I have an at&t Tilt. I am having a problem with the device automatically powering off during the Windows screen while loading.
To get to where I am at:
1. I followed the instruction to install the HardSPL from HERE. On my bootloader screen, I see:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
2. Then I did the Sim Unlocker procedures found HERE. After completing step 5, the device rebooted, the AT&T icon displayed, then the screen goes blank and stayed that way.
3. I found the fix for the black screen problem HERE. It was a radio problem, and I needed to update the radio to a compatable radio.
4. My phone worked fine for a day. The next day, my phone just died and when I rebooted, it said critically low battery. After I tried to charge it overnight (with AC adapter charger), it was still critical low battery. Then I tried USB charger for the day, still critical low battery. I figured it was a SPL-Radio conflict.
5. Then it stops getting into Windows altogether. It will power off at the Windows loading screen. I let it charge all day. I suppose that the battery is not dead because it is able to stay on the Tri-Color screen without being plugged in, and it always turns off at the same exact point while loading Windows.
6. I still can get to the tricolor screen. I can see USB when plugged and serial when unplugged.
7. I can flash ROMS, and I will even see the different Windows loading screens (Dutty's screens are different than the AT&T green Windows screens.) I have tried original AT&T and cooked WM6.0 Roms/Radios, WM6.1 Roms/Radios. It still keeps rebooting at the Windows loading screen. I tried the original and cooked roms from HERE.
8. I tried accessing the phone via MTTY and use the "boot" command. I still don't fully understand the boot command and what exactly it does, but from my understanding, it resets the boot loader chip.
9. I would like to update the SPL -- instructions HERE. But since I can't fully boot the phone, I can't actually run the Soft SPL (JumpSPL).
Please... any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Similar Problems/Threads:
1. http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406163
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409272
Try to charge through the usb port on your computer... I have had a similar issue, but that was full stock and still have the issue. HTC chargers wont work for me but select moto ones will. Does the orange light come on when you connect by USB to your computer?
I have tried charging through the USB port on my computer (as well as AC Adapter). It does show the amber light on top (for both methods), but no matter how long I charge it, it will never get to the fully charged green light.
I haven't tried a different (non HTC) charger, but I will try that next.
Are you sure the SIM card door is locked? My phone reboots on its own during start-up if the SIM door is nor properly locked into place...
I just tested the sim card cover. It will reboot at the same point even if the cover is on of off. However, I do believe the cover is sitting correctly, because if I'm at the white AT&T boot screen and remove the cover, the phone will power off.
have you tried hard-resetting your tilt before and after flashing? I had the same problem before. Try to do a hard reset, flash a stock ROM for your tilt, then hard reset afterwards. If same thing happens again, we'll try another method
Put phone in tricolor mode and connect with MTTY.
Type "info 8" and post output here. I suspect problem is caused by bad sectors in the OS area.
There a few different forums on this same subject, and I had the exact same experience on a brand new kaiser last week and thought it was dead. Yea, your gonna have to do a hard reset holding down the power and camera buttons then clicking the soft reset button to get to tri color bootloader mode before it dies, then plug into pc and reflash the official htc rom. It seems like a one time phenomenom as my Kaiser is running just fine now as I was three seconds away from flushing it down the toilet
jockyw2001 said:
Put phone in tricolor mode and connect with MTTY.
Type "info 8" and post output here. I suspect problem is caused by bad sectors in the OS area.
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Here is the output after using MTTY:
Cmd>info 8
--- 2K bytes sector version ---
DEVICE NAME=samsung_k9k2g08
DEVICE ID=0xAA
DEVICE MAKER ID=0xEC
PAGE SIZE=0x800
TOTAL PAGE SIZE=0x840
BLOCK COUNT=0x800
BLOCK PAGE=0x40
Checking block information
BLOCK 0 (0x0) is reversed block
BLOCK 1 (0x1) is reversed block
BLOCK 2 (0x2) is reversed block
BLOCK 8 (0x8) is reversed block
BLOCK 9 (0x9) is reversed block
BLOCK 10 (0xA) is reversed block
BLOCK 11 (0xB) is reversed block
Partition[0], type=0x20, start=0x2, total=0x63E
Partition[1], type=0x23, start=0x640, total=0x700
Partition[2], type=0x25, start=0xD40, total=0x94C0
Partition[3], type=0x4, start=0xA200, total=0x110C0
CE Total Length(with sector info) = 0x5151000
CE CheckSum Length(without sector info) = 0x5100000
Cmd>
kaalgoosy said:
There a few different forums on this same subject, and I had the exact same experience on a brand new kaiser last week and thought it was dead. Yea, your gonna have to do a hard reset holding down the power and camera buttons then clicking the soft reset button to get to tri color bootloader mode before it dies, then plug into pc and reflash the official htc rom. It seems like a one time phenomenom as my Kaiser is running just fine now as I was three seconds away from flushing it down the toilet
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I have tried a hard reset before and after flashing the ROM. The method I used was pressing down the two buttons on the front of the phone then soft reset (one above internet button and one above mail button)... then I am prompted with a white screen saying, "This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to manufacturers default. Press Send to restore manufacturer default, or press other keys to cancel." Please let me know if this method is wrong.
