Hi ya guys,i'm not really one to bump my gums about network providers,but felt i had to put hand to keyboard and have a little rant about the shabby way tmobile have dealt with me.I upgraded last year (Feb 07) to an mda vario and my partner upgraded to a nokia7373,we have two lines on the account,my plan is flext 35,my partner has a discounted line rental where she used to only pay £3.99 a month,we said to the sales rep that make sure my partners line still qualifies for the discount,upon which we were told," fine,not a problem".it was only in april 07 that i noticed my partners line rental was £13.99 a month not £3.99.I called t mobile,explained the situation to them,and was basically told "tough,you need to go back to the shop were you got the upgrade".you see i was visiting my cancer ridden father at the time,who happens to live a 5 1/2 hour drive away,so as u can see this was not feasible.From that moment i thought aint no way will i be renewing any contract with these tossers!!!To add insult to injury,every time i connected my vario at home to my wireless network,i was being charged for it,only a couple of pounds a month because i dont use my vario at home very often.Last month i phoned them and explained this to them so they only refunded last months mobile data charges.my contract is due for renewal 09/02/08 and i have phoned their customer services to see if we can come to some arrangement in the respect that i could at least try and recoup some of my losses.Over the last year they have blatantly ripped me off to the tune of £120 in line rental and about £25 mobile data.I spoke to another customer service rep 2day and asked them that the only way i was going to renew my contract was if they put my partners line rental back down to what it was and i wanted my same flext 35 tariff plus web n walk plus and a free vario 3(Kaiser) all for £27.50 a month.obviously they said no which has prompted me to write this thread.I really feel peed off with them because we've been with them for 6 years,and feel they have no idea what customer loyalty means!!!!I may phone back and speak to another numpty in customer services to see if i can get what i want but as i say the chances are very slim!!!what they did offer me tho was a free Samsung F250 for my partner(bag of nails phone) but i would have to pay £100 for my vario 3 and would get no discount on my line rental.Is dis shabby or is dis shabbby!!!!
Also if ne 1 could give me sum advice on how to deal with arseholes,it would be gratefully received,thanks
nayga73 said:
Hi ya guys,i'm not really one to bump my gums about network providers,but felt i had to put hand to keyboard and have a little rant about the shabby way tmobile have dealt with me.I upgraded last year (Feb 07) to an mda vario and my partner upgraded to a nokia7373,we have two lines on the account,my plan is flext 35,my partner has a discounted line rental where she used to only pay £3.99 a month,we said to the sales rep that make sure my partners line still qualifies for the discount,upon which we were told," fine,not a problem".it was only in april 07 that i noticed my partners line rental was £13.99 a month not £3.99.I called t mobile,explained the situation to them,and was basically told "tough,you need to go back to the shop were you got the upgrade".you see i was visiting my cancer ridden father at the time,who happens to live a 5 1/2 hour drive away,so as u can see this was not feasible.From that moment i thought aint no way will i be renewing any contract with these tossers!!!To add insult to injury,every time i connected my vario at home to my wireless network,i was being charged for it,only a couple of pounds a month because i dont use my vario at home very often.Last month i phoned them and explained this to them so they only refunded last months mobile data charges.my contract is due for renewal 09/02/08 and i have phoned their customer services to see if we can come to some arrangement in the respect that i could at least try and recoup some of my losses.Over the last year they have blatantly ripped me off to the tune of £120 in line rental and about £25 mobile data.I spoke to another customer service rep 2day and asked them that the only way i was going to renew my contract was if they put my partners line rental back down to what it was and i wanted my same flext 35 tariff plus web n walk plus and a free vario 3(Kaiser) all for £27.50 a month.obviously they said no which has prompted me to write this thread.I really feel peed off with them because we've been with them for 6 years,and feel they have no idea what customer loyalty means!!!!I may phone back and speak to another numpty in customer services to see if i can get what i want but as i say the chances are very slim!!!what they did offer me tho was a free Samsung F250 for my partner(bag of nails phone) but i would have to pay £100 for my vario 3 and would get no discount on my line rental.Is dis shabby or is dis shabbby!!!!
