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Figures they'd come out with it a week before I'm thinking of picking up an Imate Ultimate 8150. But it's out for those of you interested link below.
P3600 Full Body Invisible Shield
http://www.shieldzone.com/item_description/HTCP3600I.html
Nice!! It's listed for the P3600i, but I guess it's exactly the same as the P3600.
Anybody tried it already?? Better than a regular silicon cover?
How does this work?
If it is stretched all over the PDA, how is it joined/sealed? What about removing the batter cover or using the thumb wheel? Is it fixed like cling-film?
Also, the screen is recessed from the surround so if it is stretched around the housing and screen, then there would seem to be a gap between the screen and this cover, so what will the sensitivity of the screen be like?
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How does this work?
If it is stretched all over the PDA, how is it joined/sealed? What about removing the batter cover or using the thumb wheel? Is it fixed like cling-film?
Also, the screen is recessed from the surround so if it is stretched around the housing and screen, then there would seem to be a gap between the screen and this cover, so what will the sensitivity of the screen be like?
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If you followed the link and watched the installation video showing it being applied to an ipod you wouldn't have asked.........suggest you try that first.
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If you followed the link and watched the installation video showing it being applied to an ipod you wouldn't have asked.........suggest you try that first.
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looks like it would be a least 3 pieces - one for the screen, then one for the keys, and one for the back - which does not protect the sides. And the video doesn't show how it fits on the phone, it shows how it fits on the front of a ipod - so don't be a smart a*s. He was asking how it fits on this phone not an ipod dumb a*s.
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looks like it would be a least 3 pieces - one for the screen, then one for the keys, and one for the back - which does not protect the sides. And the video doesn't show how it fits on the phone, it shows how it fits on the front of a ipod - so don't be a smart a*s. He was asking how it fits on this phone not an ipod dumb a*s.
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Get life....yes the clip shows it being fitted to an ipod......if you gothered to watch the clip you would have seen that the piece for the back also does the sides as they wrap around.....apart from the size etc the actual method of applying this will be the same.
Next time smart a*s do your homework rather than mouthing off.
Oh yes all my questions answered if only I had watched the ipod video.
Now All I need is an m700 that is exactly the same shape as an ipod, with all the buttons in the same place, with a flush screen, and well, all very ipodish, and then it will all be clear.
So this will be no more than a screen protector on the PDA. It will not protect the buttons or lower raised section of the housing. Also won't protect the sides (too many buttons), and it seems that the tight curves will be a problem for this cover. I can see this peeling off the m700 in a very short time
If you know so much about it, then can you explain how it will work with a recessed screen? Will I be able to tap it all over with a key and not damage the phone, and if I throw it in a box of coins, will all the phone be safe from scratches and chips - just like the ipod?
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Oh yes all my questions answered if only I had watched the ipod video.
Now All I need is an m700 that is exactly the same shape as an ipod, with all the buttons in the same place, with a flush screen, and well, all very ipodish, and then it will all be clear.
So this will be no more than a screen protector on the PDA. It will not protect the buttons or lower raised section of the housing. Also won't protect the sides (too many buttons), and it seems that the tight curves will be a problem for this cover. I can see this peeling off the m700 in a very short time
If you know so much about it, then can you explain how it will work with a recessed screen? Will I be able to tap it all over with a key and not damage the phone, and if I throw it in a box of coins, will all the phone be safe from scratches and chips - just like the ipod?
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Lets get this straight....I haven't used this product...however when I saw the "link" I went to the manufacturers site to get a better understanding of it....
I watched the video and while it was of it being fitted to an ipod I got a basic understanding of how it could be fitted to a P3600i.
I didn't think it was "cling wrap", I understood that there would be several sections involved....including one for the recessed screen (yes, just like a normal screen protector) and I too would be skeptical of it protecting all parts of the phone.
There is a tendency in these forums for people to not search out information but to ask seemingly dumb questions.....
As this product is new for this model....why not just ask if anyone has tried it or ask the manufacturer for more information.....or is that too hard to do????
NOT FULL BODY...JUST SCREEN ONLY
The site says full body not Screen only, that's a separate option...
