I am a noob .... Just trying to get up to speed, so to help me understand this stuff, I have 2 questions.
1. Should i be able to extract an official T-mo wing ROM ...... and then be able to cook it to produce an identical/ almost identical rom to the t-mo stock? I understand there is no point in doing that..... but it helps me understand it better if I know this answer..... plus I was wanting to do that first as a benchmark .... so that I at least know I am doing everything right ... then start making changes from there.
Maybe a simple alternative question, the t-mobile stock rom has t-mobile specific OEM content (my faves for example) in it..... how would you go about extracting then baking that into a custom rom? Is that even possible?
2. when you flash to a signed Rom image nbh file ... What is it replacing (ipl, spl, OS, splash, radio, xip, imgfs)?? all of those things or just certain ones? Do different nbh files replace different compenants or is it consistant to where an nbh file always replaces the same thing?
I see in some of the kitchens... you can bake in your own radio, splash screen, etc... which got mo to thinking .... what will be different with the rom between baking one of those in vs not? It seems like it is optional.
Thanks
i would like a answer to this question myself...im only interested in the part about tweaking the original stock rom..can we beef it up at all?..change the pagepools..ect?
Originally quoted from JPick:
Just trying to get up to speed, so to help me understand this stuff, I have 2 questions.
1. Should i be able to extract an official T-mo wing ROM ...... and then be able to cook it to produce an identical/ almost identical rom to the t-mo stock? I understand there is no point in doing that..... but it helps me understand it better if I know this answer..... plus I was wanting to do that first as a benchmark .... so that I at least know I am doing everything right ... then start making changes from there.
HERE is a kitchen with the only two updates from tmobile, that are considered "stock ROMs;" cook with this kitchen to make a ROM that is with the WM 6.1 builds. This will show you what is involved in cooking a ROM that only has stock - OEM - packages. Also, don't forget to use 'LZX Compression.'
You can find the kitchen that I use HERE. The 23563 build is what I use (for reference). Use this kitchen from my guide to build a ROM with the latest build.
Maybe a simple alternative question, the t-mobile stock rom has t-mobile specific OEM content (my faves for example) in it..... how would you go about extracting then baking that into a custom rom? Is that even possible?
You may be able to extract certain packages from the stock/update 6.1 ROM that you may be able to use in cooking a 6.5 ROM.
2. when you flash to a signed Rom image nbh file ... What is it replacing (ipl, spl, OS, splash, radio, xip, imgfs)?? all of those things or just certain ones? Do different nbh files replace different compenants or is it consistant to where an nbh file always replaces the same thing?
Everything that you'd find in a true/stock update ROM you'll find in a cooked ROM.
I see in some of the kitchens... you can bake in your own radio, splash screen, etc... which got mo to thinking .... what will be different with the rom between baking one of those in vs not? It seems like it is optional.
Unfortunately, I don't use that kind of kitchen. I feel it makes my ROMs a little bit more 'bulky;' my ROMs seem to not compress as well with the newer kitchens, therefore, I don't use these options you're talking about. So, I apologize, I don't really know the answer to this.
Thanks
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Originally quoted from idunnoV2i:
would like a answer to this question myself...im only interested in the part about tweaking the original stock rom..can we beef it up at all?..change the pagepools..ect?[/QUOTE]
Yes, you can change the pagepool.
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Well hardly cooking... All I want to be able to do is to take a base ROM that I like (core 2.0n vanilla or perhaps mfrazz's 1.7) and add the programs that I always install anyway. i figure this will make a hard reset easier if needed and give me a little more memory.
Okay... so I downloaded anchillius's rom kitchen and was able to follow all the directions he provided. I used his core 2.0n, which I have been running for a while but unless I am mistaken installing what I produced would basically be the same thing as installing it directly since it is vanilla anyway, right?
anyway I have a few questions...
1. If I dump a ROM like mfrazz's crossbow 1.7 and install that as is, will the reg tweaks that he made still be there?
2. Is there a readily available step by step on how to add programs. I tried google search and couldn't find anything. I know I am being lazy here but hoping that someone will help a brotha out! that and I am really quite busy at work (but not to busy to not be messing with my phone!)
