I thought with all the various ROM's out there we could see which ROM is preferred by US AT&T Tilt Users. If you want to be specific about the exact ROM you're using you can post that as well. Maybe Dutty's V3 worked better for you then Dutty's V4.
Currently using Dutty's v4. MUCH better battery for me than v3. In fact v3 was really poor for me. I'm waiting for v4b; I'm hoping it improves the few small glitches left (granted they really haven't affected me yet) and keeps the battery and other tweaks.
I use shaps because of the customizability and the fact that its almost OEM with a bunch of things added and alot of memory to spare!
Don't forget about CUSTEL, I know a lot of people use his 2.1 rom.
I was using Alex's Ultra Clean but now prefer Q's rom. Dutty makes great roms also but they have never fit my tastes. For example, having an FM player cooked into my rom that wouldn't play and prob won't ever play would annoy the hell out of me lol. I will say this though, if he somehow figures out how to get it to work then he deserves some major props on that.
Having just recently cooked my first ROM using Alex's tutorial, I prefer the ATT style over the HTC OEM look. Personally I think a major drawback to any of those style ROMs, be they from dutty,Alex, etc. is the Clock taking up such a huge space of real estate on the display, and all and all the whole UI is just to "institutional/sterile" looking to begin with. I realize that many people do great things with customization but the clock is really wasting space.
Alemaker
I gotta go with UDK. I ran Dutty's Rom for about 2 days and way too many fixes to get it where you want it..eg. Word, Favorites, HTC album and others. I'm not knocking him. I appreciate all the rom cookers. However the UDK rom is where it's at. Very stable too. This is my 3rd HTC device (Prophet, Herald, and now Kaiser). Out of all three, I have to say I've been most impressed with this version so far besides for ITJE's Touch it 4.4. I look forward to more from you UDK.
Dutty does great stuff and I know I'll end up trying one of his ROMs again soon. I'm not all that into the cube and touchflo stuff though and just wanted a super clean ROM to work with. So I've been using Alex's stripped down ROM and just loving it on my Tilt.
att tilt Ptt unlock
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Prefer clean ROMs with Added Cabs
I personally prefer to have a stable fast clean ROM as a base which we can add/remove the extra applications as independent CABs.
That said, currently I am torn among these three ROMs: Alex's ATT 1.60 Ultra Clean, Schap's 4.31 Lite, and Quentin's Q-Mobile 1.2.
Alex's ROM is great with 164MB free storage, but the free memory is only 65MB with nothing loaded. Did I miss something here? Alex's ROM has been through 4 revisions, stability, speed, and cleanliness are great (except I found one that he forgot to delete a non-working voice recording icon).
Schap's 4.31 Lite has 153MB free storage, the free memory is great with 74MB after hard reset. Schap is a talented cook; however, this 4.31 Lite still not as clean as it could be.
Quentin's v1.2 is not a lite ROM (145MB free storage), the free memory is less than the advertised 74MB (I had 69MB). I like about his ROM is: I can tell that his ROM must be of great quality since he is very meticulous on all the documentations. It's a pity that the free storage and memory amounts are mediocre.
All three are of fast speed. The difference is very subtle. Based on the way I tested them with the sliding open/close the keyboard, I observed that Alex > Schap > Quentin.
Which would you choose?
Dutty: V3
radio: 1.27.12.11
I am happy with the OEM HTC ROM. (After reverting back the radio...of course)
Alemaker said:
Having just recently cooked my first ROM using Alex's tutorial, I prefer the ATT style over the HTC OEM look. Personally I think a major drawback to any of those style ROMs, be they from dutty,Alex, etc. is the Clock taking up such a huge space of real estate on the display, and all and all the whole UI is just to "institutional/sterile" looking to begin with. I realize that many people do great things with customization but the clock is really wasting space.
Alemaker
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wow. I never knew someone would dislike a huge clock over a tiny corner clock. Especially considering its only using one tab out of 5-6 finger-sized tabs on the home screen. Plus new VM, SMS, and Missed Calls in obvious positioning. Plus you could always stay on the Launcher button instead of the Home button.
But yeah, the default WM6 look is easier for some people.
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can the att tilt be unlock and use with nextel...ptt...
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Need I say anything
I'm using Schap's. Not the new one but the one before. Haven't found a good reason to flash my rom yet.
meorah said:
wow. I never knew someone would dislike a huge clock over a tiny corner clock. Especially considering its only using one tab out of 5-6 finger-sized tabs on the home screen. Plus new VM, SMS, and Missed Calls in obvious positioning. Plus you could always stay on the Launcher button instead of the Home button.
But yeah, the default WM6 look is easier for some people.
