I have a sprint touch pro2 and id like to use a faster and lighter version of windows. What is the recommended rom for this phone?
otakutrevan said:
I have a sprint touch pro2 and id like to use a faster and lighter version of windows. What is the recommended rom for this phone?
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What do you mean by "lighter" version?
IMHO, the stock ROM is the quickest ROM out. However, not by much. The custom roms out there (MightyMike's, NRG's, and many, many others, are pretty quick). Now, this says a lot, especially when you consider these ROMS include content designed to run on other phones having more CPU power & MEMORY.
If you're looking for low battery consumption, I would stick to the Stock Rom and use power saving tweaks: reducing backlighting, setting updates, such as send/receive, etc., to manual, and other tweaks. Just search here & you will find tons. You can also search at ppcgeeks.com for power saving tweaks.
Personally, I have gone through about 6 different custom ROMS and they are mostly the same regarding speed and battery consumption. Since I juice my TP2 whenever it's available (car, home, office), I rarely have issues. I'm on Energy's latest Dusk, and it's amazing.
You just might want to experiment with the different ROMS out there and see which one you prefer.
Good luck...and have fun!
NLogN said:
What do you mean by "lighter" version?
IMHO, the stock ROM is the quickest ROM out. However, not by much. The custom roms out there (MightyMike's, NRG's, and many, many others, are pretty quick). Now, this says a lot, especially when you consider these ROMS include content designed to run on other phones having more CPU power & MEMORY.
If you're looking for low battery consumption, I would stick to the Stock Rom and use power saving tweaks: reducing backlighting, setting updates, such as send/receive, etc., to manual, and other tweaks. Just search here & you will find tons. You can also search at ppcgeeks.com for power saving tweaks.
Personally, I have gone through about 6 different custom ROMS and they are mostly the same regarding speed and battery consumption. Since I juice my TP2 whenever it's available (car, home, office), I rarely have issues. I'm on Energy's latest Dusk, and it's amazing.
You just might want to experiment with the different ROMS out there and see which one you prefer.
Good luck...and have fun!
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I agree with NlogN. I have been toying with flashing a new ROM but I can't really find anything 'wrong' with the stock ROM. The only thing I think would be fun is to play with 6.5 and the new touchflo interface. Only thing holding me back is I don't know if you can use any of the ROM's for the Rhodium in landscape with the keyboard. That's the ROM I'm looking for but haven't seen. Do some youtube searches for 'TP2 ROM' or 'Touch Pro 2 ROM' and you'll find a bunch of videos that show Nrgz, MightyMike and Juicy. Check out the vid's and see what you think. Let us know what you decide!!
If you go with a ROM running WM6.5 and Sense 2.1, Landscape is fully functional. In fact, the MightyROM 12.6 is built off of the ROM extracted from the USCC TP2 with 6.5 and 2.1. It is not until you move to Manila 2.5 that landscape issues appear. Even WM 6.5.x works in landscape.
Thanks for the tip CeLIgUy!!! Now I think I'll give MightyROM a try. From experience, Verizon will take longer than usual to release their customized version of 6.5 and I'm tired of waiting. Now back to YouTube for a MightyROM review.....
Your welcome Sweena, and good luck!
Mighty Rom for sure.
I was running NRG's before, and I had 40mbs of ram OR LESS at all times. I couldn't run opera some times.
With Might I get 80 mb on his 6.5 version, 6.5.3 Starts at 100 mbs free I THINK ( dont hold me to it).
Sense 2.5 both of them.
Edit: I think NRG's Roms have a higher page pool, that eats up most of the ram, while Mightys dosent.
Mighty's is just as fast.
Another vote for the stock ROM. With a few cab tweaks, it's the fastest and most stable ROM I've run
EGOvoruhk said:
Another vote for the stock ROM. With a few cab tweaks, it's the fastest and most stable ROM I've run
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What tweaks do you recommend?
One i have is HD TWEAK.
Second is HTCAddicts cleanRAM.
Anything else?
I found this on PPCGeeks. not sure how it works though. I still need to wait for my TP2 to arrive.
stab244 said:
I found this on PPCGeeks. not sure how it works though. I still need to wait for my TP2 to arrive.