I actually haven't tried the official HTC rom because my phone is originally an AT&T phone. I have tried the official AT&T rom, including the WM6.0 and WM6.1, but I will try the HTC rom now. It won't hurt to try!
UPDATE: After hard reset --> Load official HTC Rom 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) --> hard reset again. Still does the same thing... still rebooting during Windows load. The only difference, no more AT&T screen during bootup... now it's a "smart mobility" message.
jommo said:
I have tried a hard reset before and after flashing the ROM. The method I used was pressing down the two buttons on the front of the phone then soft reset (one above internet button and one above mail button)... then I am prompted with a white screen saying, "This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to manufacturers default. Press Send to restore manufacturer default, or press other keys to cancel." Please let me know if this method is wrong.
I actually haven't tried the official HTC rom because my phone is originally an AT&T phone. I have tried the official AT&T rom, including the WM6.0 and WM6.1, but I will try the HTC rom now. It won't hurt to try!
UPDATE: After hard reset --> Load official HTC Rom 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) --> hard reset again. Still does the same thing... still rebooting during Windows load. The only difference, no more AT&T screen during bootup... now it's a "smart mobility" message.
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my OS is writing in bad blocks before that's why it's rebooting over and over again. What I did was use jocky's frankenkaiser (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393337). This WIPES OUT ALL DATA IN YOUR KAISER and you need to restore it back again. FOR THIS YOU NEED TO FLASH THE RADIO FROM HELL (get it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182) AND AN OLD SPL which you have right now. Read the directions carefully-- it's not that hard but also not for the faint-hearted. Goodluck!
pfcsabre said:
my OS is writing in bad blocks before that's why it's rebooting over and over again. What I did was use jocky's frankenkaiser (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393337). This WIPES OUT ALL DATA IN YOUR KAISER and you need to restore it back again. FOR THIS YOU NEED TO FLASH THE RADIO FROM HELL (get it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182) AND AN OLD SPL which you have right now. Read the directions carefully-- it's not that hard but also not for the faint-hearted. Goodluck!
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I know you specifically said to get the radio from hell, but after reading jockey's guide, I got the other radio that GSLEON3 successfully got working with FrankenKaiser. Now I'm stuck because it didn't work out for me. I used radio 1.64.08.21 rather than the actual radio from hell 1.65.17.10. Hopefully GSLEON3 and Jockey will be able to help me with this one.
Can't recall I published FrankenKaiser for radio 1.64.08.21
Here is is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/130939717/FrankenKaiser-V1.9408.zip.html
(follow the readme inside the zip file)
jommo said:
I know you specifically said to get the radio from hell, but after reading jockey's guide, I got the other radio that GSLEON3 successfully got working with FrankenKaiser. Now I'm stuck because it didn't work out for me. I used radio 1.64.08.21 rather than the actual radio from hell 1.65.17.10. Hopefully GSLEON3 and Jockey will be able to help me with this one.
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ooops... replied to your pm it seems jocky sent you the correct one already. Good luck mate
Losing hope....
Well, I successfully completed the FrankenKaiser process, updated my SPL to reflect:
Security Unlocked
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.1.JockyW
CPLD-8
I am still getting the power off while Windows loading.
I even tried to load back the original radio from hell (1.65.17.10) and completely ran through the FrankenKaiser process hoping somehow it would fix the problem... but unfortunately, it did not work.
1. Maybe I'll try a few more rom/radio combinations
2. At least I can re-use FrankenKaiser to get back to factory SPL when I attempt to go through the warranty process.
Any other suggestions??? Please let me know.
