Ok any hints or ansewers would be greatly appreciated! How do you guys get the newest versions of CE into your roms?
I am thinking you just get the official roms and use kaiser kitchen to extract them correct? Well so far ive tried the almost official winmo 6.1 rom for at&t, ive tried ddk.05, ive also tried laurentius v9. Everytime i extract these roms all the folders OEM, SYS, and ROM are pretty much empty?! I'm not look'in to rip people off i just want to get a base version of ce wich is compatible with radio 1.65.20.29. The roms in alex's kit 3.03 and 3.02 have alot of issues with the 1.65 radios.
Ive tried everything i can think of, am i acually maybe suppose to dump the rom off the device then rebuild it? Instead of trying to extract from the .nbh?
I mean im assuming all these 3.55 roms were mogul roms at one point right? and they just copied all tytan 2 drivers over?
I also really like ddk.05 i just don't think the page pool is big enough it seems to me whenever i run the page pool tool nothing happens. I select the rom then i click the size then change too and close. But the device always reports the same amount of free memory no matter what i set the page pool too. I like i a huge page pool because i play PocketQuake and it helps speed it up. Going from 18 to 32mb page pool sped quake up 2fps. I dont usually have alot off apps open either.
Problem is that you are trying to cook a ROM from a cooked ROM. Meaning you are taking ROMS like ddk.05 which is already cooked from the member.
Alot of members are using different tools then KaiserKitchen in order to cook their roms which in turn means there will not be any .rgu's or files in many folders.
Your best bet is trying to cook a rom based off of the ATT 19213 version...just type ATT 19213 in search and look for the rom. it should be around 118mb when downloaded and extracted.
Thank you! ill do a search around for that, but im still wondering where they get these new builds of ce, do they just dump them from devices?
Oh shoot i just realized http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391708 is the build your talking about. I already downladed that and then tried to extract it with the kitchen and it was completely empty.
My XDA Live 3 Rom is based on the at&t 19213 Rom and it has the RGU files intact.
As for getting the updated OS, yes they are taking OEM Diamond Roms and extracting the files from there.
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Well hardly cooking... All I want to be able to do is to take a base ROM that I like (core 2.0n vanilla or perhaps mfrazz's 1.7) and add the programs that I always install anyway. i figure this will make a hard reset easier if needed and give me a little more memory.
Okay... so I downloaded anchillius's rom kitchen and was able to follow all the directions he provided. I used his core 2.0n, which I have been running for a while but unless I am mistaken installing what I produced would basically be the same thing as installing it directly since it is vanilla anyway, right?
anyway I have a few questions...
1. If I dump a ROM like mfrazz's crossbow 1.7 and install that as is, will the reg tweaks that he made still be there?
2. Is there a readily available step by step on how to add programs. I tried google search and couldn't find anything. I know I am being lazy here but hoping that someone will help a brotha out! that and I am really quite busy at work (but not to busy to not be messing with my phone!)
I'm pretty sure that all the reg changes are the same, I cooked Crossbow 1.7 a little, and nothing changed (that I noticed).
And when u say programs, do u mean by cooking the programs into the ROM with cabs, cuz in this tutorial there is a way on how to install programs by cabs
P.S. While were talking about programs, how do I get the settings for a programs that have to register into a package of my cooked ROM? Is it something in the reg entries on my phone? If so, how do I find out what and how do I get it off of my phone and into the package?
Recently I download a few tools from here and follow the introduce I tried to cook my first Kaiser ROM, although every thing got all right a lucky greenhand failed to brick his Kaiser, my new rom tell me "NO BLUETOOTH DEVICE DETECTED", I checked files "BlueTooth" and "BlueTooth_Lang_0804" and even replaced it with same files from other rom but it just simply do not work...
I'll be greatful if somebody can spare his time to help me.
BTW, I'm using 20273 Main OS.
BTW2, Please, make your words foreigner friendly.
Thanks all the same.
Why my post can't be seen from the list?
Where did the OEM part of your kitchen come from?
You can get a ready made 20270 kaiser kitchen from ppckitchen.org. Updating that to 20273 is trivial, or you can wait for ppckitchen.org to release it. Not much noticeable difference between 20273 and 20270, however.
A chinese Kaiser form, the developer just said his OEM was not well modified. So I'll have to wait...
Thanks for your attention.
If anyone got problem with thier message sending and receiving
here a fix
THANK for this
Could this fix when Gmail just decides to stop sending all of a sudden? I know that this happens frequently for me and for my g/f's mom (who owns a Samsung Blackjack II).
Jason
myrandex said:
Could this fix when Gmail just decides to stop sending all of a sudden? I know that this happens frequently for me and for my g/f's mom (who owns a Samsung Blackjack II).