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MightyROM sense 2.1 version 1206 screams, has no issues, can use portrait and landscape and has tons of support, not that you'll need it at all. Just read the first few posts for his ROM on PPCGeeks and you'll be fine. If you want to stay with the stock rom , the link above has a file that was built with multiple tweaks in it and is highly recommended. It contains most tweaks you would want for speed, memory, battery life, etc. I would recommend it if you want to stay on the stock ROM and if you want a very smooth, fast, stable 6.5 sense 2.1 ROM that is basically stock, go with Mighty's 1206 version. He also does have 3 project ROM's he's working on one with 2.5, one 6.5.X and one that merges both, but I think the 6.5.x is the most stable with landscape and MMS of the project ROMs. Have fun.
Just found this rom. Looks sweet.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=102276
I find I switch between Mighty's and Energy roms. I also find that they are faster, often times more reliable (few memory issues), and have more goodies than the stock rom. Plus they provide updated HTC changes, such has the facebook fixes and whatnot.
Argh... I was planning on using a cooked ROM, but I want to know if any of them have Office Mobile included. Document editting on the go is kind of necessary for me...
stab244 said:
Argh... I was planning on using a cooked ROM, but I want to know if any of them have Office Mobile included. Document editting on the go is kind of necessary for me...
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Office is available for free via Windows Marketplace. However, most custom ROMs do include it.
CeLlgUy said:
Office is available for free via Windows Marketplace. However, most custom ROMs do include it.
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Alright cool. Thank you.
With that out of the way, what's the most stable custom-ROM out there?
If you go with anything that simply runs 6.5 with sense 2.1, you should find stability to be a non-issue. Once you move into the realm of more experimental stuff, like windows 6.5.x and/or manila 2.5 you may loose some stability. So just dig through the ROM's and just try different ones. I waited until I had a day off work before I did my first TP2 flash and tried about a dozen ROM's. XDA is really more of a GSM site, go to PPCGeeks.com for a more robust selection of CDMA ROM's.
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If you go with anything that simply runs 6.5 with sense 2.1, you should find stability to be a non-issue. Once you move into the realm of more experimental stuff, like windows 6.5.x and/or manila 2.5 you may loose some stability. So just dig through the ROM's and just try different ones. I waited until I had a day off work before I did my first TP2 flash and tried about a dozen ROM's. XDA is really more of a GSM site, go to PPCGeeks.com for a more robust selection of CDMA ROM's.
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Alright. I'll see what I can do. And thanks for the tips!
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I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!
and the dumbest post award goes to ....
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and the dumbest post award goes to ....
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Is this really necessary?
waleed786 said:
I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!
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If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.
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Is this really necessary?
If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.
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Very true,the best ever Rom I have tried so far and specially the 10mb ppool
I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy
I use XM6r3, it has given me no problems at all. I have tried many other roms and felt this was the best for my needs. Are there faster roms? I did like tnt, I tried a couple different builds (including touchflo which I don't care for) and after configuring and installing all my normal things, XM6r3 seemed to run faster. Available memory was almost =. I do like some of the bug fixes TNT has.
You think your question should be easy to answer, but really your asking what is the best car manufacturer, who has the best tasting beer. In time you will find one you like. I initially flashed my brains out with everything I could get my usb cable on, but now, I just want something that gets it done.
Jeff
ADB100 said:
I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy
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What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.
Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?
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Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?
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The best thing that you can do for yourself is simply read up on everything involved with your wizard first. Is it unlocked? Is it G3 or G4? Does it have an IPL and SPL higher then 2.XX ? Please don't answer these questions to me. I am simply giving you some things to follow up on in your research, so that you can avoid ending up with a Brick.
Personally I have been using my own cooked Cross bred version, although I really like the look of It's Right 1933. I may have to cross breed something there.
Good Luck
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What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.
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Nothing too major. I modified a few .RGU files to remove some settings I don't like (Wireless on the Today screen is one I can think of), replaced the various TNT skin customisations with the default ones, replaced the Calc1 with the original Calculator, removed the themes and added my own, customised my own 'Office Mobile' folder, added battery status with my own settings, removed some unused applications and replaced them with some of my own. I replaced some of the included packages with the same ones I have that I have had continued sucess with - i.e. the various media related packages that all have reliance on certain codecs and system files that everyone seems to have issues with (Audio Manager, Voice Recorder, Streaming Media, Camera & MMS). I also included my Personal Stuff and locale settings in a custom .RGU file as well as changed the Autorun stuff to launch my own extended ROM. Oh and I have my own custom splash screens (which it took me a while to get installed and it really pi$$ed me off when I used to install a new ROM and these got overwritten..... )
Basically when I flash my ROM (or hard reset) there are minimal changes that I need to make and no software to manually install to get it back the way I like it (my VoIP settings, a Certificate and TT get installed from my extended ROM).