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Yup,
Just personal preference, tried all the HTC ones from various chefs, and even tried lots of 3rd party stuff like Spb stuff etc. Still like the default WM6 layout. Saw some awesome customizations of both styles though, and really like the wisbar Vista themed one but learning to cook is hard enough for me,let alone trying to customize using all that wisbar stuff.
I am currently using Alex's multi media ROM. I find it a good compromise between performance and memory usage. Also, the interface is sparse so I can use some of the SPB apps that I prefer.
I like Dutty
I never have used anything but the AT&T Rom's since the 8525 days but I finally decided to try Dutty's and I am very impressed. I use the GPS and get a lot of emails so I am a heavy user and the Tilt wasn't holding up but with Dutty's new v4 rom I am very impressed. Its fast, has a lot of tools and my GPS actually works well.
Its fast and responds well. I just wish there was a better phone / contact skin or program.
milkman219 said:
can the att tilt be unlock and use with nextel...ptt...
gsm/iden 800/850/900/950mhz
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NO, also wrong thread. . . IDEN uses a form of GSM but it doesn't work sorry. . .
Next time make your own thread in the proper place with out hijacking. . .
alex cook rom...add your own packages, and you got your own rom.
I like to cook with Alexs rom's.
Duttys roms have too much stuff i just don't need.
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I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!
and the dumbest post award goes to ....
charly_mx said:
and the dumbest post award goes to ....
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Is this really necessary?
waleed786 said:
I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!
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If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.
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Is this really necessary?
If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.
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Very true,the best ever Rom I have tried so far and specially the 10mb ppool
I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy
I use XM6r3, it has given me no problems at all. I have tried many other roms and felt this was the best for my needs. Are there faster roms? I did like tnt, I tried a couple different builds (including touchflo which I don't care for) and after configuring and installing all my normal things, XM6r3 seemed to run faster. Available memory was almost =. I do like some of the bug fixes TNT has.
You think your question should be easy to answer, but really your asking what is the best car manufacturer, who has the best tasting beer. In time you will find one you like. I initially flashed my brains out with everything I could get my usb cable on, but now, I just want something that gets it done.
Jeff
ADB100 said:
I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy
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What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.
Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?
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Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?
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The best thing that you can do for yourself is simply read up on everything involved with your wizard first. Is it unlocked? Is it G3 or G4? Does it have an IPL and SPL higher then 2.XX ? Please don't answer these questions to me. I am simply giving you some things to follow up on in your research, so that you can avoid ending up with a Brick.
Personally I have been using my own cooked Cross bred version, although I really like the look of It's Right 1933. I may have to cross breed something there.
Good Luck
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What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.
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Nothing too major. I modified a few .RGU files to remove some settings I don't like (Wireless on the Today screen is one I can think of), replaced the various TNT skin customisations with the default ones, replaced the Calc1 with the original Calculator, removed the themes and added my own, customised my own 'Office Mobile' folder, added battery status with my own settings, removed some unused applications and replaced them with some of my own. I replaced some of the included packages with the same ones I have that I have had continued sucess with - i.e. the various media related packages that all have reliance on certain codecs and system files that everyone seems to have issues with (Audio Manager, Voice Recorder, Streaming Media, Camera & MMS). I also included my Personal Stuff and locale settings in a custom .RGU file as well as changed the Autorun stuff to launch my own extended ROM. Oh and I have my own custom splash screens (which it took me a while to get installed and it really pi$$ed me off when I used to install a new ROM and these got overwritten..... )
Basically when I flash my ROM (or hard reset) there are minimal changes that I need to make and no software to manually install to get it back the way I like it (my VoIP settings, a Certificate and TT get installed from my extended ROM).
I am currently using the 'HyperCore' kitchen but have used others with similar results. Using the HyperCore you must follow the instructions since it is easy to miss a step and end up with a partially 'dead' Wizard.
HTH
Andy
Starting this thread was a bad idea. Sorry I didn't saw it yesterday
Reasons :
[*]This has been posted too many times before.
[*]The "Best ROM" for you is the one YOU like most. You'll have to try a few on your own to figure out which one works best for you.
[*]Everybody will give you different answers so you won't get much out of it.
[*]ROMs don't act the same on all devices. One ROM that works perfect on my device it might not work the same on yours or any other one here. You don't trust me ? Do a benchmark on your PDA..then ask someone else to do a benchmark on his PDA with same ROM and you'll see differences.
In case that didn't convinced you, here's a small list of similar threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263035
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339408
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335642
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333120
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306917
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330668
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324876
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324156
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319941
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317901
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316778
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314646
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314497
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312774
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310934
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310043
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309041
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295777
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The list can continue. "This is but a fraction of the monster..."
