I hate to nit-pick and I'm generally happy and relieved that I simply even got a unit, but both my left and right side are now creaky.. even the bottom is starting a bit.
I still have a week left, what should I do? Should I just return the unit and wait it out? Do anything think theres a way to stop the creaking?
Mine does the same, I am going to just accept it as others have this issue as well.
define creak? Mine has some flex in the back but no actual sound accompanying it.
docangle said:
Mine does the same, I am going to just accept it as others have this issue as well.
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Ya I've read that it's fairly widespread, but does yours creak on 3/4 of the sides? or just the left side?
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define creak? Mine has some flex in the back but no actual sound accompanying it.
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definitely with sound. it clicks
Nope none of that.
PS: I've had it for 2 weeks now.
Mine creaks on the 3/4 of the right side. That is if i press it/hold it hard enough. Usually I'm cradling it with both hands or having it attached to the keyboard dock, so it's not that big of a deal for me.
And we wonder how they got this tablet down to $400 Mine creaks on the upper right if I apply a little pressure (like if I hold it with one hand on that side), but it's not like it creaks enough to drive me crazy, or even drive me irritated. You sacrifice build quality for hitting that magic $400 price point, it is what it is.
If there is flex, then there means that there is empty space. If that's the case, why isn't the TF slimmer?!
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And we wonder how they got this tablet down to $400 Mine creaks on the upper right if I apply a little pressure (like if I hold it with one hand on that side), but it's not like it creaks enough to drive me crazy, or even drive me irritated. You sacrifice build quality for hitting that magic $400 price point, it is what it is.
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I'm sorry but that's simply false
My European HTC hero back cover creaked from the start and that thing has only seen torment for the past 2 years (7 ft. plus drops multiple times a week, don't ask ;_; ) and it's in full working order, undamaged. Creaky plastic does not signify build quality.
Mine creaks on the right hand side but I generally hold it with my left hand on the back of the unit or rest it on my stomach when in portrait mode, feet up sitting in my La-Z-Boy.
Had mine for 2 weeks and don't have any creaking in any orientation.
I have quite a bit of creaking as well, along with a gap on the left-hand side of the screen. I'll probably swap mine out before my 30 days is up with Amazon, and when stock is more available. I'm hoping that's how it works out, anyways.
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I'm sorry but that's simply false
My European HTC hero back cover creaked from the start and that thing has only seen torment for the past 2 years (7 ft. plus drops multiple times a week, don't ask ;_; ) and it's in full working order, undamaged. Creaky plastic does not signify build quality.
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And neither does light bleed, gaps, dust under the screen, or sharp edges, I guess Look I'm fine with some cut corners, it's what you have to expect when something seems to affordable too be true. I'm not saying that the Transformer is going to fall apart in your hands, but creaky build quality is usually a result of cutting corners.
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And neither does light bleed, gaps, dust under the screen, or sharp edges, I guess Look I'm fine with some cut corners, it's what you have to expect when something seems to affordable too be true. I'm not saying that the Transformer is going to fall apart in your hands, but creaky build quality is usually a result of cutting corners.
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Not everyone has lightbleed and even the iPad and iPad 2 had lightbleed issues, I doubt those were because of shoddy manufacturing.
Also the sharp edges are part of the design, I can't really relate to anyone complaining about the "sharp"corners since the angular bezel edge design really isn't that bad on your finger tips or hands.
Also my HTC hero has a dust spec under the screen, just because something isn't perfect in design doesn't mean it's shoddy manufacturing or cutting corners in manufacturing, it's just a flawed design.
Not sharp corners, sharp edges -- run your fingers along the back edge of the tablet and you'll see. Look, I don't care much about the build quality, it's satisfactory to me, but some of you are in denial
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Not sharp corners, sharp edges -- run your fingers along the back edge of the tablet and you'll see. Look, I don't care much about the build quality, it's satisfactory to me, but some of you are in denial
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Not denial, my point is it's flawed design, not build quality.
Sharp edges on plastic, enough to cut if you were the careless type, are not bad design, it's cutting corners, which is build quality. Exposed plastic like that would normally be dulled so as to not be so sharp, but leaving it raw like that is a cost-cutting move, and is a build-quality issue. So is light bleeding, screen dust, and creaking.
I can't poll every Transformer owner to see if they all have the same build quality issues, but I bet if a good number ran their fingers along the back edge to check for sharpness, applied pressure to the case to hear it creak, or checked for light bleeding, they'd have one, if not all three. Things to be expected during a first run, and definitely expected when you've undercut the competition by so much. My position is if those things bother you, return it. I'm keeping mine.
