Strange... behaviour ? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

Greetings,
Im getting a really odd problem with my kaiser. I turned it off yesterday nad connected the charger... the cellphone turned on, but showed me that screen that appears when we are flashing it (4 horizontal bars, red, green, blue, white)... (!!!)
Inside the red bar, I can read:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.OlipPof
CPLD-8
Inside the white bar:
Serial
Funny thing is, the phone won´t turn off, I have to remove the battery. After leaving it without the battery for 60 to 120 seconds, I placed the battery again and turned it on... and it booted normally.
Now, most of the time it will boot into the color bars. Any ideas about what is going on ?? Please help... can´t use the phone!

Same thing.....sort of.
I had the same behavior on my Tilt for a while. I did find that if I plugged a usb cable into the phone, or put pressure on the USB port while booting, it would boot normally. It did this for about a week and then started booting normally all the time. The only thing I can think of that I changed that week was upgrading the radio. I upgraded to the 1.64.08.21 radio.
The screen you are seeing is the boot loader screen. When it comes on, does it flash a message real quickly that says something like "image file not found"? That is what mine was doing.
You may also want to check out this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344402

StealthNet said:
Greetings,
Im getting a really odd problem with my kaiser. I turned it off yesterday nad connected the charger... the cellphone turned on, but showed me that screen that appears when we are flashing it (4 horizontal bars, red, green, blue, white)... (!!!)
Inside the red bar, I can read:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.OlipPof
CPLD-8
Inside the white bar:
Serial
Funny thing is, the phone won´t turn off, I have to remove the battery. After leaving it without the battery for 60 to 120 seconds, I placed the battery again and turned it on... and it booted normally.
Now, most of the time it will boot into the color bars. Any ideas about what is going on ?? Please help... can´t use the phone!
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You probably have a messed up bootloader, you can fix it. I had this last week. Check the stickys above. The key program to fix it is mtty, make sure read a lot about it.
check the "Flashing your device section"
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserFAQ
that should help

Well... I tried using mtty, but it won´t work. I suppose it will work only on Windows XP machines right ?
I tried in two machines (Vista 64 and Vista 32) wihtout luck.
I tried reverting the ROM back to OEM, including the bootloader. I successfully flashed this one, but Im still getting the 3 color bootloader.
Thing is, it still reads the same
Inside the red bar, I can read:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.OlipPof
CPLD-8
Inside the white bar:
Serial
After reading the forums, I found out that I´ll get out of this problem by using MTTY, and that I should simply issue a " boot" command.
Is that right ?
If so, my only problem now is to get a Windows XP machine... because I can´t get MTTY to show an USB option to connect to. Already tried configuring activesync, killing the processes, without success.
Ideas ?

StealthNet said:
Well... I tried using mtty, but it won´t work. I suppose it will work only on Windows XP machines right ?
I tried in two machines (Vista 64 and Vista 32) wihtout luck.
I tried reverting the ROM back to OEM, including the bootloader. I successfully flashed this one, but Im still getting the 3 color bootloader.
Thing is, it still reads the same
Inside the red bar, I can read:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.OlipPof
CPLD-8
Inside the white bar:
Serial
After reading the forums, I found out that I´ll get out of this problem by using MTTY, and that I should simply issue a " boot" command.
Is that right ?
If so, my only problem now is to get a Windows XP machine... because I can´t get MTTY to show an USB option to connect to. Already tried configuring activesync, killing the processes, without success.
Ideas ?
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Yea, you are right, only works on XP. I couldn't get it to work on my Vista Box, had to use my gf XP laptop. goodluck, you should be fine once you find one.

Ok,,, not starting to get worried.
Connected to a MTTY, issued the boot command.
Received this as an outpout:
Cmd>boot
Fill RSVD information for block 288 to 309
Storage start sector=0xA680, total sector=0x10C40
Storage start block=687, total block=1073
Total Bad Block in CE: 0
Erase physical block from 975 to 2032
formatstorage Bad block found: 1658
formatstorage Bad block found: 1659
formatstorage Bad block found: 1918
si backup: Erase physical block from 2032 to 2048
No card inserted
OEMIPLInit clear 10MB ext RAM
OEMGetUpdateMode
OEMTranslateBaseAddress 23 80000000 80000000
IPLMSG:0x8:INFO: Loading image ...
IPLMSG:0x9:INFO: Jumping to image...
OEMLaunchImage crc of Mini-Kernel:0x7EB8DBEB
OEMLaunchImage 80000000
Jump to Physical Address 10300000
Now it boots, the bootloader screen appears rapidly, and it fades to white...

