I will be receiving my fuze tomorrow and I've been doing quite a bit of research on these forums. I've come to the conclusion that I will be using a cooked ROM, and there are quite a few to choose from, so a little confusion has set in. I would like to offer a bit of friendly and constructive criticism to ROM maintainers -- Clearly state the goal you are aiming to accomplish with your ROM! It would certainly help in determining which to use (whether it be stability, speed, size, features, etc).
I'm looking to do away with the cruft of the OEM ROM and use something that is, first and foremost, stable and bug free. Performance is secondary but still important.
I guess the place to start would be, a WM6.1 ROM or a 6.5 ROM? I have read the other thread with regard to differences, but my question is of a different context. I am not tied to the 6.1 interface, so that part is irrelevant. I have heard conflicting reports on speed and battery use, but the general consensus is that 6.5 is better. Any word on stability? How about application support?
Then, as far as a particular ROM, I'm looking for something that doesn't necessarily offer all the latest and greatest, but supports a particular version (with bugfixes and performance improvements) for a while. Reading through ROM release posts, it seems that new releases typically have a few kinks to work out. I'm looking for something that has been ironed out over time, or at least will be supported for a while!
Thanks in advance,
B
ROM Choice
I would suggest PROven ROM 4.1 and 1.14.25.05 radio. Fast, stable and energy efficient. I think most folks will suggest that you flash a variety of ROMs and see for yourself what you like best. Enjoy!
If your thinking of a 6.5 rom I can strongly recommend Shep's rom, if your looking for a 6.1 rom I thought the EnergyRom was the best i've used!
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If your thinking of a 6.5 rom I can strongly recommend Shep's rom, if your looking for a 6.1 rom I thought the EnergyRom was the best i've used!
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I fully agree...I am running Shep's 6.5 rom without any problems. Battery is about the same as 6.1 roms, maybe a little better with certain settings.
You can cook your own ROM using Da_G's kitchen. I can help you if you want.
You have a lot of options. I would say your first option is Wm6.1 or Wm6.5. Very easy choice; WM6.5 no doubt.
You then have a choice of ROMS. I personally do not appreicate the HTC overlay software and feel as though it is pretty, fun and simple but it is more look than substance. I also find that no matter what Cooked ROM I am using that the Roms that aren't stripped down to Wm6.5 basic are simply too slow for me. Some of the cooked Roms are very fast in comparison to the HTC OEM stuff but I still use stripped Roms.
I would say plan to flash three to four times. Try a Da_G Wm6.5 Rom first to figure out what wm6.5 is like. Then go for Shep or NATF to see what a custom rom would be and finally go for broke and try your own cooked Rom.
Once you flash you will be tempted to try other Roms, so go for it. Each ROM really does have it's own unique purpose with a lot of overlapping features.
the amount of roms for the touch pro is truly dizzying so I feel your pain.
The type of roms I like are similar to DCD or NoChem's work. Clean and simple with the necessary OS tweaks/enhancements, then add my cabs.
For my first tpro rom, I'm gonna try Copper.
Are there any roms that just remove the att junk and leave everything else? My current phone is a HTC thru a small carrier that didn't add extra stuff. I was able to tweak little stuff on it w/o doing in the main os. Thanks
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There seems to be a plethora of ROMs out there, all using different CE OS and build versions, and with different software installed. I'm sure each one suits different people in different ways, and there isn't a "best" one out there, but is there any comparison information anywhere such as which is faster, more stable, most free space, versions of OS and build. If not, how about people post their preference of ROM and reasons for the choice here to help newcomers make an informed decision without having to flash 23 different ROMs only to find they should have stuck with the original
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There seems to be a plethora of ROMs out there, all using different CE OS and build versions, and with different software installed. I'm sure each one suits different people in different ways, and there isn't a "best" one out there, but is there any comparison information anywhere such as which is faster, more stable, most free space, versions of OS and build. If not, how about people post their preference of ROM and reasons for the choice here to help newcomers make an informed decision without having to flash 23 different ROMs only to find they should have stuck with the original
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"It's all about if you flash new ROM every second or third day."
To be honest, go through the forum and you will find speed comparisons (SPB Benchmark), OS and Radio version differences and any other answers.
BTW I'm using Alex's HTC UltraClean ROM v4 with OS 5.2.1620 build 18125.0.4.2
and soon to be moving to Quentin's Q-Mobile v1.2 OS 5.2.1948 Build 18548.0.7.0
Cheers.
Unfortunately no one can tell you which ROM to use. The best thing to try them and see which one works best for you based on what's included. From what I've seen in the benchmark there hasn't been that much of a difference to say one ROM works better than the other (for cooked ROMs). The difference I think wouldn't make much difference when you're using the device unless it's a huge gap in the benchmark.