I am currently using the 'HyperCore' kitchen but have used others with similar results. Using the HyperCore you must follow the instructions since it is easy to miss a step and end up with a partially 'dead' Wizard.
HTH
Andy
Starting this thread was a bad idea. Sorry I didn't saw it yesterday
Reasons :
[*]This has been posted too many times before.
[*]The "Best ROM" for you is the one YOU like most. You'll have to try a few on your own to figure out which one works best for you.
[*]Everybody will give you different answers so you won't get much out of it.
[*]ROMs don't act the same on all devices. One ROM that works perfect on my device it might not work the same on yours or any other one here. You don't trust me ? Do a benchmark on your PDA..then ask someone else to do a benchmark on his PDA with same ROM and you'll see differences.
In case that didn't convinced you, here's a small list of similar threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263035
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339408
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335642
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333120
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306917
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330668
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324876
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324156
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319941
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317901
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316778
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314646
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314497
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312774
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310934
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310043
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309041
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295777
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The list can continue. "This is but a fraction of the monster..."
Hello all -
I am getting my Tilt from AT&T tomorrow and I've been reading like crazy on this forum + wiki in preparation of getting it. Thanks to everyone who has contributed - awesome resource!
I understand the idea of flashing ROMS, unlocking, and general tweaking - I massively hacking/tweak my Tivo, etc. and I'm pretty sure I can get through it. But, I still have one question:
What, exactly, is the advantage of the HTC rom over the AT&T Tilt rom? I have never see the HTC rom but it looks like I can avoid the bloatware and add/tweak to my Tilt to make it similar to the HTC.
So, what exactly is on (or not on) the HTC rom that makes everyone want to switch away from the Tilt rom? What does the HTC rom have that the AT&T rom can't have???
Also: I have noticed some posts about battery life being different with different roms. I assumed that battery life would result from the way the varoius settings/options are set, but maybe I am not getting this.
I have read around on the forum quite a bit and I am understanding most of the nitty gritty details about these issues, but I'm a little unclear on what the problem is with the AT&T rom in the first place!
Any advice apreciated!! thanks - Dave
I get my Tilt Tuesday and am wondering what the "bottom line" is on this as well. It seems by removing bloatware, and installing a few cabs, you pretty much get a Kaiser. Speed and battery life are concerns for me though and if either is poor, I'm pretty comfortable installing a ROM (did it previously on my Wizard). Thanks to all for all the good info and advice. I've read way too much considering I don't even have the phone yet.
Hopefully we'll get an answer. On another forum I've read that you can install cabs to make the Tilt like the HTC, but on another thread I read that the HTC rom is different and better!
I'm not seeing any major disadvantages from using the HTC rom, actually, besides the menu problems which evidently have a fix. So, it might be worth a shot.
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dhecker said:
Hello all -
I am getting my Tilt from AT&T tomorrow and I've been reading like crazy on this forum + wiki in preparation of getting it. Thanks to everyone who has contributed - awesome resource!
I understand the idea of flashing ROMS, unlocking, and general tweaking - I massively hacking/tweak my Tivo, etc. and I'm pretty sure I can get through it. But, I still have one question:
What, exactly, is the advantage of the HTC rom over the AT&T Tilt rom? I have never see the HTC rom but it looks like I can avoid the bloatware and add/tweak to my Tilt to make it similar to the HTC.
So, what exactly is on (or not on) the HTC rom that makes everyone want to switch away from the Tilt rom? What does the HTC rom have that the AT&T rom can't have???
Also: I have noticed some posts about battery life being different with different roms. I assumed that battery life would result from the way the varoius settings/options are set, but maybe I am not getting this.
I have read around on the forum quite a bit and I am understanding most of the nitty gritty details about these issues, but I'm a little unclear on what the problem is with the AT&T rom in the first place!
Any advice apreciated!! thanks - Dave
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custom roms base on htc releases have many advantages:
1- get rid of all junk and restrictions of at&t one
2- reg hacks and fixes that take the most out of your phone
3- many more advantages but if numbered here will take me all night
search in these forum and you get many other reasons to change. For example i bought the tilt and in the same day i unlock it due a hardspl and change the rom to a custom one and beleive i will never come back to at&t stock rom.
I was in your guys shoes too. I read a ton on this forum before I got the phone. Here is my advice having had 2 Tilts, first one I had for a week, then returned it till I got a better deal.