I'm pretty sure that all the reg changes are the same, I cooked Crossbow 1.7 a little, and nothing changed (that I noticed).
And when u say programs, do u mean by cooking the programs into the ROM with cabs, cuz in this tutorial there is a way on how to install programs by cabs
P.S. While were talking about programs, how do I get the settings for a programs that have to register into a package of my cooked ROM? Is it something in the reg entries on my phone? If so, how do I find out what and how do I get it off of my phone and into the package?
Hi, I have 3 questions:
1) I've looked around a lot, but can't seem to catch hold of a chinese language for my vox...Its called Dopod rom right?? Where can I get the files and instructions??
2) Does a ROM (when dumped) contain absolutely everything that is on the phone and if flashed on another phone will be a "duplicate" of original phone??
3) I've found the wiki on how to dump my rom, but how would I be able to re-flash it onto another phone??
Thanks guys
Wow somebody who actually read the Wiki before posting - nice
1.It's on the ftp. But look at the stuff that is written in the Wiki, about no Wifi and so on.
2.Nope it isn't it's only the operating system and all the software that comes with it! So no contacts or appointments or other files you put on. When you do a hard reset, you would see what all comes with the ROM! (but don't do it, it'll wipe all your data)!
3.You would have to put it into the kitchen and try to cook a new ROM out of the dump, but look around on the ftp first, there are a lot of shipped ROMs, yours is probably there too!
I can't seem to locate the Dopod wiki... But are there ANY ROMs that can handle chinese text without sacrificing the wifi function??
In terms of the shipped ROMs folder - I couldnt find my one and besides, I'd like to have one with all my programs on. So where can I find easy to follow (I'm a newbie on all this) instructions on cooking and creating a ROM??
(Is this thread the right one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066 ) ???
Thanks for your help
HI All,
My humble apologies if whatever I am asking is already present in some way another. I tried to search for it but I was not able to find the answer. It may be my own imbecility but oh well so here it goes.
What I am trying to find out is that is it possible to image a rom. Like on a normal computer once I have my os installed and all the other apps/tweaks I can do a ghost image of it and reflash it to my computer whenever I want and all my apps/tweaks are there.
Because I love flashing new roms (almost everyday) but I have a favorite rom that I install all my apps/tweaks to. So is it possible for me to like flash a rom and customize everything on it and then take an image of it. So after I've testing let's say Dutty's new Rom and I wana go back to my old rom without having to install all the apps/crap again I can just flash the image that I've created.
Once again my humble apologies if I am asking a question that was already answered or if this is not worth asking. I know how everyone at the forum likes to keep things organized and stuff. I just don't want to piss anyone off because I know sometimes people ask some really stupid questions.
Well, there are the stickies on them, and Alex's guide in the wiki on kaiser rom cooking. Its called rom cooking .
shazaani said:
HI All,
My humble apologies if whatever I am asking is already present in some way another. I tried to search for it but I was not able to find the answer. It may be my own imbecility but oh well so here it goes.
What I am trying to find out is that is it possible to image a rom. Like on a normal computer once I have my os installed and all the other apps/tweaks I can do a ghost image of it and reflash it to my computer whenever I want and all my apps/tweaks are there.
Because I love flashing new roms (almost everyday) but I have a favorite rom that I install all my apps/tweaks to. So is it possible for me to like flash a rom and customize everything on it and then take an image of it. So after I've testing let's say Dutty's new Rom and I wana go back to my old rom without having to install all the apps/crap again I can just flash the image that I've created.
Once again my humble apologies if I am asking a question that was already answered or if this is not worth asking. I know how everyone at the forum likes to keep things organized and stuff. I just don't want to piss anyone off because I know sometimes people ask some really stupid questions.
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Take a look at "SPB Clone" ... most people are going the SPB backup or Sprite Backup route...
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/clone/?en
I've been using SPB Clone v1.5.7 and it is exactly like GHOST.