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Sharp edges on plastic, enough to cut if you were the careless type, are not bad design, it's cutting corners, which is build quality. Exposed plastic like that would normally be dulled so as to not be so sharp, but leaving it raw like that is a cost-cutting move, and is a build-quality issue. So is light bleeding, screen dust, and creaking.
I can't poll every Transformer owner to see if they all have the same build quality issues, but I bet if a good number ran their fingers along the back edge to check for sharpness, applied pressure to the case to hear it creak, or checked for light bleeding, they'd have one, if not all three. Things to be expected during a first run, and definitely expected when you've undercut the competition by so much. My position is if those things bother you, return it. I'm keeping mine.
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First off light bleeding is a fault of the LCD manufacturer. LG was at fault for the bad iPad 2 screens. Apple used both LG and Samsung, and only the LG ones had the issue quite regularly.
I don't have any plastic edges on mine. My plastic backing definitely fits inside the aluminum frame. I cannot feel any sharp edges along my back, and I'm trying to be nit picky for the sake of your argument. I have a slight creek in one spot on the right edge, that is the only build quality issue I have of all, and it is slight. My suggestion if you see separation or your plastic back is not inside the frame RMA it to Asus, or return to the store. It could be as simple of a fix of them taking it apart and putting it back together with more care.
I think the point is being missed here. I'm fine with the sharp edge -- hell, mine stays in the Asus case, I don't even feel it. The argument was whether or not build quality was compromised (and that includes parts from companies other than Asus, cost is cost), and I think it was. If you told me I could get a $400 tablet with an IPS screen, and I'd have to deal with a sharp edge and some creaking (I don't notice light bleed and I don't want to look for it because I don't want to notice it! ), I'd jump all over it. No need to get defensive, in the end it's just a piece of consumer electronics.
I should have made this thread long ago but I thought I'd be able to tolerate the problem. At the bottom of my phone between where the screen ends and the metal plate begins there is a small gap that extends the full width of the phone. I'd say about 1/2 to 2/3 mm separation. It's been there since I purchased the phone on October 30th. At the top its completely flush but on the bottom it is wide enough for dirt/dust to become trapped and has become a complete eyesore. Does any one else suffer from this? I hadn't seen anyone mention it.
I have the same issue. Guess I'm gonna have to live with it lol.. Replaced phone twice(not related to this issue) but the gap exists on all devices.
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I have the same issue. Guess I'm gonna have to live with it lol.. Replaced phone twice(not related to this issue) but the gap exists on all devices.
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I absolutely love this phone but there are some issues that are clearly starting to stand out that leads me to believe this phone was a rush job.
Just run a very thin strip of clear glue (superglue?) along the seam. Seal it up right.
There is no real good reason not to, actually. Shouldn't affect anything if it's a very small amount.
Or maybe clear silicone would be better since it would be easily removed without residue.
I don't have that gap. However, where the Black-Out section surrounding the Front Facing Cameras meet the 2nd Screen, there's some faint light-bleed ... an obvious gap in materials to the back of the camera.
This reminds me of the Blackberry Tour 9630 with similar gap ... at the end of 9 months the screen looked dirty when it was off. Those old phones were harder to take apart and clean than today's phones, so it's not much of a concern for me as it only takes 10 minutes to do this and when it goes back together it'll be easier to make a permanent fix.
Somehow I managed to chip a "divot" out of the body of my s7 (the regular one, not the galaxy edge). It's a roughly circular divot about 1cm in diameter, located at the 1:00 position above the front camera, on the very edge of the body where it rounds over to the front screen and just narrowly missing the front screen itself. I'm not noticing any problems so far. So, probably annoying but not fatal.
A picture would be good if you can take it, but odds are if it works now, you'll be fine.
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A picture would be good if you can take it, but odds are if it works now, you'll be fine.
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Here you go. You can see just how small the hole really is, but I don't want cracks to propagate from the edges. I wonder if there's something I can fill in the divot with. I've done some googling but people are mostly concerned about scratches.
I wouldn't worry too much about that -- it hit the aluminum and doesn't seem to have caused a separation in the seam.
Typically mars like that are considered normal wear and tear, and shouldn't affect your warranty. I've traded in/warrantied phones with marks like that all the way around the edges.
Did you post this on reddit asking what you could fill in that "diviot" with by anychance?!
Fill it with Aluminium filler and primer used for Alloy rims. I have done that on Galaxy S6. If you do it with patience, will not be very visible.
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Hello,
Received my Note10+ yesterday, so far love the device.
I just noticed today (this morning) on bright sun / light a gap of couple of millimeters on top of the screen.
Looks like screen is not going to the edge on top side only, is this normal?
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that gap is for the sensors and speaker
Thank you very much for your time and responding to this thread.
I am a little bit confused, isnt the speaker at the bottom?