When you first start the phone you go through a quick WM6 setup. After that it will say "Customizing Device" and there will be a progress bar. When this starts reset the phone with the stylus into the small hole at the bottom. That will prevent a lot of the ATT bloatware from loading.
Try that for a week, and if it isn't broke then don't fix it.
That said, there are a lot of HTC apps I love. Keep in mind you don't need a new rom to install them.
I would only try new ROMs if one or more of the following apply:
1) You are having some issues with stability or speed.
2) You need more space on the main memory.
3) You are lazy and want to try some other premade package.
Basically all the roms I tried are not that different then the stock ATT rom without the "Customizations" bloatware install. Plus you can get the phone to the exact same level by installing apps and doing small tweaks. Its not night and day or anything dramatic. However its fun to try new things and tweak the phone, thats one of the reasons I got it.
Here are my Must Have applications.
HTC Home
HTC Audio Manager
KaiserTweak
HTC Task Manager
Opera Mini Beta 4
Google Maps
Windows Live
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I was in your guys shoes too. I read a ton on this forum before I got the phone. Here is my advice having had 2 Tilts, first one I had for a week, then returned it till I got a better deal.
When you first start the phone you go through a quick WM6 setup. After that it will say "Customizing Device" and there will be a progress bar. When this starts reset the phone with the stylus into the small hole at the bottom. That will prevent a lot of the ATT bloatware from loading.
Try that for a week, and if it isn't broke then don't fix it.
That said, there are a lot of HTC apps I love. Keep in mind you don't need a new rom to install them.
I would only try new ROMs if one or more of the following apply:
1) You are having some issues with stability or speed.
2) You need more space on the main memory.
3) You are lazy and want to try some other premade package.
Basically all the roms I tried are not that different then the stock ATT rom without the "Customizations" bloatware install. Plus you can get the phone to the exact same level by installing apps and doing small tweaks. Its not night and day or anything dramatic. However its fun to try new things and tweak the phone, thats one of the reasons I got it.
Here are my Must Have applications.
HTC Home
HTC Audio Manager
KaiserTweak
HTC Task Manager
Opera Mini Beta 4
Google Maps
Windows Live
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Pops, thanks for your informative reply. Is there really ANYTHING that the HTC rom can do that couldn't be somehow configured into the AT&T rom? I don't really mind flashing to a new rom but if I can start with the Tilt rom and configure everything I need (even if it takes a while ) that might be fine.
Am I correct in understanding that TouchFlo can work just fine on the AT&T rom? There are mixed messages about that.
Also, does any of this have anything to do with battery life??
thanks!
It all comes down to preferrences. I have a Tilt, and I have installed just about every ROM available here. I keep going back to HTC oriented ROMS, but there is some drawback in that you have to "tweak" it a bit usually to get full AT&T usability. AT&T ROMS are good for staying "true" to the carrier's mindset, but usually are buggy or slower. Dutty's right now is my fav, but that could change
Battery life is best controlled with 2 applications, both the Kaiser Tweak program, and with a good comm manager program to disable comm when not in use. Or at least move between 2G and 3G connections. 3G is awesome fast, but a hugh battery drain.
Thanks for your input! I played with a Tllt for a while and the AT&T rom might have been slower (I don't know cause I've never seen the HTC!) but it was totally stable as far as I could tell. Is there some specific bugginess that you saw or are you just referring to the general sloppiness of the AT&T bundles, etc.?
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Pops, thanks for your informative reply. Is there really ANYTHING that the HTC rom can do that couldn't be somehow configured into the AT&T rom? I don't really mind flashing to a new rom but if I can start with the Tilt rom and configure everything I need (even if it takes a while ) that might be fine.
Am I correct in understanding that TouchFlo can work just fine on the AT&T rom? There are mixed messages about that.
Also, does any of this have anything to do with battery life??
thanks!
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No, there is nothing you cannot do with the AT&T rom given enough time and tweaking. Before I got my phone I some how got the impression ROMs where almost like a different animal. I think a better analogy would be comparing them to a house with furniture. The different ROMs are just different styles.
But if you are a real power user, and it sounds like you are, I would just use another ROM and start from there. You will save some time. I'm a fan of the "clean" ROMs that some with almost nothing installed. Then I build them up from there. They are very easy to install if you read the instructions. And it only takes like 10-15 mins max.