I have searched already and haven't found reviews of the new cooked and stock roms out there that we all use and love. If your flash happy like myself you would love to here unbiased reviews of the roms and I don't mean whats in the exisiting threads for each rom that have complaints, rants, and flaming. If anyone else would like to jump on this please let me know or just start reviewing the roms yourselves and the mods will hopefully start a sticky for reviews. Thanks and to all the great chefs keep up the good work.
dutty's roms are quite nice. They've got the basics. You'll probably need to install a few things for personal needs, but not too much.
For example, I always install HTC's Task manager. But he took it out since some people liked the WKTask (eww).
I've tried a few random others, and some pack in too many apps
**Edit for links** http://duttythroy.lives-in.eu/
->Current thread for V4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361544
I'd like to be able to stick with a ROM for long enough to be able to do a full review
Agreed, Duttys v4 felt nice but I changed to Q-Mobile because I was having problems with bluetooth on the v4 rom.... After playing around with the Q-Mobile rom I don't actually think that the BT problem was caused by duttys rom.
Q-Mobile is nice and clean but I've had problems installing some stuff, again might not be anything to do with the ROM and it may well be the user and or the cabs at fault
What I'd really like is to try out a WM6.1 rom to see if the new network drivers sort out my wifi problem but Im really unsure as to which is the best, hopefully some people will post their thoughts on 6.1 roms in here.
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I have searched already and haven't found reviews of the new cooked and stock roms out there that we all use and love. If your flash happy like myself you would love to here unbiased reviews of the roms and I don't mean whats in the exisiting threads for each rom that have complaints, rants, and flaming. If anyone else would like to jump on this please let me know or just start reviewing the roms yourselves and the mods will hopefully start a sticky for reviews. Thanks and to all the great chefs keep up the good work.
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duttys are typically the more favored... but recently i think sleuth stole the spotlight back with wm6.1 v3.0 it is faster than a cheetah on steroids
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duttys are typically the more favored... but recently i think sleuth stole the spotlight back with wm6.1 v3.0 it is faster than a cheetah on steroids
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That sounds fast
Roms depends on user needs Some people like fancy stuff. Like duttys one and some others with dual touch, cube etc.... And some people are professional they want fast, effective. I am in love with sleuth rom. I didnt have to install separate radio, separate java bla blah. Everything working out of the box working fine. Some people have issues like skype and core player. But they are problem with all 6.1 version.
I would of LOVED sleuth's wm 6.1 v3.0 if the audiomanager worked There were a few other small things, such as how to disable threaded sms, without killing the notifications (I didn't really like the threaded smsing, but I got enough smses that if I didn't get a notification it would mean lots of missed smses)
I spent the last 10 hours or so flashing different roms onto my phone, I've went back to Q-mobile 1.2 =/
If you don't mind the threaded sms and don't use audiomanager (I installed mortplayer to compensate) I'd suggest Sleuth's 3.0 6.1 rom.
I've tried just about every rom here and I keep going back to Q-Mobile 1.2.
I love dutty's customizations, but I have to agree that Quentin's are the most polished. I have tried almost all of them and have settled on Quentin's Q-Mobile 1.2 for now (with a lot of my own customizations of course).
Just wait a little bit
All I have to tell you guys is wait and see
Current is Sleuth 3.0 WM6.1
I am using an ATT Tilt version in the US, I have tried many of the current roms (to me some were more well done than I like, Some were not stable or under done) I like 3 roms
WM 6.1 - I like Austinsync's rom and Sleuth 3.0
WM 6.0 - I like Q-Mobile 1.2 (Sorry have not tried any others but the Sleuth version is probably good there too)
Cheers
BR
For now, I'm staying away from the 6.1 roms (I have a feeling that "for now" will change to "right now" once dutty's new one is released) but I've been using dutty's V4 since the day it was released and I love it. It's very fast and has everything you need.
...for now.
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For now, I'm staying away from the 6.1 roms (I have a feeling that "for now" will change to "right now" once dutty's new one is released) but I've been using dutty's V4 since the day it was released and I love it. It's very fast and has everything you need.
...for now.
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Haze,
I would say give Dutty a couple of days, or a week at the most, and he will release his newest flavor. The beta testers have worked really hard to get a perfect ROM to the community. You will be pleasantly surprised at the result. One thing you should know. Dutty has been building a WM6.1 ROM without a phone much like Schap's does which is quite amazing.
why do they both do it without phones? Did their phones break or are they using other ones? Anyways I like Q-Mobile 1.2 but I received a lot of error messages I didn't get on other roms. Sleuths is good also but a little too clean for my liking. Downloading Dutty v4 now hopefully this is a winner until his 6.1
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why do they both do it without phones? Did their phones break or are they using other ones? Anyways I like Q-Mobile 1.2 but I received a lot of error messages I didn't get on other roms. Sleuths is good also but a little too clean for my liking. Downloading Dutty v4 now hopefully this is a winner until his 6.1
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Dutty's phone bricked and Schap's has never had a device.
