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Do NOT buy the Martin Field's Screen Protector

Just wanted to let everyone know NOT to buy these screen protectors... I bought one for my XDA II about two weeks ago and it's real crap.
The visual quality is awesome, sylus is smooth; HOWEVER, the touch screen becomes really hard. You need to tap the screen hard before anything will happen. Also, if you get one spec of dust under the screen, that section of the protector will not stick to the screen and you'll get a big bubble.
Save your $15US

It is probably the placement of the protector thats causing the problem, I suggest you see how close to the edges it is sitting, even a tiny part of the protector tucked under the edge can stop the screen working completely, I have heard nothing but good about this brand.

It's on there perfectly...
I had a G2 lying around for the Siemens SX56 and thought I would give that a try and see if it's any better. I installed it and it was a little too small (tuck wise), so it would move around slightly if you are playing games. I just put a drop of Super Glue in two corners (clean job) and it's perfect.
Awesome considering I only paid $14US for 2!

I have had no problems with the martin fields screen protector. I've tried to order a G2 screen protector a long time ago - waited two weeks and order never came, so I went with the martin fields. To get a real clean job, its good to have a piece of tape lying around - or use one of those Post it flags to remove the dust on the screen or the screen protector.
And putting superglue on your XDA II is insane. I highly recommend not to if you lack great hand dexterity. *imagines self* :roll:

I think it totally depends which you get... G2 doesn't "really" support the XDA II.
haha, yes yes... I used a small needle and everything. YOU DON'T WANT TOO MUCH GLUE, JUST A DROP TO HOLD IT DOWN. remember, you want to remove it later!

Superglue on your touchscreen??? :shock:

I bought MF and I don't have too much problem - other than my clumsy hands.
The tapping hard is not experienced as said here, but compared to without the screen protector (any one, not necessary MF), you need to tap harder & write harder. :roll:
As for taking the protector out and the dust, I learned the hard way -- use scotchtape to stick up the protector, use the scotchtape to stick off the dust, & don't use water or thinner to clean the sticky side -- use the scotchtape and gently peck on the sticky side. :wink:
cheers

I had the WRITEShield before the MFO's, and although they were great, the MFO's are heaps better. I have to say, I find the required touch to be much lighter than the WS's.
Many of the forum users over at MTekk love them too, infact this is the first complaint.
Hope you get your problems sorted...
Dave

I've no problems so far with MF.
No hard touch screen problem...infact its same as before putting on the protector.
The MF is cool....only minor comment is it will get scratch after a while of intense gaming or writing. Comparable with G2s.
The PDA shop recommend me to change it after 6~8 months....depending on the scratch surface.
So far I've not encountered a clear type Screen protector that doesn't scratch.
The ones from Brando Brand are Matt finished but will last forever without a scratch on it.
I let the shop assistant (actually, he is the boss!) fixed the thing for me and it looked like a tedious task to get a perfect job. The screen need to be cleaned, apply it slowly from the top side and if there is a dust spot, remove with cellotape. I couldn't have done a better job than him!

hmm, that's really weird. I have to tap it at least twice as hard on the edges and three times in the center.
At first I thought my LCD was dead, but I removed the protector and the touch does work awesome.

No problems here either. I've been using MF on all my phones, SE P800/900 and now my Qtek 2020. Also tried Brando's protector but it's not too bright, so prefere the MF.

Don't get me wrong, I love the visual quality, but can't stand the touch of it.

Screen getting small scratches

Despite being careful, my screen is increasingly getting scratched. The scratches are only noticeable when the device is off (thank goodness).
If there are any other persons with the same problem, please post here.

I guess that you did not use a screen protector, right?

Correct. I also own a TyTn II and have no issues with the screen whatsoever. Of all the devices I have owned over the years, only this TC has been an issue.

I was noticing the same so applied the included screen protector... I usually don't bother as I don't like them and the device is a throwaway after a year anyway so it's not a big deal. But in this case I figured if it was like that after a few weeks then after 6 months I'd probably not be able to see the screen!

I've had a few Palm devices before i switched to WM and i noticed this scratching as well......Luckily i'm using the included protector.
I have to say on my previous Palms i didn't have this problem, also while using a protector, which makes me suspect that the stylus is the real problem here.
Any thoughts on this?