Pops - That last comment was interesting. I can totally see the advantage of installing a lite rom or for that matter, a fully loaded Dutty's rom, etc. My concern was that if I did that, I'd actually wind up having to tweak for a while to get things smooth on the Tilt since I wouldn't be using the 'stock' rom. The assumption is the everything would work on day 1 with the stock rom, so I can tweak but I never have to really get things going.
In your experience, if I installed the most recent version of Dutty's Hybrid Kaiser TouchFlo Final (if I'm gonna flash the rom, I might as well load it up) that things would be about as stable/easy as if I spent time customized the AT&T rom?
If there's not too much risk or BS I might just go for it! There is something about keeping the original rom that makes me feel more confident, but it's also fun to tweak on the thing!
Well there are two types of Kaisers right now. The original HTC branded one and the Tilt. They are different in 2 ways. For the Tilt, some roms require you to install a keyboard fix for a minor adjustment. Also you have to configure the AT&T internet settings. It depends on the ROM. Some of the ROMs are already designed for the Tilt.
To answer your question, yes some of these ROMs can have you up and running without any tweaking or adjustments at all. Just read their instructions, it varies for each one.
For me, if I start with a stripped down ROM it takes me about 2 hours or more to install all of my apps and tweaks. For the fully featured ROMs like Dutty's, you can be ready to go in 20-30mins.
I installed the HTC stock ROM on my Tilt for the same reason I install reference drivers for my video card:
1. They are more true to the manufacturer's specifications.
2. There are more frequent and faster updates available.
Number 2 was the most important for me, even though HTC has not released an updated ROM yet...but when they do, I know that I can install it and it will be closer to what I have been using.
I had the Tilt ROM installed for a few weeks before I reverted to the HTC ROM. I also installed the HTC customizations on the Tilt ROM and played with that for a while. I noticed slight differences between the applications like the HTC Home application UI behavour has minor differences. There was also more available memory on the HTC ROM from the Tilt ROM even after I cancelled the Tilt customizations from installing.
Oh here is a neat program to help you test different ROMs without losing your contacts, SMS, call history etc.
PIM Backup
Have to throw my 2 cents in also.
Just got the Tilt last month,and after my initial fear of flashing(and succesfully installing HARDSPL) I've flashed lots of these ROM's too. I however, have to agree with Pops_G, the best solution I've found has been a "clean ROM" and customize it the way I want. I prefer the ATT versions over the monochrome/big clock/UGLY UI that the Kaiser ones have. I've been using Kyphur's Tilt XDA-Live v1.1 and love it. It provides the most storage of ANY of the custom ROMs and has the newest radio also. It shows a significant difference in my area;where the signal borders on weak.
Alemaker
Ok, these kinds of opinions and comments are really helping out. I think I'm gonna do this:
1) When the Tilt comes (today!) I'll play with the AT&T stock ROM for a while and get a feel for it.
2) Then, I'm going to flash Dutty's ROM - it has just about everything and it will give me a chance to look at everything from the Cube to the HTC apps and everything else. In general, I like to strip things out of my systems rather than bloat it out, but this sounds like an easy way to check it all out in one go.
3) Most likely I'll be want to install Tilt XDA Lite once I've had a chance to fool around with the others. With a clean start like that I can install the apps I want and get the thing fast/stable for good.
Sounds like fun! Here I go..
dhecker said:
Ok, these kinds of opinions and comments are really helping out. I think I'm gonna do this:
1) When the Tilt comes (today!) I'll play with the AT&T stock ROM for a while and get a feel for it.
2) Then, I'm going to flash Dutty's ROM - it has just about everything and it will give me a chance to look at everything from the Cube to the HTC apps and everything else. In general, I like to strip things out of my systems rather than bloat it out, but this sounds like an easy way to check it all out in one go.
3) Most likely I'll be want to install Tilt XDA Lite once I've had a chance to fool around with the others. With a clean start like that I can install the apps I want and get the thing fast/stable for good.
Sounds like fun! Here I go..
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Give yourself some time with each Rom (a few days) to really get a feel for it. Also know that your battery is going to be crap for a couple of weeks until it is properly "conditioned" so don't even include that in your comparison.
Another thing you need to consider what are you looking to gain from using a cooked rom? While it can be nice to have a lot of apps mixed in once there is a new version of an app you have to either flash an updated rom or install the update over the cooked version in which case you are now losing memory as the files in the rom can't really be deleted (only marked as such)...
kypher: Thanks for your input. I am interest in your comment about having apps in the rom, space, etc.
Am I understanding that when there are apps built into the rom, those apps can't really be updated/upgraded/(deleted?) without reflashing the rom?