I have 2 devices, 1 with dutty's WM6.1 and the other is Sleuth 3.0's WM6.1. Both are great in their respected fields. I think dutty's is the most organized of the two. Speed wise Sleuth is ahead but thats also due to a larger page file.
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I have 2 devices, 1 with dutty's WM6.1 and the other is Sleuth 3.0's WM6.1. Both are great in their respected fields. I think dutty's is the most organized of the two. Speed wise Sleuth is ahead but thats also due to a larger page file.
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What page pool are you rockin' right now. Notice any difference in battery life?
Sleuth 3.0's WM6.1 rocks!
Tried Alex 6.1 but have no luck with no-sound problem.
Switched to Sleuth 3.0 and I stay so far.
Waiting for new version of dutty. I hope secret testing policy will help here (?)
I think it would be awesome if Dutty made a clean version of 6.1 along with his regular version. I hate having all kinds of extra programs that I'm never use.
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What page pool are you rockin' right now. Notice any difference in battery life?
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Sleuth's 6.1 is at 32MB and it's very fast and responsive. No issues with battery life. I'm on the 2nd full decharge right now. 1st run died at about 452 with bluetooth on in a E area. Dutty's default is 24 if i'm not mistaken. dutty's has the best battery life so far. I'll make a better report when i wake up, 2am here and I need to be in the office at 8. Night all
Hi all,
Having tried most of the recent ROMS and radios on this forum and have to give massive credit to the ingenuity and skill of the Chefs on here that there is so much choice available. However, I consistently had an issue with GPS fixes.The best initial fix time after a reset, or if I'd not used GPS for a few days, was about 1 minute outside in bright sunshine with no clouds. For cloudy weather this could go up to over 10 minutes. If I tried getting a fix inside at my desk which is next to the window, sometimes I would give up waiting as it just never got a fix (I realise that ordinarily you would not need GPS indoors, but it makes testing on a cold, wet day in the UK a lot easier...)
I tried pretty much everything in various GPS threads, using GPS Test, Quick GPS, disablng A-GPS etc and nothing consistently helped. I could not believe that the Kaiser was so much worse than my old Artemis.
One thread mentioned several folks downgrading to WM6 rather than 6.1 as they claimed this was better. I tried this and hey presto, I now get a cold fix in about 30 secs max, on a good day it can be 10-15 secs. At the same desk above, I get a fix in about 30 secs too. Not only that, my device in use seems to feel faster and things like screen rotate on opening the keyboard seem more so (this is subjective, not measured it).
This made me wonder what the advantages of WM6.1 actually are. From searching around, the list of things that apparently differ are :
Threaded SMS
Speed Increases
PIE Zoom Out
Task Manager
Office One Note
Of these, there are alternatives to most of them :
Threaded SMS use PocketCM,
PIE Zoom use Opera,
Task Manager - many alternatives,
One Note use TouchNotes and
Speed increase - I'm not convinced of in daily use.
However, all the chefs on this forum have moved over to 6.1 so I'm wondering that either the majority of people do not have GPS issues like I do or, as is exceptionally likely, there are other reasons that I do not know for preferring 6.1.
Any chefs out there fancy commenting on why you prefer 6.1 over 6.0 to save me from my ignorance?
Cheers,
Jez.
Same here
I have experienced the same mate. I have tried God knows how many 6.1s and besides, they are looking great and neat (thanks to our brilliant chefs here), i didn't see any improvement on my tilt, just opposite. I have experienced annoying non responsive display, very slow response time, and there was a time when I had to press display several times before I was able to run anything on the phone... let alone the GPS.
Now, I have an original HTC WM 6.0 Pro/ ROM 1.56.405.5/ Radio 1.27.12.11 and I have to say that my Tilt has never been faster and more stabile. Moreover, GPS signal is much better and even works when I put kaiser near the window. It is cloudy and rainy here in Bosnia now, yet it took only 15sec before it received signal.
So, I have to say that this one works better for me.
Lately I too have had more issues that I wish to have. Just seems there is no perfect, or even close mix of ROM/Software that is good enough to be a daily use type. Not sure if the chefs are just over-doing or we just have a bad mix of software at this time. I do hope the chefs continue to work on a better ROM, I do know they try hard and should be commended for their efforts, but right now I may move back to an older version that just worked better. Maybe 6.0, but not quite sure yet.
This is nothing new..many have reverted back to 6.0. But for what its worth, I never have to wait longer than 45 seconds in the U.S. using the emo radio inside my car rain or shine.