I had Samsung S10+ until yesterday, and i do not remember seeing gap like this (its not the same phone, but, probably similar design / i might be wrong though).
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The gap in the middle 2 arrows are the cut out for the front speaker the other gaps are where the screen meets the frame sometime there bigger on different phones its hut and miss
But if it bothers you exchange it for one that fits a bit better
Thank you very much for responding.
I think i have 15 days to replace / return the phone (i will re-check), but, if its kinda normal, and possible on any other phone, even replacement, i do not think its wise to do it.
Once i put case on, i do not even think it will be that visible (hardly visible now as well if not on bright light).
Biggest concern if this would affect IP68 in anyway
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Thank you very much for responding.
I think i have 15 days to replace / return the phone (i will re-check), but, if its kinda normal, and possible on any other phone, even replacement, i do not think its wise to do it.
Once i put case on, i do not even think it will be that visible (hardly visible now as well if not on bright light).
Biggest concern if this would affect IP68 in anyway
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I think there is a way you can test the ip rating without obviously putting it in water
Back when I had the xperia phones you could squeeze the device and check the pressure didn't rise and stay risen to indicate its water tight
Thank you again for your time.
I decided to test that gap by pouring water on it for about 20-30 seconds, no issues at all.
I will not bother with this, will just enjoy the phone.
Thanks again.
The picture link is not working. From my understanding the only small gap should be in the center where the top speaker hole is. But the left and right side of the top speaker till the corner should not have any gap. I am having the same issue. I'm going to check to see if other models are like that.
Same, should not be there.
In the end i decided to return the phone.
Upon closer inspections took some photos and judging by other demo units on display. They all have that white line gap. Some are more noticable than others. But same line can be seen. I compared 3 different phones from different stores. They all exist. It's seems like that white line looks like maybe it's the adhesive glue. The middle does not have it where the ear speaker cutout is, where the ear speaker hole ends on both side left and right white line is visible because of the extra gap on both sides and it appears that the line stops before the corner on each side of the glass on the top. It's maybe nitpicking buts it's really annoying. I checked on the S10 it's not present on that model and none I see on the Note 9 too. I checked. And since it's like white color can be visible inside the small gap line on the top where the glass meets up with the metal frame.
I actually just discovered that I can get a piece of paper down between the top of the screen and the frame on my Note 10 +!!!??? All along the top of the glass - from the top left corner to the right?
Is this what you are talking about? And will the phone still be waterproof? (There could still be a rubber membrane that prevents water from entering the insides of the phone...)
This may sound crazy, but hear me out.
Initially I was excited because the P5 was so light in comparison to other fat behemoth phones that are out there nowadays for it's onehanded usability. Now that I've been using it for a while and realizing that it's sort of fatiguing to use even at its size, I think I figured it out. The phone's center of mass is quite high. Above the middle of the phone when you're holding it. It always feels like it wants to backflip out of my hand.
I ended up taping a washer to the bottom side of the back of my case for some ballast to move the center of mass down. It really seems to help.
Juding by the teardowns of the phone, it seems like the battery is somewhat narrow and tall, instead of (nearly) the entire width of the phone at the bottom. I suspect that's the reason for why it feels off.
Am I crazy?
I can't say you're crazy but I find mine pretty well balanced. If I lay it across my finger, roughly in the middle of the phone it balances pretty good. I will say, I'm 6'4 with larger hands so perhaps in just holding it I'm holding more of the phone.... Unless you have larger hands as well.
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I can't say you're crazy but I find mine pretty well balanced. If I lay it across my finger, roughly in the middle of the phone it balances pretty good. I will say, I'm 6'4 with larger hands so perhaps in just holding it I'm holding more of the phone.... Unless you have larger hands as well.
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My hands are pretty big too, I just find it weird. I really notice it with this phone. I had a OP6 before. Obviously that's bigger but I never really felt like it wanted to leap out of my hand. It was just kinda hard to hit the top left corner. Maybe I just hold my phone weird. Who knows.
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My hands are pretty big too, I just find it weird. I really notice it with this phone. I had a OP6 before. Obviously that's bigger but I never really felt like it wanted to leap out of my hand. It was just kinda hard to hit the top left corner. Maybe I just hold my phone weird. Who knows.
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I think it's the way you're holding it. I have my index finger under the phone, roughly in the middle and it's very well balanced top to bottom.
Me too. It seems pretty well balanced to me. I can put it across my finger pretty much central to the phone and it sits without toppling. I even have a tempered glass camera lens protector which would add a miniscule amount of weight to the top of the phone.
Coming from a OP 7T the Pixel 5 is wonderfully balanced in the hand, the 7t felt really top heavy thanks to is surfboard dimensions.