NEW -- HTC Touch Pro - General Topics

Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
2.8 inches VGA DISPLAY
Camera 3.15 MP, autofocus, flash
Battery 1340 mAh
Built-in GPS receiver
288MB RAM
512 MB ROM
528 Mhz processor
Wi-Fi
microSD slot
for more info
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518

How long before we have a ported ROM for Kaiser?

FYI - portions of the WinCE the Diamond uses along with some of the updated HTC programs have already been "ported" to the Kaiser and other HTC phones.

HTC Raphael goes wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael

this is a sick ass phone!

How long to US release. Its obvious the touch pro will NOT work in the US which is extremly retarted!

nice looking phone

Out with the credit card. Again.

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Check It Out The Xda Flame!

HERE
http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaFlame/template/XdaFlameFeatures.vm
WTF IS IT COMING TO THE UK?
Looks cool, but no GPS?
Only for Asia
good/nogood
Good
3.6” TFT VGA LCD
NO good
Dimensions: Approx. 126(L) x 74(W) x17.5(T) mm; Weight with battery: 190g
But: who is the manifacturer?
w_s
for petes sake!
hdubli said:
Only for Asia
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WHAT!!!!!!
O and it is made by Asus!
S1MB4D said:
WHAT!!!!!!
O and it is made by Asus!
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nope
arima communication
its a gd pda phone
big is the idea as i find nowadays pda is hard to c!
tatsdiy.com got a TV OUT demo on its site
At last!
Official launch date is May 15.
I see this unit as being the long awaited upgrade to my XDA2, the dimensions are very similar but it is lightyears ahead in all specs and blows away the competition. This is what htc should have been working on instead of moving its product line towards a smartphone design.
O2 asia said they would offer a free upgrade to WM6 once they have tested it.
The USB OTG will be a huge benefit, meaning this PPC will no longer be tied to synchronization with a PC - you can use it with USB flash drives, printers, cameras etc.
IMHO, this is the best all round package you can currently buy and well worth importing it if you want a XDA2 replacement. The presentation is a bit disappointing though, pretty bland but everything else is spot on.
its available in Singapore already, priced currently at SGD1498
lmf_slacker said:
its available in Singapore already, priced currently at SGD1498
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hmm, IMHO, that looks like cheap launch price as compared to what HTC universal debuted there
It's the only PDA I know with an embedded dedicated graphics card. Here are the specs (at the store):
Memory: 128MB RAM (DUDE!), 2112MB ROM
Processor: 520mhz PXA270 (um.)
Band: Triband GSM, 3.5G
Connectivity: BT2.0, Wifi B/G, Consumer-level IR(DA)
Graphics: Nvidia GoForce 5500 (not to be confused with the GeForce Go used in Laptops, but this will help A LOT.)
Features:
USB (OTG!)
TV-Out
SRS-Audio
microSD slot (why not a standard SD? <_<)
And that's that. My only complaint is that ve haff no FM Radio - I'm not too hot about GPS yet - but methinks an iTech Clip should solve that... >_>
Anyone wants to donate $1500? -.-
Ultimate Chicken said:
My only complaint is that ve haff no FM Radio
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It has FM radio
<_< ok, I just went back to the store. Mentioned nowhere on the brochure or flyer at all. It's something that's marketable so I don't see why it won't be mentioned unless it's not there.
I think its rediculous that they release it without WM6. I am sure they will offer an upgrade path though. Sweet phone...
I was getting ready to get it when I noticed there is no EGPRS
Living in GSM 3G deprived NA and being quite ok with EGPRS (but not GPRS) speeds I can live with that, but as far as I can tell there is no EGPRS on this one
I know sometimes manufacturers will just say GPRS and it includes both EDGE and GPRS but I have a feeling that this is not the case with the Flame?
AFAIK EGPRS is a SW thing only, so would a hack be thinkable?
Is this not an HTC made device or?
FM Radio w/RDS
Ultimate Chicken said:
It's the only PDA I know with an embedded dedicated graphics card. Here are the specs (at the store):