... removed the USB cable, the device turned off. Connected it again and the bootloader appeared again.
Any ideas ?

Since I successfully flashed the way in to the default OEM ROM, and I think my problem is related to the bootloader, I tried flashing HardSPL 3.56.
It flashed, rebooted, and booted nicely into WM 6.1 (default version out from this ROM).
The first automatic customization happened as it was supposed to... and it rebooted... into bootloader argh!!
Removed the battery, waited 120 seconds, boot the phone. Working so far. Now, it has a 50%/50% of getting a bootloader or booting correctly.
Any other ideas ?? Man, tell me about a strange thing...

Since there are more with the same problem, but they are discussing it in another thread from L26, I think it's ok to auto moderate this one

Just to point out that the problem is solved (I think) - read here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2415437#post2415437

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Can Somebody Talk me through HardSPL and Dutty Rom?!

I've been at this for 2 days now with no luck. I have my Tilt and I want to use Dutty's Rom V3. I've tried HardSPL sereval times with no luck. I use Vista and that seems to be the problem. I've tried using the method offered by the MrVanX website. Still nothing. I've searched the forums like crazy looking at a bunch of different solutions and trying them but nothing.
Is anybody willing to talk me through it on AIM. My SN is scoorch33.
My bootloader screen shows the thing below, and thats it.
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.56.0000
CPLD-8
Everything you need my friend is right here on this site. Sometimes it may take a day of reading before you find the answer, but trust me, anything that you are experiencing, someone else has already had and found a solution for that particular problem. For the hard_spl problem, which is the first thing that needs to be done, try this thread...it helped me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
I tried using the solutions from that page. I did what the instructions say and during the bootloader screen I get something like this.
KAIS1*0
Jump SPL
CPLD-8
After that I try what it suggests, running the Splash screen application but nothing happens. I extract the files onto my Desktop of my PC and I double click.
A MS-DOS prompt appears for a split second and then disappears. The same happens when I run KaiserCustomeRUU.exe. A brief flash of a dos prompt and then nothing.
My phone stays in the bootloader screen the entire time and then I soft reset, but there are no visible changes to the phone.
Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
I'm trying to do the White Screen Solution Method of flashing the phone. Right now the phone won't even stay on without the SIM card in. It gets to me entering the password and then shuts down and restarts again.
So I run the JumpSPL on my phone and it goes to tricolor mode.
I unplug and plug the USB cable. I then try to run the suggested RUU program. The progam flashes up for a second. I don't even see what it says. The phone still stays in tricolor mode.
Phone doesn't restart until I do a soft reset.
Anybody have any suggestions?
I got it to work.
Found an old harddrive and loaded up XP and did everything.
SBZRO said:
I got it to work.
Found an old harddrive and loaded up XP and did everything.
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hmmm trying to use vista I see...

