HI All,
My humble apologies if whatever I am asking is already present in some way another. I tried to search for it but I was not able to find the answer. It may be my own imbecility but oh well so here it goes.
What I am trying to find out is that is it possible to image a rom. Like on a normal computer once I have my os installed and all the other apps/tweaks I can do a ghost image of it and reflash it to my computer whenever I want and all my apps/tweaks are there.
Because I love flashing new roms (almost everyday) but I have a favorite rom that I install all my apps/tweaks to. So is it possible for me to like flash a rom and customize everything on it and then take an image of it. So after I've testing let's say Dutty's new Rom and I wana go back to my old rom without having to install all the apps/crap again I can just flash the image that I've created.
Once again my humble apologies if I am asking a question that was already answered or if this is not worth asking. I know how everyone at the forum likes to keep things organized and stuff. I just don't want to piss anyone off because I know sometimes people ask some really stupid questions.
Well, there are the stickies on them, and Alex's guide in the wiki on kaiser rom cooking. Its called rom cooking .
shazaani said:
HI All,
My humble apologies if whatever I am asking is already present in some way another. I tried to search for it but I was not able to find the answer. It may be my own imbecility but oh well so here it goes.
What I am trying to find out is that is it possible to image a rom. Like on a normal computer once I have my os installed and all the other apps/tweaks I can do a ghost image of it and reflash it to my computer whenever I want and all my apps/tweaks are there.
Because I love flashing new roms (almost everyday) but I have a favorite rom that I install all my apps/tweaks to. So is it possible for me to like flash a rom and customize everything on it and then take an image of it. So after I've testing let's say Dutty's new Rom and I wana go back to my old rom without having to install all the apps/crap again I can just flash the image that I've created.
Once again my humble apologies if I am asking a question that was already answered or if this is not worth asking. I know how everyone at the forum likes to keep things organized and stuff. I just don't want to piss anyone off because I know sometimes people ask some really stupid questions.
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Take a look at "SPB Clone" ... most people are going the SPB backup or Sprite Backup route...
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/clone/?en
I've been using SPB Clone v1.5.7 and it is exactly like GHOST.
...they are up to version 1.5.9 now
There's also Sprite Clone out there...
backup & clone are 2 different things ... most would argue on that point though ... but for those of us that use Ghost or Acronis TrueImage knows better
one important note:
clone image only works on the same ROM though ... so for instance ... you have a customized image on ROM #1 ... and now you have ROM #2 on your device ...etc ( or WM5 vs WM6.0 vs WM6.1 ...etc )
you MUST reflash your device back to ROM #1 before re-cloning that custom image !!!
it's like you have XP and then custom tweaked & then cloning it ... and went on to install Vista ... technically, you can reclone the image ( provided that you choose the option to format the HD 1st and PocketPC doesn't have that option...etc ) ... but if you didn't ... you would have to have XP back on it before you re-clone ...etc
Happy cloning !!!
UnicornKaz .... very well put.
I tried to explain this several times the say way & people just don't get it, there's a difference .... a BIG difference.
Just to add, SPB Clone has a $299 price tag on it!
Is it worth the $ .... It depends on your usage. It does work, very well.
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Hi, I have 3 questions:
1) I've looked around a lot, but can't seem to catch hold of a chinese language for my vox...Its called Dopod rom right?? Where can I get the files and instructions??
2) Does a ROM (when dumped) contain absolutely everything that is on the phone and if flashed on another phone will be a "duplicate" of original phone??
3) I've found the wiki on how to dump my rom, but how would I be able to re-flash it onto another phone??
Thanks guys
Wow somebody who actually read the Wiki before posting - nice
1.It's on the ftp. But look at the stuff that is written in the Wiki, about no Wifi and so on.
2.Nope it isn't it's only the operating system and all the software that comes with it! So no contacts or appointments or other files you put on. When you do a hard reset, you would see what all comes with the ROM! (but don't do it, it'll wipe all your data)!