Memory: 128MB RAM (DUDE!), 2112MB ROM
Processor: 520mhz PXA270 (um.)
Band: Triband GSM, 3.5G
Connectivity: BT2.0, Wifi B/G, Consumer-level IR(DA)
Graphics: Nvidia GoForce 5500 (not to be confused with the GeForce Go used in Laptops, but this will help A LOT.)
Features:
USB (OTG!)
TV-Out
SRS-Audio
microSD slot (why not a standard SD? <_<)
And that's that. My only complaint is that ve haff no FM Radio - I'm not too hot about GPS yet - but methinks an iTech Clip should solve that... >_>
Anyone wants to donate $1500? -.-
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You must have missed this part....
Audio:
Speakerphone
Stereo speaker
SRS WOW HD (surround sound experience)
FM Radio with RDS function
I think I will wait for
ETEN Glofiish X800
Specification:
# Windows Mobile 6 Professional
# 400Mhz 32bit Samsung SC32442 CPU (= XScale PXA270 CPU @ 520MHz)
# 128MB ROM, 64MB RAM
# VGA (480x640) Touchscreen
# GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS2100
# CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA
# SDIO, microSD, TransFlash
# WiFi: 802.11b, 802.11g
# GPS: SiRF Star III , 20 channels
# Bluetooth 2.0
# 2 Megapixel primary camera
# Front mounted VGA camera for Video calling
# 1530 mAh Lithium Polymer Battery
# 113.5x60.5x15.8 mm
# FM radio
# 160 grams
due out late August 2007
eprana said:
I think I will wait for
ETEN Glofiish X800
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Although..the X800 has almost one inch smaller screen
^ And internal memory, including system RAM, beat the pants off pretty much everything except the Dopod U1000. About the only thing it loses out to the X800 is the GPS.
You must have missed this part....
Audio:
Speakerphone
Stereo speaker
SRS WOW HD (surround sound experience)
FM Radio with RDS function
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I didn't, I mentioned "SRS Sound", and I refuse to quote stereo speaker and speakerphone since those are pretty much part and parcel of PPCs since 2002. As for FM Radio, yeah, my bad. I've since confirmed that it has an FM radio, but it's just not mentioned in the fliers. Rock on <_<
Ultimate Chicken said:
^ And internal memory, including system RAM, beat the pants off pretty much everything except the Dopod U1000. About the only thing it loses out to the X800 is the GPS.
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Dopod U100 is such a large and akward device though, I've had an O2 and iMate branded one but don't want one again...
Have been using it for nearly a week. Here's my impression:
- It's big, but not too big for shirt and jeans pocket (without any case)
- Sturdy made - much much better than the XDA trion, which is my last machine.
- Quite responsive, above average, but see battery
- Not many bundled software - no backup, UI tweak,launcher etc. and I don't like the task manager (O2 menu); it does have a better alarm and a basic wireless manager though
- Not enough buttons! (2 side buttons on the left; +/- button and camera button on the right; L/R softkeys + start and ok buttons + Call/Cancel buttons in the front) That's it. No jog dial, no calendar / contact buttons, no hold button
- Auto-focus camera with led. One word - SWEET
- 128mb RAM and 2 gig rom ... finally, this people have some sense
- Battery life, now this can be a problem. The PXA family is not known for its battery saving ability (I think the samsung 400 is better), and with a huge screen and ram to boot, I'm sure if you use the performance setting (520 mhz) and use it a lot (gaming, wireless), it won't last for even a day. It is highly recommended that you use programmes like XCPU scalar to scale the the speed to 208 when the machine is idle, and max it at 416 (which is enough for most programmes). Then the battery life will be acceptable.
- Bluetooth, crap. Not entirely O2's fault, but how come after so many years MS(uxK) still can't get it right!? I used to own the XDAIIs and the broadcom stack is much better. I tried iTech and Jarba - the call part is ok but the music part is still not done right. Let's hope with the WM6 upgrade things will be better.
Casio A-10 > Casio E250 > Mio 338 > Asus 620BT > Loox720 > XDAIIs > Asus P525 > iPAC 6818 > XDA Trion > O2 Flame

new smartphone HTC S740 (diamond)