Also if ne 1 could give me sum advice on how to deal with arseholes,it would be gratefully received,thanks
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I understand where you're coming from, although I think playing devil's advocate I would make a few points:
The comment about having to go back to the store, whilst unhelpful given your circumstances, is no different from that provided by Voda or O2 in my experience. The deal was made with a manager in a store, who should be able to verify this. If you the agreement in writing, then great but otherwise without proof you're relying on goodwill and a good memory.
The second question I'd ask is have you spoken to retentions about this? They are the only people who have any power in any telco. I'd recommend you start by asking for your PAC code, and keep calm. The other person won't help you if you're emotional. Bear in mind that it may take a couple of people until you get someone sympathetic (Or with a sales target to reach) so stay calm and if needs be take the PAC code and call back in a couple of days.
But please realise that call centre people have personal problems too and different personalities. You are nothing but a stat to them, not meant in a bad way, but stay calm and you will get more.
I'd like to relate a good experience I had with T-Mob Customer Services last week. I had upgraded to a MDA Vario III in November, on Flext20. With my new toy I was incurring significant data downloads so I upgraded to the Web'n'walk package over the phone in December. When my January bill came, I found they'd not applied the Web'n'walk option and had charged me over £100 for just my data. I called and they couldn't find a record of my original call to upgrade to WnW on their system. I didn't have any evidence of this either - just a vague recollection of speaking to a lady about it sometime after I'd got the new phone.
However, the chap on the phone told me to hold - for about 5 mins - then came back on and said that as a goodwill gesture, they would credit off all £100 of the data charges and fix the WnW subscription too. I said thanks very much and rang off before he changed his mind...
bydandie said:
I understand where you're coming from, although I think playing devil's advocate I would make a few points:
The comment about having to go back to the store, whilst unhelpful given your circumstances, is no different from that provided by Voda or O2 in my experience. The deal was made with a manager in a store, who should be able to verify this. If you the agreement in writing, then great but otherwise without proof you're relying on goodwill and a good memory.
The second question I'd ask is have you spoken to retentions about this? They are the only people who have any power in any telco. I'd recommend you start by asking for your PAC code, and keep calm. The other person won't help you if you're emotional. Bear in mind that it may take a couple of people until you get someone sympathetic (Or with a sales target to reach) so stay calm and if needs be take the PAC code and call back in a couple of days.
But please realise that call centre people have personal problems too and different personalities. You are nothing but a stat to them, not meant in a bad way, but stay calm and you will get more.
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i welcome your comments greatly,the thing is i HAVE been totally calm with them,not raised my voice once with them,i work in retail so i know the script when it comes to complaining etc..but seems everytime i call them i always end up getiing someone who hasnt the authority to do anything!!!
you need to talk to tradeing standands they will help you. also every time you call them ask for they name..
The general standard of customer care from mobile companies in the UK is dire.
I cancelled at the end of my contract as the service was crap, and a few times during the year I had been hit with bills for unsolicited text messages.
WITH TMOBILE.
During the year they change the billing date, and they took a full months line rental covering the period after I cancelled. When I called them to see why - they told me that although they had issued a cancellation number, it had been done by email so it did not count, and my account was still not cancelled.
It took two hours of hanging on the phone to get it ended - and it was just not worth the hassle to get the extra 12 quid they took back.
With a previous account they had overcharged me by about a hundred quid, so I stopped the direct debit and asked them to fix it. It took about 40 calls until i got a customer service rep who had a clue. when i told him how many times I had called - he said he found it difficult to believe and could check. He found 26 calls that had been ignored - and when I said I had called far more often he admitted some people would just not log the call.
I asked to have my account ended (as it matched with the introduction of fees for 0800 numbers) and he did so and there was a tenner I still owed - which he waived.
However, the following year a credit card application was declined and when I got a credit report to see why - it showed arrears on my mobile bill.
WITH ORANGE.
"Your data allowance is provided free - so although we are unable to provide data currently - it was free so we don't need to credit you" (When they sold me a phone when they started 3G badly).