3.You would have to put it into the kitchen and try to cook a new ROM out of the dump, but look around on the ftp first, there are a lot of shipped ROMs, yours is probably there too!
I can't seem to locate the Dopod wiki... But are there ANY ROMs that can handle chinese text without sacrificing the wifi function??
In terms of the shipped ROMs folder - I couldnt find my one and besides, I'd like to have one with all my programs on. So where can I find easy to follow (I'm a newbie on all this) instructions on cooking and creating a ROM??
(Is this thread the right one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066 ) ???
Thanks for your help
Hey, I'm going to try to make my own rom.
Instead of trying to recook other people's rom, (which always fail at cooking)
i'll just try to make my own from scratch.
Custom roms have so many programs i never heard of and will never use.
I just annoys me seeing them.
anyway, have a few questions.
I'm currently following this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303195
if i want to remove Windows live, do I just take out these folders?
WindowsLive_DPI_96
WindowsLive
and where do people find all these registry cabs, and how come other builders don't share them?
I know theres a list of apps on the link, but they're not updated and not as complete.
also, I think that rom comes with Cnet2, how can i get the new Cnet3?
Also, Say i put Flash 7 in the oem folder, and next week flash 8 comes out, do I just install flash 8 and it will update it in my phone?
or do I need to recook, since you can't uninstall OEM stuff.
Why doesn't the FTP work? i tried xdaupload/xdaupload.
Thanks!
I've asked this question here before, and it seems it couldn't be done, and now it seems it can.
I wanted to be able to clone my device to an image file, and restore from the image file.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/store...-HMP-IconLink&utm_campaign=Clone-HMP-IconLink
It's just a shame sprite doesn't sell this as a single user licence.
This would be awesome for us addicted flashers. I know the one thing I hate doing is re-installing all my apps after, testing a rom and deciding it wasn't for me and want to go back to the way it was exactly before.
THE-KEK said:
I've asked this question here before, and it seems it couldn't be done, and now it seems it can.
I wanted to be able to clone my device to an image file, and restore from the image file.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/store...-HMP-IconLink&utm_campaign=Clone-HMP-IconLink
It's just a shame sprite doesn't sell this as a single user licence.
This would be awesome for us addicted flashers. I know the one thing I hate doing is re-installing all my apps after, testing a rom and deciding it wasn't for me and want to go back to the way it was exactly before.
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I dont understand why everyone fusses about flashing a rom anymore and setting up their apps now that UC is here. I literally have 51 (I just counted) apps I installed on my latest rom and it takes me no more than 10-20 minutes and I'm up and running. Does noone use UC? WTH?
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I dont understand why everyone fusses about flashing a rom anymore and setting up their apps now that UC is here. I literally have 51 (I just counted) apps I installed on my latest rom and it takes me no more than 10-20 minutes and I'm up and running. Does noone use UC? WTH?
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UC requires one to be a bit more technical with xml programming. There is nothing wrong with a simple backup/restore. In fact, backup/restore requires no technical knowledge at all. OP is looking to go back to exactly what he had before (no new ROM; yes, he has to flash the old ROM back), so restore works very well for him.
I really like UC I only wish I had the time to invest to setup a xml file for my settings.
I really liked setting savor as it did all the cabs as well as my personal settings all by setting up the phone once and pushing 1 button to backup.
At risk of getting Flamed for asking an obvious question, can anyone direct me to a thread on configuring UC. I am keen to implement it on my latest UC compatible Dutty's rom but am unable to find the relevant info.
I have tried using the search tool, but unfortunately UC is too short and I'm not sure what the acronym stands for!
I also tried Skunkygwen's "G iving W ise E ducational N oob I nstructions" sticky, but I couldn't see anything there either.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Rich
ClownShoes said:
At risk of getting Flamed for asking an obvious question, can anyone direct me to a thread on configuring UC. I am keen to implement it on my latest UC compatible Dutty's rom but am unable to find the relevant info.
