Just wondering how many people are like me and couldn't care less about the stability of their phone, as they have a second one, or are hermits that simply like the shiniest new toys.
I think it was Gullum that said he cooked the m3d beta into a rom and it was faster than not, so who all would be interested in a rom like that? All the software is mega buggy, but cooking it in might make things a little less crashtastic.
On a similar note, before I dust off the kaiser kitchen I barely used, are there any chefs working on this, or have one laying around? I'm really not too good at such things, which is why I previously gave up the misguided notion of cooking a while ago.
i dont mind most of the small bugs but the backlight issue is a deal breaker even for me
Fine With Me
I have an extra phone and never had that much sense anyway. Seriously, since I've been flashing my Kaiser and experimenting and probably moving towards fiddling with cooking a ROM (everyone starts somewhere), it would be a learning experience for me. I would like to try the beta.
I would love a ROM with all the features of HyperDragon III, but with the use of Manila3D instead. For me HDIII ROM is perfect in all the features it provides, so it would be hard to flash another ROM unless it incorporates the same functions.
Meanwhile, you can download / understand the bugs / follow the progress of Manila 3D here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430718
@cheezeman: each of us have different expectations from a ROM, let's not take absolute references.
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I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!
and the dumbest post award goes to ....
charly_mx said:
and the dumbest post award goes to ....
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Is this really necessary?
waleed786 said:
I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!
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If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.
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Is this really necessary?
If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.
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Very true,the best ever Rom I have tried so far and specially the 10mb ppool
I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy
I use XM6r3, it has given me no problems at all. I have tried many other roms and felt this was the best for my needs. Are there faster roms? I did like tnt, I tried a couple different builds (including touchflo which I don't care for) and after configuring and installing all my normal things, XM6r3 seemed to run faster. Available memory was almost =. I do like some of the bug fixes TNT has.
You think your question should be easy to answer, but really your asking what is the best car manufacturer, who has the best tasting beer. In time you will find one you like. I initially flashed my brains out with everything I could get my usb cable on, but now, I just want something that gets it done.
Jeff
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I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy
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What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.
Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?
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Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?
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The best thing that you can do for yourself is simply read up on everything involved with your wizard first. Is it unlocked? Is it G3 or G4? Does it have an IPL and SPL higher then 2.XX ? Please don't answer these questions to me. I am simply giving you some things to follow up on in your research, so that you can avoid ending up with a Brick.
Personally I have been using my own cooked Cross bred version, although I really like the look of It's Right 1933. I may have to cross breed something there.
Good Luck
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What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.
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Nothing too major. I modified a few .RGU files to remove some settings I don't like (Wireless on the Today screen is one I can think of), replaced the various TNT skin customisations with the default ones, replaced the Calc1 with the original Calculator, removed the themes and added my own, customised my own 'Office Mobile' folder, added battery status with my own settings, removed some unused applications and replaced them with some of my own. I replaced some of the included packages with the same ones I have that I have had continued sucess with - i.e. the various media related packages that all have reliance on certain codecs and system files that everyone seems to have issues with (Audio Manager, Voice Recorder, Streaming Media, Camera & MMS). I also included my Personal Stuff and locale settings in a custom .RGU file as well as changed the Autorun stuff to launch my own extended ROM. Oh and I have my own custom splash screens (which it took me a while to get installed and it really pi$$ed me off when I used to install a new ROM and these got overwritten..... )
Basically when I flash my ROM (or hard reset) there are minimal changes that I need to make and no software to manually install to get it back the way I like it (my VoIP settings, a Certificate and TT get installed from my extended ROM).
I am currently using the 'HyperCore' kitchen but have used others with similar results. Using the HyperCore you must follow the instructions since it is easy to miss a step and end up with a partially 'dead' Wizard.
HTH
Andy
Starting this thread was a bad idea. Sorry I didn't saw it yesterday
Reasons :
[*]This has been posted too many times before.
[*]The "Best ROM" for you is the one YOU like most. You'll have to try a few on your own to figure out which one works best for you.
[*]Everybody will give you different answers so you won't get much out of it.
[*]ROMs don't act the same on all devices. One ROM that works perfect on my device it might not work the same on yours or any other one here. You don't trust me ? Do a benchmark on your PDA..then ask someone else to do a benchmark on his PDA with same ROM and you'll see differences.
In case that didn't convinced you, here's a small list of similar threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263035
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339408
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335642
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333120
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306917
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330668
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324876
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324156
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319941
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317901
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316778
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314646
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314497
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312774
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310934
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310043
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309041
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295777
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The list can continue. "This is but a fraction of the monster..."
