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Chronology of all sliding keyboard devices - Wizard>Herald>Titan>Hermes>Kaiser>...

Chronology of all sliding keyboard devices - Wizard>Herald>Titan>Hermes>Kaiser>...
Back in the day, there were only a few choices of proper business devices with those nice sliding out thumb-boards. Nowadays it seems they are popping up all over the place.
To make it clear, I am NOT talking about those devices with both the screen and keyboard together on the front of the device, it is too cramped in my opinion.
So I want to rank the devices, from worst to best, which is sometimes from oldest to newest.
All Phones:
Full slide out thumbboard (meant for two hand use)
microSD slot (SDHC compatible)
Bluetooth 2.0+
Wifi
Quad band GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
CSD, GPRS, EDGE
Mini USB combo jack for data transfer, charging, and headset
USB 1.0 (unless otherwise noted)
Windows Mobile (unless otherwise noted)
1. HTC Wizard
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Texas Instruments OMAP 850 @ 195 MHz
64MB RAM, 128MB Flash ROM
1.3MP camera
58 x 108 x 23.7 millimetres
Battery: 1250mAh
2. HTC Herald
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Texas Instruments OMAP 850 @ 201 MHz
64MB RAM, 128MB Flash ROM
2.0MP camera
2.3 x 4.3 x 0.7 inches
Battery: 1130mAh
3. HTC Titan
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Qualcomm MSM7500 @ 400 MHz
64MB RAM, 256MB Flash ROM
2.0MP camera
4.33” x 2.32” x 0.73”
Battery: 1500mAh
CDMA Only (no GSM)
GPS
4. HTC Hermes
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Samsung SC32442A @ 400 MHz
64MB RAM, 128MB Flash ROM
2.0MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
4.33” x 2.32” x 0.73”
Battery: 1350mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Scroll and Push Wheel
5. HTC Kaiser (TyTN II)
2.8 in TFT-LCD 240 X 320
Qualcomm MSM 7200 @ 400 MHz
128MB RAM, 256MB Flash ROM
3.0MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
112mm (L) X 59mm (W) X 19mm (T)
Battery: 1350mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Scroll and Push Wheel
6. HTC Raphael (Touch Pro)
2.8 in flat TFT-LCD 480 X 640
Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM 11 @ 528 MHz
288MB RAM, 512MB Flash ROM
3.2MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
102 mm (4.0 in) (h) 51 mm (2.0 in) (w) 18.05 mm (0.711 in) (d)
Battery: 1340mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G), HSUPA
GPS
7. HTC Dream (aka G1) [Google Android OS]
3.2 in TFT-LCD 480 X 320
Dual-core CPU/GPU Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM11 (528MHz) @ 384Mhz
192MB DDR SDRAM, 256MB Flash ROM
Quad band GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Dual band UMTS 1700 / 2100
3.2MP camera with autofocus.
117.7 mm x 55.7 mm x 17.1 mm
Battery: 1150mAh
Accelerometer, digital compass, GPS
USB 2.0
8. Sony Ericsson Xperia X1
3.0 in flat TFT-LCD 800 X 480
ARM 11 Qualcomm MSM7200A @ 528 MHz with ARM9 @ 256 MHz 2nd core
256MB RAM, 512MB Flash ROM
3.2MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
110 x 53 x 16.7 mm
Battery: 1340mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G), HSUPA
GPS, Accelerometer
USB 2.0
9. HTC Rhodium (Touch Pro 2)
3.6 in flat TFT-LCD 480 X 800
Qualcomm MSM7200 @ 528MHz
288MB RAM, 512MB Flash ROM
3.2MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
116 X 59.2 X 17.25 mm (4.57 X 2.33 X 0.68 inches)
Battery: 1500mAh
WCDMA, UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Accelerometer, GPS, TV-out
USB 2.0
10. Acer m900
3.6 in flat TFT-LCD 480 X 800
Samsung SC3 6410 @ 533 MHz
128 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM
5MP camera
4.69 x 2.44 x 0.67 inches (119 x 62 x 17.1 mm)
Battery: 1530mAh
WCDMA, UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G), HSUPA
Fingerprint ID sensor, GPS, FM Radio with RDS
USB 2.0
11. Samsung Omnia Pro
3.5 in flat AMOLED 800 x 480
Marvell PXA3XX @ 800MHz
288MB RAM, 1024MB Flash ROM
5MP camera/ Front 0.3MP Video Call camera
112.6 x 57.8 x 16.2 mm
Battery: 1500mAh
UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
Accelerometer?, GPS, TV-out
USB 2.0
I will add more as I find them and have time. In the meantime, feel free to suggest more!
Also note: I did not include any of the Nokia phones such as the Nokia N97, because in my mind it is not in the same class as these devices (i.e. Business professional)

Doesn't the Samsung i730 qualify?

