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Trading E-ten M600+ for simmilair device

I have a E-ten M600+ and i want to trade it ONLY in the Netherlands for an other similair device like an HTC Atom, HTC tytn, HTC Trinity, Fujitsu-siemens loox t830 or another device with at least:
-wifi
-bluetooth
->2MP camera
-mini usb connect
->400mhz
Willing to pay some extra for the HTC tytn or HTC Trinity
The specs of the E-ten M600+
proc:400MHz
ram:64/256!
wifi
bt 2.0
2mp camera (flash)
Clear screen
cradle with battery charger (with usb host)
2nd battery
2GB SD card
Quadband GSM / GPRS: 850/900/1800/1900
Microsoft Windows Mobile 5.0
111.7 x 60.7 x 22 mm weight: 165 g (inc. battery)
Standbytijd: 150 - 200 uur
65.536 TFT LCD (240 x 320);
Garantie:another 17 months

NEW -- HTC Touch Pro

Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
2.8 inches VGA DISPLAY
Camera 3.15 MP, autofocus, flash
Battery 1340 mAh
Built-in GPS receiver
288MB RAM
512 MB ROM
528 Mhz processor
Wi-Fi
microSD slot
for more info
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518

How long before we have a ported ROM for Kaiser?

FYI - portions of the WinCE the Diamond uses along with some of the updated HTC programs have already been "ported" to the Kaiser and other HTC phones.

HTC Raphael goes wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael

this is a sick ass phone!

How long to US release. Its obvious the touch pro will NOT work in the US which is extremly retarted!

nice looking phone

Out with the credit card. Again.

I-Mate Ultimate 9502 for sale - Brand New

Hey guys,
Following my success selling stuff on here before I thought I'd try my 9502. Basically, my 9502 was faulty so I-Mate have sent me a brand new one, boxed with all acessories and unlocked to any network. I haven't even opened it yet.
I really want a Touch Pro so I'm going to sell this as brand new (or would accept a trade).
It still retails at about £440 so I would accept about £390 or reasonable offers.
I'm sure most of you will know the specs, but here they are in a nutshell:
- Platform Microsoft® Windows Mobile® 6.0 Professional (upgradabe to WM6.1)
- Processor/ Chipset • 400 MHz Qualcomm® MSM 7200™
- Memory 256 MB ROM 128 MB RAM
- 2.8” VGA (640×480) Touch-screen
- GSM / GPRS / EDGE/HSDPA/HSUPA
- Quad-band 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
- 3.0 Megapixel auto-focus camera with LED Compensation light and VGA camera for Video Calls
- WiFi 802.11 b/g
- Inbuilt GPS compatible with Tomtom etc.
- Full qwerty keyboard.
-Connect to a TV or projector with the included cable.
Reply or PM me for more details/offers.

Chronology of all sliding keyboard devices - Wizard>Herald>Titan>Hermes>Kaiser>...