***Thanks for the help so far Jockey and pfcsabre***
I also have the at&t tilt kaiser version and used the North American Rom update from the HTC website to get it back up. Have you tried getting into tri color bootloader mode by holding the power and camera buttons then clicking the soft reset button then connecting to pc and flash the the official rom? That's what worked for me
also, are you getting any kind of notifications before it shuts down?
kaalgoosy said:
I also have the at&t tilt kaiser version and used the North American Rom update from the HTC website to get it back up. Have you tried getting into tri color bootloader mode by holding the power and camera buttons then clicking the soft reset button then connecting to pc and flash the the official rom? That's what worked for me
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I have NOT been flashing this way. I have been flashing anytime I get to the tri-color screen, rather than this exact procedure you noted. (Tricolor bootloader--> then soft reset and back to tricolor bootloader) I don't know if this makes a difference or not, but I just tried your method with the rom from the HTC website AT&T Official Rom Download from HTC Website. Still no luck. It still turns off at the Windows screen.
Also, I do not get any kind of notification at all. It always resets before or at the Windows Mobile 6.X screen. I do get a distinctive chime the majority of the time right as it shuts down.
I was having random power down issues as well. This may or may not be the same as your problem, but mine ended up being a hardware issue with the camera itself. My device would suddenly say the camera (actual camera hardware not software) was not recognized and then soon after I would get the chime and then shut down. My only solution was to warranty it. Let's hope I have better luck with a replacement device then a lot of the other storries I have read around here.
Goin' for the warranty...
I want to try the warranty route now. I feel it's hardware at this point because I've already done FrankenKaiser.
Now, my problem lies with returning back to the factory SPL and Rom. I can use FrankenKaiser to UNDO "Security Unlocked" and then use JumpSPL via FrankenKaiser to get back to the factory SPL, but from that point, how do I get back to the original ROM?
Note that I still can't boot into Windows at all, and I will want to flash OEM Rom while I have the OEM SPL. Will the OEM SPL allow flashing back to the OEM Rom, WITHOUT JUMP SPL???
Thanks for your input..
Related
Greetings,
Im getting a really odd problem with my kaiser. I turned it off yesterday nad connected the charger... the cellphone turned on, but showed me that screen that appears when we are flashing it (4 horizontal bars, red, green, blue, white)... (!!!)
Inside the red bar, I can read:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.OlipPof
CPLD-8
Inside the white bar:
Serial
Funny thing is, the phone won´t turn off, I have to remove the battery. After leaving it without the battery for 60 to 120 seconds, I placed the battery again and turned it on... and it booted normally.
Now, most of the time it will boot into the color bars. Any ideas about what is going on ?? Please help... can´t use the phone!
Same thing.....sort of.
I had the same behavior on my Tilt for a while. I did find that if I plugged a usb cable into the phone, or put pressure on the USB port while booting, it would boot normally. It did this for about a week and then started booting normally all the time. The only thing I can think of that I changed that week was upgrading the radio. I upgraded to the 1.64.08.21 radio.
The screen you are seeing is the boot loader screen. When it comes on, does it flash a message real quickly that says something like "image file not found"? That is what mine was doing.
You may also want to check out this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344402
StealthNet said:
Greetings,
Im getting a really odd problem with my kaiser. I turned it off yesterday nad connected the charger... the cellphone turned on, but showed me that screen that appears when we are flashing it (4 horizontal bars, red, green, blue, white)... (!!!)
Inside the red bar, I can read:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.OlipPof
CPLD-8
Inside the white bar:
Serial
Funny thing is, the phone won´t turn off, I have to remove the battery. After leaving it without the battery for 60 to 120 seconds, I placed the battery again and turned it on... and it booted normally.
Now, most of the time it will boot into the color bars. Any ideas about what is going on ?? Please help... can´t use the phone!
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You probably have a messed up bootloader, you can fix it. I had this last week. Check the stickys above. The key program to fix it is mtty, make sure read a lot about it.
check the "Flashing your device section"
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserFAQ
that should help
Well... I tried using mtty, but it won´t work. I suppose it will work only on Windows XP machines right ?
I tried in two machines (Vista 64 and Vista 32) wihtout luck.
I tried reverting the ROM back to OEM, including the bootloader. I successfully flashed this one, but Im still getting the 3 color bootloader.
Thing is, it still reads the same
Inside the red bar, I can read:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.OlipPof
CPLD-8
Inside the white bar:
Serial
After reading the forums, I found out that I´ll get out of this problem by using MTTY, and that I should simply issue a " boot" command.
Is that right ?
