET THE BASIC ENGINNER MODE WORK and we have use of cell towercode. DO A CRAZY MOD IN OUR BT DEVICES to become CRAZY NEW.. DO A MORE THAN CRAZY CRAZY VODOO and besides upgrade 128 MEGS but 256megs. PORT THE CRAZY DRIVERS FROM NEWER DEVICES TO TAKE ANY KIND OF ADVANTAGE FOR OUR UNIS, SAME NOT HAVE NEW AWESOME GPU/OMAP/AT/NVIDIA CHIPSET INSTRUCTION.
So then will have something NEW, not just VERSIONATE NUMBERS.
Huu.. iam more THIN now i put oustise what i have wish of speak...
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Understanding your point , the problem came from many cookers who dump rom and recooked never mention base rom came from where , special PDAVIET,some of us working hard to get new build working with old devices but what we got ? nothing , we can share with our work but who care ? from long time ago darkforcesteam release some of build without protection after three days that build all of place ( which I release 5 different languages) , did they said base rom came from DFT ? no , nothing at all , seems thier work and ask for donation , we never ask for donation , we are working for free but even a little be "Thank your hard work" no one want to say that's why we start add protection,we was here long enough and help this COMMUNITY,
if you can read Chinese see here http://www.darkforcesteam.com/showthread.php?t=351, we will release 20758 for Uni WWE/CHT next week , of couse will be had protection.
see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436821 does he mention where base rom from ? 20758 was we working a month to got that .
mwang
I already know your viewpoint and from other persons about this to.
I already have work stolen and even fired after this and the company used my work with another name( under justice now )..
But its the risk of all this.
Again.. imaginate if Linus Tovalds stop the kernel just because companies use some code inside a program or already the entire KERNEL and receive BIG MONEY for that. ( iam speaking REALLY BIG MONEY and this really happens all time).
The spirit of SHARE sometimes need to be little more than that.
when i start something i think. Humm, iam doing this for money, for personal use, to hobby or for GLORY?
If iam doing something for money. and someone use my work. Its matter of justice. I NEED RECEIVE FOR THIS...
If iam doing this for fun, hoby.. damn.. the time i spend trying to understand something or do work was the cool point of all, someone used this and never speak about me? so.. problem of this person. I know the risk of do something and turn public. who know what i do, is enough to do BETTER what was better ( the CHALLENGE by itself).
If iam doing this for personal use ( to prof myself iam GOOD A LOT), i even mentioned this to someone.
If iam doing something for GLORY THEN, of course i want everyone speak my name... but is not usual in my formation. Because this i become sad..
And same you can look about this here at xda forum.
from a time to now. besides some devices still very active.. others are failing down ( not because are old), but because the refuse of what EXIST and was shared sometime not be around any more. BECOME HARD.
Of course i can search and learn like who discover first time..
but reinvent the reinvented wheel. its loose time. Its put a happiness in develop something UTILE, in the sadness of doing something standard. so i close my knowledge and another one come to try to, start everything again.
What we need to know is for what purpose we are doing what we are doing. if this is for money, you are correct in protect your work and be sad and even do more things to protect this. but if it is for FUN? get something " RE ENGINE" put to work better.. huuu... lets to do it better then, everyone.. OPEN...
**** who get this use and not mention who made staling the work or even putting at EBAY ( already find it at ebay) . GOOD JOB FOR this person.. hope
the best friend of him do the same with the her wife .
My intent writhing this things is not to FLAME anything, but share a VIEW POINT. other persons do it to.. and maybe the GOODNESS from TOOLS AND PORTS look we are here to, the small ones.., that like to try play and have funn to..( the fun is not just write the rom to device, but play with the rom) and maybe one day EVEN BECOME A A GOD and start to contribute with REAL Things to community.
Another thing. Already is working to close this way the roms?
Because from a time to now after close the roms and turn everything more hard to be OFFICIAL RELEASED HERE. seems chinese/RUSSIANS/BRAZILIANS sites started to spread more fast PSEUDO PORTS and "STOLE" the works more fast. Because become in hands of so little. And worst persopn taht everyone go to search in another place, like a do..
now closing same the WRITHED knowlled by restricting by language in a WAY THE BAD GUYS FROM XDA stolen something.