I would really like to know if and how exactly this works on 3600.
I actually have silicon case and screen protector for mine, but this would make it considerably smaller...
Bought and use the InvisibleShield
Folks,
I bought it and had it send to Holland. Took about 1 to 2 weeks but ok I am not in a hurry.
The full body covers basically all the shiny black plastic plus the screen. The rest (middles of the sides and the front keys) are not covered. Also offcourse the camera, speakers etc are not covered. However, and this is probably the difference between P3600 and P3600i the front camara is covered by the shield blurring the image. Now I have already put it on the camera but the next time I would use a hole puncher to add the extra hole. I probably will use a sharp hobby knife to cut an extra hole (on the other hand I never use video conferencing).
The plastic is more stronger and thicker then normal screen protectors. Haven't tried to scratch it on pupose and guess what I am not going to do it. If a scratch forms by accident I will mention it here.
The screen takes some getting used to with the new cover. The plastic does not "slide" as easy as the original screen protector or the screen itself. Maybe this is just in the first period.
The application process it pretty easy if you just take the time. Takes about 30 minutes if you do it slowly. Only 2 minor bubbles on the back but those are not really an issue, the rest is perfect.
Hey for 20 euro's I think it is a good deal. No horrible rubber case or GPS blocking metal case for me anymore. Only downside is that if the phone is dropped now there is no protection. This is only against scratches.
Lifetime guarantee so lets see how often I have to send it back.
All in all recommended so far (but that is just after 1 day of use)
I want to see it
Post a picture please
Isn't it invisible?..
See the invisible sheet
Well actually it is quit difficult to see but here are some picures. The picture from the side shows you some edges.
Edges
The edges that you can see in the pic don't seem to line up perfectly, how were the dimensions on the rest of the edges?
i've been thinkin of getting one of these since i saw them for ipods but that messy edge is scaring me away a little, also how are you finding the screen protector after a little more use?
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Well the edges are more because of my talent I think. The reason why I showed you this is because at least you can see something. For the rest it alligns perfectly.
After using it for a while it still seems a great product. I accidentaly dropped the thing but no scratch at all. What you do notice is the slightly more pressure you need when using the stylo. Also the screen protector is not as smooth as the original screen making the sliding a little more difficult. Also the plastic sticks to your ear while calling. But all in all still recommended.
I just put it onto the white one...
...and it is invisible. You can see it only on buttons' silver surrounding, on white parts only the edges are visible if you try really hard. I haven't got a good enough camera to show it, sorry.
It has a sticky feeling about it (maybe needs to dry more?). I don't like it on the screen - feels sticky and thick. I'd say use a decent screen protector instead.
It came WITH the cut-out for a camera (it's 3600i shield, I've got 3600), so it fits like a glove.
Oh, it's not a stress-free, low pressure 15 minutes application like they advertise it. It's fekkin pain in the ar$e one hour job, you're swetting your ar$e off. And - I guess - you can never get it perfect at the end. There will always be a bubble or misaligned edge somewhere (or is it me?).
Long term use review to follow.
sabestian said:
...and it is invisible. You can see it only on buttons' silver surrounding, on white parts only the edges are visible if you try really hard. I haven't got a good enough camera to show it, sorry.
It has a sticky feeling about it (maybe needs to dry more?). I don't like it on the screen - feels sticky and thick. I'd say use a decent screen protector instead.
It came WITH the cut-out for a camera (it's 3600i shield, I've got 3600), so it fits like a glove.
Oh, it's not a stress-free, low pressure 15 minutes application like they advertise it. It's fekkin pain in the ar$e one hour job, you're swetting your ar$e off. And - I guess - you can never get it perfect at the end. There will always be a bubble or misaligned edge somewhere (or is it me?).
Long term use review to follow.
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Any update to report? I'm thinking about buying one and would like your oppinion since you've now had it for a while.
Dimitri- said:
Folks,
I bought it and had it send to Holland. Took about 1 to 2 weeks but ok I am not in a hurry.