I think there should be such a forum for people to come and read review about the posted roms to decide which is the best or those with fewer bugs so that people can make very informed decisions.I have tried Ivan etc and I keep changing to get one that can suit me....please all I am saying is that some can deal with some bugs and others cant so once we differentiate.It will work perfectly for all of us....Post your opinions
It's hard to say, really... you should try a few out and find what best suits your needs. Here is a list of almost every WM6 ROM known.
I like these ones:
Laurentius26 - Videocall 3 I think I'm actually going to go back to this one soon if I can get my UNI to flash right.
BeastyLeo 2.09.01 -- speakerphone doesn't work, though. I also don't like the "taskbar" add-on they included. The ROM's pretty slick overall, though. I also don't like Esmertech Java -- Intent is much better.
Jwrightmcps - 2.12.08 is also pretty good, although I had trouble where my WiFi stopped turning on. You may have more success.
This is what I am talking about.
list your experiences with the various rom so that rom selection will be guide with some information forehand.......
Thanks buddy.....keep it coming
I use my phone for games slingbox and I started out using only the crossbow, but since I fixed the lighting bug in the real vga sping of things rom, I don't think I will really change again, less bugs and fast.
what will it cost us to express our opinions?
what will it cost us to express our opinions on software that we get for free and have others make wise decisions when choosing to avoid multiple flashing.....?
I have tried all 6.1 rom's DCS, Dutty's, (all versions) in the past two days. Got dropped calls, phone powering out in a call on all of of them, some wouldn't sync etc, basically 6 roms, ALL failures. And yes, I switched 5 radios, still no go. Whatever is in that vodafon rom is useless.
So I went back to Sleuth 6.1, it syncs, and calls don't drop (Both pretty important in a phone PDA wouldn't you say?)
So a simple poll:
this is a good rom yes, however juding all the posts and threads about unwanted threads dont be hurt if u get flammed. post praise in the proper area ie. the thread sleuth started
Hard to choose...
Is very hard to choose... all are very good players....
Sleuth's is my choice, at the moment...
Thank to all of them!!
I say cheers to all cooks. With bugs or without all these guys work hard on the roms and all deserve a pat on the back. And some money in their pocket.
I am using Dutty's 6.1 and 1.58.26.20 and it is the best combination I have used yet. Battery life was extended greatly and I do not have any issues with dropped calls or anything.
Answer to all
Here it is a nut shell.
"TO EACH HIS OWN"
mikeycollins13
yes yes with all my fingers up i agree w you
till now sleuths rom are the best for me
Dont forget schaps!! lol
hello friends.. I think there are a lot of good chefs! But sleuth, dutty and schaps are the best...
Im waiting for a new version of schaps wm6.1 to test...
I've always wondered what others are running. I know that choice of ROM is personal user preference. There's no 'better rom' as it's all subjective. But I've always wondered what others have chosen to go with. I'd like to see this poll expanded to include more Chef's ROMs. Or maybe a Poll on WM6.1 based ROM's and another based on WM6 ROM's.
I'm personally gathering data on all the popular WM6.1 ROM's and putting the 'installed applications' in a list, a side by side Excel spreadsheet comparing the difference software and their versions that each Cook has chosen to use. This way I get a 'birds eye view' a simple comparison table, showing me which ROM has what and what versions. I'm also taking note on the base they chose. I to don't like the Vodaphone base, I've tried L26's ROM and Dutty's ROM, both are solid, but I could tell that the base was a cause of a lot of my issues (both Vodaphone based). Sleuths 3.02 base rocks, although not the latest WM6.1 build, it's solid and quick.
I think I may end up throwing in the towel and learning how to cook myself. There's bits and pieces out of each ROM I like and dislike, I'd love to combine them all into a personal ROM that's perfect for my needs, everything I like, nothing I don't. Anyways,if anybodys interested in my Excel comparison or the things I like and dislike about each ROM, just PM me. If anybody knows of a list already, PLEASE IM me so I don't waste 2 hours comparing and making notes
So I have been trying out all of these roms for about a year now, learning how certain things work, which is fast, responsive, and looks sexier than my girl LOL. So far i have come to love the OTP roms and PDAViet roms (i just wish they could team up together on a super clean rom), but now i just want MORE! so i guess if i cant find one out there that i can be totally satisfied with, might as well just learn how to cook one. I wouldn't consider myself to be a noob, but i also wouldn't consider myself to be an expert cook. If anyone would like to help or give any feedback, i would greatly appreciate it.
Are you going for super stripped like my ROMs? Or a mix of stripped and OTP and PDAViet ROMs?
I tried to mess with the 6.5 on here with HyperCore to no avail. I'm a noob as far as Rom cooking goes. I messed around with some other Roms here to get use to it. Mainly wanted a smoother running 6.5 with my favs (Youtube, Opera, etc.) but when I used HC and the tutorial, it came out to like 8.5GB and got stuck on packaging (no Packaging.Sof). I did however get the pagepool down to 4MB like another member did and did see some mediocre results with an overclock to 299Mhz. I haven't seen the new ThrottleLaunch Morph yet, but I'm still learning. Good luck. I'll let you know if I get anything on it.
