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MSN Messenger?

Newbie here
After a few calls to various "customer advisors" at O2 I am still less the wiser to how much I'm being charged while logged in/using MSN messenger on my XDA2s......
Anyone able to shed some light on this?

install the gprs monitor on the cd u got with it set it up to monitor the gprs connection and modify it to the correct prices! simple then it will tell u how much is going in and out on GPRS and the cost!

What might be happening is that once you tap to close MSN when you've finished, it doesn't actually close MSN down - it only minimises it. Do you have your GPRS connected a lot of the time? Do you have an autocheck set up on your email which may check for new mail?
As collins says, make sure you have a GPRS monitor program running. Why not set up a test after you've done what you think you should do to end an MSN / GPRS session, make it alert you after only the slightest bit of data has been used. Then check what programs / utilities are running on the phone.
Cheers
Anthony

or hold your finger down on the red end call button untill the conecttion
disconnects then if it trys to restart something in the background is trying to access GPRS

pushmail/exchange confusion... driving me nuts. arrr

Hi. I've been using mail2web services for a while. They were great until the last couple of weeks, now their service goes down like a pro.
So.. I started to look at alternatives.
fastmail -- nice account, IMAP.. but for the life of me I couldn't get it to "push" email to my phone. It supposedly supports IDLE, but I couldn't figure this out. Am I missing a setting somewhere? The thing never pushed mail to my phone at all.
1and1.com -- slightly more expensive exchange2003 account. No .CAB for the activesynch settings, they have to be input manually. No problem, until I set "as arrives" in scheduling and it asks me for an SMS gateway. Uh-oh. Im on Softbank and I know nothing about any gateway.
this post:
http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=410683
explains that Exchange works by sending a header SMS to instruct the phone to synch. However, mail2web never asked me for my provider or any SMS gateway.. so if this is how it works how did mail2web do it?
If anyone can shed some light on how to get this working properly, or where to find more technical details on how this stuff works I'd be a lot happier. As it is I'm having to check gmail periodically.
Thanks for your help!

I think your getting mixed up a bit sir, mail2web uses the push feature because it uses your GPRS connection to talk to it. If you ran a netstat program to see what the device is currently connected to you will see an active connection to mobile.exchange.mail2web.com, as soon as an email arrives it signals activsync on your device to synchronise your emails, the device simply tells you that there is an unread message. The connection is always on. If you have GSM signal but no active data connection you wont get your push emails.
The connection is always on but stuff is sent to and fro only when there is a change on one end (for example if you add a new contact.....it will sync with the mail2web server and the new contact will be on there aswell).
and FYI...mail2web has been a bit unreliable lately but its ok at the moment!?

Thanks for the info.
So..... do you have any advice as to how I would set up activesynch the same way to connect to 1and1?
When I set it up it asks me for the gateway, otherwise won't let me choose "when arrives" for scheduling, could this be a setting on my side, or a setting on their servers?
mail2web may be OK now, but for a non-free service 1 whole week of unreliability is enough for me. Who knows how long it'll be up before problems start again.

mrvanx said:
I think your getting mixed up a bit sir, mail2web uses the push feature because it uses your GPRS connection to talk to it. If you ran a netstat program to see what the device is currently connected to you will see an active connection to mobile.exchange.mail2web.com, as soon as an email arrives it signals activsync on your device to synchronise your emails, the device simply tells you that there is an unread message. The connection is always on. If you have GSM signal but no active data connection you wont get your push emails.
The connection is always on but stuff is sent to and fro only when there is a change on one end (for example if you add a new contact.....it will sync with the mail2web server and the new contact will be on there aswell).
and FYI...mail2web has been a bit unreliable lately but its ok at the moment!?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
mail2web seems back to normal service today... Nearly
But yes one week without push... including sometimes when your email just do not even reach your acount and bounce (ie they're just lost...) it's not really what we need
I hope in the future more and more providers will propose Exchange 2007 accounts by default...

