Chronology of all sliding keyboard devices - Wizard>Herald>Titan>Hermes>Kaiser>...
Back in the day, there were only a few choices of proper business devices with those nice sliding out thumb-boards. Nowadays it seems they are popping up all over the place.
To make it clear, I am NOT talking about those devices with both the screen and keyboard together on the front of the device, it is too cramped in my opinion.
So I want to rank the devices, from worst to best, which is sometimes from oldest to newest.
All Phones:
Full slide out thumbboard (meant for two hand use)
microSD slot (SDHC compatible)
Bluetooth 2.0+
Wifi
Quad band GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
CSD, GPRS, EDGE
Mini USB combo jack for data transfer, charging, and headset
USB 1.0 (unless otherwise noted)
Windows Mobile (unless otherwise noted)
1. HTC Wizard
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Texas Instruments OMAP 850 @ 195 MHz
64MB RAM, 128MB Flash ROM
1.3MP camera
58 x 108 x 23.7 millimetres
Battery: 1250mAh
2. HTC Herald
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Texas Instruments OMAP 850 @ 201 MHz
64MB RAM, 128MB Flash ROM
2.0MP camera
2.3 x 4.3 x 0.7 inches
Battery: 1130mAh
3. HTC Titan
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Qualcomm MSM7500 @ 400 MHz
64MB RAM, 256MB Flash ROM
2.0MP camera
4.33” x 2.32” x 0.73”
Battery: 1500mAh
CDMA Only (no GSM)
GPS
4. HTC Hermes
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Samsung SC32442A @ 400 MHz
64MB RAM, 128MB Flash ROM
2.0MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
4.33” x 2.32” x 0.73”
Battery: 1350mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Scroll and Push Wheel
5. HTC Kaiser (TyTN II)
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Qualcomm MSM 7200 @ 400 MHz
128MB RAM, 256MB Flash ROM
3.0MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
112mm (L) X 59mm (W) X 19mm (T)
Battery: 1350mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Scroll and Push Wheel
6. HTC Raphael (Touch Pro)
2.8 in flat TFT-LCD 480 X 640
Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM 11 @ 528 MHz
288MB RAM, 512MB Flash ROM
3.2MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
102 mm (4.0 in) (h) 51 mm (2.0 in) (w) 18.05 mm (0.711 in) (d)
Battery: 1340mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G), HSUPA
GPS
7. HTC Dream (aka G1) [Google Android OS]
3.2 in TFT-LCD 480 X 320
Dual-core CPU/GPU Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM11 (528MHz) @ 384Mhz
192MB DDR SDRAM, 256MB Flash ROM
Quad band GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Dual band UMTS 1700 / 2100
3.2MP camera with autofocus.
117.7 mm x 55.7 mm x 17.1 mm
Battery: 1150mAh
Accelerometer, digital compass, GPS
USB 2.0
8. Sony Ericsson Xperia X1
3.0 in flat TFT-LCD 800 X 480
ARM 11 Qualcomm MSM7200A @ 528 MHz with ARM9 @ 256 MHz 2nd core
256MB RAM, 512MB Flash ROM
3.2MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
110 x 53 x 16.7 mm
Battery: 1340mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G), HSUPA
GPS, Accelerometer
USB 2.0
9. HTC Rhodium (Touch Pro 2)
3.6 in flat TFT-LCD 480 X 800
Qualcomm MSM7200 @ 528MHz
288MB RAM, 512MB Flash ROM
3.2MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
116 X 59.2 X 17.25 mm (4.57 X 2.33 X 0.68 inches)
Battery: 1500mAh
WCDMA, UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Accelerometer, GPS, TV-out
USB 2.0
10. Acer m900
3.6 in flat TFT-LCD 480 X 800
Samsung SC3 6410 @ 533 MHz
128 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM
5MP camera
4.69 x 2.44 x 0.67 inches (119 x 62 x 17.1 mm)
Battery: 1530mAh
WCDMA, UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G), HSUPA
Fingerprint ID sensor, GPS, FM Radio with RDS
USB 2.0
11. Samsung Omnia Pro
3.5 in flat AMOLED 800 x 480
Marvell PXA3XX @ 800MHz
288MB RAM, 1024MB Flash ROM
5MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
112.6 x 57.8 x 16.2 mm
Battery: 1500mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Accelerometer?, GPS, TV-out
USB 2.0
I will add more as I find them and have time. In the meantime, feel free to suggest more!
Also note: I did not include any of the Nokia phones such as the Nokia N97, because in my mind it is not in the same class as these devices (i.e. Business professional)
Doesn't the Samsung i730 qualify?