I use the screen protector, and also got some spares. I also cover the whoel device with a liquid "screen" protector to helpthe faces from getting ruined. So far so good

Problem with the Touch Cruise (Polaris...) is, that the screen is - unlike the Kaiser's - flat and not indent. This means, its exposed to EVERYTHING it touches. Thus chances are higher you'll get one or two scratches once in a while.
Second thing which I can only cite other ppl on other forums: those Polaris allegedly have a softer top layer to be able to operate the unit using only your finger. This would support catching scratches as well...
I'd use the protector. It's a shame having scratches on that mirrored surface.

Schaggo, can you indicate what other forums people are commenting about the screen?
I am interested in your view that the top layer is softer than most others.

i agree that the stylus is the problem ... to much thin... , i tried one from nintendo ds , it's much more rounded and it slide better ( sorry for my english...)

vdavide said:
i agree that the stylus is the problem ...
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Yeah, I'm using one from my old IPAQ !

ou guys use other styluses? I use my finger, thats what the Touch series should be made for I know it doesnt really work, the fonts are way too small...
Hicksville, I cannot judge what the other ppl say because I used the protector right away. Nothing ever touched my screen without the protector applied. But as I got it, the top film seems to be made of a softer material than the one of other WM devices. Reason for that is the reason for the "Touch" in the devices name: to make the touch layer register the actual point, where the finger tries to point at. If the top layer would be harder/stiffer it allegedly cant tell where exactly the finger tried to hit the screen because the area involved ('touched' eg. pressed down) would be bigger than with a soft top layer. Thats what I got and which makes some sense.
And logically a soft surface is more prone to be 'hurt' than a surface made of hard material. So I guess this might be connected. But I have to repeat, these are all assumptions by users and in no way official statements.

I've been using my phone w/o a screen protector, and I haven't gotten any scratches. Like schaggo I mainly use my finger. I did however test the screen by applying a lot of pressure with the stylus in a sweeping motion, and I didn't get any scratches (don't ask me what possessed me to try this). I later tried a much more conclusive scratch test on a CDMA Touch unit in a store on both the screen and the body and got no scratches! Yes, I applied a lot of pressure, (However, someone else had managed to put a scratch on the CDMA Touch's screen, but that scratch was really deep and probably done with a really sharp object; on the other hand, I did my testing with my TC stylus). I coudln't scratch both the body or the screen using a lot of pressure from my stylus and my nails. Maybe some of you exposed the TC to coins or keys inadvertantly?

That's pretty gutsy to test it on your own device. I am using the screen protector and I have a few scratches on that which is fine. When the time comes, I'll replace it with a new protector. As far as the rest of the case, I have been very careful so far with my device and haven't gotten any scratches anywhere on it. I think that suede/rubber whatever feel of the device is nice but I think it will scratch.

hambola said:
That's pretty gutsy to test it on your own device. I am using the screen protector and I have a few scratches on that which is fine. When the time comes, I'll replace it with a new protector. As far as the rest of the case, I have been very careful so far with my device and haven't gotten any scratches anywhere on it. I think that suede/rubber whatever feel of the device is nice but I think it will scratch.
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Yes, very gutsy, I pushed hard enough to watch the screen sink it and rise back up very slowly...I don't know what I was thinking, but hey it turned out well w/o any scratches. The plastic on the screen is a lot stronger than your typical screen protector, so that fact along with my tests pretty much confirmed it for me. Furthermore, I don't like the look of screen protectors and I'm worried that they'll hinder touch flow.
As far as the casing, it seems bulletproof. But I'm like you, I keep it in the oem suede/microfiber case whenever its not being held to my ear for a phone call, and I've never put it in a pocket with anything else.

Actually with the suede comment I was talking about the body of the actual device. I'm not sure what that is but it has a nice texture to it. I haven't used that pouch that came in the package. Not a big fan of it. Head on over to the acc forum to see which cases people like. As far as the screen protector goes the original one does not hinder touch capabilities. Also in the acc forum they discuss different screen protectors, you might wanna check out one of those as well.

Tempered glass/tough as old boots - screen replacement?

Hi Guys
as per silkworms post I have seen this screeen available but i fears it going to be the same crappy plastic affair thats easily scratched that the phone is shipped with.
Does anyone know where I can get a tempered glass/hard as nails replacement please? It would be ideal if they can fit it as well. Or maybe you have experience with the screen linked above, is it any good?