htc make HTC S740 smartphone
on europe market about september
WCDMA/HSDPA 900/2100 МГц, GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 МГц
Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard
Qualcomm MSM7225, 528 МГц
2,4-QVGA-display
3,2-camera
256 Mb ROM, 256 Mb RAM
microSD-slot
Wi-Fi 802.11b/g
Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
GPS/AGPS
HTC ExtUSB
Battery 1000 мАч
time speak - till 320 min (WCDMA), till 380 min (GSM)
waiting - till 400 hours (WCDMA), till 280 hours (GSM)
size - 116,3x43,4x16,3 мм
weight - 140 gr
don't know have 3D touch or not
maybe it's help us with some porting ?
HTC Announces S740
guys looks like HTC has braught out nother diamond style phone for us to check out. This one is running wm6.1 Standard.
Here are some specs.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008...s740-think-touch-pros-baby-brother/#more-4823
well, i'd rather have a not-sexy touch pro with no t9 than this with little screen.

Some Athena 2 expected specs

Hi guys,
After the dreadfull Athena X7501 series and the great X7510 here is the next gen stuff!
found on http://bbs.pdafans.com/redirect.php?tid=692850&goto=lastpost these specs were stated: info or else it is up to you to decide i can't confirm
[new product news] [HTC Advantage/dopod U1000] U1000 true promotion type model: HTC-THOTH may determine at present what is System WM 6.5 CPU Qualcomm 8250 1GMHz 512MB ROM 256MB RAM the 500W automatic focusing camera screen is 4.8 inch WVGA More detailed information ask g.cn to search overseas website HTC THOTH
Some higher quality pics at
http://gb.financenews.sina.com/mobile/n/2009-02-13/09242820406.shtml
Cheers,
HTC THOTH: More Details
More details on the HTC THOTH: http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=266955
HTC Thoth
The successor to the HTC Athena -- AKA the HTC Advantage series -- will apparently be the HTC Thoth. According to both unconfirmed sources, it will use the same general shape as the current model: a tablet with a large display and a detachable keyboard (see image at left).
The Thoth will supposedly sport a WVGA touchscreen that's considerably larger than the one on the Whitestone: 4.8 inches.
It will run Windows Mobile 6.5 Pro on a 1 GHz Qualcomm processor and sport 256 MB of RAM and a 5 MPx camera.
It is expected to hit the market in September.
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Qualcomm Processor again? I hope it does utilize it's full potential this time.

Chronology of all sliding keyboard devices - Wizard>Herald>Titan>Hermes>Kaiser>...