Very interesting comparison...good job! I'm looking forward to getting the TP2!

TheBundo said:
Doesn't the Samsung i730 qualify?
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I just want to include those with full thumbboards... if I included the i730 then I would probably have to include the Palm PRE... I think that might be a good comparison as well, all the devices with a one hand thumbboard slider.

I like it lots. Each one was GSM, but titan wasn't??? Maybe include Acer m900?

whatledog said:
I like it lots. Each one was GSM, but titan wasn't??? Maybe include Acer m900?
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Acer m900 included, can't believe I forgot that one....
What do you mean about the Titan not being GSM?

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the titan was the sprint mogul, which doesn't use GSM, hence the incongruity of the sequence of phones.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the titan was the sprint mogul, which doesn't use GSM, hence the incongruity of the sequence of phones.

whatledog said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the titan was the sprint mogul, which doesn't use GSM, hence the incongruity of the sequence of phones.
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Perhaps in some places it did not have GSM, but all the models I know of and encountered all ran GSM.
See the Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_TyTN

The titan was cdma. The TyTN was the hermes, which I had as a 8525, I think. 2 different dogs.

Ah yes, the TyTN is not the Titan... I fixed that now... can they be more confusing?

Yeah, well the joke's on you, because if you add the titan, you need to add the htc apache. Plus there's the MWg Zinc, etc., quite a few of them...But enough is enough!

What about the E-TEN devices? You know, Glofish and the like... (http://www.glofiish.com/) M700, M750, M800, M810

i know the keyboard didn't slide but the universal was pretty sweet

[Q] Omnia 7 x Lumia 800

So, I have an Omnia 7 and am really happy with it, I think it's a great phone with a great operating system, even if it is a phone that was launched in 2010, I think it is still modern and up to date.
Now, I bought a Nokia N9 and really liked the display and finishing materials so
I started thinking what could be if WP had it, then imagine what could
be Lumia 800...
Well, comparing both phones i check that:
3G Network Frequencies:
Lumia 800: HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
Omnia 7: HSDPA 900 / 2100
Dimensions and Weight:
Lumia 800: 116.5 x 61.2 x 12.1 mm, 76.1 cc 142g
Omnia 7: 122.4 x 64.2 x 11 mm 138g
Display:
Lumia 800: AMOLED 16M colors 480 x 800 pixels, 3.7 inches (~252 ppi pixel density)
Omnia 7: Super AMOLED 16M colors 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)
Camera:
Lumia 800: 8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, autofocus, dual-LED flash
Omnia 7: 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Chipset, CPU and GPU:
Lumia 800: Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon 1.4 GHz Scorpion Adreno 205
Omnia 7: Qualcomm QSD8250 Snapdragon 1 GHz Scorpion Adreno 200
Battery:
Lumia 800: Standard battery, Li-Ion 1450 mAh (BV-5JW)
Omnia 7: Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Well, i got this results and what i think that:
Lumia 800 wins in 3G network, camera and Chipset,CPU and GPU
Omnia 7 wins in display and battery
What u thinks guys? Does it worth changing? If anynone could help me with good facts, i really appreciate.
Thanks!

If they had the same sized screens, Lumian wins hands down.
That's why Lumia 900 is the best smartphone rignt now in the world, for me. just the design is so awesome.. Plus, the 900 will not use pentile.

THL T6S -- maybe the Cheapest JDI Quda-core smartphone

THL released a smartphone T6S with MTK6582M, the 1.3GHz quad-core processor, and JDI screen, which provides higher pixels and sharper picture, it's said that XiaoMi 4 and Smartisan T1 use this screen as well. T6S may be the cheapest JDI quad-core phone on market now, it has been on presell at Mod Edit: Links removed
Preferences:
OS: Android 4.4.2
CPU: MTK6582M, 1.3GHz
GPU: OpenGL ES 2.0, Mali-400 MP2
Screen Size: 5.0"
Screen Resolution: 854 x 480 pixels
RAM: 1GB ROM: 8GB
Back Camera Megapixel: Back 5.0 MP
Front Camera Megapixel: Front 0.3 MP
3G: WCDMA 850MHz, WCDMA 2100MHz
2G: GSM 850MHz, GSM 900MHz, GSM 1800MHz, GSM 1900MHz
Battery: 1900mAh, One Battery

Note-4 or Note-4 Edge ????