If so, my only problem now is to get a Windows XP machine... because I can´t get MTTY to show an USB option to connect to. Already tried configuring activesync, killing the processes, without success.
Ideas ?
StealthNet said:
Well... I tried using mtty, but it won´t work. I suppose it will work only on Windows XP machines right ?
I tried in two machines (Vista 64 and Vista 32) wihtout luck.
I tried reverting the ROM back to OEM, including the bootloader. I successfully flashed this one, but Im still getting the 3 color bootloader.
Thing is, it still reads the same
Inside the red bar, I can read:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.OlipPof
CPLD-8
Inside the white bar:
Serial
After reading the forums, I found out that I´ll get out of this problem by using MTTY, and that I should simply issue a " boot" command.
Is that right ?
If so, my only problem now is to get a Windows XP machine... because I can´t get MTTY to show an USB option to connect to. Already tried configuring activesync, killing the processes, without success.
Ideas ?
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Yea, you are right, only works on XP. I couldn't get it to work on my Vista Box, had to use my gf XP laptop. goodluck, you should be fine once you find one.
Ok,,, not starting to get worried.
Connected to a MTTY, issued the boot command.
Received this as an outpout:
Cmd>boot
Fill RSVD information for block 288 to 309
Storage start sector=0xA680, total sector=0x10C40
Storage start block=687, total block=1073
Total Bad Block in CE: 0
Erase physical block from 975 to 2032
formatstorage Bad block found: 1658
formatstorage Bad block found: 1659
formatstorage Bad block found: 1918
si backup: Erase physical block from 2032 to 2048
No card inserted
OEMIPLInit clear 10MB ext RAM
OEMGetUpdateMode
OEMTranslateBaseAddress 23 80000000 80000000
IPLMSG:0x8:INFO: Loading image ...
IPLMSG:0x9:INFO: Jumping to image...
OEMLaunchImage crc of Mini-Kernel:0x7EB8DBEB
OEMLaunchImage 80000000
Jump to Physical Address 10300000
Now it boots, the bootloader screen appears rapidly, and it fades to white...
... removed the USB cable, the device turned off. Connected it again and the bootloader appeared again.
Any ideas ?
Since I successfully flashed the way in to the default OEM ROM, and I think my problem is related to the bootloader, I tried flashing HardSPL 3.56.
It flashed, rebooted, and booted nicely into WM 6.1 (default version out from this ROM).
The first automatic customization happened as it was supposed to... and it rebooted... into bootloader argh!!
Removed the battery, waited 120 seconds, boot the phone. Working so far. Now, it has a 50%/50% of getting a bootloader or booting correctly.
Any other ideas ?? Man, tell me about a strange thing...
Since there are more with the same problem, but they are discussing it in another thread from L26, I think it's ok to auto moderate this one
Just to point out that the problem is solved (I think) - read here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2415437#post2415437
I have had a long weekend of reading and searching forums and need some help. I have managed to solve by previous issue of my Kaiser getting stuck in the tricolor screen.
Used the mtty file to reboot.
I have Hard SPL and now loaded Duttys Diamond V9. It took a number of efforts to get it to load but I was able to do this after loading the original HTC 6.1 Rom
Now i have a new problem with my Kaiser continually rebooting. This happens no matter which ROM I flash with. Can anyone help me.
skipball said:
I have had a long weekend of reading and searching forums and need some help. ...snip...
Now i have a new problem with my Kaiser continually rebooting. ...snip....
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Just a guess - but you may have some bad blocks that are in the boot loader area.
Here is what I would do -
1. try loading a different ROM and see if that solves the problem (it seems as if you have already done this)
2. if you continue to have this issue I would send a message to either JOCKY or GSLEON3 - PM them and let them know what your issue is. Theya re the best at this sort of thing.
Good luck,
Bill
Honestly,
What I would do is flash back to original ROM and bring it back to the store if you still have your warranty... As I think this could indeed be a physical issue, might not be resolvable with software,
Regards,
Have you tried...
Did you HR prior to flash as well as after the flash? I had this happen once and now I always HR prior to flash and after Flash. Sometimes multiple HR's prior and post just because I am neurotic. Did you try removing the SIM card? Or maybe try using a different radio. Sometimes this behavior can be a radio issue. If you are using one of Dutty’s ROM, try using the Polaris radio. Try re-flashing the radio first, THEN re-flash your Dutty ROM and see if that helps. Probably a compatibility issue between the ROM and Radio, no? Maybe?