The full body covers basically all the shiny black plastic plus the screen. The rest (middles of the sides and the front keys) are not covered. Also offcourse the camera, speakers etc are not covered. However, and this is probably the difference between P3600 and P3600i the front camara is covered by the shield blurring the image. Now I have already put it on the camera but the next time I would use a hole puncher to add the extra hole. I probably will use a sharp hobby knife to cut an extra hole (on the other hand I never use video conferencing).
The plastic is more stronger and thicker then normal screen protectors. Haven't tried to scratch it on pupose and guess what I am not going to do it. If a scratch forms by accident I will mention it here.
The screen takes some getting used to with the new cover. The plastic does not "slide" as easy as the original screen protector or the screen itself. Maybe this is just in the first period.
The application process it pretty easy if you just take the time. Takes about 30 minutes if you do it slowly. Only 2 minor bubbles on the back but those are not really an issue, the rest is perfect.
Hey for 20 euro's I think it is a good deal. No horrible rubber case or GPS blocking metal case for me anymore. Only downside is that if the phone is dropped now there is no protection. This is only against scratches.
Lifetime guarantee so lets see how often I have to send it back.
All in all recommended so far (but that is just after 1 day of use)
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Same question for you... Any updates? Thank you...
Definately recommended
After using it a few months I still think it is definately worth the few euro's. Ok it sticks a bit when calling for a long time and I think I even managed to get a small scratch on it but I sort of abuse the fact that I have the shield. Store it with keys, never use a case etc.
No I have bought some useless accessoires such as aluminium case (blocks GPS) and the remote for mediaplayer but the shield I would really recommend.
Cheers,
Dimitri.
Just thought I'd share these, as the majority of generic online pictures do not do this device much justice and tend to lead people to incorrectly think that the Touch Cruise is a downgrade aesthetically from the original Touch and Touch Dual or even the "big" iPhone
BTW, I have seen many pics of the phone showing the hardware keys and jog wheel as being shiny instead of matte and the screen surround as being extremely reflective instead of a more smoked reflective finish. Is that just for pre-release? Or do I actually have an off version?
Basically a touch cruise type of screen vs a screen with plastic/metal borders.
Whats your experience, im torn between phones and want to know whats more useful.
my opinion is that the flush screen is a finger print magnet. on a Phone like the Cruise it will make it look dirty because of all the prints.
With the new touch interfaces how much does the flush screen contribute to usabilit?.
Those that switched from a bordered screen to a flush one pls let me know what relief you felt and what new annoyances have you encountered.
thx
The good part is that it's a lot easier to touch near the corners or edges with your fingers. For example, the "X" close button. When swiping your finger, you also don't run into a border.
The bad part it that the screen is less protected, but if you take good care of it, it shouldn't be a problem.
I am for the Flush screen because it makes using my favourite SIP Cootek's TouchPal so much easier.
I like flush better, things like scrollbars are so much easier to use.
On my touch, it seems like the touchscreen is about 3 milimeters more outside than the screen...
only my perception
Ive had an athena and a tytn, so in a direct comparison to the tytn, touch has a way better screen
I went from a Mogul to a Touch and I much prefer the flush screen. I don't like to get the stylus out in day to day use, so being able to access all corners of the screen with my thumb is a necessity.
seems like you all have agreed that flush screen is vastly more comfortable.
What is your experience with finger print marks on the surface and effectiveness of various screen protectors... do they slide around with out borders keeping them in place??
flush FTW.
going from a bezeled 6700 to flush touch, is marvelous and makes touchscreening alot easier.
+1 for flush, in additon to the huge functional benefits it also
1. helps avoid dirt buildup in the corners,
2. makes the screen look bigger as it is no longer overshadowed by the phone's border,
3. and looks a lot more aesthetically pleasing.
What is your experience with finger print marks on the surface and effectiveness of various screen protectors... do they slide around with out borders keeping them in place??
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I can't answer the screeen protector question as I think they look tacky, but from reading the boards, ppl say they have no problem sticking. As far as fingerprints, yea my touch cruise does get fingerprints, but I wipe them off regularly, and I use the incuded oem suede/microfiber form fitting pouch which tends to clean off the finger prints as you insert the device.
Flush is much better in my opinion. The flush screens on the Touch and Touch Cruise is a harder plastic unlike the normal touchscreen and I like that.