After receiving a warranty replacement for my Kaiser, I'm now using the stock T-mobile UK rom, and it's far better than any WM6.1 cooked rom + radio that I've tried when it comes to GPS.
However, the battery life is probably not quite as good. The unit is just as fast as with any of the cooked roms I've tried.
I can't really think of any tangible benefits from using cooked roms, as this stock WM6 rom works well, and I can add any functionality I need by installing the right programs.
I use PointUI, so I would not benefit from the significant improvements to the WM gui that the cooks have produced.
However, I enjoy trying out new roms and seeing what the cooks come up with, so I may still do it anyway, just for the fun of it!
you are absolutely right and now i am going to downgrade to 6.0
GPS is nice to have on my phone but if I truly needed GPS I would have bought a truly more reliable (read: GPS Specific) device.
If I need directions I can still use Google Maps to plot the turns, on my own - like in the old days. *snicker*
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Now, I have an original HTC WM 6.0 Pro/ ROM 1.56.405.5/ Radio 1.27.12.11
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BTW: What version of HardSPL are you using?
Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
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Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
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Sorry, duh, I guess we aren't talking about the development of ROMS, eh?
why
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Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
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... perhaps because it considers WM6.1 ROM development in the context of the WM6 platform for the Kaiser.
@tabashir --> Threaded SMS use PocketCM. I would be interested in a free replacement to the WM6.1 threaded SMS but http://www.pocketcm.com/index.php does not contain any details of this. Can you throw some light on this. Thx
[Edit - OK found threaded SMS using pocket CM thanks - will check it out thanks]
Thanks for the replies all. Although no answers on why to prefer 6.1, at least I know I'm not completely insane in going back to WM6!
Have not gone the whole hog and gone to a stock ROM tho, have been having fun trying out some of the different cooked ones, albeit old as they are now. Am currently on Blackwood which with Radio 1.27.14.09 and SPL 3.29.
Like TasoM, have not had any freezes or non-responsiveness with WM6 so far which I guess is what the forum is all about, try them all and find what suits your circumstances. I do find the battery life 'seems' worse than when I was on 6.1 and the Emo radio.
Reply to convert > glad you found the threaded SMS. Lots of nice skins for it too. I don't use it personally as I find iContact faster and better for just contacts and I don't need threaded sms.
Reply to JimmyMcGee > The original question was aimed at the Chefs creating the WM6.1 Roms so I figured it better in the Development thread. However, I really don't mind if you move it to where you think it is more appropriate.
Now I gotta go play with PointUI, was not aware of that one before!
How's the video playback and game/ui performance on the stock 6.0?
a major one everyone is forgetting is the dev of the 3D drivers and soon(tm) 2D drivers that is a major reason a lot of people including me have moved on, another one is that when some major changes come in 6.1 i will not have major issues with upgrading my apps mms/sms etc... to the new ROM and not have to worry about radio's and hardspl as i would be already running it..
besides you guys forget, your running windows... i always reboot my phone and a good reason is because i change batteries so every 1-3days it will be rebooted, it mixes most of the small issues.
As far as GPS its always been the same, i havent ever bothered with GPS to be there for me, its just to aid me, i do use google maps which helps i never have used GPS to tell me were to drive i think that is insane, nor will i ever do it, i like to know exactly were to go and what my options are
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Hi all,
Having tried most of the recent ROMS and radios on this forum and have to give massive credit to the ingenuity and skill of the Chefs on here that there is so much choice available. However, I consistently had an issue with GPS fixes.The best initial fix time after a reset, or if I'd not used GPS for a few days, was about 1 minute outside in bright sunshine with no clouds. For cloudy weather this could go up to over 10 minutes. If I tried getting a fix inside at my desk which is next to the window, sometimes I would give up waiting as it just never got a fix (I realise that ordinarily you would not need GPS indoors, but it makes testing on a cold, wet day in the UK a lot easier...)
I tried pretty much everything in various GPS threads, using GPS Test, Quick GPS, disablng A-GPS etc and nothing consistently helped. I could not believe that the Kaiser was so much worse than my old Artemis.
One thread mentioned several folks downgrading to WM6 rather than 6.1 as they claimed this was better. I tried this and hey presto, I now get a cold fix in about 30 secs max, on a good day it can be 10-15 secs. At the same desk above, I get a fix in about 30 secs too. Not only that, my device in use seems to feel faster and things like screen rotate on opening the keyboard seem more so (this is subjective, not measured it).
This made me wonder what the advantages of WM6.1 actually are. From searching around, the list of things that apparently differ are :
Threaded SMS
Speed Increases
PIE Zoom Out
Task Manager
Office One Note
Of these, there are alternatives to most of them :
Threaded SMS use PocketCM,
PIE Zoom use Opera,
Task Manager - many alternatives,
One Note use TouchNotes and
Speed increase - I'm not convinced of in daily use.