Chronology of all sliding keyboard devices - Wizard>Herald>Titan>Hermes>Kaiser>...
Back in the day, there were only a few choices of proper business devices with those nice sliding out thumb-boards. Nowadays it seems they are popping up all over the place.
To make it clear, I am NOT talking about those devices with both the screen and keyboard together on the front of the device, it is too cramped in my opinion.
So I want to rank the devices, from worst to best, which is sometimes from oldest to newest.
All Phones:
Full slide out thumbboard (meant for two hand use)
microSD slot (SDHC compatible)
Bluetooth 2.0+
Wifi
Quad band GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
CSD, GPRS, EDGE
Mini USB combo jack for data transfer, charging, and headset
USB 1.0 (unless otherwise noted)
Windows Mobile (unless otherwise noted)
1. HTC Wizard
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Texas Instruments OMAP 850 @ 195 MHz
64MB RAM, 128MB Flash ROM
1.3MP camera
58 x 108 x 23.7 millimetres
Battery: 1250mAh
2. HTC Herald
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Texas Instruments OMAP 850 @ 201 MHz
64MB RAM, 128MB Flash ROM
2.0MP camera
2.3 x 4.3 x 0.7 inches
Battery: 1130mAh
3. HTC Titan
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Qualcomm MSM7500 @ 400 MHz
64MB RAM, 256MB Flash ROM
2.0MP camera
4.33” x 2.32” x 0.73”
Battery: 1500mAh
CDMA Only (no GSM)
GPS
4. HTC Hermes
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Samsung SC32442A @ 400 MHz
64MB RAM, 128MB Flash ROM
2.0MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
4.33” x 2.32” x 0.73”
Battery: 1350mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Scroll and Push Wheel
5. HTC Kaiser (TyTN II)
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Qualcomm MSM 7200 @ 400 MHz
128MB RAM, 256MB Flash ROM
3.0MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
112mm (L) X 59mm (W) X 19mm (T)
Battery: 1350mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Scroll and Push Wheel
6. HTC Raphael (Touch Pro)
2.8 in flat TFT-LCD 480 X 640
Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM 11 @ 528 MHz
288MB RAM, 512MB Flash ROM
3.2MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
102 mm (4.0 in) (h) 51 mm (2.0 in) (w) 18.05 mm (0.711 in) (d)
Battery: 1340mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G), HSUPA
GPS
7. HTC Dream (aka G1) [Google Android OS]
3.2 in TFT-LCD 480 X 320
Dual-core CPU/GPU Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM11 (528MHz) @ 384Mhz
192MB DDR SDRAM, 256MB Flash ROM
Quad band GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Dual band UMTS 1700 / 2100
3.2MP camera with autofocus.
117.7 mm x 55.7 mm x 17.1 mm
Battery: 1150mAh
Accelerometer, digital compass, GPS
USB 2.0
8. Sony Ericsson Xperia X1
3.0 in flat TFT-LCD 800 X 480
ARM 11 Qualcomm MSM7200A @ 528 MHz with ARM9 @ 256 MHz 2nd core
256MB RAM, 512MB Flash ROM
3.2MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
110 x 53 x 16.7 mm
Battery: 1340mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G), HSUPA
GPS, Accelerometer
USB 2.0
9. HTC Rhodium (Touch Pro 2)
3.6 in flat TFT-LCD 480 X 800
Qualcomm MSM7200 @ 528MHz
288MB RAM, 512MB Flash ROM
3.2MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
116 X 59.2 X 17.25 mm (4.57 X 2.33 X 0.68 inches)
Battery: 1500mAh
WCDMA, UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Accelerometer, GPS, TV-out
USB 2.0
10. Acer m900
3.6 in flat TFT-LCD 480 X 800
Samsung SC3 6410 @ 533 MHz
128 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM
5MP camera
4.69 x 2.44 x 0.67 inches (119 x 62 x 17.1 mm)
Battery: 1530mAh
WCDMA, UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G), HSUPA
Fingerprint ID sensor, GPS, FM Radio with RDS
USB 2.0
11. Samsung Omnia Pro
3.5 in flat AMOLED 800 x 480
Marvell PXA3XX @ 800MHz
288MB RAM, 1024MB Flash ROM
5MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
112.6 x 57.8 x 16.2 mm
Battery: 1500mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Accelerometer?, GPS, TV-out
USB 2.0
I will add more as I find them and have time. In the meantime, feel free to suggest more!
Also note: I did not include any of the Nokia phones such as the Nokia N97, because in my mind it is not in the same class as these devices (i.e. Business professional)
Doesn't the Samsung i730 qualify?
Very interesting comparison...good job! I'm looking forward to getting the TP2!
TheBundo said:
Doesn't the Samsung i730 qualify?
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I just want to include those with full thumbboards... if I included the i730 then I would probably have to include the Palm PRE... I think that might be a good comparison as well, all the devices with a one hand thumbboard slider.
I like it lots. Each one was GSM, but titan wasn't??? Maybe include Acer m900?
whatledog said:
I like it lots. Each one was GSM, but titan wasn't??? Maybe include Acer m900?
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Acer m900 included, can't believe I forgot that one....
What do you mean about the Titan not being GSM?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the titan was the sprint mogul, which doesn't use GSM, hence the incongruity of the sequence of phones.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the titan was the sprint mogul, which doesn't use GSM, hence the incongruity of the sequence of phones.
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the titan was the sprint mogul, which doesn't use GSM, hence the incongruity of the sequence of phones.
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Perhaps in some places it did not have GSM, but all the models I know of and encountered all ran GSM.
See the Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_TyTN
The titan was cdma. The TyTN was the hermes, which I had as a 8525, I think. 2 different dogs.
Ah yes, the TyTN is not the Titan... I fixed that now... can they be more confusing?
Yeah, well the joke's on you, because if you add the titan, you need to add the htc apache. Plus there's the MWg Zinc, etc., quite a few of them...But enough is enough!
What about the E-TEN devices? You know, Glofish and the like... (http://www.glofiish.com/) M700, M750, M800, M810
i know the keyboard didn't slide but the universal was pretty sweet

Is it worth dropping my physical keyboard?