Anyway, hope this helps. I know it is frustrating.
~Gwen
Hrm,
I get this sometimes too. I'm thinking perhaps its an issue with one of your today screen plugins...I am sure that's what has caused it on my device before.
Syphon Filter said:
Hrm,
I get this sometimes too. I'm thinking perhaps its an issue with one of your today screen plugins...I am sure that's what has caused it on my device before.
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I doubt that it is a today screen plug-in. If im understanding this correctly his Kaiser reboots b4 it even loads WM, so it wouldnt be a today screen issue.
Not Entirely
zeezee said:
I doubt that it is a today screen plug-in. If im understanding this correctly his Kaiser reboots b4 it even loads WM, so it wouldnt be a today screen issue.
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Actually, he never said it would not boot into WM. He said that he finally got the dutty ROM to load and NOW his kaiser reboots continually which is why I posted what I posted. I didn't see where he said that it resets before it even loads WM. Although his second to last line does leave me wondering if he means that no matter what ROM he flashes it resets before WM OR if he means that he can flash ROMS, get to WM and then has the reset problem. The latter would be indicative of a today plugin.
~Gwen
Thanks for the replies.
It boots before and after the windows screen and is inconsistent.
Could it be a problem in the boot loader? I did have to flash the first couple of times from the tricolor screen.
I have also had problems with the soft reset button. It now seems to be ok after the last flash but prior i could not get the unit to hard or soft reset.
Here is what i get when i enter tricolor screen and run mtty
Cmd>set 14 0
Cmd>task 28
Format start
Fill RSVD information for block 288 to 309
Storage start sector=0xA480, total sector=0x10E40
Storage start block=679, total block=1081
Total Bad Block in CE: 0
Erase physical block from 967 to 2032
si backup: Erase physical block from 2032 to 2048
Format end
Cmd>boot
InitDisplay: Display_Chip=1
Fill RSVD information for block 288 to 309
Storage start sector=0xA480, total sector=0x10E40
Storage start block=679, total block=1081
Total Bad Block in CE: 0
Erase physical block from 967 to 2032
si backup: Erase physical block from 2032 to 2048
No card inserted
OSSIPreLoad ++
R 1.58.25.17
G 25.69.30.05H
D 3.55.00.00
skipball said:
Thanks for the replies.
It boots before and after the windows screen and is inconsistent.
Could it be a problem in the boot loader? I did have to flash the first couple of times from the tricolor screen.
I have also had problems with the soft reset button. It now seems to be ok after the last flash but prior i could not get the unit to hard or soft reset.
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I'd strongly suggest try a different radio that's got good reputation for your OS.
Or could it also be dirt in the soft reset hole? I don't know...
ok I have now returned my phone to its original state. I Followed the procedures outlines in Sirsycho post (thanks)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
It now appears the phone has stabilised.
Although I have managed to kill my original Battery in the process. Lucky for the back up battery.
The device is still rebooting so I guess there is a bigger problem then I can sort out
Is there a possibility that my soft reset button could have issues. It is definitely only working randomly!
For diamond we have L26 V9 ROM and Dutty V1 ROM. Which one of these do you have?
skipball said:
ok I have now returned my phone to its original state. I Followed the procedures outlines in Sirsycho post (thanks)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
It now appears the phone has stabilised.
Although I have managed to kill my original Battery in the process. Lucky for the back up battery.
The device is still rebooting so I guess there is a bigger problem then I can sort out
Is there a possibility that my soft reset button could have issues. It is definitely only working randomly!
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Mine will reboot randomly if I'm using Opera Mobile 9.5 beta or have it open. That happened to me with both the Laurentius and Dutty ROMs. I'm using the new HTC ROM that was posted over the weekend with the new radio and haven't done a lot of browsing but it hasn't happened yet.
skipball said:
I have had a long weekend of reading and searching forums and need some help. I have managed to solve by previous issue of my Kaiser getting stuck in the tricolor screen.
Used the mtty file to reboot.
I have Hard SPL and now loaded Duttys Diamond V9. It took a number of efforts to get it to load but I was able to do this after loading the original HTC 6.1 Rom
Now i have a new problem with my Kaiser continually rebooting. This happens no matter which ROM I flash with. Can anyone help me.
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Not sure if this is the issue, but I loaded Dutty's Diamond not long ago, and my Kaiser reset every time I opened WMP. There's been a few reports of it, although some haven't had that problem. Loading a WMP cab does NOT fix it for me (again, some have had luck, other's haven't).
