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Gmail on Windows Mobile Devices

I just picked up an HTC X7501 Advantage and I'm trying to find the best way to run Gmail on it. So far I've tried three methods:
1) running the web version on Pocket IE or Opera
2) the java app for gmail (http://www.google.com/mobile/mail/index.html)
3) Pocket Gmail (http://gmobile.phpmagazine.net/)
Of the three the java app crashes fairly often but seems to work the best when it runs. Pocket Gmail offers some options the others don't but doesn't look as good as the java app. the web version is probably the worst of the three.
I tried setting up Outlook to retrieve my gmail but it stopped after about 500 messages and only seemed to download the oldest ones. It also can't support threads (something I love).
How do other people run Gmail on Windows Mobile devices? Any ideas or suggestions?

whoster69 said:
I tried setting up Outlook to retrieve my gmail but it stopped after about 500 messages and only seemed to download the oldest ones. It also can't support threads (something I love).
How do other people run Gmail on Windows Mobile devices? Any ideas or suggestions?
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To get around the POP / Outlook / which messages to retreive issue, there are little known commands to use in GMAIL. In your outlook setup for your Gmail account, prepend your usename with "recent:". So your username should look like
recent:[email protected]
See what happens when you retrieve messages now, this might be what you are looking for.

Wow, sounds like some usefull info. I'll try that later, thanks.

Thank you TC1. I'll give that a try as well!

Any chance of getting the other little known commands listed here.

gh8421 said:
Any chance of getting the other little known commands listed here.
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Yeah that would be great!

T-Mobile Solution
Hi,
This may only work if you have T-Mobile in the US but I take advantage of T-Mobile's mail server for my gmail. I set up the account on t-mobile's website and access it on my phone using t-mobile's pop3 servers. Works great but every month or so I have to go on my t-mobile site and delete the old mail off or it stops collecting any new mail. Hope that helps somebody.
Cinamon

I just use the Java App, never had a problem with it crashing. Though, may depend on the midlet manager you use.

BBowermaster said:
I just use the Java App, never had a problem with it crashing. Though, may depend on the midlet manager you use.
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midlet manager? Huh?

The midlet manager is essentialy the PocketPC Java VM that you use to run java apps which in the case of mobile devices are called "midlets"

Urthwhyte said:
The midlet manager is essentialy the PocketPC Java VM that you use to run java apps which in the case of mobile devices are called "midlets"
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How do you get different ones? How do you tell which you have?
Thank you for the information.

So does no one have an answer to this? (See previous post directly above)...

if you search the forum for
"midlet AND manager"
you're sure to get link for a few
buzzdev.net also have 1 or 2

If you go into the "Java" application on your Programs folder, and press the Menu key or whatnot, there's usually an "About" option where you can see the build and name and whatnot...
Hope that helps

Urthwhyte said:
If you go into the "Java" application on your Programs folder, and press the Menu key or whatnot, there's usually an "About" option where you can see the build and name and whatnot...
Hope that helps
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Man, I should have seen that. Thanks for pointing it out. Here's what it said.
"inten Java MIDlet Manager
Copyright 2003 - 2007 Tao Group Limited
Runtime MIDP 2.0: v10.1.7.575 (Build 20070403)
I'll check into some of the others. Does anyone have any experience with the one I mentioned above? Good/bad/otherwise?
Thanks!

TC1 said:
To get around the POP / Outlook / which messages to retreive issue, there are little known commands to use in GMAIL. In your outlook setup for your Gmail account, prepend your usename with "recent:". So your username should look like
recent:[email protected]
See what happens when you retrieve messages now, this might be what you are looking for.
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this worked beautifully! been struggling with this problem for awhile! the funny thing is, when i first did the setup wizard, i remember outlook had automatically put the 'recent:' prefix in front of my username. but thinking it would be a problem, i deleted the prefix! totally forgot about that until this was mentioned..
Thanks!

TC1 said:
To get around the POP / Outlook / which messages to retreive issue, there are little known commands to use in GMAIL. In your outlook setup for your Gmail account, prepend your usename with "recent:". So your username should look like
recent:[email protected]
See what happens when you retrieve messages now, this might be what you are looking for.
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That had me proper baffled - but I did it and it worked perfectly. Thanks!

This Really Needs To Be Sorted (wm6_live)

There is a CLEAR evident problem with windows live mobile. When you login with your ID. things work fine. But if you drop your cell connection or soft reset you will get endless syncronization errors and push email will no longer work for you. The only solution is to clear your ID and log in again, but undoubtedly this will error again during your working day.
I did a search on this and other forums and many people are having the same problem,yet no solutions have been offered.
Up until about a month ago (maybe less), Windows Live Mobile was synching and pushing emails just fine. Something has changed. Its not my GPRS connection as I have tested the same with Wifi. Its not my ROM as I have reflashed and even tried others.
By the way im using a HTC Touch.
CAN ANYONE HELP?!