Dont know about this new version yours but is freely know that already have roms with this versions from whre BAD OR GOOD PORTED JUSTT REBRANDED. but they are there. and closing your rom or not. They will release a rom and not speak from where come.
Look iam not chilling here about TOOLS, codes, and this things. But at last sources from WHERE get this? or hoo, this work fine.. can you speak how you do it? iam not asking to give everything from your work. but informations.. BASE to another one to start to from where you are or at last to HAVE THE SAME CONCLUSION you have.
I respect a lot darkforceteam work.., pdaviet and others, guys like , buzz, toff, Beepe, dtroy, laurentius, erviu, beast, luca and many many others ( the only come now in my mind, iam not excluding no one).. what they do was amazing..
BIG HUHAAAAAAAA EVERYONE FOR THIS GUYSSSSS
but now to havA NEW NAME in OLIMPUS, the poor person will need to start everything again.. and then some day to be at the same level, this ones are today.
AND THIS IS SAD
wish if i have HOW ( i mean time and money) to create a kind of REPOSITORY for what we discover here ( since we cant store the microsoft files from roms, for law force).
A place where my discover, or my idea, or my tool CAN BE THE START for a FUN of other persons not the GOAL for this person.
Again mwang the same way you become SAD when bad things happens with the roms from your work. i become SAD with what happens. different side from the PROBLEM with different view point.
And i write this not to FLAME but to EXPOSE my FEELING the same way you cript your roms to expose your.
Its good to talk about this. not a bad thing.. IDEAS ARE NEVER BAD, THEY BECOME BAD JUST WHEN IMPOSED and more we talk about more good things can happens. ( or a WORD WAR OF COURSE, kidding )
so!!
IT IS..
BIG HUHAA FOR YU TO
F_R_I_T_Z said:
mwang
I already know your viewpoint and from other persons about this to.
I already have work stolen and even fired after this and the company used my work with another name( under justice now )..
But its the risk of all this.
Again.. imaginate if Linus Tovalds stop the kernel just because companies use some code inside a program or already the entire KERNEL and receive BIG MONEY for that. ( iam speaking REALLY BIG MONEY and this really happens all time).
The spirit of SHARE sometimes need to be little more than that.
when i start something i think. Humm, iam doing this for money, for personal use, to hobby or for GLORY?
If iam doing something for money. and someone use my work. Its matter of justice. I NEED RECEIVE FOR THIS...
If iam doing this for fun, hoby.. damn.. the time i spend trying to understand something or do work was the cool point of all, someone used this and never speak about me? so.. problem of this person. I know the risk of do something and turn public. who know what i do, is enough to do BETTER what was better ( the CHALLENGE by itself).
If iam doing this for personal use ( to prof myself iam GOOD A LOT), i even mentioned this to someone.
If iam doing something for GLORY THEN, of course i want everyone speak my name... but is not usual in my formation. Because this i become sad..
And same you can look about this here at xda forum.
from a time to now. besides some devices still very active.. others are failing down ( not because are old), but because the refuse of what EXIST and was shared sometime not be around any more. BECOME HARD.
Of course i can search and learn like who discover first time..
but reinvent the reinvented wheel. its loose time. Its put a happiness in develop something UTILE, in the sadness of doing something standard. so i close my knowledge and another one come to try to, start everything again.
What we need to know is for what purpose we are doing what we are doing. if this is for money, you are correct in protect your work and be sad and even do more things to protect this. but if it is for FUN? get something " RE ENGINE" put to work better.. huuu... lets to do it better then, everyone.. OPEN...
**** who get this use and not mention who made staling the work or even putting at EBAY ( already find it at ebay) . GOOD JOB FOR this person.. hope
the best friend of him do the same with the her wife .
My intent writhing this things is not to FLAME anything, but share a VIEW POINT. other persons do it to.. and maybe the GOODNESS from TOOLS AND PORTS look we are here to, the small ones.., that like to try play and have funn to..( the fun is not just write the rom to device, but play with the rom) and maybe one day EVEN BECOME A A GOD and start to contribute with REAL Things to community.
Another thing. Already is working to close this way the roms?