Right now I got a phone with a physical keyboard (iPAQ Data Messenger to be exact). And I love the keyboard. Now I'm thinking about getting a new phone, but there's almost nothing good out there with a physical keyboard. So I'm thinking about dropping that requirement and going for a virtual (software) keyboard.
Yet, how are you guys experience with virtual keyboards? I've gotten so used to my physical keyboard, have always had physical ones. How is typing on a virtual keyboard? Do note that I like to write mails, long texts and such.
Dont drop the keyboard. If you like to write long things, definitely do not drop it.
Sticking to a virtual keyboard effectivly gives me 3 choices.
Nokia N900
OS: Maemo 5
Screen: 800 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches
Camera: 5 MP, 2576x1936 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, autofocus, Dual LED flash, video light
Video: WVGA(848 x 480)@25fps
CPU: ARM Cortex A8 600 MHz, PowerVR SGX530 graphics
Sony Ericsson Vivaz Pro
OS: Symbian Series 60, 5th edition
Screen: 360 x 640 pixels, 3.2 inches
Camera: 5 MP, 2560х1920 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Video: [email protected], continuous autofocus, video light
CPU: 720 MHz, PowerVR SGX graphics
Samsung B7610 OmniaPRO
OS: Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional, upgradeable to Windows Mobile 6.5
Screen: 800 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches
Camera: 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Video: Yes, [email protected] (D1)
CPU: Samsung S3C6410 800MHz processor, dedicated graphics accelerator
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I don't like the design of the N900. But I'm interested about Maemo 5. Yet I don't really trust Nokia anymore.
The Vivaz Pro is definitly the best looking one, yet it's screensize and resolution ain't nothing to write home about. The 720p HD Video recording is an amazing feature. It runs Symbian, but SE give it their own little touch.
The OmniaPRO runs Windows Mobile. Although it's fully reskinned with Samsung's TouchWiz, it's still Windows Mobile.
Is the TP2 disqualified for some reason?
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Is the TP2 disqualified for some reason?
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It lacks a 3.5mm jack (which even my iPAQ does now and I hate).
Underneath it all, it's still Windows Mobile. Which I'm slowly trying to move away from until WP7. It's camera is HORRIBLE.
Rounding it all up it's just my iPAQ with a bigger resolution and TouchFLO3D.
The only plus on it is the keyboard. The keyboard is so perfect and allows me to type very fast.
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It lacks a 3.5mm jack (which even my iPAQ does now and I hate).
Underneath it all, it's still Windows Mobile. Which I'm slowly trying to move away from until WP7. It's camera is HORRIBLE.
Rounding it all up it's just my iPAQ with a bigger resolution and TouchFLO3D.
The only plus on it is the keyboard. The keyboard is so perfect and allows me to type very fast.
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Understood, just wanted to make sure you had at least considered it, since the keyboard is unequalled (IMO). I certainly understand if it doesn't meet your requirements otherwise.
I just checked this vid:
I tried to race the guy and beat him by just 1 second. Now I'm really considering going with a virtual keyboard.
Virtual keyboards are great as long as the screen is big enough (at least 3.5") and the device has a multi-touch keyboard (I dont think the standard HTC keyboard for android is). I can type just as fast on a virtual keyboard than I could on my touch pro.
courtlandre said:
Virtual keyboards are great as long as the screen is big enough (at least 3.5") and the device has a multi-touch keyboard (I dont think the standard HTC keyboard for android is). I can type just as fast on a virtual keyboard than I could on my touch pro.
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+1 virtual is the current & has been the growing wave!
Well, I've made up my mind. Going with a HTC Desire. Unless new info of the HTC Vision comes out within these 2 weeks.
I checked out that thread with the HTC's suspected roadmap for the first half of this year. I wonder how long it's going to take for a 1+GHz phone with a tilting screen, TP2 or better keyboard, and a frickin' headphone jack to come out.
I think I'm gonna order the HTC Desire. Cause the deal is just so good!
HTC Desire seperatly: €450
With a 2-year plan:
First year: €18 * 12 = €216
Second year: €34 * 12 = €408
Total: €624
Subtracting costs of phone: €624 - €450 = €174
Calculating monthly usage cost: €174 / 24 = €7,25
So in fact I'm getting 200 minutes/400 messages + unlimited data for just €7,25 a month!

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