However, all the chefs on this forum have moved over to 6.1 so I'm wondering that either the majority of people do not have GPS issues like I do or, as is exceptionally likely, there are other reasons that I do not know for preferring 6.1.
Any chefs out there fancy commenting on why you prefer 6.1 over 6.0 to save me from my ignorance?
Cheers,
Jez.
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Try the newer rom(s) with manilla 2D (hyperdragon III is currently the only one publicly available). Newer is better.
I too switched to 6.0
tabashir said:
Thanks for the replies all. Although no answers on why to prefer 6.1, at least I know I'm not completely insane in going back to WM6!
Have not gone the whole hog and gone to a stock ROM tho, have been having fun trying out some of the different cooked ones, albeit old as they are now. Am currently on Blackwood which with Radio 1.27.14.09 and SPL 3.29.
Like TasoM, have not had any freezes or non-responsiveness with WM6 so far which I guess is what the forum is all about, try them all and find what suits your circumstances. I do find the battery life 'seems' worse than when I was on 6.1 and the Emo radio.
Reply to convert > glad you found the threaded SMS. Lots of nice skins for it too. I don't use it personally as I find iContact faster and better for just contacts and I don't need threaded sms.
Reply to JimmyMcGee > The original question was aimed at the Chefs creating the WM6.1 Roms so I figured it better in the Development thread. However, I really don't mind if you move it to where you think it is more appropriate.
Now I gotta go play with PointUI, was not aware of that one before!
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I too switched to WM 6.0 and I think that I am much happier than with Dutty's ROM. Do not get me wrong, there was a lot of nice things in it. But I have a feeling that I would rather prefer stock HTC ROM and add some useful software. I have not tried stock HTC ROM in 6.1. I am curious if GPS works teh same as in 6.0 ROM?
To be honest, 6.0 is much stable and less problematic so far compare to 6.1.
Most of the 6.1 problems (e.g. cleartype landscape) have some workaround solutions. But problem like the famous Activesync 86000107 still doesn't have any solution yet.
For me, the only advantage of 6.1 is much faster startup time, and overall system performance.
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a major one everyone is forgetting is the dev of the 3D drivers and soon(tm) 2D drivers that is a major reason a lot of people including me have moved on
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The 2D drivers could be a real benefit, but there's no advantage for me or most people having the 3D drivers installed at the moment.
I'll probably give Hyperdragon with TouchFlo 2D a go, but I would not be suprised if I end up sticking pointUI on it and have the exact same functionality and aesthetics as the stock rom. I hope I'm wrong!
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I too switched to WM 6.0 and I think that I am much happier than with Dutty's ROM. Do not get me wrong, there was a lot of nice things in it. But I have a feeling that I would rather prefer stock HTC ROM and add some useful software. I have not tried stock HTC ROM in 6.1. I am curious if GPS works teh same as in 6.0 ROM?
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I am done with problem 86000107, I want to go back to WM 6.0, Where did you find the official WM 6.0 ROM World wide English, and did you need to install a HardSPL or not ????
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Danny K.
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Now we're talking little bout religion here, LoL.
There was times at beginning of WM6.1 issuance that with so many problems came with it i sometimes convert back to stock HTC WM6, or Schaps 4.30 (most good looking and well done cooked WM6 i tried). I remember it was only before July i keep converting back. Yett most of the time i did it only to get the feeling of what's right before and try to 'port' (find solution) the great feelings to the newer WM6.1.
Nowadays, WM6.1 already much familiarized by the chefs here and gained much tweaks. On a proper hand, it does make big difference in performance. My Kaiser is now running full fledged without any issues, it even have landscape cleartype enabled now for my liking (yet i don't do threaded sms). Faster, more stable, less power hungry, quicker gps fix, more instant screen rotation, than before.
Wow, what happened? It's because the wonder of this community, that's why. AFAIK, i have used several PDA and the conclusion is still the same: left to itself, Microsoft's (MS) product does sux big time. Without this community it will dragging its own feet to its graveyard. I think HTC at least a bit better than MS in adapting to market's demand (i truly belief many HTC engineers are member of this forum, much more than MS's). Cuz I saw some pattern in behaviour here.
Bottomline, WM6.1 is indeed much more problematic than WM6. Yet WM6 was also much more problematic than WM5, or 2003SE!
That's the way MS works, man, everytime they issue newer OS they try to include more functionalities, features, etc, while at the same time introducing more bugs than before. For example, who use windows vista here, care to share your experience with it? Cuz I don't. I even use winXP only after SP2 issued.