Also, it is easier to type on a flush screen.
I am using the O2 Atom Life. The bezel is at an angle so while the screen is sunk in, it is much easier to get in the corner compared to a regular sunk in screen.
Lol any arguments for sunk-in screens
haha guess no one wants to defent sun in screens
anyone??
On the TyTN I, those borders saved the screen countless times. I do not always have the pouch handy so a common decision is to put the thing down on a flat surface, screen facing downwards: that way nothing will fall on it, and spills will be less destructive. A typical iPhone-ish design won't last two weeks with me without scratches or worse, and would drive me paranoid even more. I value the peace of mind a lot, and I need a touchscreen. Sadly, good ole' designs with sunken screens, resistive touchscreens and lots of hardware buttons (yet another story) are becoming extinct.
Inconveniences are small. With some acrobatics, the Close button can still be quickly reached with a fingernail, even if they are short. Just try to use the plane of a fingernail, not its edge.
However a protective border that is high enough and some five millimeters away from screen corners could radically change experience for most users. Which manufacturer will have balls to dare such a thing, during the times when everyone is chasing iPhone? Let's hope that my TyTN will be still alive then. Since I've bought it a few years ago, I haven't seen any decent upgrade; even its cousin, Kaiser, has changed in the wrong direction -- would mean more problems than comfort. Apparently the choice will be harsh.
Okay guys first of all i know all the benefits to a screen protector, but on my old iPhone that didnt have a screen protector and the screen was fine, no scratches etc etc.... I was wondering do we really, really need a protector on the diamond? As im sure that without it it would be much smoother to use?
I applied my screen protector as soon as I unboxed my phone however was wondering of the opinions of people that a) didnt and b) took their protectors off and used the device.
Does the screen 'feel' any different without it?
Please post in the right section (Diamond accessories).
Screen protectors are advised, 'cause you reduce the risk of damage to the screen itself (which will be expensive to replace). It will dull the sensitivity slightly (although less than on the iPhone screens as they use different technology.)
HI
the diamond really need a screen protector
the glass is very fragile!
personnaly i ve made a little scratch
when i remove my old screen protector
with a knife!!!
the iphone as a really good screen
very hard to scratch....
anyone know whats the difference in screen tech between the iPhone and the Diamond?
irdawood said:
anyone know whats the difference in screen tech between the iPhone and the Diamond?
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Diamond has resistive touch screen, iPhone has capacitive.
That means the iPhone can have a solid (glass) front to the screen.
xboxmod said:
HI
the diamond really need a screen protector
the glass is very fragile!
personnaly i ve made a little scratch
when i remove my old screen protector
with a knife!!!
the iphone as a really good screen
very hard to scratch....
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Use the sticky side of a piece of tape to remove the old screenprotector.
That's the way the pro's are doing it. Use the same sticky tape to pick up small residue on screen before applying the new one.
I have PDA's more 10 years not the first but i still keep my old casio e-105 and since that a lot of them ...
For me it was all a big worry the screen scratches and so every pda had screen protector kit and i tried allot of them different brands different textures, glued , fitted etc...
Right now i look back on my desk and see a bunch of PDA all of them with beautiful screens none with scratches.. BUT.... BUT... I'm more happy to have 9 year old pda without scratches ??? don't think so....
I don't think i will be worst if one them had a screen scratch vs the issues a screen protector have, less sensitive worst view of screen etc...
In diamond is even worst because the screen don't have borders to fit the protection, so will add one more layer on top.......
Even if i have mixed feelings about it i will keep my diamond without screen protector...
maybe next year when i buy the new "whatsoever model" and put this on the shelf i will say damn scratch on the screen but so what.... its on shelf and the time i had keep it, i use that screen at full no lame plastics on top...
just a thought....
But the iPhones isn´t usable with a stylus only with fingers due to the influence in the static field of the capacitive touchscreen.
Well actually the Diamond got TWO touchscreens, it also have a capacitive touchscreen under the normal screen and under the touchpad (buttons) beside the resistive touchscreen on the surface of the screen. (sushilange fond that).
it is a must
you are mad if you don't
fcaeiro said:
I have PDA's more 10 years not the first but i still keep my old casio e-105 and since that a lot of them ...