Because from a time to now after close the roms and turn everything more hard to be OFFICIAL RELEASED HERE. seems chinese/RUSSIANS/BRAZILIANS sites started to spread more fast PSEUDO PORTS and "STOLE" the works more fast. Because become in hands of so little. And worst persopn taht everyone go to search in another place, like a do..
now closing same the WRITHED knowlled by restricting by language in a WAY THE BAD GUYS FROM XDA stolen something.
Dont know about this new version yours but is freely know that already have roms with this versions from whre BAD OR GOOD PORTED JUSTT REBRANDED. but they are there. and closing your rom or not. They will release a rom and not speak from where come.
Look iam not chilling here about TOOLS, codes, and this things. But at last sources from WHERE get this? or hoo, this work fine.. can you speak how you do it? iam not asking to give everything from your work. but informations.. BASE to another one to start to from where you are or at last to HAVE THE SAME CONCLUSION you have.
I respect a lot darkforceteam work.., pdaviet and others, guys like , buzz, toff, Beepe, dtroy, laurentius, erviu, beast, luca and many many others ( the only come now in my mind, iam not excluding no one).. what they do was amazing..
BIG HUHAAAAAAAA EVERYONE FOR THIS GUYSSSSS
but now to havA NEW NAME in OLIMPUS, the poor person will need to start everything again.. and then some day to be at the same level, this ones are today.
AND THIS IS SAD
wish if i have HOW ( i mean time and money) to create a kind of REPOSITORY for what we discover here ( since we cant store the microsoft files from roms, for law force).
A place where my discover, or my idea, or my tool CAN BE THE START for a FUN of other persons not the GOAL for this person.
Again mwang the same way you become SAD when bad things happens with the roms from your work. i become SAD with what happens. different side from the PROBLEM with different view point.
And i write this not to FLAME but to EXPOSE my FEELING the same way you cript your roms to expose your.
Its good to talk about this. not a bad thing.. IDEAS ARE NEVER BAD, THEY BECOME BAD JUST WHEN IMPOSED and more we talk about more good things can happens. ( or a WORD WAR OF COURSE, kidding )
so!!
IT IS..
BIG HUHAA FOR YU TO
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nice post start like you as I said before we will release WWE version next week , BTW we play rom for fun not for money , even our forum not ask for donation and no AD in there, we knew its risk to post new build rom maybe one day we all been ask close it by "BIG GUY" and knew some "BIG GUY" was watch us .
hey guys,
this is really how things in this world are.
You do something for the people and other people will sometimes not even thank you, eventually they will steal your hard work and brand it under their name.
We have to live with that. That's how it works.
I know very good, how much time mwang and team invested into these ROMs. And it's not that easy to port the whole **** for old device like UNI is.
So as you said above FRITZ, before one even starts to do something, he must be clear about "why i am doing this?" question.
Anyway, the true ROMs for UNI are delivered by DarkForcesTeam. Everything else is recooked stuff.
All cookers should however mention, where they get the original from (as we used to do back in the good times) and give credits to original.
That will make everyone happy.
take care
buzz
WAW buzz_lightyear in my post. ( PLEASE BUZZ NEVE EVER CLOSE YR SITE OR WE UNIVERSAL USERS BECOME ORPHANS, its like loose DAD AND MUM AT SAME TIME
BIG HUHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DOUBLED YOU
BIG HUHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This become serious..
Was not my intent FLAME NOTHING.
By the way...
What buzz write about everyone come back old days, will not happens. more easy apple leave the source CODE OR IPHONE ( more than microsoft from windows). GOOGLE ALREADY SPEAK EVERYONE ANDROID IS NOTOPEN SOURCE AND FREE, BUT THE ANDROID KERNEL IT IS (SO JUST KERNEL not so much by the way). AND ME WIN LOTTERY AND BECOME RICH MOUNTING A BIG MEGA REPOSITORY FOR OUR KNOWLED AND CONTRACT MANY MANY LAWYERS TO PROTECT US FROM BIG BROTHERS..
AGAIN ABOUT STOLEN WORK..
WELL, why not in place cript something.. BRAND SOMETHING? PUT WAHTERMARKS.
starting by the screens, lather HEX names in codes and go on?
Soo, to get rid of this the STOLEN GUY will need to learn what you do very well. and at this point will start contribute to. more one looking a CODE mean LESS ERROR IN A CODE and MORE IDEAS COMMING. and even YU STOLEN IDEAS FROM THIS PERSONS.