So, with a stripped down rom could a user install the various apps and have the ability to upgrade/uninstall/delete those apps whenever they wanted to?
That seems like a major advantage to using a lite rom then building it up on your own, which is looking more and more like the way to go! Any clarification appreciated.
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Am I understanding that when there are apps built into the rom, those apps can't really be updated/upgraded/(deleted?) without reflashing the rom?
So, with a stripped down rom could a user install the various apps and have the ability to upgrade/uninstall/delete those apps whenever they wanted to?
That seems like a major advantage to using a lite rom then building it up on your own, which is looking more and more like the way to go! Any clarification appreciated.
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Technically you can update (or even delete) the apps that are cooked in BUT... you've already paid in storage space for the files. When you upgrade the cooked files are marked as deleted so the files from the cab can overwrite them BUT... the files can't actually be deleted so if you have a 4MB program (like MS Voice Command) cooked in and you get an upgrade then you are actually paying 8MB of storage for the program now.
In short, even though the files are marked as deleted and you phone acts like they are deleted, you can't recover the memory they used if the files are cooked into the Rom. This is the primary reason I'm stripping XDA Live down as close to the undershorts as I can.
Well, the phone came this afternoon and I've been fooling around with it ever since. So far, so good!
I like the AT&T Tilt setup a lot. But, being a long-time geek I just couldn't resist and now I'm flashing Dutty's Tilt Rom. I'll play with that for a while, then maybe think about a long-term setup. It's kind of nice being able to flash the rom as I don't have to worry too much about screwing up the configuration since I can reflash at any time.
much fun! thanks everyone
I would like to try different ROMs as well, but I would like to be able to go back to ATT Tilt ROM if need be. How can I backup my original ATT ROM, so that I can flash back to it, if I needed to?
I thought with all the various ROM's out there we could see which ROM is preferred by US AT&T Tilt Users. If you want to be specific about the exact ROM you're using you can post that as well. Maybe Dutty's V3 worked better for you then Dutty's V4.
Currently using Dutty's v4. MUCH better battery for me than v3. In fact v3 was really poor for me. I'm waiting for v4b; I'm hoping it improves the few small glitches left (granted they really haven't affected me yet) and keeps the battery and other tweaks.
I use shaps because of the customizability and the fact that its almost OEM with a bunch of things added and alot of memory to spare!
Don't forget about CUSTEL, I know a lot of people use his 2.1 rom.
I was using Alex's Ultra Clean but now prefer Q's rom. Dutty makes great roms also but they have never fit my tastes. For example, having an FM player cooked into my rom that wouldn't play and prob won't ever play would annoy the hell out of me lol. I will say this though, if he somehow figures out how to get it to work then he deserves some major props on that.
Having just recently cooked my first ROM using Alex's tutorial, I prefer the ATT style over the HTC OEM look. Personally I think a major drawback to any of those style ROMs, be they from dutty,Alex, etc. is the Clock taking up such a huge space of real estate on the display, and all and all the whole UI is just to "institutional/sterile" looking to begin with. I realize that many people do great things with customization but the clock is really wasting space.
Alemaker
I gotta go with UDK. I ran Dutty's Rom for about 2 days and way too many fixes to get it where you want it..eg. Word, Favorites, HTC album and others. I'm not knocking him. I appreciate all the rom cookers. However the UDK rom is where it's at. Very stable too. This is my 3rd HTC device (Prophet, Herald, and now Kaiser). Out of all three, I have to say I've been most impressed with this version so far besides for ITJE's Touch it 4.4. I look forward to more from you UDK.
Dutty does great stuff and I know I'll end up trying one of his ROMs again soon. I'm not all that into the cube and touchflo stuff though and just wanted a super clean ROM to work with. So I've been using Alex's stripped down ROM and just loving it on my Tilt.
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Prefer clean ROMs with Added Cabs
I personally prefer to have a stable fast clean ROM as a base which we can add/remove the extra applications as independent CABs.
That said, currently I am torn among these three ROMs: Alex's ATT 1.60 Ultra Clean, Schap's 4.31 Lite, and Quentin's Q-Mobile 1.2.
Alex's ROM is great with 164MB free storage, but the free memory is only 65MB with nothing loaded. Did I miss something here? Alex's ROM has been through 4 revisions, stability, speed, and cleanliness are great (except I found one that he forgot to delete a non-working voice recording icon).
Schap's 4.31 Lite has 153MB free storage, the free memory is great with 74MB after hard reset. Schap is a talented cook; however, this 4.31 Lite still not as clean as it could be.