I am also a former m2w user. canceled my account in fury after indeed more than three weeks of problems, topped with a week off.
Fortunately my school's email supports ActiveSync so I moved there.
I cannot recommend any particular commercial replacement.
I've heard a few folks using Goodlink, but I am not convinced.
Push email is no joke, once you have it and rely on it, and it goes bananas, the harm is real.

Do we know when mail2web is planning on using exchange 2007??

data connection is intermittent

Hi peoples,
I have a curious problem with my data connection.
I'm on T-Mobile and have GPRS set to always connected.
I have push email (via exchange) that works fine and starts receiving emails at 6.30 in the morning (I've set 6.30 to 22.30 as peak time). I also have another email account that if I click Send/Receive connects quite happily and collects my email....but..each morning if I try to use IE to connect to the net, or try to update SPB Weather, or connect to MSN. it tells me that no connection is available. I either have to soft reset, or it will randomly restore itself.
I can't understand why push email works (needs a data connection), my pop3 email will happily connect (needs a data connection), yet IE, MSN or SPB weather wont connect
what do people think of this?

Is receiving emails while in stand-by possible?

I've noticed my TP doesn't receive emails when the phone is in stand-by, even if an automatic send/receive schedule is set. This makes it completely useless to me. I mean, what's the point of automatic send/receive schedule, if the phone will be in stand-by 90 % of the time (or for 2 hours straight)? Is there any way to get notifications of new emails even if the phone is in stand-by?
Thanks

Mine works
U have send and receive every 5 mns

Strange, it does work for me (on a POP account with auto send/receive every hour). E-mails come in at night, for instance. They just don't make the phone come out of standby or turn on the screen, but the white LEDs around the centre button provide a visual notification.
You could edit the notifications (settings -> sounds and notifications -> second tab -> new e-mail) for a more persuasive signal (vibration).

Are you referring to cellulair download or WiFi download? Remember that WiFi is disabled upon entering standby, unless otherwise configured using Advanced Configuration Editor. For cellulair download the right network connection must be selected if WiFi was used before. Are you able to receive emails on the proper automatic schedule if you don't put / allow the device to go into standby?

hotmail also works fine with the setting - update when message received (options set in windows live). In fact hotmail acts as a very good push service for those of you that want delivery of email as it arrives.

Hmm, thats odd. I have two IMAP accounts, and neither update when the device is in stand-by. I'm using 3G data connection to update. I sent myself an email, put the device to stand-by, and waited. Send/receive was scheduled for every 5 mins. After absolutely no activity in about ten minutes, I woke the phone. A little after that I get a sound & popup notifications of a new email. Also, the LED around the centre button start to flash. If I don't allow the phone to enter stand-by, it receives new messages as it should.
Well, at least it should work. I was afraid there for a while that this was a feature rather than a bug. Hopefully it'll get fixed with a ROM update at the latest. I'm using standard 1.90.401.1 WWE at the moment.

this was a problem we had with the kaiser....hopefully we dont have the same problem here...

Well, this is interesting. I turned off HSDPA/HSUPA (I have an upper limit of 384 kbps anyway), and enabled automatic send/receive when roaming. After this the auto s/r works also in stand-by. Good enough for me!

Hm hey guys,
I'm facing the same problem with my Raphael.
I get my emails forwared via MMS from O2 Germany. Problem that I just realized now, I only get them when I turn my phone on.
So if someone sends me an email at night, I get the MMS with it in the morning when my alarm turns on. Isn't too bad but still a little annoying - what can I do?

when device is asleep/standby, no emails or opera web rendering

I recently upgraded to a WM 6.5.1 rom (23504 from 23001). I've noticed that when my device is in standby or sleep, outlook fails to get emails from gmail IMAP. In the past, I would initiate a send/receive and then hit the power button, put my phone in my breast pocket, and return to it later. However this no longer works and I often encounter a synchronization error. Instead, if I leave the phone as is, mail synchronization is fine. Likewise, Opera mobile does not render pages in the background when the phone is in standby/sleep, which is what I used to be able to do.
This is all over 3G/HSDPA network (not wifi, although I did edit the registry to allow wifi to stay connected when the device is put asleep) on an HTC Fuze.
Thoughts. Solutions. Thanks.