@skipball
sounds to me like this could be hardware related .. maybe your soft reset button is stuck pushed in ... just a theory. If the phone is reverted back to original state you could always return for warranty/replacement.
I returned my phone to its original state (I hope LOL!) and will send it back to HTC. It is still rebooting.
This what happen i bought a new 8925 with radio 1.27.14.09
first i did Kaiser HardSPL v1 known as "SPL-1.0 OliPof" everything went well
then i wanted to do Kaiser Sim Unlocker v0.1
First i did step 1 "This will flash the special patched radio rom"
then rebooted and the screen went black then white fuzz with colours and nothing could be seen. yet i could get into the tri color by pressing camera and soft reset.
then I Power off your Kaiser and insert a 'strange' SIM
then i put in tri color by pressing camera and soft reset then went into step 2
turn on the 8925 ( still could,nt see a thing on 8926 still black) opened the 8925 keyboard by slideing it out and enter the unlock code 12345678 and press enter
Now perform a soft reset by pressing the reset button *but* at the same time keep the camera button pressed
right-click activeync icon and uncheck "Allow USB connections" from Connection Settings on the activesyc
once 8925 bootup (still in black sreen could,nt see a thing )
a box opened on the windows and it showed the unlock code (write it down on a paper
i right-click activeync icon and check "Allow USB connections" from Connection Settings
waited for the green activeync to light up
download my radio from
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182&highlight=download+radio
at this time the 8925 still in (black screen and could,nt see a thing) yet when connect to the usb the green activsyc lite up
i then flashed the radio 1.27.14.09 which i download
when finish the 8925 reboot and the i could see eveything it (no more black screen ) i got my 8925 back, once the 8925 is up and running it came up
with enter the code, i enter the code which i wrote down and it work well
the same i had to do with "Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1"
once you do step 1 your in black screen with radio 1.27.14.09 for some reason.
but once step 2 ( in black screen can,t see a thing ) and step 3 is done with the Radio you downloaded, it all works well
i flashed L26_KaiserDiamond_V9 and it work like a charm
i hope this help someone new
Good Luck
Wow,That's a lot of work.
Or you could have in the following order:
Put HardSPL 3.28 on it
flashed it with a few of the available 6.1 roms (before you loaded the radio)
used kaiser unlocker to flash the patched radio rom
run the kaiserunlocker after the reboot
reload the radio of your choice
can really put hardspl 3.28 (i dont think) like that since he never unlocked the CID? i think that's on step 3 of the kaiserunlocker and he only got to "complete" 2.. i'm in the same boat he is
theromanone said:
can really put hardspl 3.28 (i dont think) like that since he never unlocked the CID? i think that's on step 3 of the kaiserunlocker and he only got to "complete" 2.. i'm in the same boat he is
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yes
if you follow the instructions, you can load hardspl without cid/sim unlocking. I just did both of my phones without CID unlocking either phone.
His problem was caused by loading a patched radio with a stock/incompatible ROM. Not a good combination in my experience.
ahh i see, this is going to take longer than i thought ha
ya it was a lot of work but when you bought a new 8925 for $400 buck
and it go into black screen your whole world fall down, but what i wrote
give newbies a little life to go ahead fight to bring the 8925 back to life,
and give a basic idea what has happen the their 8925
The First day of Life, Death, and Resurrection of my Tilt
Nice work ron999, I dealt with similiar problems a while back. Thought I fried my new toy, and was a bit too proud to ask for assistance. Here was my mess:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2022700#post2022700
I'm sure I probably did something out of order, but its been easy to flash ever since.
HI, the problem is that phone dont start, what happens is that when attempting to turn it only shows the Tmobile logo for a few seconds, then turns off and comes back the logo, and definitely off, the LED light dont turns on but displays the logo when power on the cellphone!!!!!!!!!!
I appreciate your help
Step 1:
It could be a problem with the battery - reboot while the charger is connected
and/or let the battery charge fully before turning on the device. Use a different battery if you can get for a try-out.
Step 2:
Remove the SD card, sometimes a faulty card prevents the boot.
Step3:
If the boot does not go to the operating system, then also the settings in the OS may prevent a clean boot. This is very unusual, but you could try to reset the device to the "out of the box" settings (hard reset). You will loose all data and installed programs on the device though in that way.
Step 4:
If the OS is corrupt (how could that happen?) you may want to re-flash the operating system. Take the last available official ROM for that - you will not have to deal with any "special" unlocking stuff. Needless to say that you will also loose everything on the device.