OH COME ON!
I KNOW im not the only one with this problem..

Im bumping this because quite frankly it IS a serious issue that DOES NOT deseve to be ignored.

bump again

Same issue on Samsung i760
I've got the same issue with Windows Live (.0066 version) on VZW Samsung i760. Push works for about a day after removing account from PDA and re-installing, but then stops and despite the "As items arrive" setting, I have to manually sync. And even the manual only works 1/3 of the time. Very frustrating.

I have the same bloody annoying issue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BUMP. Come one people! I know others have this problem. Why hasnt it been addressed?

Well, maybe because:
1) We can't DO anything about it. If it's a problem as you described, then it's a problem in WLM itself.
2) Maybe not many here are actually having this problem? I know I'm not.
Constant bumping isn't going to help any.

FloatingFatMan said:
Well, maybe because:
1) We can't DO anything about it. If it's a problem as you described, then it's a problem in WLM itself.
2) Maybe not many here are actually having this problem? I know I'm not.
Constant bumping isn't going to help any.
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Better I bump this thread then we continue with the countless other threads where other individuals report the same problem but are ignored.
This really needs to be addressed, or at the very least acknowledged.

Same Problem
worked 100% on one of the many WM6 roms out for the Tytn. Upgraded to the Tytn II and WLM fails to sync more than it works!!!

darthbane2k said:
Better I bump this thread then we continue with the countless other threads where other individuals report the same problem but are ignored.
This really needs to be addressed, or at the very least acknowledged.
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Well, there's very little anyone here can actually DO about it. Have you submitted a bug report to Microsoft? Have you checked in the appropriate Microsoft newsgroups to see if they're aware of it? Have you POSTED in the appropriate Microsoft newsgroups to find out if they're aware of it?

i think it's device/rom dependent as well. i had nightmares with this issue on most of the prophet wm6's, but now i'm using an artemis, with meschle's 3.0, and so far it seems to be working fine. maybe someone can do a poll or something...

Same issue, and yes this needs some attention
I have been experiencing all the same issues on my Tilt/Kaiser. I have tried various ROMs and different versions of WL but the problems persist. Most notably is that Push Email does NOT work. I also experience multiple sync errors daily.
This is a major problem for me as I am currently relying on Hotmail as my primary email account.
Funny thing is WL worked great on my Hermes, but I have not retested since switching to the Tilt over a month ago.
Does anyone have WL Push email working correctly on a Kaiser?