Samsung just unveiled the galaxy note 4 and the note 4 edge !!!!
Specs:
GENERAL= 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network= HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network= LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
SIM =Micro-SIM
BODY Dimensions 153.5 x 78.6 x 8.5 mm (6.04 x 3.09 x 0.33 in)
Weight 176 g (6.21 oz)
- S Pen stylus
- Fingerprint sensor
DISPLAY Type= Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 1440 x 2560 pixels, 5.7 inches (~515 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch= Yes
Protection= Corning Gorilla Glass 3
SOUND= Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
MEMORY= Card slot microSD, up to 64 GB
Internal= 32 GB, 3 GB RAM
DATA= GPRS Yes
EDGE= Yes
Speed= HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA; LTE, Cat4 (N910C), Cat6 (N910S), 50 Mbps UL, 300 Mbps (N910S), 150 Mbps (N910C) DL
WLAN= Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth= v4.1, A2DP, EDR, LE
NFC= Yes
Infrared port= Yes
USB= microUSB v2.0 (MHL 3), USB Host
CAMERA Primary= 16 MP, 3456 x 4608 pixels, optical image stabilization, autofocus, LED flash
Features= Dual Shot, Simultaneous HD video and image recording, geo-tagging, touch focus, face and smile detection, image stabilization, panorama, HDR
Video= [email protected], [email protected], optical stabilization
Secondary= 3.7 MP, [email protected]
OS= Android OS, v4.4.4 (KitKat)
Chipset= Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 (SM-N910S)
Exynos 5433 (SM-N910C)
CPU= Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450 (SM-N910S)
Quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 & 1.9GHz quad-core Cortex-A57 (SM-N910C)
GPU= Adreno 420 (SM-N910S)
Mali-T760 (SM-N910C)
Sensors= Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, gesture, UV, heart rate, SpO2
Colors Frosted white, Charcoal black, Bronze Gold, Blossom Pink
Specs from gsmarena.com
The Note 4 Edge too has the same specs, so what would you buy ??????
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Hello,
There are 3 threads devoted to discussions about devices, please repost your question in one of these three threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
Thanks!
Hi Mike!

[Completed] General asus zenfone 2 laser

First introduced at Computex, the ASUS ZenFone 2 Laser is another budget-friendly smartphone from ASUS that comes in two main models — one for the U.S., which we'll focus on here, and another for international audiences.
The U.S. model of the ZenFone 2 Laser is ZE551KL, and is a larger and much more capable version of the phone — it has a 5.5-inch 1080p display (same as the original ZenFone 2), along with a Snapdragon 615 processor, 3GB of RAM, 16 or 32GB of storage, and a 13MP camera with laser autofocus.
The international version, ZE500KL, has a 5-inch 720p display instead, as well as a Snapdragon 400 processor, 2GB of RAM, 16GB of base storage and a smaller 2400 mAh battery. Both phones offer dual SIM capabilities, which is a bonus.
ZenFone 2 Laser (ZE551KL) Specs
Operating System Android 5.0 Lollipop
ASUS Zen UI 2.0
Display 5.5-inch IPS 1920x1080 (401 ppi), 178 degree wide view angle
Corning Gorilla Glass 4
ASUS TruVivid Full Screen Lamination Technology
Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 615 octa-core 64-bit at 1.7GHz
Adreno 405 GPU
Storage 16 or 32GB
SD card expandable up to 128GB
SIM Dual Micro SIM
LTE on both SIMs
RAM 3GB
Rear Camera 13MP, laser autofocus, f/2.0 aperture
5 element Largan Lens, dual LED real tone flash
Front Camera 5MP, f/2.0, 85 degree wide angle lens
Network GSM/EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz
WCDMA: Band 1/2/4/5/8
FDD-LTE: Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/17/20
Cat 4 LTE up to 150 Mbps, DC-HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Dual antennas
Connectivity 802.11n Wifi, Bluetooth 4.1 with AptX, Wifi Direct
Sensors GPS, BDS, GLONASS, accelerometer, ambient light, proximity, e-compass, HALL sensor
Battery 3000 mAh Li-Po
Removable
Charging Micro USB
LED notification light Yes
Dimensions 152.4 x 77.2 x 10.9 mm
Weight 170 g
Both models are sold for roughly the equivalent of $199 for 16GB of storage and $249 for 32GB, so be sure if you're in the U.S. to pick up the right model to get the most bang for your buck. While you're at it, you may also want to consider the original ZenFone 2, which may offer you better value at similar prices in the U.S. depending on what features matter to you most.

Hi,
I see you've found the correct Forum section to post this, so I'll close this thread. Thanks!