Very interesting comparison...good job! I'm looking forward to getting the TP2!
TheBundo said:
Doesn't the Samsung i730 qualify?
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I just want to include those with full thumbboards... if I included the i730 then I would probably have to include the Palm PRE... I think that might be a good comparison as well, all the devices with a one hand thumbboard slider.
I like it lots. Each one was GSM, but titan wasn't??? Maybe include Acer m900?
whatledog said:
I like it lots. Each one was GSM, but titan wasn't??? Maybe include Acer m900?
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Acer m900 included, can't believe I forgot that one....
What do you mean about the Titan not being GSM?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the titan was the sprint mogul, which doesn't use GSM, hence the incongruity of the sequence of phones.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the titan was the sprint mogul, which doesn't use GSM, hence the incongruity of the sequence of phones.
whatledog said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the titan was the sprint mogul, which doesn't use GSM, hence the incongruity of the sequence of phones.
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Perhaps in some places it did not have GSM, but all the models I know of and encountered all ran GSM.
See the Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_TyTN
The titan was cdma. The TyTN was the hermes, which I had as a 8525, I think. 2 different dogs.
Ah yes, the TyTN is not the Titan... I fixed that now... can they be more confusing?
Yeah, well the joke's on you, because if you add the titan, you need to add the htc apache. Plus there's the MWg Zinc, etc., quite a few of them...But enough is enough!
What about the E-TEN devices? You know, Glofish and the like... (http://www.glofiish.com/) M700, M750, M800, M810
i know the keyboard didn't slide but the universal was pretty sweet
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I was just over at htc.com and looked at the specs listed for the Sensation 4g. I've been there before so I was suprised to see the following:
Platform Android™ 2.3 + HTC Sense™
Display HVGA 2.6-inch touch screen
with 480 x 320 resolution
Network Quad-band GSM/GPRS/
EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS/HSDPA 850/1900
Memory 512 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM
Processor MSM7227, 800 MHz
Battery Rechargeable lithium-ion battery, 1250 mAh
Camera 5 MP main camera with autofocus, VGA
front-facing camera
http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
The specs have not changed.... they've put the wrong info on the page.
The description is ok but the tech specs aren't.
This thread should be closed.
Barsky said:
I was just over at htc.com and looked at the specs listed for the Sensation 4g. I've been there before so I was suprised to see the following:
Platform Android™ 2.3 + HTC Sense™
Display HVGA 2.6-inch touch screen
with 480 x 320 resolution
Network Quad-band GSM/GPRS/
EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS/HSDPA 850/1900
Memory 512 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM
Processor MSM7227, 800 MHz
Battery Rechargeable lithium-ion battery, 1250 mAh
Camera 5 MP main camera with autofocus, VGA
front-facing camera
http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
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Funny.....obviously a mistake.
This is the most gorgeous 2.6" display ever
Hello my friends.
This thread is for information about Palm/HP WebOS devices.
Palm Pre - (Minus).
Specs:
WebOS Phone
Processor 600Mhz ARM Cortex A8 (Underclocked to 500Mhz).
Graphics Processor PowerVR SGX.
Battery 1150 mAh (3/4).
MultiTouch
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900.
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100.
Weight 133 g.
320 x 480 pixels 3.1 inches.
QWERTY keyboard
Accelerometer sensor
8 GB storage
256 MB RAM
Support for GPRS 48Kbps/EDGE 236Kbs/3G 3.6Mbps.
WiFi 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth v2.1 A2DP headset support.
MicroUSB
Camera 3.15 MP Fixed Focus (Not confuse it with Auto Focus), Geotagging.
Video Camera.
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The Palm Pre is the first phone to run WebOS, it has a lot of patches and can raise the processor from 500mhz to 1.2Ghz, awesome no?, With Meta Doctor you can get a Pre minus to run the Newer WebOS 2.1.0.
The most impressive feature of the Palm/HP devices WebOS are the Gesture and Multitasking or better I mean most of the people point on it, but there are a lot of feature that the Palm/HP devices WebOS has.
Palm Pre Plus.
Has the same specs like the Pre minus, but a difference has been settle and the Pre Plus has:
16GB Storage.
512 Ram.
And the gesture area has been improved
Palm Pre 2.
On the Pre 2 they improved a lot features and at the same time the release of WebOS 2.0.0 with Flash Player 10.1 beta, like:
Gorilla Glass.
1Gz Stock Processor.
5MP Camera.