Jason
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yes it does...more details:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958639
myrandex said:
Could this fix when Gmail just decides to stop sending all of a sudden? I know that this happens frequently for me and for my g/f's mom (who owns a Samsung Blackjack II).
Jason
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it sure does
THANKS for this!!! Note to Chefs: can we get this cooked in, perhaps?
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THANKS for this!!! Note to Chefs: can we get this cooked in, perhaps?
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This would be good and on a side issue it could help us (me...) understand how the remodule thing works if the experienced chefs (or at least the ones who now how to remodule stuff?) showed us how to remodule a .dll. The original 'mailtrns.dll' dumped from an official ROM is moduled, this hotfix is just a file so I would be really grateful of an explanation on how to rework this file into a module for cooking into a ROM.
Andy
Re-worked new 'mailtrns.dll' into ROM and re-moduled it....
I currently use Alex's Kitchen (V5) to cook my ROMs and it has been excellent. I dumped the original official HTC 5.2.19212 ROM and use this as a base. As I said I wanted to cook this MS update into my ROM but remodule the new 'mailtrns.dll' file (and obviously just overwriting the mail-providers.mxl file).
I attempted to use the 'package-creator-v2.7' tool which converts the .cab to an OEM and gives you the option to remodule .exe, .dll and .mui files which it did. However just relpacing the files in the \SYS\BaseApps folder didn't work. So I had another search on the whole module thing and still couldn't find any tutorials I could understand, but I did find some posts on the BuildOS and PkgTools. I noticed in the 'PkgToolsBuildos-4.3b1.exe' there is the option to Remodule Packages. So as an experiment I deleted the original 'mailtrns.dll' folder (module) and 'Mail-Providers.xml' file from the \SYS\BaseApps folder and copied in the replacement files 'mailtrns.dll' and 'Mail-Providers.xml'. I then used the 'PkgToolsBuildos-4.3b1.exe' to remodule the files in this folder and then used the older tools and batch files (buildos+package_tools-2.7.exe) to create a new ROM - and it all works
I have since used the same technique to remodule other packags and again they are all working. I still don't know why or how, or what the benefits of modules over files in the packages are, however I seem to recall modules were better due to how memory is allocated or something
If anyone wants to explain all this or post a link to somewhere that does I would be grateful.
The short version is I have re-worked this update into my kitchen based on the official HTC 5.2.19212 ROM and have remoduled it like the original file (mailtrns.dll) it replaces.
Andy
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ron999 said:
If anyone got problem with thier message sending and receiving
here a fix
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I tried to install this fix on CE OS 5.2.20757 (Build 20757.1.4.0) what I believe is HyperDragon_III_BlackStone_WWE_20081203
Setup Error:
This update cannot be installed on this version of Windows Mobile.
Current: 6.1 AKU 1.4.0.0
Build 20273 Platform 2
Any ideas?
Rip Torn said:
I tried to install this fix on CE OS 5.2.20757 (Build 20757.1.4.0) what I believe is HyperDragon_III_BlackStone_WWE_20081203
Setup Error:
This update cannot be installed on this version of Windows Mobile.
Current: 6.1 AKU 1.4.0.0
Build 20273 Platform 2
Any ideas?
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very interesting but this is the latest release version 1
but like I say mine running well rom base 334 721.2
you maybe missing some file or something
hope this helps
What is ROM?
1. Can you explain it with repect to PocketPC like HTC?
2. What is meant by Flashing a ROM?
Thanks
lamborg said:
What is ROM?
1. Can you explain it with repect to PocketPC like HTC?
2. What is meant by Flashing a ROM?
Thanks
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Welcome to the forum
ROM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROM_image
Flashing means to install a ROM in your device, is like changing form XP to Vista in a computer
READ the Wiki and enjoy!
orb3000 said:
Welcome to the forum
ROM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROM_image
Flashing means to install a ROM in your device, is like changing form XP to Vista in a computer
READ the Wiki and enjoy!
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hmm, thats like a ROM chip.
Users are talking about 'cook' a ROM or something, like add or upgrade a new ROM.
So, what does that actually do and why we(users) wish to do?
Does that changes the theme/skin ONLY, or like upgrades the whole device like from XP to Vista?
Does adding ROM means converting WM6 to WM6.1 or something, if so then will WM6.1 be able to run games of WM6.0?
THanks
lamborg said:
hmm, thats like a ROM chip.
Users are talking about 'cook' a ROM or something, like add or upgrade a new ROM.
So, what does that actually do and why we(users) wish to do?