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CS:- "Your phone has nothing to do with us - look at the phone - whose name is on it"
ME "It says Orange and has an Orange square"
CS:- "No your problem is with the manufacturer - their name is on the phone - and you need to keep paying us line rental while they repair it as its your problem not ours unless you take out our (whatever they call cover plan)"
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Every CS rep said the same, then one at night said something implying he had net access.
I told him the site for trading standards and to check who was responsible for the phone.
CS:- "Hey - you are right - what we were trained to say is entirely dodgy - I need to report this to my manager in the morning and they will get back to you"
Still waiting two years on.
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CS:- "yes the phone wont work with bluetooth until it has a software upgrade - its a security feature"
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CS:- "Sorry our phone helpers can't get that phone to work either - you need to call the manufacturer"
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CS in shop:- "A phone cannot possibly put someone else's number onto a text message"
ME:- "Text me"
Her text arrived from the "China Sea Chinese Takeaway" (a landline).
CS in shop "Well, its only a minor problem and you are obviously still receiving the texts."
ME:- "Yes but you should see what happens when that number then calls"
CS in shop calls me and it works fine as there never was a problem with calls.
CS mobile number appears on a series of cards offering sexual services in phone boxes.
wizardragon said:
The general standard of customer care from mobile companies in the UK is dire.
I cancelled at the end of my contract as the service was crap, and a few times during the year I had been hit with bills for unsolicited text messages.
WITH TMOBILE.
During the year they change the billing date, and they took a full months line rental covering the period after I cancelled. When I called them to see why - they told me that although they had issued a cancellation number, it had been done by email so it did not count, and my account was still not cancelled.
It took two hours of hanging on the phone to get it ended - and it was just not worth the hassle to get the extra 12 quid they took back.
With a previous account they had overcharged me by about a hundred quid, so I stopped the direct debit and asked them to fix it. It took about 40 calls until i got a customer service rep who had a clue. when i told him how many times I had called - he said he found it difficult to believe and could check. He found 26 calls that had been ignored - and when I said I had called far more often he admitted some people would just not log the call.
I asked to have my account ended (as it matched with the introduction of fees for 0800 numbers) and he did so and there was a tenner I still owed - which he waived.
However, the following year a credit card application was declined and when I got a credit report to see why - it showed arrears on my mobile bill.
WITH ORANGE.
"Your data allowance is provided free - so although we are unable to provide data currently - it was free so we don't need to credit you" (When they sold me a phone when they started 3G badly).
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CS:- "Your phone has nothing to do with us - look at the phone - whose name is on it"
ME "It says Orange and has an Orange square"
CS:- "No your problem is with the manufacturer - their name is on the phone - and you need to keep paying us line rental while they repair it as its your problem not ours unless you take out our (whatever they call cover plan)"
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Every CS rep said the same, then one at night said something implying he had net access.
I told him the site for trading standards and to check who was responsible for the phone.
CS:- "Hey - you are right - what we were trained to say is entirely dodgy - I need to report this to my manager in the morning and they will get back to you"
Still waiting two years on.
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CS:- "yes the phone wont work with bluetooth until it has a software upgrade - its a security feature"
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CS:- "Sorry our phone helpers can't get that phone to work either - you need to call the manufacturer"
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CS in shop:- "A phone cannot possibly put someone else's number onto a text message"
ME:- "Text me"
Her text arrived from the "China Sea Chinese Takeaway" (a landline).
CS in shop "Well, its only a minor problem and you are obviously still receiving the texts."
ME:- "Yes but you should see what happens when that number then calls"
CS in shop calls me and it works fine as there never was a problem with calls.
CS mobile number appears on a series of cards offering sexual services in phone boxes.
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and i thought i had it bad!!!!well heres's an update to the situation.........