Adobe Flash 10.1.
3G improved to 7.2Mbps.
Support for Bluetooth Keyboard.
The last version of WebOS for the Pre2 is WebOS 2.1.0.
HP Pre 3.
Will be posted when the product is already out.
Palm Pixi.
So, I have an Omnia 7 and am really happy with it, I think it's a great phone with a great operating system, even if it is a phone that was launched in 2010, I think it is still modern and up to date.
Now, I bought a Nokia N9 and really liked the display and finishing materials so
I started thinking what could be if WP had it, then imagine what could
be Lumia 800...
Well, comparing both phones i check that:
3G Network Frequencies:
Lumia 800: HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
Omnia 7: HSDPA 900 / 2100
Dimensions and Weight:
Lumia 800: 116.5 x 61.2 x 12.1 mm, 76.1 cc 142g
Omnia 7: 122.4 x 64.2 x 11 mm 138g
Display:
Lumia 800: AMOLED 16M colors 480 x 800 pixels, 3.7 inches (~252 ppi pixel density)
Omnia 7: Super AMOLED 16M colors 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)
Camera:
Lumia 800: 8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, autofocus, dual-LED flash
Omnia 7: 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Chipset, CPU and GPU:
Lumia 800: Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon 1.4 GHz Scorpion Adreno 205
Omnia 7: Qualcomm QSD8250 Snapdragon 1 GHz Scorpion Adreno 200
Battery:
Lumia 800: Standard battery, Li-Ion 1450 mAh (BV-5JW)
Omnia 7: Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Well, i got this results and what i think that:
Lumia 800 wins in 3G network, camera and Chipset,CPU and GPU
Omnia 7 wins in display and battery
What u thinks guys? Does it worth changing? If anynone could help me with good facts, i really appreciate.
Thanks!
If they had the same sized screens, Lumian wins hands down.
That's why Lumia 900 is the best smartphone rignt now in the world, for me. just the design is so awesome.. Plus, the 900 will not use pentile.
Samsung just unveiled the galaxy note 4 and the note 4 edge !!!!
Specs:
GENERAL= 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network= HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network= LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
SIM =Micro-SIM
BODY Dimensions 153.5 x 78.6 x 8.5 mm (6.04 x 3.09 x 0.33 in)
Weight 176 g (6.21 oz)
- S Pen stylus
- Fingerprint sensor
DISPLAY Type= Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 1440 x 2560 pixels, 5.7 inches (~515 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch= Yes
Protection= Corning Gorilla Glass 3
SOUND= Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
MEMORY= Card slot microSD, up to 64 GB
Internal= 32 GB, 3 GB RAM
DATA= GPRS Yes
EDGE= Yes
Speed= HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA; LTE, Cat4 (N910C), Cat6 (N910S), 50 Mbps UL, 300 Mbps (N910S), 150 Mbps (N910C) DL
WLAN= Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth= v4.1, A2DP, EDR, LE
NFC= Yes
Infrared port= Yes
USB= microUSB v2.0 (MHL 3), USB Host
CAMERA Primary= 16 MP, 3456 x 4608 pixels, optical image stabilization, autofocus, LED flash
Features= Dual Shot, Simultaneous HD video and image recording, geo-tagging, touch focus, face and smile detection, image stabilization, panorama, HDR
Video= [email protected], [email protected], optical stabilization
Secondary= 3.7 MP, [email protected]
OS= Android OS, v4.4.4 (KitKat)
Chipset= Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 (SM-N910S)
Exynos 5433 (SM-N910C)
CPU= Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450 (SM-N910S)
Quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 & 1.9GHz quad-core Cortex-A57 (SM-N910C)
GPU= Adreno 420 (SM-N910S)
Mali-T760 (SM-N910C)
Sensors= Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, gesture, UV, heart rate, SpO2
Colors Frosted white, Charcoal black, Bronze Gold, Blossom Pink
Specs from gsmarena.com
The Note 4 Edge too has the same specs, so what would you buy ??????
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Hello,
There are 3 threads devoted to discussions about devices, please repost your question in one of these three threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
Thanks!
Hi Mike!
According to the official website on June 21st, the Fairphone 2 will feature the following specs
- A 5” Full HD display
- Android® 5.1 Lollipop™
- Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 801 platform
- Dual SIM 2 cards in 1 device
- Magnesium frame
- Easy to repair, modular architecture
Personally, I like the very high density of 441 ppi and the 5" which should result in a compact phone :good:
sycohyco said:
According to the official website on June 21st, the Fairphone 2 will feature the following specs
- A 5” Full HD display
- Android® 5.1 Lollipop™
- Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 801 platform
- Dual SIM 2 cards in 1 device
- Magnesium frame
- Easy to repair, modular architecture
Personally, I like the very high density of 441 ppi and the 5" which should result in a compact phone :good:
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Nice move on the spec side as the first one was pretty disappinting on that side (sluggish processor, unusable GPS, very poor camera...).