Never trust Micro$oft product! Just trust the power of users and communities who expanding it! Now my religion is not WM6.1, but rather, XDA-Devs. So in case next time XDA-Devs decided they have enough with WM,then i may join the convert to Android. Amen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WA-DdszBo0&feature=related
I know its the HD touchflo and its on the X1 but damn this runs fast. Is it the device thats doing this or the manila HD build? I know I have seen someone working on a port of HD Manila to run on VGA but the current built is very buggy and there has been very little updates on a more stable version. Out of the box, the manila runs pretty good on the fuze but as soon as you ad in some tweaks such as the original touch pro theme, it slows down big time. I have applied every tweak I know to improve touchflo 3d performance but its still not fast enough.
here the musicplayer starts in 3 seconds! and the pictures in 1 second and i have more than 2 gb of music
Mine seems to run that fast. What ROM are you using?
is the only way to get the touch HD touchflo on the raphael by flashing another rom?
If you flash the roms, will you lose all the software that comes with the phone? Such as pocket office? That's my only concern--if I flash ROMs, I want to be able to keep Pocket Word and Excel and what not.
Thanks.
99% of ROMs keep Office inside with only extreme "Light" ROMs removing it(the description will state if it doesn't). The things that will be missing on a cooked ROM is the hundreds of useless apps and demos designed by your provider to part you from your cash. Without them, your phone will run a lot lighter and faster.
I'd suggest flash Hard SPL and then go try every ROM you like the look of! Every single one will be faster than the factory one.
mine seems as fast, or faster (ok, not "faster")
I'm using the RRE ROM, and it's the fastest I've used. The rotation is near instant on it.
why does the sprint rom run better then romeos on the fuze? it has almost 130 mbs free for program
Mine runs just as fast as in the video. I have customized manila, have tons of apps installed, etc. I am using romeos 1.40. Try flashing a rom that didnt come from your service provider, you should see an improvement too
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Mine seems to run that fast. What ROM are you using?
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hey,
i dont have a custom rom yet! all original
customized tf3d with the 3 extra tabs, did some registrytweaks for it runs smooth and very fast
i was thinking all the people is complaining about the speed of the TP but mine is really fast original what speed am i going to expect when i flash a custom rom :|
Is there a way to get a similar touchflo 3d for the touch pro? I especially like that you can customize tabs. Anyway?
My rom from NATF works just as fast or faster
NATF's ROM is very slow for me, I don't know why. I am going to look into flashing something else tomorrow. Looks like ROMeOS might have v. 1.50 by then
Yea, I may flash to another ROM. I just noticed that "out of the box" the sprint version is way faster than at&t (stock rom) Even after you bypass the bloat in at&t ROM. Thx for info guys.
yeah the sprint rom has tons of free memory i was shocked and when you end all programs it doesnt seem to leak it always goes back to like 32 pct used
but i like my fuze once i flashed it. no complaints
I have a sprint touch pro2 and id like to use a faster and lighter version of windows. What is the recommended rom for this phone?
otakutrevan said:
I have a sprint touch pro2 and id like to use a faster and lighter version of windows. What is the recommended rom for this phone?
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What do you mean by "lighter" version?
IMHO, the stock ROM is the quickest ROM out. However, not by much. The custom roms out there (MightyMike's, NRG's, and many, many others, are pretty quick). Now, this says a lot, especially when you consider these ROMS include content designed to run on other phones having more CPU power & MEMORY.
If you're looking for low battery consumption, I would stick to the Stock Rom and use power saving tweaks: reducing backlighting, setting updates, such as send/receive, etc., to manual, and other tweaks. Just search here & you will find tons. You can also search at ppcgeeks.com for power saving tweaks.
Personally, I have gone through about 6 different custom ROMS and they are mostly the same regarding speed and battery consumption. Since I juice my TP2 whenever it's available (car, home, office), I rarely have issues. I'm on Energy's latest Dusk, and it's amazing.
You just might want to experiment with the different ROMS out there and see which one you prefer.
Good luck...and have fun!
NLogN said:
What do you mean by "lighter" version?
IMHO, the stock ROM is the quickest ROM out. However, not by much. The custom roms out there (MightyMike's, NRG's, and many, many others, are pretty quick). Now, this says a lot, especially when you consider these ROMS include content designed to run on other phones having more CPU power & MEMORY.
If you're looking for low battery consumption, I would stick to the Stock Rom and use power saving tweaks: reducing backlighting, setting updates, such as send/receive, etc., to manual, and other tweaks. Just search here & you will find tons. You can also search at ppcgeeks.com for power saving tweaks.
Personally, I have gone through about 6 different custom ROMS and they are mostly the same regarding speed and battery consumption. Since I juice my TP2 whenever it's available (car, home, office), I rarely have issues. I'm on Energy's latest Dusk, and it's amazing.