I have tried using the search tool, but unfortunately UC is too short and I'm not sure what the acronym stands for!
I also tried Skunkygwen's "G iving W ise E ducational N oob I nstructions" sticky, but I couldn't see anything there either.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Rich
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337 (Development/Hacking section of this forum)
Thanks for the swift response.
"User Customization" should have guessed really
Cheers
Rich
I am a noob .... Just trying to get up to speed, so to help me understand this stuff, I have 2 questions.
1. Should i be able to extract an official T-mo wing ROM ...... and then be able to cook it to produce an identical/ almost identical rom to the t-mo stock? I understand there is no point in doing that..... but it helps me understand it better if I know this answer..... plus I was wanting to do that first as a benchmark .... so that I at least know I am doing everything right ... then start making changes from there.
Maybe a simple alternative question, the t-mobile stock rom has t-mobile specific OEM content (my faves for example) in it..... how would you go about extracting then baking that into a custom rom? Is that even possible?
2. when you flash to a signed Rom image nbh file ... What is it replacing (ipl, spl, OS, splash, radio, xip, imgfs)?? all of those things or just certain ones? Do different nbh files replace different compenants or is it consistant to where an nbh file always replaces the same thing?
I see in some of the kitchens... you can bake in your own radio, splash screen, etc... which got mo to thinking .... what will be different with the rom between baking one of those in vs not? It seems like it is optional.
Thanks
i would like a answer to this question myself...im only interested in the part about tweaking the original stock rom..can we beef it up at all?..change the pagepools..ect?
Originally quoted from JPick:
Just trying to get up to speed, so to help me understand this stuff, I have 2 questions.
1. Should i be able to extract an official T-mo wing ROM ...... and then be able to cook it to produce an identical/ almost identical rom to the t-mo stock? I understand there is no point in doing that..... but it helps me understand it better if I know this answer..... plus I was wanting to do that first as a benchmark .... so that I at least know I am doing everything right ... then start making changes from there.
HERE is a kitchen with the only two updates from tmobile, that are considered "stock ROMs;" cook with this kitchen to make a ROM that is with the WM 6.1 builds. This will show you what is involved in cooking a ROM that only has stock - OEM - packages. Also, don't forget to use 'LZX Compression.'
You can find the kitchen that I use HERE. The 23563 build is what I use (for reference). Use this kitchen from my guide to build a ROM with the latest build.
Maybe a simple alternative question, the t-mobile stock rom has t-mobile specific OEM content (my faves for example) in it..... how would you go about extracting then baking that into a custom rom? Is that even possible?
You may be able to extract certain packages from the stock/update 6.1 ROM that you may be able to use in cooking a 6.5 ROM.
2. when you flash to a signed Rom image nbh file ... What is it replacing (ipl, spl, OS, splash, radio, xip, imgfs)?? all of those things or just certain ones? Do different nbh files replace different compenants or is it consistant to where an nbh file always replaces the same thing?
Everything that you'd find in a true/stock update ROM you'll find in a cooked ROM.
I see in some of the kitchens... you can bake in your own radio, splash screen, etc... which got mo to thinking .... what will be different with the rom between baking one of those in vs not? It seems like it is optional.
Unfortunately, I don't use that kind of kitchen. I feel it makes my ROMs a little bit more 'bulky;' my ROMs seem to not compress as well with the newer kitchens, therefore, I don't use these options you're talking about. So, I apologize, I don't really know the answer to this.
Thanks
You're Welcome
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would like a answer to this question myself...im only interested in the part about tweaking the original stock rom..can we beef it up at all?..change the pagepools..ect?[/QUOTE]
Yes, you can change the pagepool.
hi guys, i just brought od3 today and planning to do a lots of thing . i read a lot from xda-developers but never try it out even once . how here i have few questions and requests .