Wait and see, price is maybe too high though.
These are the full specifics of the Fairphone 2:
Operating System
Operating System Android™ 5.1, Lollipop
Base Platform
Processors Snapdragon™ 801
Main SOC Qualcomm® MSM8974AB-AB
Application Processor Quad-Core 2.26 GHz Qualcomm Krait 400
GPU Qualcomm Adreno 330 GPU 578 MHz
RAM 2 GB LPDDR3 @ 931 MHz
Flash Storage 32GB eMMC5
Networks
Configuration Dual-SIM, Dual-Standby (DSDS)
SIM Sockets 2x Micro-SIM (3FF)
Network Technology 2G / 3G / 4G LTE-Advanced
GSM/GPRS/EDGE Quad-band: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
WCDMA Bands 1 (2100 MHz), 2 (1900 MHz), 8 (900 MHz)
3G Max Downlink Speed Cat. 24 - 42.2 Mbps
3G Max Uplink Speed Cat. 7 - 11.5 Mbps
LTE Advanced Bands 3 (1800 MHz), 7 (2600 MHz), 20 (800 MHz)
4G Max Downlink Speed Cat. 4 - 150 Mbps
4G Max Uplink Speed Cat. 4 - 50 Mbps
Specific Absorption Rate (SAR) to be determined (Sep. 2015)
Connectivity
WLAN IEEE 802.11 b/g/n/ac
WLAN Bands 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
WLAN Maximum Data Rate Up to 433 Mbps (802.11 ac)
Bluetooth 4.0 LE and earlier
GPS / GNSS GPS, A-GPS, Glonass
FM Radio RX
Display
Display Size 5 inch Full HD
Cover Glass Gorilla Glass 3 - 0.7mm thick)
Display Type LCD TFT/IPS
Resolution 1080 × 1920
Pixel Density 446 ppi
Main Camera
Main Camera 8MP CMOS Sensor with flash
Sensor Type Omnivision OV8865 - Back Side Illuminated
Image sensor size 1/3.2 inch
Pixel Size 1.4μm x 1.4μm
F-number f 2.2
Front Camera
Front Camera 2MP CMOS Sensor
Sensor Type Omnivision OV2685
Image sensor size 1/5 inch
Pixel Size 1.75μm x 1.75μm
F-number f 2.8
Audio
Receiver Hearing Aid Compatible (HAC) according to ANSI C63.19-2006
Speaker Built-in, Rear-facing
Headset Jack 3.5 mm
Headset Jack configuration CTIA-Standard (TRRS: LH/RH/GND/MIC)
Vibration Motor with Haptics Feedback
Dual Microphones
Interface and Connectors
Buttons Power, Volume, Camera (Programmable)
USB Type Micro-B 2.0
MicroSD Support SDHC, SDXC, UHS
Notification LED 3-colour
Expansion Port Backside - connectivity to external case
Expansion Port Type USB 2.0 Device Interface + Power Input
Sensors Ambient Light, Proximity, 3-axis Compass, 3D Accelerometer, 3D Gyroscope
Battery and Power
Removable Battery Pack 2420 mAh at 3.8V (9.2 Wh)
Battery Pack Cell Maxell Lithium-Ion
Dimensions and Weight
Length 143 mm
Width 73 mm
Thickness 11 mm (back of case to top of glass)
Weight 148 g (phone) + 20 g (external case)
I think it's a little bit heavy and big, but it's a good phone after all if you look at the openess and repairability. I hope to reach the 525 euros (about 530 in Italy ) to buy one before september!
Awesome phone ,I want to buy this one
I like it !
To reacto about the price, you have to take in consideration two major things :
-It's a limited quantity of sales, last fairphone was sold 60 000 times, where flagship exceed millions of piece,thus allowing a superb price reduction on manufacturing, and making R&D price ridiculus per phone sold
-it cost money to pay people normally.......nuff said
Also, i'm wondering if the Photo sensor is good, i can see that it can provide RAW format photo (wich is pretty cool),but the camera specs are not that awsome ...1080p -30fps, but it therm of photo quality, anyone knows if it has been used on other phones ?
Elipsus