When you port this crazy roms for US from, more crazy sources ( maybe a direct link with GOD?) .. PUT WHATERMARK IN EVERYTHING possible..
and let us poor guys ( this poor was for good now not bad).. get ride of this.. do WE HAVE WORK TO. STOLE TO STOLE, LET THIS be more hard for who do it, and put fun for who want to learn..and get rgus, modules and everything to play around.
and if someone start sell the rom at EBAY or post in sites without source , post a BIG **** gif in this place and con claim all GOOD GUYS KNOW ABOUT HARD WORK do it to.. ( in ebay case, just send to micro****.. and HTChit) they do the hard work, better WE DO.. ALREADY HAPPENS A CASE AT Brazilian EBAY, the guy was ****ed by microsoft and what i read from judical papers, micro**** even touch xda site name besides guy speak a lot about the site). MICRO**** in ow way like us..
Well.
I it is.. ( FOR NOW
AGAIN
BIGG HUHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BUZZZZ
HUHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This may be irrelevant and this thread will probably be closed, but Ive had a few while Im looking for a new rom and it lead me to a question.
WHY DONT ALL THE DEVELOPERS WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE THE ULTIMATE ROM?
Im sure on of the ultimate answers would be based off of preference etc. but if we would all unite towards one specific goal, not only would we have more solid builds... but we would have more versions (lite, etc) but more themes, faster updates, etc.
I mean ive used this site for a couple years with different phones and we all seem to want the same thing. Speed, reliability, better battery life, etc. So why dont we conference, put our individual talents to use, create specific focuses and put together something Google themselves need to compete with.
I know a lot of the devs here already work together and I have no problems with the way things are... nor am I trying to disrepect any of the hard work you all have contributed. I was just thinking out loud.
Comments?
There is a similiar Thread already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572788
this is not a development topic. this belongs in q&a
We ARE working together, but we want to create ROMs for different purposes.
'ultimate' is pretty subjective.
it's easy to see all the different, seemingly random threads about different roms and mods and assume there's no teamwork involved, but really, it's just different people trying different things and when one works well most others adapt it. otherwise, everyone has a different 'ideal rom' anyways.
it's a fairly darwinian approach, but it works pretty well. you COULD try to get everyone to organize and work on one idea, but i think we can save that for companies like htc, motorola, huawei, samsung, google, etc.
besides, anyone who follows this or other android dev sites for more than a couple weeks knows which devs to kep an eye on.
what i feel is the ultimate rom, you don't think is the ultimate rom...
the ultimate ROM for me is feature lite, and fast.
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the ultimate ROM for me is feature lite, and fast.
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And I like fast and feature heavy. Best of everything. :-D
All of your responses is exactly what I mean... Lets say for example, the devs focused on the fastest, most stable and lightest rom as a base. then moved on a way to easily create or modify a theme.
from there, we could move on to different versions... like a hero or blur, etc.
ultimately, every user is going to pick there favorite programs, so maybe we develop a way to easily choose which programs you want included before you flash the rom and voila...
i mean, im sure im making this sound easier than it might be, but with clear and open communication/ exchanging ideas and coming to a reasonable base... the possibilities are endless.
users could focus on the aesthetics like icons, themes, widgets, etc.
ALL WE NEED IS A SOLID BASE...
sure, there are some talented individuals accomplishing this on their own and thats all fine and understandable. I just know that with the power of many over one... a lot more could be accomplished easier, more deliberately and effectively.
Each dev could have a specialty that they focus on...
1. Themes
2. Troubleshooting
3. Speed/ Framework
4. Battery Life
5. The list goes on...
Create an FTP for everyone to access and we could show Google exactly what theyve been hoping for... which is developers alike coming together for the greater good... again, this is just my opinion, but im glad ppl are leaving their input
and with the choosing of apps example... my idea is, if there were a lite version and an ftp or somewhere to host a list of signed apks that you could choose via checkmark, click download and it would automatically save them to a special folder on the sd card. then, the lite version could have a script that auto runs during the initial boot to install directly from this folder on the sd card.
I guess im just trying to create simplicity for the newbs and the devs or veterans that have been on the site and are tired of flaming or answering the same question.