Tilt powers off at Windows screen

I have an at&t Tilt. I am having a problem with the device automatically powering off during the Windows screen while loading.
To get to where I am at:
1. I followed the instruction to install the HardSPL from HERE. On my bootloader screen, I see:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
2. Then I did the Sim Unlocker procedures found HERE. After completing step 5, the device rebooted, the AT&T icon displayed, then the screen goes blank and stayed that way.
3. I found the fix for the black screen problem HERE. It was a radio problem, and I needed to update the radio to a compatable radio.
4. My phone worked fine for a day. The next day, my phone just died and when I rebooted, it said critically low battery. After I tried to charge it overnight (with AC adapter charger), it was still critical low battery. Then I tried USB charger for the day, still critical low battery. I figured it was a SPL-Radio conflict.
5. Then it stops getting into Windows altogether. It will power off at the Windows loading screen. I let it charge all day. I suppose that the battery is not dead because it is able to stay on the Tri-Color screen without being plugged in, and it always turns off at the same exact point while loading Windows.
6. I still can get to the tricolor screen. I can see USB when plugged and serial when unplugged.
7. I can flash ROMS, and I will even see the different Windows loading screens (Dutty's screens are different than the AT&T green Windows screens.) I have tried original AT&T and cooked WM6.0 Roms/Radios, WM6.1 Roms/Radios. It still keeps rebooting at the Windows loading screen. I tried the original and cooked roms from HERE.
8. I tried accessing the phone via MTTY and use the "boot" command. I still don't fully understand the boot command and what exactly it does, but from my understanding, it resets the boot loader chip.
9. I would like to update the SPL -- instructions HERE. But since I can't fully boot the phone, I can't actually run the Soft SPL (JumpSPL).
Please... any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Similar Problems/Threads:
1. http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406163
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409272
Try to charge through the usb port on your computer... I have had a similar issue, but that was full stock and still have the issue. HTC chargers wont work for me but select moto ones will. Does the orange light come on when you connect by USB to your computer?
I have tried charging through the USB port on my computer (as well as AC Adapter). It does show the amber light on top (for both methods), but no matter how long I charge it, it will never get to the fully charged green light.
I haven't tried a different (non HTC) charger, but I will try that next.
Are you sure the SIM card door is locked? My phone reboots on its own during start-up if the SIM door is nor properly locked into place...
I just tested the sim card cover. It will reboot at the same point even if the cover is on of off. However, I do believe the cover is sitting correctly, because if I'm at the white AT&T boot screen and remove the cover, the phone will power off.
have you tried hard-resetting your tilt before and after flashing? I had the same problem before. Try to do a hard reset, flash a stock ROM for your tilt, then hard reset afterwards. If same thing happens again, we'll try another method
Put phone in tricolor mode and connect with MTTY.
Type "info 8" and post output here. I suspect problem is caused by bad sectors in the OS area.
There a few different forums on this same subject, and I had the exact same experience on a brand new kaiser last week and thought it was dead. Yea, your gonna have to do a hard reset holding down the power and camera buttons then clicking the soft reset button to get to tri color bootloader mode before it dies, then plug into pc and reflash the official htc rom. It seems like a one time phenomenom as my Kaiser is running just fine now as I was three seconds away from flushing it down the toilet
jockyw2001 said:
Put phone in tricolor mode and connect with MTTY.
Type "info 8" and post output here. I suspect problem is caused by bad sectors in the OS area.
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Here is the output after using MTTY:
Cmd>info 8
--- 2K bytes sector version ---
DEVICE NAME=samsung_k9k2g08
DEVICE ID=0xAA
DEVICE MAKER ID=0xEC
PAGE SIZE=0x800
TOTAL PAGE SIZE=0x840
BLOCK COUNT=0x800
BLOCK PAGE=0x40
Checking block information
BLOCK 0 (0x0) is reversed block
BLOCK 1 (0x1) is reversed block
BLOCK 2 (0x2) is reversed block
BLOCK 8 (0x8) is reversed block
BLOCK 9 (0x9) is reversed block
BLOCK 10 (0xA) is reversed block
BLOCK 11 (0xB) is reversed block
Partition[0], type=0x20, start=0x2, total=0x63E
Partition[1], type=0x23, start=0x640, total=0x700
Partition[2], type=0x25, start=0xD40, total=0x94C0
Partition[3], type=0x4, start=0xA200, total=0x110C0
CE Total Length(with sector info) = 0x5151000
CE CheckSum Length(without sector info) = 0x5100000
Cmd>
kaalgoosy said:
There a few different forums on this same subject, and I had the exact same experience on a brand new kaiser last week and thought it was dead. Yea, your gonna have to do a hard reset holding down the power and camera buttons then clicking the soft reset button to get to tri color bootloader mode before it dies, then plug into pc and reflash the official htc rom. It seems like a one time phenomenom as my Kaiser is running just fine now as I was three seconds away from flushing it down the toilet
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I have tried a hard reset before and after flashing the ROM. The method I used was pressing down the two buttons on the front of the phone then soft reset (one above internet button and one above mail button)... then I am prompted with a white screen saying, "This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to manufacturers default. Press Send to restore manufacturer default, or press other keys to cancel." Please let me know if this method is wrong.
I actually haven't tried the official HTC rom because my phone is originally an AT&T phone. I have tried the official AT&T rom, including the WM6.0 and WM6.1, but I will try the HTC rom now. It won't hurt to try!
UPDATE: After hard reset --> Load official HTC Rom 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) --> hard reset again. Still does the same thing... still rebooting during Windows load. The only difference, no more AT&T screen during bootup... now it's a "smart mobility" message.