With that said, I've been using Alex's ROM (used his v4 cooking kit) and it worked great for me. I recently flashed Quentin Q-Mobile v1.2 and it's been working great so far. I tend to stick with ROMs compatible with radio v1.27.14.07 as it works best for me. I've tried other ROMs but reception is normally not the best. So that's one main point for me. I normally like to install my own software so that's why I've been using Alex's ROM kitchen. When Q-Mobile v1.2 came out recently the included apps were all things I used so that came in very handy.
Again, just try the ROMs and see what you like. I'm not a big fan of the touchflo cube so I stay away from those ROMs... doesn't mean I didn't try it.
I have tried all 6.1 rom's DCS, Dutty's, (all versions) in the past two days. Got dropped calls, phone powering out in a call on all of of them, some wouldn't sync etc, basically 6 roms, ALL failures. And yes, I switched 5 radios, still no go. Whatever is in that vodafon rom is useless.
So I went back to Sleuth 6.1, it syncs, and calls don't drop (Both pretty important in a phone PDA wouldn't you say?)
So a simple poll:
this is a good rom yes, however juding all the posts and threads about unwanted threads dont be hurt if u get flammed. post praise in the proper area ie. the thread sleuth started
Hard to choose...
Is very hard to choose... all are very good players....
Sleuth's is my choice, at the moment...
Thank to all of them!!
I say cheers to all cooks. With bugs or without all these guys work hard on the roms and all deserve a pat on the back. And some money in their pocket.
I am using Dutty's 6.1 and 1.58.26.20 and it is the best combination I have used yet. Battery life was extended greatly and I do not have any issues with dropped calls or anything.
Answer to all
Here it is a nut shell.
"TO EACH HIS OWN"
mikeycollins13
yes yes with all my fingers up i agree w you
till now sleuths rom are the best for me
Dont forget schaps!! lol
hello friends.. I think there are a lot of good chefs! But sleuth, dutty and schaps are the best...
Im waiting for a new version of schaps wm6.1 to test...
I've always wondered what others are running. I know that choice of ROM is personal user preference. There's no 'better rom' as it's all subjective. But I've always wondered what others have chosen to go with. I'd like to see this poll expanded to include more Chef's ROMs. Or maybe a Poll on WM6.1 based ROM's and another based on WM6 ROM's.
I'm personally gathering data on all the popular WM6.1 ROM's and putting the 'installed applications' in a list, a side by side Excel spreadsheet comparing the difference software and their versions that each Cook has chosen to use. This way I get a 'birds eye view' a simple comparison table, showing me which ROM has what and what versions. I'm also taking note on the base they chose. I to don't like the Vodaphone base, I've tried L26's ROM and Dutty's ROM, both are solid, but I could tell that the base was a cause of a lot of my issues (both Vodaphone based). Sleuths 3.02 base rocks, although not the latest WM6.1 build, it's solid and quick.
I think I may end up throwing in the towel and learning how to cook myself. There's bits and pieces out of each ROM I like and dislike, I'd love to combine them all into a personal ROM that's perfect for my needs, everything I like, nothing I don't. Anyways,if anybodys interested in my Excel comparison or the things I like and dislike about each ROM, just PM me. If anybody knows of a list already, PLEASE IM me so I don't waste 2 hours comparing and making notes
So I've had my Kaiser a while now and I think it's time to flash the ROM for something a little faster. I have it from Orange and at present, it still has the original Orange ROM on it, I'm after something fairly basic that will speed things up, what would you recommend?
I have been using Duttys 6.1 UC version and its great... but I guess different folks will give you different thoughts and ideas...
Dear AndyCr15, the first thing u need to check is that whether ur phone has hardSPL and CID unlock then you'll be able to flash new roms which are not from original carrier or manufacturer.
Duttys 6.1 rom is the most widespread rom in this forum currently, cause you can change the system to whatever you want cause it have a lot of features that give you ability to fully control your using.
In my opinion, if you want just a fast rom, UDK 7.0 R2 is worth a try. I dont say it is the best but I think it is the stable and fast rom so far I've been used.
Then you can consider Schap rom. In fact I've never tried his rom before, but I can tell it is also a good rom.
As well as the roms I recommended, you can flash DCS roms too. However, I foun it working a bit slower than the others. The rest of KAISER roms are Alex, XTRM, Sleuth, Q-mobile, L26 V5 (this rom looks cool) etc.
Now, it is your choice, you can try all of them and pick the one you like the best. Gudluck, I hope this help
My suggestion is you try a few and see what you like. You will truly get 20 different answers on this question. It's like asking what is the best dessert. Do you want 6.0 or 6.1? What apps do you want? Do you want all inclusive or a lite ROM and install all of your own Cabs.