I say, we streamline this process, create simplicity through orginization and leave more room for progress...
Ok, well thats all i have for now... I mean, I have a lot more ideas, but we'll see where this goes...
It's HTC / Google's fault for releasing different models of the same phone, as most blog publishers are oblivious to the difference and post news under the *insert adverb here* title 'htc magic donut'
Well michael this thread did prove one very important thing. That even if your a senior member on this website you dont know jack. First cyan knows the nines and round here noone can really improve his stuff but him. Hence the reason he wont do his own hero rom. They lag no matter what. Sure you can take out all the widgets cut some fat off rosie. Well hell at that point just theme a donut rom. Running the heros and blurs r fun on g1 and mytouch. But if u ever actually pick up a hero phone or blur phone and test them.... u would see a huuuuuuuuuuuuge dif in performance. So basicly the guys know their crap. All of them. and they do work together. Read a drizzy post. Or other dev post. They always thank whoever for help. And if you want your ultimate rom follow cyan he will make it eventually.
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This may be irrelevant and this thread will probably be closed, but Ive had a few while Im looking for a new rom and it lead me to a question.
WHY DONT ALL THE DEVELOPERS WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE THE ULTIMATE ROM?
Im sure on of the ultimate answers would be based off of preference etc. but if we would all unite towards one specific goal, not only would we have more solid builds... but we would have more versions (lite, etc) but more themes, faster updates, etc.
I mean ive used this site for a couple years with different phones and we all seem to want the same thing. Speed, reliability, better battery life, etc. So why dont we conference, put our individual talents to use, create specific focuses and put together something Google themselves need to compete with.
I know a lot of the devs here already work together and I have no problems with the way things are... nor am I trying to disrepect any of the hard work you all have contributed. I was just thinking out loud.
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You my friend are a pure genius, the problem is users ignorant and ROM makers naturally have low self-esteem. You see, take a guy like Haykuro he built the foundation for the first ROMs on the sapphire. Now he's fizzled out. BUT in the beginning he was the ****... Sure in every ROM maker's thread you will find credits etc. but that's all just ass kissing... You see, NO ROM MAKER DON'T MAKE ****! The only thing they get is an EGO BOOST! Who doesn't like an Ego boost? Developers at Google, HTC etc. Because they make $90,000+ a year doing what they do and they have normal lives with a wife and kids ideally... As for ROM makers on XDA they are either A) former workers at Google, HTC etc. who have grudges against their former employers OR B) they never got a real job working for a high end corporation like Google, HTC, etc. and ended up bumming it on XDA hoping one of their "fans" will buy they a lap dance... OR C) They are rich as **** and just love doin this **** for the hell of it because they like making ROMS, getting credit and most importantly, recognition and they ASS kissed constantly by people they don't even know... So there you have it in a nutshell with this kind of mix of developers, the ULTIMATE ROM is simply not possible... I certainly doubt I will never see it in my day or if we all go in 2012... If anyone does come up with something even slightly close to the ULTIMATE ROM I bet it will be Cyanogen or my man Dwang. Eugene was on the right track but he lost it when he turned out to be a SNiTcH AKA BIATCH of all ROM makers! But for real I love all ROM makers on XDA regardless of their motives or intentions, they spice up my life and hook my phone up and that makes them the ****. All of their work is appreciated obviously...
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You my friend are a pure genius, the problem is users ignorant and ROM makers naturally have low self-esteem. You see, take a guy like Haykuro he built the foundation for the first ROMs on the sapphire. Now he's fizzled out. BUT in the beginning he was the ****... Sure in every ROM maker's thread you will find credits etc. but that's all just ass kissing... You see, NO ROM MAKER DON'T MAKE ****! The only thing they get is an EGO BOOST! Who doesn't like an Ego boost? Developers at Google, HTC etc. Because they make $90,000+ a year doing what they do and they have normal lives with a wife and kids ideally... As for ROM makers on XDA they are either A) former workers at Google, HTC etc. who have grudges against their former employers OR B) they never got a real job working for a high end corporation like Google, HTC, etc. and ended up bumming it on XDA hoping one of their "fans" will buy they a lap dance... OR C) They are rich as **** and just love doin this **** for the hell of it because they like making ROMS, getting credit and most importantly, recognition and they ASS kissed constantly by people they don't even know... So there you have it in a nutshell with this kind of mix of developers, the ULTIMATE ROM is simply not possible... I certainly doubt I will never see it in my day or if we all go in 2012... If anyone does come up with something even slightly close to the ULTIMATE ROM I bet it will be Cyanogen or my man Dwang. Eugene was on the right track but he lost it when he turned out to be a SNiTcH AKA BIATCH of all ROM makers! But for real I love all ROM makers on XDA regardless of their motives or intentions, they spice up my life and hook my phone up and that makes them the ****. All of their work is appreciated obviously...