Quentin's v1.2 is not a lite ROM (145MB free storage), the free memory is less than the advertised 74MB (I had 69MB). I like about his ROM is: I can tell that his ROM must be of great quality since he is very meticulous on all the documentations. It's a pity that the free storage and memory amounts are mediocre.
All three are of fast speed. The difference is very subtle. Based on the way I tested them with the sliding open/close the keyboard, I observed that Alex > Schap > Quentin.
Which would you choose?
Dutty: V3
radio: 1.27.12.11
I am happy with the OEM HTC ROM. (After reverting back the radio...of course)
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Having just recently cooked my first ROM using Alex's tutorial, I prefer the ATT style over the HTC OEM look. Personally I think a major drawback to any of those style ROMs, be they from dutty,Alex, etc. is the Clock taking up such a huge space of real estate on the display, and all and all the whole UI is just to "institutional/sterile" looking to begin with. I realize that many people do great things with customization but the clock is really wasting space.
Alemaker
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wow. I never knew someone would dislike a huge clock over a tiny corner clock. Especially considering its only using one tab out of 5-6 finger-sized tabs on the home screen. Plus new VM, SMS, and Missed Calls in obvious positioning. Plus you could always stay on the Launcher button instead of the Home button.
But yeah, the default WM6 look is easier for some people.
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can the att tilt be unlock and use with nextel...ptt...
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Need I say anything
I'm using Schap's. Not the new one but the one before. Haven't found a good reason to flash my rom yet.
meorah said:
wow. I never knew someone would dislike a huge clock over a tiny corner clock. Especially considering its only using one tab out of 5-6 finger-sized tabs on the home screen. Plus new VM, SMS, and Missed Calls in obvious positioning. Plus you could always stay on the Launcher button instead of the Home button.
But yeah, the default WM6 look is easier for some people.
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Yup,
Just personal preference, tried all the HTC ones from various chefs, and even tried lots of 3rd party stuff like Spb stuff etc. Still like the default WM6 layout. Saw some awesome customizations of both styles though, and really like the wisbar Vista themed one but learning to cook is hard enough for me,let alone trying to customize using all that wisbar stuff.
I am currently using Alex's multi media ROM. I find it a good compromise between performance and memory usage. Also, the interface is sparse so I can use some of the SPB apps that I prefer.
I like Dutty
I never have used anything but the AT&T Rom's since the 8525 days but I finally decided to try Dutty's and I am very impressed. I use the GPS and get a lot of emails so I am a heavy user and the Tilt wasn't holding up but with Dutty's new v4 rom I am very impressed. Its fast, has a lot of tools and my GPS actually works well.
Its fast and responds well. I just wish there was a better phone / contact skin or program.
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can the att tilt be unlock and use with nextel...ptt...
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NO, also wrong thread. . . IDEN uses a form of GSM but it doesn't work sorry. . .
Next time make your own thread in the proper place with out hijacking. . .
alex cook rom...add your own packages, and you got your own rom.
I like to cook with Alexs rom's.
Duttys roms have too much stuff i just don't need.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WA-DdszBo0&feature=related
I know its the HD touchflo and its on the X1 but damn this runs fast. Is it the device thats doing this or the manila HD build? I know I have seen someone working on a port of HD Manila to run on VGA but the current built is very buggy and there has been very little updates on a more stable version. Out of the box, the manila runs pretty good on the fuze but as soon as you ad in some tweaks such as the original touch pro theme, it slows down big time. I have applied every tweak I know to improve touchflo 3d performance but its still not fast enough.
here the musicplayer starts in 3 seconds! and the pictures in 1 second and i have more than 2 gb of music
Mine seems to run that fast. What ROM are you using?
is the only way to get the touch HD touchflo on the raphael by flashing another rom?
If you flash the roms, will you lose all the software that comes with the phone? Such as pocket office? That's my only concern--if I flash ROMs, I want to be able to keep Pocket Word and Excel and what not.
Thanks.
99% of ROMs keep Office inside with only extreme "Light" ROMs removing it(the description will state if it doesn't). The things that will be missing on a cooked ROM is the hundreds of useless apps and demos designed by your provider to part you from your cash. Without them, your phone will run a lot lighter and faster.