Monty Burns said:
Hi Guys
as per silkworms post I have seen this screeen available but i fears it going to be the same crappy plastic affair thats easily scratched that the phone is shipped with.
Does anyone know where I can get a tempered glass/hard as nails replacement please? It would be ideal if they can fit it as well. Or maybe you have experience with the screen linked above, is it any good?
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hmmm, a hard screen would prohibit you from applying pressure to the digitiser yes!
so that no touch screen can work for you.
Iphone has tempered glass but uses capacative screen, so need need for pressure to be applied through the glass i think.
But the diamond is resistive screen and required physically to push on the digitiser (screen under the top screen) to detect input

aww crap..... problem is this screen is soooo soft, its getting scratched so easily and I didn't want another layer of plastic protector on the top.
This to me is the one major problem with this phone that I cannot seem to find a suitable answer for.
Thanks for your reply and what you say makes sense....

maybe a screen protector?
is not as good and makes the phone not look as nice but stops scratches ok.
or maybe sell your house and car so you have no keys in your pockets

I make sure I don't have keys or money in the same pocket. I think this gets scratched when I put it on my desk - which it should be able to handle!

Diamond screen
just keep mine in the leather pouch it came with never had a problem.
Phone: Orange HTC Touch Diamond
Rom: 1.93.405.1_WWE
Rom Date : 08/09/08.
Radio: 1.00.25.07
Protocol : 52.29.25.12H
Ext Rom : SwiftBL.Diamond V6.2
HSPL : 1.24

Monty Burns said:
I make sure I don't have keys or money in the same pocket. I think this gets scratched when I put it on my desk - which it should be able to handle!
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you put your diamond.....face down......on a desk.....! your nuts!

why? Its not bothered any other phone I've had ..... then again, I've never had such a soft, easily pushed in screen before either.
And yes I do, that's what the "turn it over to silence it" functions for.

I also was hesitant to put a screen protector on it. But I eventually did it (the one that came with the Diamond) - if you put it on neatly, it is virtually invisible, the screen is shiny, and I do not find any difference in sensitivity. Try it, if you do not like it you can always remove it. I am fine with this solution, and feel much easier about the danger of scratches. it not only protects the screen from scratches, but also from the danger of braking it by being hit, because the impact of an accidental hit on the screen gets physically distributed over a wider surface by the protector. Before applying it, I cleaned the screen with Displex display polish, so it would stick very evenly over the surface and the edges - which it did. I can only recommend it (before the first scratch appears....)

the screen of the diamond is supposed to be tempered glass!!
and on my diamond i can press the screen, but it does not feel soft at all.

sandervanzijl said:
the screen of the diamond is supposed to be tempered glass!!
and on my diamond i can press the screen, but it does not feel soft at all.
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Really? Touch your mates I-Phone screen and then yours ......

get the pouch PO S390 from HTC, it is toooo cool
PS. I am using it

sandervanzijl said:
the screen of the diamond is supposed to be tempered glass!!
and on my diamond i can press the screen, but it does not feel soft at all.
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No it's not. Underneath the top layer (which is the soft plastic that can scratch) it is tempered glass. HTC made this decision to protect the diamond screen from cracking. When pressure is applied to the casing that would otherwise cause the diamond to break in a bad way.
Without a capacitive screen (such as the iphone) you could not have glass as the top layer or else it could not recognise the stylus or your fingers.
It's better this way, as it means you have the option of a stylus. The iphone could never use a stylus for this reason.

screen protector

ok bought mine today, but no screen protector, am assuming its the same for everyone else, but whats your opinion, on whether or not its necessary, to have a screen protector.?

Doesn't come with one in the box.
I have ordered one as it better to be safe than sorry.

Yeh I suppose you are right but I may say for some very strange reason the screen looks and feels more robust than any phone I have ever used more or less like the iPhone

Mine got a faint scratch on day 1, from something in my pocket!
The screen cant be that strong!
Fon22

It's not nescesary until you get a scratch on your display
I always have two reasons why I get a screen protector:
1. To eliminate reflections. The Brando Anti-Glare ones are really good at this. I always use that kind of screen protector on all my devices (too bad they don't have it for the Desire... yet).
2. To avoid scratches. A scratch on the display is really nasty, especially when you constantly see it. And it will also influence the value later on when you want to sell the phone.
So.. if you, eventually, plan to sell the phone: Do yourself a favour and put a screen protector on it and -always- carry the phone in a case/pouch. You can sell the phone later as "As good as new! No scratches whatsoever!".
And if you want less reflection (at the cost of a somewhat more 'grainy' display) use an anti-glare protector. Those things are great when using your phone for navigation in the car when it's sunny!

marvi0 said:
ok bought mine today, but no screen protector, am assuming its the same for everyone else, but whats your opinion, on whether or not its necessary, to have a screen protector.?
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Get one. Cheaper when you think of it as an insurance policy! My Vikuiti protector is great. Probably replace it with the Brando when it becomes available.