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LOL... thank God for the internet. Id read some of the debates youve had in other threads and they got me laughing. Im on the fence, because Im not one to take sides, but not only are you funny... but I actually agree with you on this. I mean, just one thread above me I have some guy telling me that I dont know what Im talking about. For one, Im not claiming to know all there is to know about these phones... or Id be working for Google making the big bucks... and two, he only reiterated things Id already disclaimed.
I didnt start this thread to get flamed, but opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one.
I realize that most of my ideas wont see the light of day, because without the cash or proper credit, people wont work together unless they "get theirs"
A lot of these devs work their @$$es off and receive "tips" or donations purely because they love what they do and I respect that sincerely.
However, the idea that working "together" to create the ULTIMATE rom is possible. Devs asking for tips, help, or using work that one already accomplished isnt what im referring to. It would take moderators, coordinators, infrastructure, hierarchy, etc... To those that see the light of what im talking about, thank you... to the rest, thanks anyway
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Well michael this thread did prove one very important thing. That even if your a senior member on this website you dont know jack. First cyan knows the nines and round here noone can really improve his stuff but him. Hence the reason he wont do his own hero rom. They lag no matter what. Sure you can take out all the widgets cut some fat off rosie. Well hell at that point just theme a donut rom. Running the heros and blurs r fun on g1 and mytouch. But if u ever actually pick up a hero phone or blur phone and test them.... u would see a huuuuuuuuuuuuge dif in performance. So basicly the guys know their crap. All of them. and they do work together. Read a drizzy post. Or other dev post. They always thank whoever for help. And if you want your ultimate rom follow cyan he will make it eventually.
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Read my words carefully... I am aware of what has gone on here on this site. I acknowledged that a lot of developers work well together. Unlike you, im not giving specific credit to any one or two individuals. We all know who has hit the brick and mortar with the foundations that have been set. A lot of those individuals communicate regularly.
I was nearly drawing into the fact that with technology, they could all (those who are willing, of course) conference regularly, establish agendas, specific tasks, and create a template. One that has been re-worked inside and out by each of their hands till there isnt any input that one individually could produce. From there, the focus objective could be the bigger picture like compatible themes, updates, easier installs, more features, etc.
I know im repeating myself to a degree, but I want to make sure the image is clear. There are a lot of devs doing the same thing, for some of the same reasons. But us users all come here for the SAME reason. To take our toy/ pride and joy/ project/ whatever you wanna call it... to the next level. To make it better than it was out of the box, to see the realms that it is truely capable of.
So rather than seeing some devs running into similar problems with their roms individually or simultaneously... One of two things would happen, either A: Solve it immediately once and for all or B: Catch the bug before it was even released. Hopefully my words inspire some of you. If not, keep up the great work.
Lol - cracking read
Well, I've recently got a Touch Pro from my brother and it's a lovely new thing to toy with, especially a windows based phone. Having owned other more 'simpler' phones, this is a lovely breath of fresh air :3 So I found out there are now better versions of Windows Mobile; 6.5. Well, anything better than 6.1 anyways.
So I cruised by the magical interwebs for a some info and I was redirected to these forums. Though only to be bombarded by a wall of [tags] that I honestly don't understand nor do I have a gist of. Basically; Lolwhut?
I've been searching around and I just need help with
|TP|6.5.5|WWE| ★ Energy Series (23554/21898) ★|Mar 30|★ Sense 2.1 / Titanium
I read the sticky, but sure, that's where stuff like the ROM or the language. In essence, I just wanna be able to distinguish what the fish it is that would be more suitable for my liking. Or at least the difference in them.