Try a version of Alex's - he has a ton of versions based upon what you might want. Try Q-Mobile, which is a fast and lite ROM (a little older than the others now, but still very, very good). Try Dutty's - he has a lot of fans.
Also try searching - there are about 100 threads with this question.
Greetings. I'm so glad I've found this forum, I've been reading and learning a lot. I have a Tilt and love it. Stock WM 6.1 rom, "clean" no bloatware install. I'd like to upgrade it using Dutty's rom, my question is what is the main number one advantage to doing so?
I'm pretty happy using SPB Mobile 3, having switched from Point UI, SPB Mobile 2 before that, M2D before that, and the phone is reasonably fast. Are other roms noticeably faster? That would be my main reason for changing roms. Sorry if this is a noob question but I have been reading a lot and only find a few references to speed in new roms. Thanks for any help.
The beauty of this community is the diversity of customizations which includes all the cooked roms available to us.
Windows mobile (in my view) would be no where without all the hacks/tweaks/customizations that this forum brings to us.
Now you ask the benefit to flashing custom roms?
Basicly it allows you to transform your device/phone to how you want it to the tee! Each rom has its pros and cons. I personally use Abusalza's roms as they are really snappy and have many useful apps included.
Duttys roms are great as well. I want to say one of dutty's roms is the best i've ever put on my device but he hasn't made a rom recently for the kaiser so its kind of outdated and i need to have the latest and best running on my device )
Its not that hard to flash a rom and check it out for a couple hours to see if you like it or not so go ahead and expirement with different roms!
Also reading is key! i'm pretty confident in saying any trouble you run into has already stumped someone else before and there is a solution. As you search and read to solve your own problems it will expand you knowledge which enables you to help someone else on this community making you a valueable member!
Just make sure you check out this thread and when bored, read through the wiki.
It's just fun! I am a flash junkie ...thats why I flash all the time!
Thanks!
Thanks so much for your answers. The fun part has grabbed me as well, I really want to try it but have to go through the unlock business first I guess.
Dutty's last rom was from over a year ago, you may want to look into something newer, ROM's have changed a bit since then.
Yes, a new rom will significantly improve your phone's speed, functionality and if you install a newer radio as well will even improve your phone's battery life, reception, media playback and your camera's functionality.
Read this guide before installing your first rom as you'll need to install a hardspl before you do a rom install...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
My personal recommendation for you is to install this rom (Abusalza's PDACorner X4)...
AT&T Tilt Rom - http://www.ponack.net/abusalza/Ultimate-X.V4.Lite-S.2G.rar
Upgrade to a newer radio and install SPB Mobile Shell 3 and iGO(you can get it from torrents) after you install the rom.
It's the perfect combination.
I'm sure others will recommend a few additional programs to install on top of that as well.
Thanks, I've been thinking about the WM 6.5 roms....
Hey Guys
Hey Guys,
Closing thread in an effort to keep threads clean and uncluttered.
Rom flashing is all personal preference which you will discover once you begin flashing roms to find the perfect one for you. a new thread is not needed on this subject.
Peace and take care,
Joshua
I have a sprint touch pro2 and id like to use a faster and lighter version of windows. What is the recommended rom for this phone?
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I have a sprint touch pro2 and id like to use a faster and lighter version of windows. What is the recommended rom for this phone?
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What do you mean by "lighter" version?
IMHO, the stock ROM is the quickest ROM out. However, not by much. The custom roms out there (MightyMike's, NRG's, and many, many others, are pretty quick). Now, this says a lot, especially when you consider these ROMS include content designed to run on other phones having more CPU power & MEMORY.
If you're looking for low battery consumption, I would stick to the Stock Rom and use power saving tweaks: reducing backlighting, setting updates, such as send/receive, etc., to manual, and other tweaks. Just search here & you will find tons. You can also search at ppcgeeks.com for power saving tweaks.
Personally, I have gone through about 6 different custom ROMS and they are mostly the same regarding speed and battery consumption. Since I juice my TP2 whenever it's available (car, home, office), I rarely have issues. I'm on Energy's latest Dusk, and it's amazing.
You just might want to experiment with the different ROMS out there and see which one you prefer.
Good luck...and have fun!
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What do you mean by "lighter" version?
IMHO, the stock ROM is the quickest ROM out. However, not by much. The custom roms out there (MightyMike's, NRG's, and many, many others, are pretty quick). Now, this says a lot, especially when you consider these ROMS include content designed to run on other phones having more CPU power & MEMORY.
If you're looking for low battery consumption, I would stick to the Stock Rom and use power saving tweaks: reducing backlighting, setting updates, such as send/receive, etc., to manual, and other tweaks. Just search here & you will find tons. You can also search at ppcgeeks.com for power saving tweaks.