I had a HD2 and the screen on that was next to impossible to scratch. A few times it was placed in my pocket with keys or screws. It even felt solid and scratch resistant. I heard it may well be glass.
Now the Desire. Hmmmmm. The screen feels a lot cheaper and bendy so I have really been careful with this one. I think you can see where this one is going?
I found a scratch on the top of the screen. How?! It has lived in it's case.
HTC got it so right with the HD2 and it now seems like a backward step again for what should have been a premium Android device.

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Have you tried microfiber cloth to see if it will come off?

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I don't own a Nexus S (I'm here doing research ) but that seems like something normal?
If you have a protected surface next to unprotected ones on the same area, it'll get less UV exposure and there will be some very light wear on the unprotected areas that might look perfect to your eye but because of these micro abrasions they're more likely to retain oil/dust/etc.
One of the very main reasons why I don't like screen protectors is that the phone doesn't "age" uniformly .

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1st you bought the device used for a YEAR .. what do you expect ?
2nd As long as you can make calls from it , why do you care ? some people bought used Nexuses and they can't even call lol
3rd Do you have an IMEI ? that's good

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So if you are such a passionate phone owner , why didn't you buy a new device so you can enjoy the screen ? You bought it used man ! Then you come here to complain ? See the recent posts of second hand buyers and thank god you have a working second hand nexus s.

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Election Day said:
How is this complaining? I am simply asking if anyone else has experience with the issue and maybe found a solution. That is all. If no one knows, I might find something out myself. And if I don't, maybe it will fade over time, and otherwise I'll just have to ignore it.
And by the way, I would have bought a new one if they were still for sale here, but they weren't. I had to choose between importing for €600 or this second-hand for €140. I don't think it was such a bad choice in the end, but that's no reason to not try and make the best of it.
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I see the point here ....
It seems that buying a new Nexus S online was not an option available for you ....
However , I would not spend more time trying to clean the screen with different things , those screen are fragile and I'm sure you don't wanna mess it up more than it is ...
Goodluck.

Honestly, who protects just the "touchscreen" part of the screen?
I mean as much as I can gather from the pictures, the screen protector only covered the 4 inch screen not the whole front of the phone. Was it cheaper or something?
It's normal for the oleophobic coating to fade. Not using any screen protector from now on will probably result in it evening out in time.
If it's that distracting, just buy a full size screen protector, clean the screen really well and apply it. Wet application screen protectors are best on the nexus because they stick to the curved screen better.
Cheers

What Flukzr said, the screen would have been fine if it was a full size screen protector. I've never actually seen a protector that is JUST for the 4-inch screen and not the whole glass front.
Sadly there is not much you can do aside from replacing the glass, the oleophobic coating at the top and bottom has worn out (i believe this requires the lcd/amoled back too). However, you can use a full size screen protector and you shouldn't notice it.

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I'm guessing the only way to naturally remove the coating, would be to use it without a pouch, and keep it in you pants' (jeans) pocket.
Not that I'm recommending this, but you could try solvents, nail polish thinner (acetone), lighter fluid, alcohol etc. and see which one works. Since the screen is glass, it should be ok, unless you use acid or really strong solvents.

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Just a thought...
If this discoloration is driving you ape s#!t, consider purchasing a new digitizer... Once again this is just a thought, as I do not own a Nexus. I was just surfing and thought I'd add my 2 cents...
Hope I helped
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk

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LOL, I've never seen anything like this. who protects only those 4 inches of the screen? when i read the title of this thread i got a little worried since i use a screen protector on my nexus s but mine covers the whole thing so i think I'm in the clear.
Honestly i think your best option here is to just use a screen protector on the whole screen. Or just leaving it alone and hopefully let time do its thing. I guess you have to choose which one bothers you less, the annoying rectangle or a screen protector.

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