And also, could someone direct me to a very muchos dumbed down version?
P.S; Woot first post
Distinguish what fish it is? Well, I'm not so sure what you mean, but maybe you're talking about what the rom has to offer.
If so, then NRG posts a list of all the programs he use. Most of them are pretty self explanatory. I use the same ROM as above and I can tell you that they're all useful apps in one way shape or form.
Also, what is your main question in all this. Do you want help in how to flash a ROM? or do you need help trying to figure out which rom you like best?
Well, I just want to know how to differentiate the versions of releases by those chefs (as they're called I think) based on speed and stability.
In essence; yes, you can say that I do need help trying to figure out what's best.
Kmobs just tweeted this: "So.... looks like I don't have a mytouch 4g anymore... ups says delivered... and there is nothing at my door. Fml"
No - I wish I could say I'm joking - but I'm not...
I wonder what the impact on us getting CM is going to be...
Kmobs already had a MT4G, so i am not really sure what UPS was delivering
He just posted an update, "Guys the mytouch I have now I bought full price and am going to remorse. Got it early to work on for you. the other was cheap and is gone."
Yeah, I'm a bit confused as well.
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Kmobs already had a MT4G, so i am not really sure what UPS was delivering
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I bought a full price mytouch to work on (and then remorse) as my cheap one came from my friend. The cheap one was supposed to be delivered today but nothing came to my door. I have to return the mytouch I currently have in my possession to T-Mobile.
I'm going to contact UPS tomorrow.
I'd be willing to make a donation to help replace it - I don't have a lot but if it would help?
Thank you for the offer, but I really don't want to accept money. I plan on moving on when the Nexus S comes out so I do not feel it would be fair.
Looks like I'll be sending this phone back tomorrow. Seems this phone is not gonna get to much love from the devs.
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Thank you for the offer, but I really don't want to accept money. I plan on moving on when the Nexus S comes out so I do not feel it would be fair.
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Hmmm... 3 more days of buyers remorse. Tempting!
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Thank you for the offer, but I really don't want to accept money. I plan on moving on when the Nexus S comes out so I do not feel it would be fair.
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you arent going to file a complaint with UPS? that sucks
Redestwing said:
Looks like I'll be sending this phone back tomorrow. Seems this phone is not gonna get to much love from the devs.
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This is exactly the kind of crap that's bringing these forums down. A handful of devs make stuff for a phone, and thousands of people follow. Nobody is willing to do anything for themselves anymore. So you're going to return your phone(which is a fantastic phone by the way), because somebody isn't going to make themes and there won't be a bajillion different roms available?
I first started with xda back in the day when I had my t-mobile SDA. I got ahold of an mda with a then unreleased WM6 rom from a microsoft mvp and I uploaded it to xda. I made a few windows mobile roms for myself and shared them in the forums. And I modified some apk's in the nexus one forums. I don't just 'know' how to do this stuff. I learned it because I wanted to. I didn't wait for somebody to give me what I want. I did it for myself, and then I shared.
This is how it used to be at xda. Now it's just 'gimme gimme gimme'.
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This is exactly the kind of crap that's bringing these forums down. A handful of devs make stuff for a phone, and thousands of people follow. Nobody is willing to do anything for themselves anymore. So you're going to return your phone(which is a fantastic phone by the way), because somebody isn't going to make themes and there won't be a bajillion different roms available?
I first started with xda back in the day when I had my t-mobile SDA. I got ahold of an mda with a then unreleased WM6 rom from a microsoft mvp and I uploaded it to xda. I made a few windows mobile roms for myself and shared them in the forums. And I modified some apk's in the nexus one forums. I don't just 'know' how to do this stuff. I learned it because I wanted to. I didn't wait for somebody to give me what I want. I did it for myself, and then I shared.
This is how it used to be at xda. Now it's just 'gimme gimme gimme'.
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Know what's funny? The fact you're pissed because I made a decision for myself! I don't have the time to learn how to do all of this or else maybe I would attempt to contribute.
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This is exactly the kind of crap that's bringing these forums down. A handful of devs make stuff for a phone, and thousands of people follow. Nobody is willing to do anything for themselves anymore. So you're going to return your phone(which is a fantastic phone by the way), because somebody isn't going to make themes and there won't be a bajillion different roms available?