jommo said:
I have tried a hard reset before and after flashing the ROM. The method I used was pressing down the two buttons on the front of the phone then soft reset (one above internet button and one above mail button)... then I am prompted with a white screen saying, "This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to manufacturers default. Press Send to restore manufacturer default, or press other keys to cancel." Please let me know if this method is wrong.
I actually haven't tried the official HTC rom because my phone is originally an AT&T phone. I have tried the official AT&T rom, including the WM6.0 and WM6.1, but I will try the HTC rom now. It won't hurt to try!
UPDATE: After hard reset --> Load official HTC Rom 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) --> hard reset again. Still does the same thing... still rebooting during Windows load. The only difference, no more AT&T screen during bootup... now it's a "smart mobility" message.
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my OS is writing in bad blocks before that's why it's rebooting over and over again. What I did was use jocky's frankenkaiser (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393337). This WIPES OUT ALL DATA IN YOUR KAISER and you need to restore it back again. FOR THIS YOU NEED TO FLASH THE RADIO FROM HELL (get it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182) AND AN OLD SPL which you have right now. Read the directions carefully-- it's not that hard but also not for the faint-hearted. Goodluck!
pfcsabre said:
my OS is writing in bad blocks before that's why it's rebooting over and over again. What I did was use jocky's frankenkaiser (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393337). This WIPES OUT ALL DATA IN YOUR KAISER and you need to restore it back again. FOR THIS YOU NEED TO FLASH THE RADIO FROM HELL (get it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182) AND AN OLD SPL which you have right now. Read the directions carefully-- it's not that hard but also not for the faint-hearted. Goodluck!
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I know you specifically said to get the radio from hell, but after reading jockey's guide, I got the other radio that GSLEON3 successfully got working with FrankenKaiser. Now I'm stuck because it didn't work out for me. I used radio 1.64.08.21 rather than the actual radio from hell 1.65.17.10. Hopefully GSLEON3 and Jockey will be able to help me with this one.
Can't recall I published FrankenKaiser for radio 1.64.08.21
Here is is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/130939717/FrankenKaiser-V1.9408.zip.html
(follow the readme inside the zip file)
jommo said:
I know you specifically said to get the radio from hell, but after reading jockey's guide, I got the other radio that GSLEON3 successfully got working with FrankenKaiser. Now I'm stuck because it didn't work out for me. I used radio 1.64.08.21 rather than the actual radio from hell 1.65.17.10. Hopefully GSLEON3 and Jockey will be able to help me with this one.
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ooops... replied to your pm it seems jocky sent you the correct one already. Good luck mate
Losing hope....
Well, I successfully completed the FrankenKaiser process, updated my SPL to reflect:
Security Unlocked
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.1.JockyW
CPLD-8
I am still getting the power off while Windows loading.
I even tried to load back the original radio from hell (1.65.17.10) and completely ran through the FrankenKaiser process hoping somehow it would fix the problem... but unfortunately, it did not work.
1. Maybe I'll try a few more rom/radio combinations
2. At least I can re-use FrankenKaiser to get back to factory SPL when I attempt to go through the warranty process.
Any other suggestions??? Please let me know.
***Thanks for the help so far Jockey and pfcsabre***
I also have the at&t tilt kaiser version and used the North American Rom update from the HTC website to get it back up. Have you tried getting into tri color bootloader mode by holding the power and camera buttons then clicking the soft reset button then connecting to pc and flash the the official rom? That's what worked for me
also, are you getting any kind of notifications before it shuts down?
kaalgoosy said:
I also have the at&t tilt kaiser version and used the North American Rom update from the HTC website to get it back up. Have you tried getting into tri color bootloader mode by holding the power and camera buttons then clicking the soft reset button then connecting to pc and flash the the official rom? That's what worked for me
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I have NOT been flashing this way. I have been flashing anytime I get to the tri-color screen, rather than this exact procedure you noted. (Tricolor bootloader--> then soft reset and back to tricolor bootloader) I don't know if this makes a difference or not, but I just tried your method with the rom from the HTC website AT&T Official Rom Download from HTC Website. Still no luck. It still turns off at the Windows screen.
Also, I do not get any kind of notification at all. It always resets before or at the Windows Mobile 6.X screen. I do get a distinctive chime the majority of the time right as it shuts down.
I was having random power down issues as well. This may or may not be the same as your problem, but mine ended up being a hardware issue with the camera itself. My device would suddenly say the camera (actual camera hardware not software) was not recognized and then soon after I would get the chime and then shut down. My only solution was to warranty it. Let's hope I have better luck with a replacement device then a lot of the other storries I have read around here.
Goin' for the warranty...
I want to try the warranty route now. I feel it's hardware at this point because I've already done FrankenKaiser.
Now, my problem lies with returning back to the factory SPL and Rom. I can use FrankenKaiser to UNDO "Security Unlocked" and then use JumpSPL via FrankenKaiser to get back to the factory SPL, but from that point, how do I get back to the original ROM?
Note that I still can't boot into Windows at all, and I will want to flash OEM Rom while I have the OEM SPL. Will the OEM SPL allow flashing back to the OEM Rom, WITHOUT JUMP SPL???
Thanks for your input..