1.i heard about making backup, installing better rom and i heard about Cyanogenmod and modaco rom . how do i really start to install rom from zero ? any complete link ?
2. if i install rom , and flash it.do all data including phone contact, message and application gone ?
3. i noticed few hacking threads which are link1 , link2 and link3
which one i start first ? does setting will be gone when i flash with new rom ?
4.can anybody give guide for me to create android environment in Ubuntu linux ?
5.what is the best GPS application ?
6.what is different applying rom and theme ? please give full guide link for me to change my theme .
thank you so much
crownclown said:
hi guys, i just brought od3 today and planning to do a lots of thing . i read a lot from xda-developers but never try it out even once . how here i have few questions and requests .
1.i heard about making backup, installing better rom and i heard about Cyanogenmod and modaco rom . how do i really start to install rom from zero ? any complete link ?
2. if i install rom , and flash it.do all data including phone contact, message and application gone ?
3. i noticed few hacking threads which are link1 , link2 and link3
which one i start first ? does setting will be gone when i flash with new rom ?
4.can anybody give guide for me to create android environment in Ubuntu linux ?
5.what is the best GPS application ?
6.what is different applying rom and theme ? please give full guide link for me to change my theme .
thank you so much
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The stuff you want to do requires you to be rooted first. So download SuperOneClick and use that to root your device first.
1. Making a backup is usually with a app called Rom Manager. After installing, you can press the option to download the recovery and afterwards you can make a backup of the rom. Its best to make a backup of the stock rom that came with the phone just for... backup purposes.
Cyanogenmod is in progress, but not released yet so you should wait for that.
No point in checking on Modaco because there's almost no one posting there for this device.
If you want to install a new rom, you basically only need 3 things. Your phone, the custom rom you want from the Optimus 3D Android Development Section, and the instructions that thread gives you. Its best to follow the instructions that they give. Very easy and simple process.
2. Flashing a rom = installing a rom. All your data and etc are gone. Doesn't exist anymore, it'll be as if you got a fresh phone from out of the box except the rom has been modified. So if you want to keep your data, go make backups of them. For contacts, just sync them with your gmail account. For messages, download an app to back those up. I don't have a texting plan so I can't recommend you a sms backup app. If you want to backup your apps, you can look at Titanium Backup.
3. Whenever you flash a new rom, anything you've done to your phone is gone. So you'll have to reapply any tweaks you've done. For those 3 links, Link 1 and 2 are both stock camera replacements. They replace the stock camera on your phone. So you could only pick one. They both aim to improve the stock camera quality. Personally, I haven't installed either. I use 3rd party camera apps for taking pictures. For the 3rd link, its only a way to get GameLoft games to your external sd card to save some bit of space on your internal sd card. If you need it, try it out. I didn't need it, so I haven't touched it.
4. Are you talking about creating an android app development envirenment or...?
5. GPS, are you talking about GPS navigation, GPS detection, or..?
6. Applying a theme is just changing the graphical appearance of the phone. Applying a rom is changing much more than that. Applying a rom lets you have a rom with tweaks that gives you more space, more speed, more etc etc. Most custom roms has their own themes. Basically, if you want to change how your phone's launcher looks, then that's applying a theme. If you want your phone to be different from stock and have lots of bloatware removed and faster and etc you would want to install a new rom.
To change a theme there's 2 ways. One is to change it on the rom which would affect the stock launcher. 2nd way is to download a new launcher and download any of the themes they have and use those instead. I prefer the 2nd way just because its much easier and most of the time 3rd party launchers are simply better than the stock launchers.
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4. Are you talking about creating an android app development envirenment or...?
5. GPS, are you talking about GPS navigation, GPS detection, or..?
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nope, what i mean is most of the guides such as superoneclick , rooting and etc given for windows users..i have hard time to adept and use it in ubuntu linux . i google around and found few howto in linux . i tried, it is not working atlease for me.
yes, GPS navigation . if possible similar GUI with HTC navigation .