Personally, I have gone through about 6 different custom ROMS and they are mostly the same regarding speed and battery consumption. Since I juice my TP2 whenever it's available (car, home, office), I rarely have issues. I'm on Energy's latest Dusk, and it's amazing.
You just might want to experiment with the different ROMS out there and see which one you prefer.
Good luck...and have fun!
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I agree with NlogN. I have been toying with flashing a new ROM but I can't really find anything 'wrong' with the stock ROM. The only thing I think would be fun is to play with 6.5 and the new touchflo interface. Only thing holding me back is I don't know if you can use any of the ROM's for the Rhodium in landscape with the keyboard. That's the ROM I'm looking for but haven't seen. Do some youtube searches for 'TP2 ROM' or 'Touch Pro 2 ROM' and you'll find a bunch of videos that show Nrgz, MightyMike and Juicy. Check out the vid's and see what you think. Let us know what you decide!!
If you go with a ROM running WM6.5 and Sense 2.1, Landscape is fully functional. In fact, the MightyROM 12.6 is built off of the ROM extracted from the USCC TP2 with 6.5 and 2.1. It is not until you move to Manila 2.5 that landscape issues appear. Even WM 6.5.x works in landscape.
Thanks for the tip CeLIgUy!!! Now I think I'll give MightyROM a try. From experience, Verizon will take longer than usual to release their customized version of 6.5 and I'm tired of waiting. Now back to YouTube for a MightyROM review.....
Your welcome Sweena, and good luck!
Mighty Rom for sure.
I was running NRG's before, and I had 40mbs of ram OR LESS at all times. I couldn't run opera some times.
With Might I get 80 mb on his 6.5 version, 6.5.3 Starts at 100 mbs free I THINK ( dont hold me to it).
Sense 2.5 both of them.
Edit: I think NRG's Roms have a higher page pool, that eats up most of the ram, while Mightys dosent.
Mighty's is just as fast.
Another vote for the stock ROM. With a few cab tweaks, it's the fastest and most stable ROM I've run
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Another vote for the stock ROM. With a few cab tweaks, it's the fastest and most stable ROM I've run
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What tweaks do you recommend?
One i have is HD TWEAK.
Second is HTCAddicts cleanRAM.
Anything else?
I found this on PPCGeeks. not sure how it works though. I still need to wait for my TP2 to arrive.
stab244 said:
I found this on PPCGeeks. not sure how it works though. I still need to wait for my TP2 to arrive.
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MightyROM sense 2.1 version 1206 screams, has no issues, can use portrait and landscape and has tons of support, not that you'll need it at all. Just read the first few posts for his ROM on PPCGeeks and you'll be fine. If you want to stay with the stock rom , the link above has a file that was built with multiple tweaks in it and is highly recommended. It contains most tweaks you would want for speed, memory, battery life, etc. I would recommend it if you want to stay on the stock ROM and if you want a very smooth, fast, stable 6.5 sense 2.1 ROM that is basically stock, go with Mighty's 1206 version. He also does have 3 project ROM's he's working on one with 2.5, one 6.5.X and one that merges both, but I think the 6.5.x is the most stable with landscape and MMS of the project ROMs. Have fun.
Just found this rom. Looks sweet.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=102276
I find I switch between Mighty's and Energy roms. I also find that they are faster, often times more reliable (few memory issues), and have more goodies than the stock rom. Plus they provide updated HTC changes, such has the facebook fixes and whatnot.
Argh... I was planning on using a cooked ROM, but I want to know if any of them have Office Mobile included. Document editting on the go is kind of necessary for me...
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Argh... I was planning on using a cooked ROM, but I want to know if any of them have Office Mobile included. Document editting on the go is kind of necessary for me...
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Office is available for free via Windows Marketplace. However, most custom ROMs do include it.
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Office is available for free via Windows Marketplace. However, most custom ROMs do include it.
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Alright cool. Thank you.
With that out of the way, what's the most stable custom-ROM out there?
If you go with anything that simply runs 6.5 with sense 2.1, you should find stability to be a non-issue. Once you move into the realm of more experimental stuff, like windows 6.5.x and/or manila 2.5 you may loose some stability. So just dig through the ROM's and just try different ones. I waited until I had a day off work before I did my first TP2 flash and tried about a dozen ROM's. XDA is really more of a GSM site, go to PPCGeeks.com for a more robust selection of CDMA ROM's.
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If you go with anything that simply runs 6.5 with sense 2.1, you should find stability to be a non-issue. Once you move into the realm of more experimental stuff, like windows 6.5.x and/or manila 2.5 you may loose some stability. So just dig through the ROM's and just try different ones. I waited until I had a day off work before I did my first TP2 flash and tried about a dozen ROM's. XDA is really more of a GSM site, go to PPCGeeks.com for a more robust selection of CDMA ROM's.
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Alright. I'll see what I can do. And thanks for the tips!