...they are up to version 1.5.9 now
There's also Sprite Clone out there...
backup & clone are 2 different things ... most would argue on that point though ... but for those of us that use Ghost or Acronis TrueImage knows better
one important note:
clone image only works on the same ROM though ... so for instance ... you have a customized image on ROM #1 ... and now you have ROM #2 on your device ...etc ( or WM5 vs WM6.0 vs WM6.1 ...etc )
you MUST reflash your device back to ROM #1 before re-cloning that custom image !!!
it's like you have XP and then custom tweaked & then cloning it ... and went on to install Vista ... technically, you can reclone the image ( provided that you choose the option to format the HD 1st and PocketPC doesn't have that option...etc ) ... but if you didn't ... you would have to have XP back on it before you re-clone ...etc
Happy cloning !!!
UnicornKaz .... very well put.
I tried to explain this several times the say way & people just don't get it, there's a difference .... a BIG difference.
Just to add, SPB Clone has a $299 price tag on it!
Is it worth the $ .... It depends on your usage. It does work, very well.
Ok any hints or ansewers would be greatly appreciated! How do you guys get the newest versions of CE into your roms?
I am thinking you just get the official roms and use kaiser kitchen to extract them correct? Well so far ive tried the almost official winmo 6.1 rom for at&t, ive tried ddk.05, ive also tried laurentius v9. Everytime i extract these roms all the folders OEM, SYS, and ROM are pretty much empty?! I'm not look'in to rip people off i just want to get a base version of ce wich is compatible with radio 1.65.20.29. The roms in alex's kit 3.03 and 3.02 have alot of issues with the 1.65 radios.
Ive tried everything i can think of, am i acually maybe suppose to dump the rom off the device then rebuild it? Instead of trying to extract from the .nbh?
I mean im assuming all these 3.55 roms were mogul roms at one point right? and they just copied all tytan 2 drivers over?
I also really like ddk.05 i just don't think the page pool is big enough it seems to me whenever i run the page pool tool nothing happens. I select the rom then i click the size then change too and close. But the device always reports the same amount of free memory no matter what i set the page pool too. I like i a huge page pool because i play PocketQuake and it helps speed it up. Going from 18 to 32mb page pool sped quake up 2fps. I dont usually have alot off apps open either.
Problem is that you are trying to cook a ROM from a cooked ROM. Meaning you are taking ROMS like ddk.05 which is already cooked from the member.
Alot of members are using different tools then KaiserKitchen in order to cook their roms which in turn means there will not be any .rgu's or files in many folders.
Your best bet is trying to cook a rom based off of the ATT 19213 version...just type ATT 19213 in search and look for the rom. it should be around 118mb when downloaded and extracted.
Thank you! ill do a search around for that, but im still wondering where they get these new builds of ce, do they just dump them from devices?
Oh shoot i just realized http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391708 is the build your talking about. I already downladed that and then tried to extract it with the kitchen and it was completely empty.
My XDA Live 3 Rom is based on the at&t 19213 Rom and it has the RGU files intact.
As for getting the updated OS, yes they are taking OEM Diamond Roms and extracting the files from there.
Is there any utility that i can use to create a re-load-able ROM, before i start experimenting with my own custom ROMs?
Of all the stuff i've read here, and else where, i have a pretty good idea of the how to, to create my own ROMs, as i did back then with the Palm OS devices.
the only thing i've not been able to find much of, is a good way to backup the current ROM, into a re-usable file that can be uploaded again.
my current ROM is 3.27 from factory.
All the stuff i've read was about dumping a RAW ROM, with the only purpose to pick and dissect the files and software from it, rather than having a good backup.
So, can anyone point me into the right direction to save a good copy of the ROMs i like?
Thanks
Am I right to assume that at present if we flash a new ROM on to our x7510's (after flashing hard SPL of course) then we loose the ability to go back to the factory ROM if we so wish?
I agree with AllGamer, we need to backup the original ROM from our devices before doing any flashing.
Plus, sometimes, the dumped ROMs will not include some very specific files, so I guess, somhow, each ROM - again Somehow - Device dependent.
So I wish to backup mine not use a dumped one.
Have anyone found anything useful, or good method to do this yet?
There are so much windows bundled crap, that i want to remove.... yet i can't unless i know i can revert back safely to factory state.