Chronology of all sliding keyboard devices - Wizard>Herald>Titan>Hermes>Kaiser>...
Back in the day, there were only a few choices of proper business devices with those nice sliding out thumb-boards. Nowadays it seems they are popping up all over the place.
To make it clear, I am NOT talking about those devices with both the screen and keyboard together on the front of the device, it is too cramped in my opinion.
So I want to rank the devices, from worst to best, which is sometimes from oldest to newest.
All Phones:
Full slide out thumbboard (meant for two hand use)
microSD slot (SDHC compatible)
Bluetooth 2.0+
Wifi
Quad band GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
CSD, GPRS, EDGE
Mini USB combo jack for data transfer, charging, and headset
USB 1.0 (unless otherwise noted)
Windows Mobile (unless otherwise noted)
1. HTC Wizard
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Texas Instruments OMAP 850 @ 195 MHz
64MB RAM, 128MB Flash ROM
1.3MP camera
58 x 108 x 23.7 millimetres
Battery: 1250mAh
2. HTC Herald
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Texas Instruments OMAP 850 @ 201 MHz
64MB RAM, 128MB Flash ROM
2.0MP camera
2.3 x 4.3 x 0.7 inches
Battery: 1130mAh
3. HTC Titan
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Qualcomm MSM7500 @ 400 MHz
64MB RAM, 256MB Flash ROM
2.0MP camera
4.33” x 2.32” x 0.73”
Battery: 1500mAh
CDMA Only (no GSM)
GPS
4. HTC Hermes
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Samsung SC32442A @ 400 MHz
64MB RAM, 128MB Flash ROM
2.0MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
4.33” x 2.32” x 0.73”
Battery: 1350mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Scroll and Push Wheel
5. HTC Kaiser (TyTN II)
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Qualcomm MSM 7200 @ 400 MHz
128MB RAM, 256MB Flash ROM
3.0MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
112mm (L) X 59mm (W) X 19mm (T)
Battery: 1350mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Scroll and Push Wheel
6. HTC Raphael (Touch Pro)
2.8 in flat TFT-LCD 480 X 640
Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM 11 @ 528 MHz
288MB RAM, 512MB Flash ROM
3.2MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
102 mm (4.0 in) (h) 51 mm (2.0 in) (w) 18.05 mm (0.711 in) (d)
Battery: 1340mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G), HSUPA
GPS
7. HTC Dream (aka G1) [Google Android OS]
3.2 in TFT-LCD 480 X 320
Dual-core CPU/GPU Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM11 (528MHz) @ 384Mhz
192MB DDR SDRAM, 256MB Flash ROM
Quad band GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Dual band UMTS 1700 / 2100
3.2MP camera with autofocus.
117.7 mm x 55.7 mm x 17.1 mm
Battery: 1150mAh
Accelerometer, digital compass, GPS
USB 2.0
8. Sony Ericsson Xperia X1
3.0 in flat TFT-LCD 800 X 480
ARM 11 Qualcomm MSM7200A @ 528 MHz with ARM9 @ 256 MHz 2nd core
256MB RAM, 512MB Flash ROM
3.2MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
110 x 53 x 16.7 mm
Battery: 1340mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G), HSUPA
GPS, Accelerometer
USB 2.0
9. HTC Rhodium (Touch Pro 2)
3.6 in flat TFT-LCD 480 X 800
Qualcomm MSM7200 @ 528MHz
288MB RAM, 512MB Flash ROM
3.2MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
116 X 59.2 X 17.25 mm (4.57 X 2.33 X 0.68 inches)
Battery: 1500mAh
WCDMA, UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Accelerometer, GPS, TV-out
USB 2.0
10. Acer m900
3.6 in flat TFT-LCD 480 X 800
Samsung SC3 6410 @ 533 MHz
128 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM
5MP camera
4.69 x 2.44 x 0.67 inches (119 x 62 x 17.1 mm)
Battery: 1530mAh
WCDMA, UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G), HSUPA
Fingerprint ID sensor, GPS, FM Radio with RDS
USB 2.0
11. Samsung Omnia Pro
3.5 in flat AMOLED 800 x 480
Marvell PXA3XX @ 800MHz
288MB RAM, 1024MB Flash ROM
5MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
112.6 x 57.8 x 16.2 mm
Battery: 1500mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Accelerometer?, GPS, TV-out
USB 2.0
I will add more as I find them and have time. In the meantime, feel free to suggest more!
Also note: I did not include any of the Nokia phones such as the Nokia N97, because in my mind it is not in the same class as these devices (i.e. Business professional)

Doesn't the Samsung i730 qualify?

Very interesting comparison...good job! I'm looking forward to getting the TP2!

TheBundo said:
Doesn't the Samsung i730 qualify?
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I just want to include those with full thumbboards... if I included the i730 then I would probably have to include the Palm PRE... I think that might be a good comparison as well, all the devices with a one hand thumbboard slider.

I like it lots. Each one was GSM, but titan wasn't??? Maybe include Acer m900?

whatledog said:
I like it lots. Each one was GSM, but titan wasn't??? Maybe include Acer m900?
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Acer m900 included, can't believe I forgot that one....
What do you mean about the Titan not being GSM?

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the titan was the sprint mogul, which doesn't use GSM, hence the incongruity of the sequence of phones.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the titan was the sprint mogul, which doesn't use GSM, hence the incongruity of the sequence of phones.

whatledog said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the titan was the sprint mogul, which doesn't use GSM, hence the incongruity of the sequence of phones.
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Perhaps in some places it did not have GSM, but all the models I know of and encountered all ran GSM.
See the Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_TyTN

The titan was cdma. The TyTN was the hermes, which I had as a 8525, I think. 2 different dogs.

Ah yes, the TyTN is not the Titan... I fixed that now... can they be more confusing?

Yeah, well the joke's on you, because if you add the titan, you need to add the htc apache. Plus there's the MWg Zinc, etc., quite a few of them...But enough is enough!

What about the E-TEN devices? You know, Glofish and the like... (http://www.glofiish.com/) M700, M750, M800, M810

i know the keyboard didn't slide but the universal was pretty sweet

HTC Touch2 rom:touchflo 3D in QVGA...

the new HTC touch2 is expected to be released this october...I can't help but to get too excited coz hopefully a cooked ROM of it would be release for HTC kaiser...working Touchflo 3D is included in the package and it's in QVGA

nuvkyl20 said:
the new HTC touch2 is expected to be released this october...I can't help but to get too excited coz hopefully a cooked ROM of it would be release for HTC kaiser...working Touchflo 3D is included in the package and it's in QVGA
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But that still doesn't get us the drivers we need to work TF3D

What's the spec of the machine?