Update! unable to cook the rom!
so my last post was announcing my first rom, but tragically i broke my wing that same day due to an argument with my significant other (who knew you can break the phone in 5 different pieces when thrown). To answer Ivan's question though, i wanted the rom to have the smoothness of OPT with the memory and layout's of PDAViet's WM6.5, and add a custom flair if possible. Ive noticed certain flaw's in roms that could be an easy fix if pointed out... I do believe that if someone where to take PDAViet's WM6.5 rom and cook TL Morph into it, it might actually work a little faster. Also i have noticed that since a lot of PDAViet's roms are imports, the T-Mobile Cert's are not installed. This can cause the auto update of time and date to be incorrect as well as messaging and other functions U.S. members would use. If anyone would want to take over this project, by all means, i will greatly appreciate it... and to put my two cents in, the only real problem with it is the scripting and porting of import to domestic. To put it in other words, its like taking a JDM Honda Type R and making it a domestic Acura Type R (for those who understand cars). The parts are there, its all about putting it together. Have fun guys and I MISS MY WING!... now time to wait till the G2 comes out so my girl can buy it for me
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so my last post was announcing my first rom, but tragically i broke my wing that same day due to an argument with my significant other (who knew you can break the phone in 5 different pieces when thrown).
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How many pieces did her phone break into???
I will be receiving my fuze tomorrow and I've been doing quite a bit of research on these forums. I've come to the conclusion that I will be using a cooked ROM, and there are quite a few to choose from, so a little confusion has set in. I would like to offer a bit of friendly and constructive criticism to ROM maintainers -- Clearly state the goal you are aiming to accomplish with your ROM! It would certainly help in determining which to use (whether it be stability, speed, size, features, etc).
I'm looking to do away with the cruft of the OEM ROM and use something that is, first and foremost, stable and bug free. Performance is secondary but still important.
I guess the place to start would be, a WM6.1 ROM or a 6.5 ROM? I have read the other thread with regard to differences, but my question is of a different context. I am not tied to the 6.1 interface, so that part is irrelevant. I have heard conflicting reports on speed and battery use, but the general consensus is that 6.5 is better. Any word on stability? How about application support?
Then, as far as a particular ROM, I'm looking for something that doesn't necessarily offer all the latest and greatest, but supports a particular version (with bugfixes and performance improvements) for a while. Reading through ROM release posts, it seems that new releases typically have a few kinks to work out. I'm looking for something that has been ironed out over time, or at least will be supported for a while!
Thanks in advance,
B
ROM Choice
I would suggest PROven ROM 4.1 and 1.14.25.05 radio. Fast, stable and energy efficient. I think most folks will suggest that you flash a variety of ROMs and see for yourself what you like best. Enjoy!
If your thinking of a 6.5 rom I can strongly recommend Shep's rom, if your looking for a 6.1 rom I thought the EnergyRom was the best i've used!
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If your thinking of a 6.5 rom I can strongly recommend Shep's rom, if your looking for a 6.1 rom I thought the EnergyRom was the best i've used!
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I fully agree...I am running Shep's 6.5 rom without any problems. Battery is about the same as 6.1 roms, maybe a little better with certain settings.
You can cook your own ROM using Da_G's kitchen. I can help you if you want.
You have a lot of options. I would say your first option is Wm6.1 or Wm6.5. Very easy choice; WM6.5 no doubt.
You then have a choice of ROMS. I personally do not appreicate the HTC overlay software and feel as though it is pretty, fun and simple but it is more look than substance. I also find that no matter what Cooked ROM I am using that the Roms that aren't stripped down to Wm6.5 basic are simply too slow for me. Some of the cooked Roms are very fast in comparison to the HTC OEM stuff but I still use stripped Roms.
I would say plan to flash three to four times. Try a Da_G Wm6.5 Rom first to figure out what wm6.5 is like. Then go for Shep or NATF to see what a custom rom would be and finally go for broke and try your own cooked Rom.
Once you flash you will be tempted to try other Roms, so go for it. Each ROM really does have it's own unique purpose with a lot of overlapping features.
the amount of roms for the touch pro is truly dizzying so I feel your pain.
The type of roms I like are similar to DCD or NoChem's work. Clean and simple with the necessary OS tweaks/enhancements, then add my cabs.
For my first tpro rom, I'm gonna try Copper.
Are there any roms that just remove the att junk and leave everything else? My current phone is a HTC thru a small carrier that didn't add extra stuff. I was able to tweak little stuff on it w/o doing in the main os. Thanks