Hi
I have this problem too. T-Mobile SDA Music Edition (Tornado) starts to T-Mobile logo and turn off. I read a lot about it and I think its corrupted after flashing to WM6 (it was'nt my phone). When I write to TeraTerm "info 2" it looks like its CID locked...
Is it enough to return to the original WM5 ROM??
If yes, wher can I find it??
Edit:
I found t-mobile SDA ROM in this post:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1035146-SDA-ROM-disappeared-from-HTC-site-Why
but it didn't help:/
Edit:
It works After second flashing SDA alive. First time don't work because battery
Good day.......
I am mailing out of real frustration.
I don't know if this is allowed.
I collected a cingular 8125 from a friend in the UK.
I noticed on starting up that there was Tmobile screen first before the windows mobile screen starts. I had no problem with the fone until i realised that i couldnt connect to my local networks GPRS service (who uses a phone that can't browse)
After scanning thru the site, i decided to flash the phone with Crasing's WM6.5 ROM after doing a HardSPL and i could browse and it was the perfect phone apart from the fact that it was real slow and hangs attimes.
It got worse so i got fed up and decided to revert it back to the original ROM and sort the browsing stuff with a network fix that someone on this site had told me.
I reverted the hardSPL and on installing the Tmobile ROM, it brought out an error message, tried with the Cingular ROM same thing.
So i tired reflashing by using a software called Flash Center and it started and stopped at the 1%.
Restarting my phone just shows me the bootloader screen and i have been battling it constantly for 3 weeks but to no avail
I have read almost all forums here, done almost all they ask to do, but nothing.
The only ROM that worked on it is the WIZARD love ROM but it using exactly 21mins to start up. Thot of downloading Faria/Molski WM5 ROM (cos i sorta prefer going back to WM5) but the links for their downloads are dead.
Please help/direct me to where i can see help cos i really need the phone like 2 weeks ago. I am most definitely depressed now.
Thanks.
Check here for all HTC Wizard WM5 OEM shipped ROMS. The one for Cingular is listed in there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Wizard_Windows_Mobile_5.0_Shipped_ROMs
You say the phone is a Cingular (G4 DOC version). Does it look like this one (click link ... http://www.brighthand.com/assets/4811.jpg ) with the Cingular logo on top left, etc?
Did you require the HardSPL to be able to flash to new ROM, or did you just use the SIM / CID unlocker using the Wizard Service Tool (note the Wizard Service Tool will only work for G3 DOC type device, not the G4 DOC devices)
You said you also removed the HardSPL. If you removed the HardSPL, then you can only flach the OEM ROMS (i.e., if yours is Cingular, then you can only flash the Cingular Stock ROM ... check link above and use Cingular 2.25 (click here ...
... http://www.4shared.com/file/BJUEhCC9/RUU_Wizard_Cingular_8125_WIZCN.html )
First do a battery pull, replace battery, then start device in bootloader mode (i.e., press and hold Camera button on side, then using the stylus press and release Reset button on same side. Do NOT power up the unit by trying to turn on using the Power button on top). Take note of IPL and SPL version that shows up on Bootloader (3 colour) screen. Then plug in USB and try re-flashing with Cingular OEM ROM.
After successful OEM ROM you can then try HardSPL again and re-flash to other ROMS. There are plenty of cooked WM5 and WM6.1 ROMS out there. The WM6.5 is too much (I think) for these devices. A neat clean simple WM5 or WM6.1 with overclocking works very good.
Regarding your settings for ISO, GPRS, WAP etc. you can look for a Netwrok Wizard cab file, and install ( heres the newest I could find ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121023&d=1223800573). This will install 6 files into the root Windows directory of the phone. Reboot the phone and you will notice the Network Wizard icon show up in the Settings/Connection control panel.
One of the files it installs is called provision.zip. You will want to update this by copying the following to the windows directory overwriting the old one. This contains all the settings for your phone. Once you copy this over, click on the wizard in the Connection Settings control panel, and it should give you options for Country and Cell Phone carrier/provider. Click away and it shoould automatically set up the correct info for WAP, GPRS, ISP, MMS, etc.
Good Luck. Let me know what happens.
WOW
Thanks for the response
I used the HardSPL to flash the new ROM.
I removed the HardSPL and the Olip in my IPL was changed back to the 2.26.0001
I tried the cingular 2.25 ROM but it says it wasn't meant for the device and most times the RUU doesn't recognise the phone. Tried the Tmobile 2.26 same thing.
