Newbie here
After a few calls to various "customer advisors" at O2 I am still less the wiser to how much I'm being charged while logged in/using MSN messenger on my XDA2s......
Anyone able to shed some light on this?
install the gprs monitor on the cd u got with it set it up to monitor the gprs connection and modify it to the correct prices! simple then it will tell u how much is going in and out on GPRS and the cost!
What might be happening is that once you tap to close MSN when you've finished, it doesn't actually close MSN down - it only minimises it. Do you have your GPRS connected a lot of the time? Do you have an autocheck set up on your email which may check for new mail?
As collins says, make sure you have a GPRS monitor program running. Why not set up a test after you've done what you think you should do to end an MSN / GPRS session, make it alert you after only the slightest bit of data has been used. Then check what programs / utilities are running on the phone.
Cheers
Anthony
or hold your finger down on the red end call button untill the conecttion
disconnects then if it trys to restart something in the background is trying to access GPRS
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Hi. I've been using mail2web services for a while. They were great until the last couple of weeks, now their service goes down like a pro.
So.. I started to look at alternatives.
fastmail -- nice account, IMAP.. but for the life of me I couldn't get it to "push" email to my phone. It supposedly supports IDLE, but I couldn't figure this out. Am I missing a setting somewhere? The thing never pushed mail to my phone at all.
1and1.com -- slightly more expensive exchange2003 account. No .CAB for the activesynch settings, they have to be input manually. No problem, until I set "as arrives" in scheduling and it asks me for an SMS gateway. Uh-oh. Im on Softbank and I know nothing about any gateway.
this post:
http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=410683
explains that Exchange works by sending a header SMS to instruct the phone to synch. However, mail2web never asked me for my provider or any SMS gateway.. so if this is how it works how did mail2web do it?
If anyone can shed some light on how to get this working properly, or where to find more technical details on how this stuff works I'd be a lot happier. As it is I'm having to check gmail periodically.
Thanks for your help!
I think your getting mixed up a bit sir, mail2web uses the push feature because it uses your GPRS connection to talk to it. If you ran a netstat program to see what the device is currently connected to you will see an active connection to mobile.exchange.mail2web.com, as soon as an email arrives it signals activsync on your device to synchronise your emails, the device simply tells you that there is an unread message. The connection is always on. If you have GSM signal but no active data connection you wont get your push emails.
The connection is always on but stuff is sent to and fro only when there is a change on one end (for example if you add a new contact.....it will sync with the mail2web server and the new contact will be on there aswell).
and FYI...mail2web has been a bit unreliable lately but its ok at the moment!?
Thanks for the info.
So..... do you have any advice as to how I would set up activesynch the same way to connect to 1and1?
When I set it up it asks me for the gateway, otherwise won't let me choose "when arrives" for scheduling, could this be a setting on my side, or a setting on their servers?
mail2web may be OK now, but for a non-free service 1 whole week of unreliability is enough for me. Who knows how long it'll be up before problems start again.
mrvanx said:
I think your getting mixed up a bit sir, mail2web uses the push feature because it uses your GPRS connection to talk to it. If you ran a netstat program to see what the device is currently connected to you will see an active connection to mobile.exchange.mail2web.com, as soon as an email arrives it signals activsync on your device to synchronise your emails, the device simply tells you that there is an unread message. The connection is always on. If you have GSM signal but no active data connection you wont get your push emails.
The connection is always on but stuff is sent to and fro only when there is a change on one end (for example if you add a new contact.....it will sync with the mail2web server and the new contact will be on there aswell).
and FYI...mail2web has been a bit unreliable lately but its ok at the moment!?
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mail2web seems back to normal service today... Nearly
But yes one week without push... including sometimes when your email just do not even reach your acount and bounce (ie they're just lost...) it's not really what we need
I hope in the future more and more providers will propose Exchange 2007 accounts by default...
I am also a former m2w user. canceled my account in fury after indeed more than three weeks of problems, topped with a week off.
Fortunately my school's email supports ActiveSync so I moved there.
I cannot recommend any particular commercial replacement.
I've heard a few folks using Goodlink, but I am not convinced.
Push email is no joke, once you have it and rely on it, and it goes bananas, the harm is real.
Do we know when mail2web is planning on using exchange 2007??
Hello all,
I use the Outlook to access my mail, via exchange. I have a question about this. I use Direct Push mail with it so I can receive all mails as soon as I get them on the exchange server, but when I delete them on the Polaris, they still remain on the server. Wasn't it supposed to delete it on the server too? Do I need to Send/Receive to delete a msg from the exchange inbox?
Is there a more efficient program or way to use with Exchange servers? Maybe a hidden feature I didn't find?
About the GPRS Connection, I'd like to know if it's normal for the GPRS Connection (with 3G) to be disconnected every time I have a call (ingoing or outgoing), and then it tries to connect after the call. How can I prevent this?
Thanks in advance.
it depends on the way you set up the behaviour of the push mail function.
In your case, I assume the mail will be delete the next time your device will be synchro with the server (so the next time you receive a mail, or the next time you send a mail, or the nexdt time you click on send/receive).