Conversation with Windows Live Mobile Tech support
Sorry for posting this in a few different places, but I am getting really frustrated with my Windows Live Mail not working corretly on my Tilt and I decided to contact MS Tech support to see if there was anything they could recommend.
Below is the convo that I had back and forth with the Support Rep.
Windows Live Push email does not work on my HTC Kaiser Tytn II device.
In order for my Live Hotmail email to sync I have to manually initiate a sync, even though my settings are configured to deliver emails As items arrive. I have tried changing these settings around several times, but it does not make a difference.
Furthermore I receive multiple sync errors often, and most of the times when I delete an email on my device it fails to delete off the server.
I did not have these problems using Windows Live with my HTC Hermes Tytn running Windows Mobile 6.
I have also tried signing out of the Windows Live app and then signing in. I have Hard Reset my device (back to manufacturer default) and still experience the problems. I have also tried with NO 3rd party programs installed and still the push email does not sync correctly.
I have also tried different versions of the Windows Live app that are floating around the internet, such as 10.6.32.2100 and 10.6.33.600. Neither of these newer builds fixed my problem.
Is there a way to fix the issues I am having with Windows Live App push email functionality on the HTC Kaiser Tytn II?
RESPONSE 1
Thank you for contacting Windows Live Mobile Technical Support. My name is Teddy and I understand that you have issues synching your Live Hotmail on your HTC Kaiser Tytn II device. I apologize for the inconvenience. I appreciate the time you have taken to advise us of your experiences and I hope to offer as much assistance as possible.>
We have received reports from other customers experiencing similar contacts synchronization issues. Based on our investigation, this issue occurs when the Windows Live application in the device is having trouble synchronizing with the Messenger servers.
They were able to resolve this issue by doing the steps below:
A. Changing your saved Windows Live Messenger display picture.
Errors appear during synchronization when the server is experiencing difficulty fetching your saved Messenger display picture. To avoid this from happening, let's try to change your display picture to a default picture. To do this:
1. Sign in to Windows Live Messenger using a computer.
2. Change your display picture to a default picture.
3. Try to sign again on your mobile device.
B. Re-synchronize your account.
You may also need to reset your Windows Live account on your Windows Mobile-powered device by signing out and signing in again. To sign out, please refer to the instructions below:
1. On your mobile device, tap "Start" and then select "Windows Live."
2. Tap "Menu" and then "Account Options."
3. Tap "Switch account."
4. You will be prompted to confirm account switching as this action will sign you out of Windows Live, preventing you from seeing your e-mail inbox. Tap "Yes" to continue.
5. You shall be redirected to the Terms of Use screen, an indication that you are already signed out of Windows Live.
To sign back in:
1. Tap "Start" and then select "Windows Live."
3. Tap "Sign in to Windows Live."
4. Tap "Accept" on the Windows Live Terms of Use screen.
5. Enter your MSN or Hotmail e-mail address and its corresponding password.
6. Tap "Next."
7. Choose if you wish to have the Live Search bar or Windows Live services on your device's "Today" screen and tap "Next."
8. Choose of you wish to sync either Contacts and Messenger contact or e-mail (or both) with your mobile device then tap "Next" to continue.
9. Wait as your mobile device syncs with your Windows Live account. Tap "Done" when sync is complete.
10. Open Windows Live Messenger and check if your online contacts now appear as online.
The steps above should help you fix this problem. If the issue persists, we want to continue assisting you until this is resolved.
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Trying both A and B above fixed the issue... until I did a soft reset. Then the same problems returned. So I emailed again and got the below response.
I performed the steps listed in A and B of your email (Changed Display Picture and Switch Accounts). I changed my messenger display picture to No Display Picture and signed out of Windows Live on my Tytn II and then soft reset the phone. After the phone rebooted I signed back into Windows Live.
At first this did seem to fix the problem. All of my emails started coming through (at Push speeds) and I did not encounter any sync errors. However, after I performed a soft reset on the phone, all of my problems started again. Windows Live would show sync status stuck on "Checking Internet Connectivity" even though I have network coverage and can browse the web via PIE. I would have to manually click on the sync button to get syncing started. Emails stopped coming through as push (even though I have delivery set to "As items arrive") and I started receiving sync errors again.
Below are the answers to the questions you asked.
- HTC Tytn II
- Windows Mobile 6
- Carrier: At&t Location: I am in the Dallas/Fort Worth Texas area - zip 76262
- *****@hotmail.com
- yes it happens on any Windows Live account
- currently the version of Windows Live on my device is 10.6.33.600, although I have tried the original build (can't remember #) that came on my device along with build 10.6.32.2100. All versions have had the same problem on my device.
I appreciate your help and look forward to hearing a solution to this issue. I pay the $19.99/year fee for premium Hotmail/Live mail features and use this email as my primary email and contact manager. I really need this program to work on my device.
RESPONSE 2
Thank you for writing back to Windows Live Mobile Technical Support. My name is Teddy. I understand that you still have issues synching your Live Hotmail on your HTC Kaiser Tytn II device. I apologize for the inconvenience.
We received feedback from a few customers experiencing similar issues. We are currently looking into the reason why this is occurring, and our product team is engaging additional resources to locate and isolate what is causing the issue. The details you included in your email will be very helpful to our investigation.
At this time, there is no definite timeframe for a resolution yet. However, we wanted to let you know that this is definitely our top-most priority. Thank you for your patience while we work on a solution.
We appreciate your continued support as we strive to provide you with the highest quality service available. Thank you for using Windows Live Mobile Technical Support.
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So at least MS is aware of the problem and hopefully a newer build of WL will leak onto these boards soon that includes a fix.

docjosh said:
I've got the same issue with Windows Live (.0066 version) on VZW Samsung i760. Push works for about a day after removing account from PDA and re-installing, but then stops and despite the "As items arrive" setting, I have to manually sync. And even the manual only works 1/3 of the time. Very frustrating.
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How'd you get windows live on the vzw Samsung i760? I'm trying to find it and can't. Was it included with your phone? Wasn't with mine. perhaps this bug is why.

Pictures not downloading in email when clicked

Im posting this here because ive had this problem on a fuze rom AND several kaiser roms AND the chefs NEVER answered soo i believe i can post it here for wider range of support..when i get an email that has pics it has that box at the top "internet pictures blocked" and when you click it you get "download internet pictures" of course..and when i click it it seems to load and goes right back to "internet pics blocked" whats the deal? i know people have had this problem and maybe fixed it..anyone?