You just might want to experiment with the different ROMS out there and see which one you prefer.
Good luck...and have fun!
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I agree with NlogN. I have been toying with flashing a new ROM but I can't really find anything 'wrong' with the stock ROM. The only thing I think would be fun is to play with 6.5 and the new touchflo interface. Only thing holding me back is I don't know if you can use any of the ROM's for the Rhodium in landscape with the keyboard. That's the ROM I'm looking for but haven't seen. Do some youtube searches for 'TP2 ROM' or 'Touch Pro 2 ROM' and you'll find a bunch of videos that show Nrgz, MightyMike and Juicy. Check out the vid's and see what you think. Let us know what you decide!!
If you go with a ROM running WM6.5 and Sense 2.1, Landscape is fully functional. In fact, the MightyROM 12.6 is built off of the ROM extracted from the USCC TP2 with 6.5 and 2.1. It is not until you move to Manila 2.5 that landscape issues appear. Even WM 6.5.x works in landscape.
Thanks for the tip CeLIgUy!!! Now I think I'll give MightyROM a try. From experience, Verizon will take longer than usual to release their customized version of 6.5 and I'm tired of waiting. Now back to YouTube for a MightyROM review.....
Your welcome Sweena, and good luck!
Mighty Rom for sure.
I was running NRG's before, and I had 40mbs of ram OR LESS at all times. I couldn't run opera some times.
With Might I get 80 mb on his 6.5 version, 6.5.3 Starts at 100 mbs free I THINK ( dont hold me to it).
Sense 2.5 both of them.
Edit: I think NRG's Roms have a higher page pool, that eats up most of the ram, while Mightys dosent.
Mighty's is just as fast.
Another vote for the stock ROM. With a few cab tweaks, it's the fastest and most stable ROM I've run
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Another vote for the stock ROM. With a few cab tweaks, it's the fastest and most stable ROM I've run
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What tweaks do you recommend?
One i have is HD TWEAK.
Second is HTCAddicts cleanRAM.
Anything else?
I found this on PPCGeeks. not sure how it works though. I still need to wait for my TP2 to arrive.
stab244 said:
I found this on PPCGeeks. not sure how it works though. I still need to wait for my TP2 to arrive.
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MightyROM sense 2.1 version 1206 screams, has no issues, can use portrait and landscape and has tons of support, not that you'll need it at all. Just read the first few posts for his ROM on PPCGeeks and you'll be fine. If you want to stay with the stock rom , the link above has a file that was built with multiple tweaks in it and is highly recommended. It contains most tweaks you would want for speed, memory, battery life, etc. I would recommend it if you want to stay on the stock ROM and if you want a very smooth, fast, stable 6.5 sense 2.1 ROM that is basically stock, go with Mighty's 1206 version. He also does have 3 project ROM's he's working on one with 2.5, one 6.5.X and one that merges both, but I think the 6.5.x is the most stable with landscape and MMS of the project ROMs. Have fun.
Just found this rom. Looks sweet.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=102276
I find I switch between Mighty's and Energy roms. I also find that they are faster, often times more reliable (few memory issues), and have more goodies than the stock rom. Plus they provide updated HTC changes, such has the facebook fixes and whatnot.
Argh... I was planning on using a cooked ROM, but I want to know if any of them have Office Mobile included. Document editting on the go is kind of necessary for me...
stab244 said:
Argh... I was planning on using a cooked ROM, but I want to know if any of them have Office Mobile included. Document editting on the go is kind of necessary for me...
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Office is available for free via Windows Marketplace. However, most custom ROMs do include it.
CeLlgUy said:
Office is available for free via Windows Marketplace. However, most custom ROMs do include it.
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Alright cool. Thank you.
With that out of the way, what's the most stable custom-ROM out there?
If you go with anything that simply runs 6.5 with sense 2.1, you should find stability to be a non-issue. Once you move into the realm of more experimental stuff, like windows 6.5.x and/or manila 2.5 you may loose some stability. So just dig through the ROM's and just try different ones. I waited until I had a day off work before I did my first TP2 flash and tried about a dozen ROM's. XDA is really more of a GSM site, go to PPCGeeks.com for a more robust selection of CDMA ROM's.
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If you go with anything that simply runs 6.5 with sense 2.1, you should find stability to be a non-issue. Once you move into the realm of more experimental stuff, like windows 6.5.x and/or manila 2.5 you may loose some stability. So just dig through the ROM's and just try different ones. I waited until I had a day off work before I did my first TP2 flash and tried about a dozen ROM's. XDA is really more of a GSM site, go to PPCGeeks.com for a more robust selection of CDMA ROM's.
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Alright. I'll see what I can do. And thanks for the tips!