Does that changes the theme/skin ONLY, or like upgrades the whole device like from XP to Vista?
Does adding ROM means converting WM6 to WM6.1 or something, if so then will WM6.1 be able to run games of WM6.0?
THanks
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The ROM is a section of Read only Memory on the NAND chip that can be only updated by flashing it.
The ROM image (nowadays a NBH file) can contain the whole OS, the radio (FW for cell chip), SPL (bootloader) and/or splash screen.
On this site referring to a "ROM" is normally just taking about the OS part. A Cooked ROM is a modifed OS that has extra stuff added or taken away.
So yes, a OS ROM image can update the whole OS from WM6.0 to 6.1 or even 6.5. Whether or not the games works depends on the game, most 6.0 stuff should be forward compatable
Hope this helps
Dave
DaveShaw said:
The ROM is a section of Read only Memory on the NAND chip that can be only updated by flashing it.
The ROM image (nowadays a NBH file) can contain the whole OS, the radio (FW for cell chip), SPL (bootloader) and/or splash screen.
On this site referring to a "ROM" is normally just taking about the OS part. A Cooked ROM is a modifed OS that has extra stuff added or taken away.
So yes, a OS ROM image can update the whole OS from WM6.0 to 6.1 or even 6.5. Whether or not the games works depends on the game, most 6.0 stuff should be forward compatable
Hope this helps
Dave
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Thanks!! I got it all...
I am a noob .... Just trying to get up to speed, so to help me understand this stuff, I have 2 questions.
1. Should i be able to extract an official T-mo wing ROM ...... and then be able to cook it to produce an identical/ almost identical rom to the t-mo stock? I understand there is no point in doing that..... but it helps me understand it better if I know this answer..... plus I was wanting to do that first as a benchmark .... so that I at least know I am doing everything right ... then start making changes from there.
Maybe a simple alternative question, the t-mobile stock rom has t-mobile specific OEM content (my faves for example) in it..... how would you go about extracting then baking that into a custom rom? Is that even possible?
2. when you flash to a signed Rom image nbh file ... What is it replacing (ipl, spl, OS, splash, radio, xip, imgfs)?? all of those things or just certain ones? Do different nbh files replace different compenants or is it consistant to where an nbh file always replaces the same thing?
I see in some of the kitchens... you can bake in your own radio, splash screen, etc... which got mo to thinking .... what will be different with the rom between baking one of those in vs not? It seems like it is optional.
Thanks
i would like a answer to this question myself...im only interested in the part about tweaking the original stock rom..can we beef it up at all?..change the pagepools..ect?
Originally quoted from JPick:
Just trying to get up to speed, so to help me understand this stuff, I have 2 questions.
1. Should i be able to extract an official T-mo wing ROM ...... and then be able to cook it to produce an identical/ almost identical rom to the t-mo stock? I understand there is no point in doing that..... but it helps me understand it better if I know this answer..... plus I was wanting to do that first as a benchmark .... so that I at least know I am doing everything right ... then start making changes from there.
HERE is a kitchen with the only two updates from tmobile, that are considered "stock ROMs;" cook with this kitchen to make a ROM that is with the WM 6.1 builds. This will show you what is involved in cooking a ROM that only has stock - OEM - packages. Also, don't forget to use 'LZX Compression.'
You can find the kitchen that I use HERE. The 23563 build is what I use (for reference). Use this kitchen from my guide to build a ROM with the latest build.
Maybe a simple alternative question, the t-mobile stock rom has t-mobile specific OEM content (my faves for example) in it..... how would you go about extracting then baking that into a custom rom? Is that even possible?
You may be able to extract certain packages from the stock/update 6.1 ROM that you may be able to use in cooking a 6.5 ROM.
2. when you flash to a signed Rom image nbh file ... What is it replacing (ipl, spl, OS, splash, radio, xip, imgfs)?? all of those things or just certain ones? Do different nbh files replace different compenants or is it consistant to where an nbh file always replaces the same thing?
Everything that you'd find in a true/stock update ROM you'll find in a cooked ROM.
I see in some of the kitchens... you can bake in your own radio, splash screen, etc... which got mo to thinking .... what will be different with the rom between baking one of those in vs not? It seems like it is optional.
Unfortunately, I don't use that kind of kitchen. I feel it makes my ROMs a little bit more 'bulky;' my ROMs seem to not compress as well with the newer kitchens, therefore, I don't use these options you're talking about. So, I apologize, I don't really know the answer to this.
Thanks
You're Welcome
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would like a answer to this question myself...im only interested in the part about tweaking the original stock rom..can we beef it up at all?..change the pagepools..ect?[/QUOTE]
Yes, you can change the pagepool.