Finally got to spoke to somebody with some authority on thursday afternoon (31/01/08)and i must say the gentleman was pretty clued up!at first he wasn't having any of it,he basically tried to give me the usual company spiel,offering apologies etc etc...When i told him i had made a complaint 2 weeks previous,and my reason for phoning was to find out the outcome,his attitude clearly changed.I was put on hold for a couple of mins,and he came back and said rather sheepishly that my complaint had not gone any further than i had left it 2 weeks previously.I was livid,i thought i was gonna blow,but maintained my decorum throughout.I said that i was going to have to take the matter further and speak to OFT(Office of Fair Trading)but he said not to do that as he said he had an offer i couldnt refuse.He offered me a free MDA Vario 3,my flext 35 plan down to £30 a month,with the £180 credit,and web n walk plus for free,all on a 12 month term.I obviously wanted more,but thought at the end of the day he could have offered me JACK DO DO!!!So sometimes it does pay to complain!!!!albeit rather calmly!!!!
i always wanted the Vario 3,but gutted now as i have only just realised all the problems about the drivers for the graphics hardware!!??!!Sod's law or what??????
what a winging twat you are if i got you on the phone i would have said got stop winging you looser your never happy are you what did u want free line rental forever aswell:
maybe he just wanted what was owed toh im, not hars is it, 14 a month is definitely not 4 a month
they will have looked into the data charges and he probably will have done it ive seen it all the time when they say they didnt do the usage and they did and if he was so bothered about the discount he would have gone to the shop to swort it instead of winging hes complaning about the customer services but how do they know he should have kept the discount he could have just been making it up
i dont know how good a deal you really got. around 15 months ago i got a kasier, and 18 month flext35 + web and walk for £35 a month, and the phone was free.. id been with tmobile for a year previously, but it seemed like a fair deal, especially given how new the phone was at the time.
i dont think ive ever had to pay for a pda phone on a contract, they've always managed to bring them down to free if you're willing to take the 18month contracts and complain a bit.
Well more shabbiness from the great t-mobile!I sent my phone in for repair 24/01/09 and have only received it 2day,with a rather annoying letter attached to it saying that my phone has not been repaired due to me unlocking the phone and the phone not having the operator software originally installed on the phone!I had phoned them on Wednesday afternoon to find out why they've had my phone so long and was told that they were waiting for a part for the joystick (d-pad) their words not mine,they assured me my phone wpould be with me friday.So imagine my dismay when i get the phone and see the paperwork attached to it which clearly states that this phone would not be repaired dated 17/02/09,i phoned on wednesday (18th), so how come the CSA didnt tell me that there was a problem with repairing it?
Also i had left my 8 gig sd card in the phone,which has mysteriously disappeared along with my stylus.
I'm gonna phone them in the morning,but would like to know where i stand legally with these morons.
PS.I am no longer under the jurisdiction of ANY UK law or Act or statute,meaning if i get the runaround from tmobile,i can legally bill them for wasting my time,my fee currently starts at £500 per hour.All this is 100% above board!
N E 1 interested in becoming free,just pm me!
Also @ Gibb,yes i may be whinging twat,but a free whinging twat that is not bound by ANY government,that does not pay tax in any form,but can still claim for state handouts,legally!
I went on-line this past Friday to order the MHL/HDMI cable for my HTC Sensation from the T-Mo store. At the end of checkout I was asked 5 security questions...I flubbed the first question because I wasn't paying attention. Some of the other questions were kind of strange. i.e. They asked me if I knew a Anble S****. It was my family last name but who has "Able" as a first name??? The best I could figure was they may have meant "Angie" who was a family member.
Anyways, I flunked the security questions and was given a phone number and order# so I could call and verify the order over the phone. I had the call the next day because that office was closed.
I called and cleared up the order and then the sales rep who was helping me could not find the item I was trying to order. Trying to be helpful, I found the item on my own at the on-line T-Mo store but it had no SKU or part #. The sales rep also told me he could not access the same web site because they were restricted from doing so!!!???? I was thinking of e-mailing him the link to the video cable but he couldn't even get to it.
He had to put a note in my order stating what the item was so some other dept. could try to find it...