Here's the specification:
Model HTC Touch2 (T3333)
Processor Qualcomm® MSM7225™, 528 MHz
Operating System Windows Mobile® 6.5 Professional
Memory ROM: 512 MB
RAM: 256 MB
Dimensions (LxWxT) 104 X 55 X 12.9 mm (4.1 X 2.16 X 0.51 inches)
Weight 110 grams (4 ounces) with battery
Display 2.8-inch TFT-LCD touch-sensitive screen with QVGA resolution
Network HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent.)
Device Control Zoom bar
GPS Internal GPS antenna
Connectivity Bluetooth® 2.1 with Enhanced Data Rate and A2DP for wireless stereo headsets
Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g
3.5 mm audio jack
HTC ExtUSB™ (11-pin mini-USB 2.0)
Camera 3.2 megapixel color camera with fixed focus
Audio supported formats AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, AMR-NB, QCP, MP3, WMA, WAV, MIDI, M4A
Video supported formats WMV, ASF, MP4, 3GP, 3G2, M4V, AVI
Battery Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery
Capacity: 1100 mAh
Talk time:
Up to 370 minutes for WCDMA
Up to 440 minutes for GSM
Standby time:
Up to 500 hours for WCDMA
Up to 370 hours for GSM
(The above are subject to network and phone usage.)
Expansion Slot microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)
AC Adapter Voltage range/frequency: 100 ~ 240V AC, 50/60 Hz
DC output: 5V and 1A

Mega
nuvkyl20 said:
Here's the specification:
Model HTC Touch2 (T3333)
Processor Qualcomm® MSM7225™, 528 MHz
Operating System Windows Mobile® 6.5 Professional
Memory ROM: 512 MB
RAM: 256 MB
Dimensions (LxWxT) 104 X 55 X 12.9 mm (4.1 X 2.16 X 0.51 inches)
Weight 110 grams (4 ounces) with battery
Display 2.8-inch TFT-LCD touch-sensitive screen with QVGA resolution
Network HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent.)
Device Control Zoom bar
GPS Internal GPS antenna
Connectivity Bluetooth® 2.1 with Enhanced Data Rate and A2DP for wireless stereo headsets
Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g
3.5 mm audio jack
HTC ExtUSB™ (11-pin mini-USB 2.0)
Camera 3.2 megapixel color camera with fixed focus
Audio supported formats AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, AMR-NB, QCP, MP3, WMA, WAV, MIDI, M4A
Video supported formats WMV, ASF, MP4, 3GP, 3G2, M4V, AVI
Battery Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery
Capacity: 1100 mAh
Talk time:
Up to 370 minutes for WCDMA
Up to 440 minutes for GSM
Standby time:
Up to 500 hours for WCDMA
Up to 370 hours for GSM
(The above are subject to network and phone usage.)
Expansion Slot microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)
AC Adapter Voltage range/frequency: 100 ~ 240V AC, 50/60 Hz
DC output: 5V and 1A
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Maybe you are talking about htc Mega? it will not have the TF3D but on TF2D and its already ported to qvga devices..

chinhe said:
Maybe you are talking about htc Mega? it will not have the TF3D but on TF2D and its already ported to qvga devices..
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reading the specs it seems a native QVGA not a porting from..

nuvkyl20 said:
the new HTC touch2 is expected to be released this october...I can't help but to get too excited coz hopefully a cooked ROM of it would be release for HTC kaiser...working Touchflo 3D is included in the package and it's in QVGA
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Nope ! TF2D in Mega version will be included in the package... Not TF3D !

chinhe said:
Maybe you are talking about htc Mega? it will not have the TF3D but on TF2D and its already ported to qvga devices..
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It is the HTC mega, and I too believe it's TF2D and not 3D

- shifu - said:
reading the specs it seems a native QVGA not a porting from..
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oh sorry i meant to "other" qvga devices

It is not gonna be TF3D QVGA...
The new Touch2, who, by the way, looks SWEET, is gonna be with a TF2D version with just some clock animations and weather animations. Surely it's gonna work superb, due to full software drivers for 2D and 3D for gaming, but still, it is not gonna be TF3D in QVGA. Hopefully i did'nt disapoint anyone.
Waiting now for the erly review by phonearena or phonedog, or someone, but still the phone looks SWEET and for many enthusiasts - it's got WM 6.5!!!

oks..sorry if i were mistaken..maybe its just an animated version of touchflo 2D after all, clock display imitate that of the TF3D version though..
Overview is here: http://www.htc.com/www/product/touch2/overview.html

looks very nice

It has to be a TF3D. No way it can be ported to Kaiser.

or maybe we could just use shifu's v17 rom and change the digital clock font and clock background just like the one in TF3D....

byron0318 said:
or maybe we could just use shifu's v17 rom and change the digital clock font and clock background just like the one in TF3D....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4518294&postcount=285
Should just need hh_hm_colon.png/hh_hm_digit_0.png - hh_hm_digit_9.png don't think will need to edit .xml but without seeing i don't know

ill try to edit hh_hm_colon.png/hh_hm_digit_0.png - hh_hm_digit_9.png. ill post what i can acomplish....