Hmmm have you looked at this thread?....if I didn't know better I'd say it was a by default design on the WM platform. And of course you're not the only one wanting this feature.

2 words.... Flex Mail
it does exactly what outlook PC does... for email

[email protected] said:
Hmmm have you looked at this thread?....if I didn't know better I'd say it was a by default design on the WM platform. And of course you're not the only one wanting this feature.
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thats not my issue..my issue is EVEN clicked i cannot get images to display..i dont care about them showing by default without downloading them..i just want them to download in the first place..
nhvoltagenh said:
2 words.... Flex Mail
it does exactly what outlook PC does... for email
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just installed it and set everything up..still cannot see pics in preview box or full window and there is no option to download so still not a help..oh and finger scrolling doesnt work like in the native wm outloook which is a letdown it only hilights..

ok ive solved my issue (i guess the reg edits ive used for the past 2 years to disable att proxy were messed up (space in a word in one of the values thats not supposed to be there)) so that got PIE working (which ws the original culprit cause if pie doesnt work u cant view pics in outlook)) and thus got my pics to show BUT flexmail SUCKS..the imap idle doesnt work AT ALL with gmail and i mainly use exhange and that doesnt work either and a matter of fact i cant even recieve outlook emails AT ALL so i cant view ANY exchange emails in outlook..LAME

pazookie said:
ok ive solved my issue (i guess the reg edits ive used for the past 2 years to disable att proxy were messed up (space in a word in one of the values thats not supposed to be there)) so that got PIE working (which ws the original culprit cause if pie doesnt work u cant view pics in outlook)) and thus got my pics to show BUT flexmail SUCKS..the imap idle doesnt work AT ALL with gmail and i mainly use exhange and that doesnt work either and a matter of fact i cant even recieve outlook emails AT ALL so i cant view ANY exchange emails in outlook..LAME
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Hmmmm...nice. Can you tell me which key you looked for in the registry? I'm curious to see if it might be of any help to me.
Thanks.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings]
"EnableAutoDetect"=dword:00000001

Integrated Messenger

Hi guys, just had a quick question. I've done my searching on both Google and XDA and I'm posting this thread as a last resort.
I'm on build 7720 and I can't seem to figure out how to set up the integrated messenger. When I slide over to the "online" section in messaging it says there is no one online when clearly I have a few people online. How do I get my contacts to show up in the "online" section?
P.S. It's been like this on all 3 builds of Mango for me.
Thanks for any input guys!

Nissan350 said:
Hi guys, just had a quick question. I've done my searching on both Google and XDA and I'm posting this thread as a last resort.
I'm on build 7720 and I can't seem to figure out how to set up the integrated messenger. When I slide over to the "online" section in messaging it says there is no one online when clearly I have a few people online. How do I get my contacts to show up in the "online" section?
P.S. It's been like this on all 3 builds of Mango for me.
Thanks for any input guys!
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1) First question is, have you put yourself online in the status menu?
- Pull up the action bar, tap the status button, then tap 'online'. This will actually connect you and show you as online.
If you are online, then:
2) Do you have the right Windows Live ID sync'd?
- The integrated messenger app will only connect to the PRIMARY Windows Live ID. So you need to make sure that the Live ID you have set up with your phone initially (the one set as your main) is also the one you use for your Windows Live Messenger contacts.
If you have the right Windows Live ID, then:
3) Try adding a new contact and seeing if that contact appears on the phone.
- Add a new contact, preferably one not on your contact list currently, to see if the person shows up on your phone. Sometimes, it may simply be a sync'ing or provisioning error on Windows Live's end, and it may not be your phone. If this helps, you may have to remove your previous contacts and re-add them to allow Windows Live to provision them properly for your phone.
Then, if you are having issues with your Facebook contacts as well:
4) Contrary to popular belief, your Facebook contacts (or Twitter/LinkedIn contacts) not appearing is not a Windows Phone bug. Its simply a server side error with Windows Live and Facebook. Both of them need to sync up with your Windows Live ID, and sometimes that takes a while (from a couple hours to a couple days). In some cases, it doesn't happen at all, and a hard reset may be necessary to give Windows Live and Facebook a wake up call, but even this does not always work.
If all else fails:
5) Then unfortunately we can't be sure why its not working. Microsoft does not provide support for beta software so we probably won't see any real solutions until Mango is finally released and other people start reporting this issue. So you may be out of luck. Try a different Windows Live ID to see if that works, check to make sure your contacts haven't blocked you (or you blocked them). Or just wait it out and see if the Windows Live servers resolve it in time.
Hope it gets fixed for you. It has worked flawlessly for me ever since the first beta (though it did take a couple of hours for my contacts to show up initially), so its certainly not a Windows Phone issue.