I first started with xda back in the day when I had my t-mobile SDA. I got ahold of an mda with a then unreleased WM6 rom from a microsoft mvp and I uploaded it to xda. I made a few windows mobile roms for myself and shared them in the forums. And I modified some apk's in the nexus one forums. I don't just 'know' how to do this stuff. I learned it because I wanted to. I didn't wait for somebody to give me what I want. I did it for myself, and then I shared.
This is how it used to be at xda. Now it's just 'gimme gimme gimme'.
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It's not even that for me, it's more that daunting feeling that something newer and better will come out shortly and I might regret not having waited. I'm not saying the Nexus S will be better, but it's intriguing enough that part of me thinks I should at least give it a try. No harm in comparing right? That's how I decided between the G2 and MT4G and boy am I glad I didn't settle for the G2. I realize how unsustainable and dissatisfying this attitude is since there will always be something "bigger and better" right around the corner, just can't help it
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Know what's funny? The fact you're pissed because I made a decision for myself! I don't have the time to learn how to do all of this or else maybe I would attempt to contribute.
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I'm not at all pissed. I'm sad. I'm sad that a forum that was once full of people willing to contribute is now full of people that are 'too busy'. Last week, I worked just under 50 hours, painted my kitchen, replaced the counter-tops, installed a new sink, faucet, and garbage disposal, painted the cabinets, pulled the motor from my motorcycle, cleaned the gutters, raked and mowed my lawn(last time for the season), picked up my 3 girls every day(like I do every day), made dinner every night(wife doesn't get home til after 6)....and guess what? I STILL found time to pull apart rosie.apk and started modifying xml's because people are getting excited now that the mytouch is rooted and I wanted to contribute.
You are NOT too busy. I can assure you of that.
Well, for me, I'm gonna tough it out...
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It's not even that for me, it's more that daunting feeling that something newer and better will come out shortly and I might regret not having waited. I'm not saying the Nexus S will be better, but it's intriguing enough that part of me thinks I should at least give it a try. No harm in comparing right? That's how I decided between the G2 and MT4G and boy am I glad I didn't settle for the G2. I realize how unsustainable and dissatisfying this attitude is since there will always be something "bigger and better" right around the corner, just can't help it
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Ya I hear you there. I get like that sometimes. But mainly because I just like gadgets. I bought the nexus one while I was watching their press release. I pressed the refresh button in my browser until the order page went live.
I too got the g2 when it came out, while it was a great device, I found that I didn't need the keyboard, and the added thickness that comes with it. So I traded it in for the mytouch.
The problem with these devices is that they're not THAT different from each other. They all have this or that little feature, but it's all the same underlying hardware. 1ghz cpu, bunch of ram, hd recording...blah blah blah. It gets old after a while. If my company didn't take over my phone contract and pay for my upgrade, I would have gladly kept my nexus one. To this day, it's still my favorite phone. It's just so damn solid.
The mytouch is similar in form, but without all the metal of the nexus, it's just not the same. Anyways, I forgot the point I was trying to make, but we have to tell my girls this all the time "you get what you get, and you don't get upset". You picked that device for a reason, now ride that ***** 'til the wheels fall off!
just my 2 cents i personally feel if cyanogen isnt handling the rom for the phone it never seems to get done the right way look at the vibrant i still think devs will make roms for it no disrespect to anyone..
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I STILL found time to pull apart rosie.apk and started modifying xml's because people are getting excited now that the mytouch is rooted and I wanted to contribute.
You are NOT too busy. I can assure you of that.
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I'm thinking of starting to mod this device, just not sure where to start looking for information. I've never messed with it much before, it's been years since I've done any programming and I've pretty much forgotten everything. But, I'm always willing to learn new things
Kmobs had a working CM6 besides camera and a couple of other features on his MT4G... it should all get sorted out and we will get CM6. Instead of complaining and resorting to another phone because it was out earlier and has CM6 already... Why not actually contribute by helping trying to work and mod the phone you picked and for that reason.
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Looks like I'll be sending this phone back tomorrow. Seems this phone is not gonna get to much love from the devs.
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Returning a phone because one dev hasn't done anything with it yet in the barely-two weeks its been out? Seems a little extreme, lol