I'd suggest flash Hard SPL and then go try every ROM you like the look of! Every single one will be faster than the factory one.
mine seems as fast, or faster (ok, not "faster")
I'm using the RRE ROM, and it's the fastest I've used. The rotation is near instant on it.
why does the sprint rom run better then romeos on the fuze? it has almost 130 mbs free for program
Mine runs just as fast as in the video. I have customized manila, have tons of apps installed, etc. I am using romeos 1.40. Try flashing a rom that didnt come from your service provider, you should see an improvement too
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Mine seems to run that fast. What ROM are you using?
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hey,
i dont have a custom rom yet! all original
customized tf3d with the 3 extra tabs, did some registrytweaks for it runs smooth and very fast
i was thinking all the people is complaining about the speed of the TP but mine is really fast original what speed am i going to expect when i flash a custom rom :|
Is there a way to get a similar touchflo 3d for the touch pro? I especially like that you can customize tabs. Anyway?
My rom from NATF works just as fast or faster
NATF's ROM is very slow for me, I don't know why. I am going to look into flashing something else tomorrow. Looks like ROMeOS might have v. 1.50 by then
Yea, I may flash to another ROM. I just noticed that "out of the box" the sprint version is way faster than at&t (stock rom) Even after you bypass the bloat in at&t ROM. Thx for info guys.
yeah the sprint rom has tons of free memory i was shocked and when you end all programs it doesnt seem to leak it always goes back to like 32 pct used
but i like my fuze once i flashed it. no complaints
I will be receiving my fuze tomorrow and I've been doing quite a bit of research on these forums. I've come to the conclusion that I will be using a cooked ROM, and there are quite a few to choose from, so a little confusion has set in. I would like to offer a bit of friendly and constructive criticism to ROM maintainers -- Clearly state the goal you are aiming to accomplish with your ROM! It would certainly help in determining which to use (whether it be stability, speed, size, features, etc).
I'm looking to do away with the cruft of the OEM ROM and use something that is, first and foremost, stable and bug free. Performance is secondary but still important.
I guess the place to start would be, a WM6.1 ROM or a 6.5 ROM? I have read the other thread with regard to differences, but my question is of a different context. I am not tied to the 6.1 interface, so that part is irrelevant. I have heard conflicting reports on speed and battery use, but the general consensus is that 6.5 is better. Any word on stability? How about application support?
Then, as far as a particular ROM, I'm looking for something that doesn't necessarily offer all the latest and greatest, but supports a particular version (with bugfixes and performance improvements) for a while. Reading through ROM release posts, it seems that new releases typically have a few kinks to work out. I'm looking for something that has been ironed out over time, or at least will be supported for a while!
Thanks in advance,
B
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I would suggest PROven ROM 4.1 and 1.14.25.05 radio. Fast, stable and energy efficient. I think most folks will suggest that you flash a variety of ROMs and see for yourself what you like best. Enjoy!
If your thinking of a 6.5 rom I can strongly recommend Shep's rom, if your looking for a 6.1 rom I thought the EnergyRom was the best i've used!
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If your thinking of a 6.5 rom I can strongly recommend Shep's rom, if your looking for a 6.1 rom I thought the EnergyRom was the best i've used!
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I fully agree...I am running Shep's 6.5 rom without any problems. Battery is about the same as 6.1 roms, maybe a little better with certain settings.
You can cook your own ROM using Da_G's kitchen. I can help you if you want.
You have a lot of options. I would say your first option is Wm6.1 or Wm6.5. Very easy choice; WM6.5 no doubt.
You then have a choice of ROMS. I personally do not appreicate the HTC overlay software and feel as though it is pretty, fun and simple but it is more look than substance. I also find that no matter what Cooked ROM I am using that the Roms that aren't stripped down to Wm6.5 basic are simply too slow for me. Some of the cooked Roms are very fast in comparison to the HTC OEM stuff but I still use stripped Roms.
I would say plan to flash three to four times. Try a Da_G Wm6.5 Rom first to figure out what wm6.5 is like. Then go for Shep or NATF to see what a custom rom would be and finally go for broke and try your own cooked Rom.
Once you flash you will be tempted to try other Roms, so go for it. Each ROM really does have it's own unique purpose with a lot of overlapping features.
the amount of roms for the touch pro is truly dizzying so I feel your pain.
The type of roms I like are similar to DCD or NoChem's work. Clean and simple with the necessary OS tweaks/enhancements, then add my cabs.
For my first tpro rom, I'm gonna try Copper.
Are there any roms that just remove the att junk and leave everything else? My current phone is a HTC thru a small carrier that didn't add extra stuff. I was able to tweak little stuff on it w/o doing in the main os. Thanks