Is those ppl tht is online, shows up in ur address book?
Sent from my LG Optimus 7

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1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Hope it gets fixed for you. It has worked flawlessly for me ever since the first beta (though it did take a couple of hours for my contacts to show up initially), so its certainly not a Windows Phone issue.
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thank you for this useful, very extensive post.
cheers

prjkthack said:
1) First question is, have you put yourself online in the status menu?
- Pull up the action bar, tap the status button, then tap 'online'. This will actually connect you and show you as online.
If you are online, then:
2) Do you have the right Windows Live ID sync'd?
- The integrated messenger app will only connect to the PRIMARY Windows Live ID. So you need to make sure that the Live ID you have set up with your phone initially (the one set as your main) is also the one you use for your Windows Live Messenger contacts.
If you have the right Windows Live ID, then:
3) Try adding a new contact and seeing if that contact appears on the phone.
- Add a new contact, preferably one not on your contact list currently, to see if the person shows up on your phone. Sometimes, it may simply be a sync'ing or provisioning error on Windows Live's end, and it may not be your phone. If this helps, you may have to remove your previous contacts and re-add them to allow Windows Live to provision them properly for your phone.
Then, if you are having issues with your Facebook contacts as well:
4) Contrary to popular belief, your Facebook contacts (or Twitter/LinkedIn contacts) not appearing is not a Windows Phone bug. Its simply a server side error with Windows Live and Facebook. Both of them need to sync up with your Windows Live ID, and sometimes that takes a while (from a couple hours to a couple days). In some cases, it doesn't happen at all, and a hard reset may be necessary to give Windows Live and Facebook a wake up call, but even this does not always work.
If all else fails:
5) Then unfortunately we can't be sure why its not working. Microsoft does not provide support for beta software so we probably won't see any real solutions until Mango is finally released and other people start reporting this issue. So you may be out of luck. Try a different Windows Live ID to see if that works, check to make sure your contacts haven't blocked you (or you blocked them). Or just wait it out and see if the Windows Live servers resolve it in time.
Hope it gets fixed for you. It has worked flawlessly for me ever since the first beta (though it did take a couple of hours for my contacts to show up initially), so its certainly not a Windows Phone issue.
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Thanks for going in depth with this! It worked after I signed out of messenger and signed back in. I'm guessing it had to reconnect for some reason.
Thanks again!

Only works on wifi
Hi,
I have a different problem... for some reason I can only connect to the messenger service when I am on a wifi network? It won't work over the cellular network even with a hsdpa connection? It just says "Can't connect to chat".
Anybody else have this problem?
I'm using a Dell Venue Pro Build 7720 on Vodafone UK.

are you using it on a work network? maybe they are blocking IM.
I use it on wifi...
sometimes i have problems from live (on the phone) to my office's Lync server.. but that might just have been in the beta.

Working
I figured it out last night and yes your right, it was the network blocking it. I turned off content control with Vodafone and now it works.

[Q] How to get windows live messenger to work

I have a HTC HD7 with mango, but although I have a hotmail account (which I use for MSN) it only gives me the options to sync emails, and I cant find anyway to enable messenger on it, anyone know how this is done on mango? or if it is even possible?
Im sure it supposed to work like the facebook chat but i dont appear to have an option for it (my facebook chay DOES work).

It's not in the settings as it's activated by default. Just change your status in the messaging hub to anything but "Offline"" and you should see your Messenger contacts that are online.

tried that but it doesnt show any of my msn contacts, I even tried playing around with my filter options (for the people hub contacts) and none of my MSN buddies or in the list.
also when you press the icon with the 2 arror buttons (left/right arrows) it only gives options of TXT and Facebook, it foesnt give a messenger option.

i have the same problem on my HD7. the 'onlline' tab only shows my friends from facebook chat and not WLM.. and i dont know why

is your windows live account the one you used to sign into the phone? go to home.live.com and see if you can see and chat with your friends online via hotmail....

After I updated to mango I had to hard reset my phone and everything worked.
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abond32 said:
After I updated to mango I had to hard reset my phone and everything worked.
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Yup that might help too. Also have to make sure the MAIN Windows Live ID that your phone is signed into is the one you use for Messenger. If you've added additional Windows Live IDs, you'll get e-mails/calendar/contacts..etc but not Messenger.

It works reasonably well for me (the first message you get in a convo has an annoying tendency to to go the phone and not to the PC, which is a pain if you're signed on to both at once. The real problem, though, is that it only works with the primary WLID. Such a waste of a good feature.