HTC Hermes problem with bootloader

Welcome. For some time I have a problem with my htc. it all started with the fact that I bought hermes quickly on the Internet auction. At the very beginning
it turned out that WiFi does not work, and more precisely, the WiFi card has no address mac. After the short usufruct the device showed black white belts,
and they hung.After the reboot the hermes stopped on the Bootloader mode. On the screen are shown 4 belts (blue, green red and white) and is written:
HERM200
IPL-1.04
HERM200
SPL-2.10.Olipro
I was pressed for time then, therefore I put repair off until later. When I find some more free time, I turn on my hermes, and everything got back to normal.
I turned off smartphon, and I put to him sim card, next I turn on him, and everything joined in normally. Only Wi Fi stil didn't have mac address.
Everything acted correctly, to the moment when the battery went flat and phone was switched off. After connecting to the battery charger, on the screen
then again appeared a bootloader mode.after loading phone battery, I took batteries out on of 3 hours. Next I put her back, and I left hermes for a few
days. I thought perhaps the situation would repeat, and he will become operative, the same as it it took place last time. When I again turn on hermes, he
was again stopped on bootloader. mode. In this situation I thought that I should use mtty. I started mtty, and I performed the following activities:
Cmd>task 32
Level = 0
Cmd>set 14
Write Nand Success
HTCST ÚČŇHTCE
Cmd>task 8
Unfortunately these activities didn't help, so I tried with other method:
Cmd>task 32
Level = 0
Cmd>set 16
Write Nand Success
Cmd>task 8
but these also nothing changed it. Next steps which I carried out one after the other:
I tried to install the new software
(HER_VODA_1201616_1030600_UK_SHIP R:21200 D:51000 U:31102 P:0 EC:0X301 CB: - the RUU program showed Error 260)
next
(884202-ruu_hermes_qtek_fin_wwe_2[1].11.255.2_103_6275_1.38.00.10_108_ship - the update succeeded, but device still stayed in bootloader mode)
Next I still conducted a few updates but effects were similarly as in of the ones exchanged higher. I reached that perhaps problem is in the SPL. I carried
the upgrade out and downgrade but effects were similar like in case of the software. I tried also to update RadioROM, but effects were similar.
Perhaps somebody of you encountered such a problem, or knows how to untie him. I would be very grateful for the help.

Error 262 when trying a Radio or ROM upgrade

Hi there guys .
I've been searching and searching, and trying and trying, but I can't seem to get past this Error [262] when I'm trying to upgrade my ROM or Radio (HTC Diamond).
What I'm doing is this basically:
I downloaded DiamonCustomRUU.exe, put it in a folder with the radio/rom (say Diamond_Radio_1.00.25.05.nbh), I connect my HTC Diamond to my pc via usb, activesync is on, I start up the RUU, go through all the steps, then at the end when the update 'starts', my phone goes off, starts up in the 4 coloured screen, activesync stops, then my phonescreen turns grey with the progress bar (stuck at 0%), and on my laptop there's a progress bar as well. It does nothing, and after about 5 minutes, I get the Error [262].
I reinstalled Activesync, but no changes. I installed HardSPLL though. I tried another USB-port, doing it without my firewall on (someone suggested it, yes I'm desperate)... I have no idea where to go from here.
Can anyone help? (sorry if this is the wrong section..)
Love
Had the normal (signed)SPL instead of the hardSPL. Can be locked

6700 stuck in 1.00 bootloader

I'm trying to prepare my old 6700 to give to a friend, but can't get it reflashed to the stock sprint rom (APAC_SPCS_20600_300_11200_ship.exe, downloaded directly from Sprint). It appears the phone is stuck in the 1.00 bootloader (dark screen, says "SERIAL" until I connect the USB, then changes to "USB".
MTTY couldn't connect (no "USB" in menu), but nueTTY can. The problem HERE is that once I'm connected, I have no idea what to actually DO. Searching returns about a thousand results, and all the results I looked at either didn't resolve the problem and left it hanging, or involved PMs that solved the problem for THEM, but left no information of enduring value for anyone ELSE to read. I've seen dozens of postings saying "use MTTY to run the exit bootloader app", but no hint of what that app actually IS, or how to go about launching it.
So... with the phone tethered via USB, 1.00 bootloader active, and connected via nueTTY... what do I do next?

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