For me it was all a big worry the screen scratches and so every pda had screen protector kit and i tried allot of them different brands different textures, glued , fitted etc...
Right now i look back on my desk and see a bunch of PDA all of them with beautiful screens none with scratches.. BUT.... BUT... I'm more happy to have 9 year old pda without scratches ??? don't think so....
I don't think i will be worst if one them had a screen scratch vs the issues a screen protector have, less sensitive worst view of screen etc...
In diamond is even worst because the screen don't have borders to fit the protection, so will add one more layer on top.......
Even if i have mixed feelings about it i will keep my diamond without screen protector...
maybe next year when i buy the new "whatsoever model" and put this on the shelf i will say damn scratch on the screen but so what.... its on shelf and the time i had keep it, i use that screen at full no lame plastics on top...
just a thought....
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But still love the Love and passion you speak of.
Something that looks this nice Should look as nice ass possible.
Maybe some company is smart enough to make a full body screen protector. (maybe it allready exist heavn't looked)
I have double feelings about this.
My Touch Screen wothout protections is starting to lose the top layer on the right side of screen (i never really got the hang of using that unnatural touch scrolling and kept using the scrollbar)
Try to teach an old dog new tricks
It's expensive, but this seems to be a good full-protection:
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
We will see this shamefull Spam through the fingers this time
The video sells let's be honoust.
But a video of how to strap on these Protective Phone Kevlar Condom Vests would be usefull.
If anyone get's he's her hands one one of these i'd be interested on how it looks and let's itself be applied. It is pricey but for the Price i'll be paying for the Pro it might be a very good investment.
im going to give that invisible shield a try. sounds cool and i like my devices like from box :>
Hi, I noticed the actual cutout of the punch hole is crooked towards left by a small difference. In fact, the entire display is crooked to one side, with the left bezel being slightly thinner than the right bezel. The unequal bezels are somewhat hard to ignore.
Anyone else face this issue?
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Hi, I noticed the actual cutout of the punch hole is crooked towards left by a small difference. In fact, the entire display is crooked to one side, with the left bezel being slightly thinner than the right bezel. The unequal bezels are somewhat hard to ignore.
Anyone else face this issue?
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That's not true on my phone
HipKat said:
That's not true on my phone
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Thanks for the reply. I can see about half a millimeter of difference here, not too much though. However, I am not able to overlook that, especially the unequal bezels.
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Thanks for the reply. I can see about half a millimeter of difference here, not too much though. However, I am not able to overlook that, especially the unequal bezels.
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you should consider a exchange with google under warranty for product defect.... though.... I've had the same camera issue and everything works fine so I didn't bother
Same thing on Pixel 6 Pro, the camera is not quite centered in the display hole. Can't tell along the sides, my eyes are simply not sensitive enough to tell if the whole display is off centered, but I doubt it.
With regards to the camera hole, I suspect it is actually the camera that is off center from the display hole. The cameras are almost "loose" in there, held in place by pressure only. If you actually took the display off from over the camera, you would see that it can move around a bit.
You talk about 500 micrometers. That is so small I would probably have a hard time noticing that on a display that is 16.29 centimeters wide. So it only deviates 0.003%, You must have great eyesight!!
That is a very interesting method to measure accuracy. Half a millimeter on something you touch and use and look at every day, several times, is very noticeable. There's a reason phone screens never feel/are like that - tolerances are much lower than you make them out to be. Imagine if internal components were off by .5mm
I looked at phones of other brands as well, and even my earlier phone had this deviation infact, but it is even larger in that case, at more than 1 millimeter. It seems to be there in all phones, across different brands, that I have seen so far.
With curved screens the difference seems easily noticeable for some reason though.
Having seen this deviation on various phones, this is something I think I will stop noticing eventually.
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You talk about 500 micrometers. That is so small I would probably have a hard time noticing that on a display that is 16.29 centimeters wide. So it only deviates 0.003%, You must have great eyesight!!
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Your math is only off by a factor of one hundred