So predictably, 6 business days later (I paid for overnight delivery) I still had not received my order. I called 30 minutes ago and the sales rep told me the order still had NOT been placed yet AND it would take 24-72 hours (business days) before the order would be even cleared by another dept. Now what the heck does that mean?. I told the rep I was not very happy and a few other choice words.
At least I hope I get an e-mail when they finally find the cable and mail it to me...the next time I'll order from Hong Kong and probably get it faster..haha.
That sucks. You should at least get the shipping charge refunded or changed since it's taking them so long. Are these not available in store?
No MHL/HDMI cables at the local T-Mo store
Last weekend I did go to my local T-Mo store and they only had cases and screen protectors for the HTC Sensation. I was not really expecting too much since the Sensation is so new. I asked the sales girl when they might be getting anything in and she had no clue. The impression I got was she was not expecting any video cables to come in.
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Last weekend I did go to my local T-Mo store and they only had cases and screen protectors for the HTC Sensation. I was not really expecting too much since the Sensation is so new. I asked the sales girl when they might be getting anything in and she had no clue. The impression I got was she was not expecting any video cables to come in.
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yea when i went into my local T-Mo and asked about the cable he said "idk, maybe in a few weeks"
I swear, today's BS at the Sprint store has me engulfed in fumes! Last week, i ask to have a white Note 2 ordered as I wanted to pay the full retail value. Had a good chat with the sales rep(long time friend), and took care of me accordingly. Due to the late order, this was last week Thursday, said the phone would be in today and to come by then. No problem, waited patiently.
Walk into the store today and ask for my phone. Was told only one shipment came in and there's no white N2's to be seen with my name on it. The girl rep told me, I'd be notified once the phone arrived. Said, np and waited patiently again. Hrs go by till about an hour ago. Call, girl rep says phone is here. I'm like wtf, why wasn't I notified!! Then im told to bring all the payment upfront or no phone, on top of the ***** telling me she was confused about everything and couldn't help me!! FACEPALM...
Called up Sprint and *****ed about it all. Ordered the phone, through the billing 1-800 number and had it over night shipped. The helpful lady waved the $35 activation fee, along with the $12 shipping fee. Even though it was nice, i feel like a better discount could have been given. When you spend $700 ++ on the phone followed by 12yrs of customer loyalty, you'd think that sprint would throw in a phone case w/10%-15% off my phone purchase...!
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the last time i tried replacing my nexus s 4g (after having dropped it and cracking the screen), asurion offered me a different phone because they had none at hand that very moment. i would be okay with this IF it was an upgrade from my phone, but they tried giving me some LG phone that was anything but an upgrade spec & feature-wise. turns out the lady was offering that phone to me only because their highest priority was to have a phone to me by the next business day. i told her waiting an extra business day to get the same phone was no problem... got a replacement 2 days later ::rollseyes::
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On 15 November 2014 I went to the T-Mobile store at 4130 S New Braunfels Ave, Suite 101San Antonio, TX and ordered myself a Note Edge and my wife a iPhone 6 Gold 64 GB. I have been going to that store since the initial debacle I had when I joined T-Mobile a year ago over the phone. They had always been very courteous and professional towards me. During ordering, this is what I was told:
1. I would not be charged anything until I received a tracking number that the phone(s) had shipped.
2. The phones would ship independently once either one became available.
3. That I should receive both phones NLT 22nd of November, but could take up to 10 days.
The following Monday comes and I see a pending charge of $169.75 to my checking account for 'T-Mobile' upgrade. So I called T-Mobile and they told me that I should have received a tracking number and if not, I should receive it by COB that day. I was also told that my wife’s iPhone was on back order, which didn't make me happy, but did not surprise me as well. The next day I did not receive a tracking number so I stopped by the store that I had ordered them from and spoke with an assistant manager. She apologized profusely and told me that both my phones were on back order, that neither had shipped to me, and that I shouldn't a have been charged anything, pending or not. She could not give me an estimate of when my phones would ship and that I shouldn't have been charged anything. I was not happy when I left.