Some times when I have a call, my 3G connection are deactivated, and switch to a classic GPRS connection.. But I never experience a full deconnection during the call.
But assuming you activate the push mail, the connection should be automatically reactivated after your call, so it is not a big issue (we are talking about an interuption of a few seconds).
Hoping this help.
Rgds
ZenG
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it depends on the way you set up the behaviour of the push mail function.
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In my case, it will delete the next time I sync with the server. But is there a way to configure the push mail?
You're right in everything you wrote. It reconnects after I end the call. I just have to be careful not to hit the "End Call" button when it's reconnecting, or it will not connect.
Thanks for the feedback.
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In my case, it will delete the next time I sync with the server. But is there a way to configure the push mail?
You're right in everything you wrote. It reconnects after I end the call. I just have to be careful not to hit the "End Call" button when it's reconnecting, or it will not connect.
Thanks for the feedback.
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unfortunately, I think mail status (delete, unread, read) is not a criteria to force a synchronization. the only criteria to run a "real time" synchro is when you receive a mail or when you send a mail (take a look in the planification options in ActiveSync).
zen_green said:
unfortunately, I think mail status (delete, unread, read) is not a criteria to force a synchronization. the only criteria to run a "real time" synchro is when you receive a mail or when you send a mail (take a look in the planification options in ActiveSync).
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Yes, you're right. Or at least I can't find any other way.
I used to own a Nokia and had the Exchange activated, it would sync all the times. If I deleted a mail on my device, it would sync with the server and delete there too. That's the reason I was asking.
Thanks for the replies, zen.
Hi everyone...
I have a lil problem, at the moment I'm using the NEO ROM for Vox v0.9 [New XIP 20202] and every time when I'm using a Chat application someone calls me it ends the GPRS session. I finish the call and then would like to resume my chat but I then have to log off and back onto the application restarting the GPRS session.
Is there anyway or setting that after a call is finished, the GPRS session will resume without me going and starting it manually every time....?!
Okay, so I did a test and noticed that when you have the following registry setting changed as below....
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
Under SuspendResume, remove the string "~GPRS!" and replace it with "GPRS_bye_if_device_off"
This will keep your VOX from reconnecting the data connection. When changed back to the default "~GPRS!" setting the connection resumes after the call has ended.....
How am I going the get it to auto disconnect when I'm done and resume when being interrupted...?! Without going to the Connection Manager and stop the Data connection manaully....
Any ideas, anyone.....?!
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How am I going the get it to auto disconnect when I'm done and resume when being interrupted...?! Without going to the Connection Manager and stop the Data connection manaully....
Any ideas, anyone.....?!
default "~GPRS!" setting the connection resumes after the call has ended.....
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This is my same issue. I want connection to be automatically restored if it was opened once the call has finished.
Also it would be nice if Outlook could disconnect immediately if had started the connection to do a check mail.
The main issue is battery life... plus recharging every time is quite boring.
Leaving the connection always on would be nice but it is simply not possible as the battery would drain out within 6/8 hours...
Would be nice for skype&fring&whatever even if mobile in standby.
OT...
How does blackberries manage to be always connected and last so long?
Also how does push mail work on bb? I see logs of pop3 stressed mail server by RIM server, is that connected to an IDLE imap on BB? Or is it a conitnuos pop3 send&recieve?
If pop3 (cpu intensive) then my doubt remains, if it is IDLE then we could understand what's with bb lasting so long
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From what I understand the Blackberrys will use IMAP idle but when used with a Blackberry server aren't actually connected continuously. The Blackberry server sends a signal to the phone to indicate there is new mail, the phone then downloads the mail...
If I'm wrong then someone please correct me as messaging isn't really my area of expertise
I recently upgraded to a WM 6.5.1 rom (23504 from 23001). I've noticed that when my device is in standby or sleep, outlook fails to get emails from gmail IMAP. In the past, I would initiate a send/receive and then hit the power button, put my phone in my breast pocket, and return to it later. However this no longer works and I often encounter a synchronization error. Instead, if I leave the phone as is, mail synchronization is fine. Likewise, Opera mobile does not render pages in the background when the phone is in standby/sleep, which is what I used to be able to do.
This is all over 3G/HSDPA network (not wifi, although I did edit the registry to allow wifi to stay connected when the device is put asleep) on an HTC Fuze.
Thoughts. Solutions. Thanks.
Hi, I've not got Exchange.. just gmail.. yeah i've seen some messy hacks to get gmail working as push but my basic question is HOW does push work? does the phone maintain a 3g connection? tcp? udp? sms?
What is the technical flow chart for events that happen when I am sent a 'push email' when my device is sleeping?
Basically, my wish is for my phone to push only emails where sender is on a whitelist (where the sender is on a outlook contact on my phone only).. without much data charges. I'm thinking a sms trigger would wake my phone with screen still off to download the 1 email over 3g then beep loudly like i got a txt.
I'm on wm 6.5.3 / htc touch 3g / orange uk
( btw i am thinking of writing my own system .. 'poor mans push' )