I waited 2 days and called T-Mobile again. This lady told me that the charge was not 'really' a charge as it was a 'pending' charge that T-Mobile does to ensure they have access to the funds, and that meant that my phone was in shipping, although she couldn't tell me which one it was. I told her that pending or not, the money was out of my account, so I didn't care what she called it. She promised me my phone was in shipping and I should receive a tracking number at any moment.
2 more days go by and I have heard nothing. I looked at my T-Mobile bill and notice that it had gone up $32.00 I immediately call them again, spoke with a customer loyalty person, and was told that $24 of that was for insurance on the phones that I DO NOT HAVE and the other $8 was for misc. charges. I promptly had her remove the insurance, as I did not request it, and although should couldn't exactly tell me what the $8 was for, she removed that as well. Now this representative told me that they didn't know when my phones would ship and couldn't explain why I had the money taken out of my account.
On the 21st I went back to the store to ask them why all of this had occurred and I had been lied to. There was a 30ish male assistant manager there and I had noticed him 'roughly' dealing with other customers in the past. I explained to him all that had happened and he told me that it couldn’t have happened at his store. Ok, I will admit at this point I was about to go nuclear. That's when this 'man' gets close to me and raises his hands saying, 'what do you want me to do for you? What do you want?' I told him that I wanted to know when my phones would ship, why they charged my account with no tracking number, and who authorized them to place charges on my account without my knowledge or approval. He then started to raise his voice, and knowing myself, this was only going to end with me getting escorted out of the store by local security. At this point, everyone was watching us, and I told him that this was not the last they were going to hear from me. And I very slowly walked out.
I will admit, I was beyond irrate. I sat in my car for a while, then called T-Mobile. I was immediately patched thru to 'customer loyalty' manager named ¬¬¬¬¬Monique. After I had told her everything that had happened, names, placed, dates and all of the lies, the profusely apologized and told me she would file a 'case' against the store. The also said they would start an investigation on who charged my account. When the conversation was over, she said that my note edge was in shipping and I would receive a tracking number in 24 hours. That she guaranteed it was in shipping and I would officially hear back from T-Mobile on the outcome of the investigations. This was about a 1 hour phone call.
48 hours later, no tracking number, no phone call, no nothing. I did receive a email stating that my wifes iPhone would ship between the 28 of November and the 13th of December. So why didn't I cancel everything by now? Believe me I wanted to...but if i canceled one of the phones, the both would be dropped, and I wanted very much for my wife to have her phone for Christmas. That is why.
On the way to work I decided to call them. Big mistake as it put me in a foul mood all day. This person told me that neither of my phones had shipped, couldn’t tell me when they would and again, couldn’t explain to me why the $169 had been taken from my account. I am sure there was a visible mushroom cloud coming from the cab of my truck at that point. I will not even bother with explaining the words that flowed from my mouth.
After work that day, I called ‘customer loyalty’ and this woman was very curt and to the point. There was no way for her to tell me when my phones would ship, she had never heard of Monique and there was no way for her to find out who she is because T-Mobile was just too large with to many call centers. She told me no investigations had been launched and none probably would not be. She said that if I had the money put back into my account, it would cancel both phones, and that they would only ship both when they were available together. I insisted that I be given the distract T-Mobiles email address and she refused to do so, instead she gave me this address:
Customer Relations
PO Box 37380
Albuquerque NM 87176-7380
This had to be done by snail mail and there is no other way. She stated continuously that there was nothing else she could do for me and ended the conversation.
I HAVE NEVER been treated this poorly, lied to this many times by any company in my 51 years of breathing oxygen. If it wasn’t for my wife’s Christmas Present I would have had them shove the phones and their service where even worms will not go. I just wanted to share my experience as I hope it helps others. After I pay the phones off, we will be going back to ATT. I initially left ATT because T-Mobile saved me $1200.00 a year and gave us many for features then ATT did. Now, I regret it. The frustration, the lies, and the aggravation is not worth it. How a company can legally work this way I will never know. If anyone could send me the email address of the distract manager of San Antonio for T-Mobile, I would greatly appreciate it. I had it once, but cannot find it now. Thank you.