Also used crossbow WM5 AKU2.3 and AKU3.3 ROMs they worked but fails at 96%
The only ROMs that worked is Wizard Love ROM but it spends about 20mins to get to the part where it asks you to align screen and it doesn't move from there
Thanks for the info on the WM5/WM6 also the network wizard cab file. Really hope that phone works
I'm a pretty desperate guy right now cos i use the phone to trade and money is moving, she(money) is a *****
WOW
Thanks for the response
About the pix you reffered to? Yes thats exactly how my phone looks like
I had used the HardSPL to flash the new ROM.
I removed the HardSPL and the Olip in my IPL was changed back to the 2.26.0001, SPL 2.26.0001
I tried the cingular 2.25 ROM but it says it wasn't meant for the device and most times the RUU doesn't recognise the phone. Tried the Tmobile 2.26 same thing.
Also used crossbow WM5 AKU2.3 and AKU3.3 ROMs they worked but fails at 96%
The only ROMs that worked is Wizard Love ROM but it spends about 20mins to get to the part where it asks you to align screen and it doesn't move from there
Thanks for the info on the WM5/WM6 also the network wizard cab file. Really hope that phone works
I'm a pretty desperate guy right now cos i use the phone to trade and money is moving, she(money) is a *****
PS: My IPL/SPL is 2.26.0001
OK. Good info.
Not sure how you did it but somehow you managed to get the T-Mobile IPL/SPL on it, and yet it still recognizes it is Cingular. For one reason or another one aspect does not let the other load and vice versa. ????? Hhhmmmnnn ????
Here is what I would try.
1) I have attached a zip file called SoftSPL. Inside I have made an image file nk.nbf, which contains ONLY the 2.25.0001 IPL and SPL for the Cingular 8125.
Unzip this folder to your Desktop and then try to run only the "newromupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe". Remember, start the phone up in bootloader mode, connect via USB then run the "newrom...exe" file. If you get an error right away saying this is not the right update utility for the phone or something like that, then start over ... i.e., disconnect phone, pull battery, start phone in bootloader mode,reconnect via USB, but this second time try using the one called "2.exe". I found sometimes when I flashed ROMS the first one did not work and the second one (2.exe) did for me.
IF this works, once you get the 2.25.0001 IPL and SPL showing on the bootloader screen then start again (pull battery etc. same as above) but then re-flash back to the original Cingular OEM 2.25 ROM that you tried earlier (the original RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe). Try this and let me know how it goes.
If and when you get it back to the original Cingular ROM, if you get to this point, you can then start back like it was when phone was "new". It will still be SIM unlocked so you can use any carriers SIM card but you cannot flash other ROMs.
If you are going to try other ROMs, re-apply the HardSPL, but make sure you only use ROMs that have been cooked, say they are safe for G4 devices and do not have IPL/SPL in them. This means when you have it HardSPL'd you cannot, or should not use other carriers OEM ROM's such as T-Mobile 2.26 or 3.08.
Lastly, if you do like some of the "extra's" offered with WM6 or higher and do not like a slow phone and want to keep it fast like a WM5 ROM, then stick to either WM6.0 or WM6.1, clean (or what they call Vanilla) ROMs.
Good Luck. Give feedback of how it works out for you and pay attention to errors and messages and IPL/SPL etc. for reporting back and I can help you a little more.
Another thanks again.
I really owe you if and when my phone is finally done cos i think i am getting there.
But i successfully changed the IPL/SPL but on flashing the cingular ROM it says the RUU cannot see my phone and once it sees that it says the update utility cannot be used for my phone.
So what next?
Maybe the ROM is not the right one but i ensure it was meant for g4 tho"
Tried MUN-RUU but to no avail
Eagerly waiting your reply.
Thanks again
OK. YES. You are getting there.
You say the phone is now IPL/SPL 2.25.0001. It shows this on the 3 colour bootloader screen?
What did you run in order to flash; did you run the "newromupdateutility_wizard.exe", or "2.exe", or did you need to run the "START-sSPL.exe" to flash th nk.nbf file I made? (I don't think the "START-sSPL.exe" works from the bootloader screen...phone has to be booted to working status).
Here's what is next. I made a new nk.nbf which is the Cingular 2.25 OS, splash screens and 2.25 radio only. I removed the IPL/SPL and the Extended_ROM, and cooked this back to nk.nbf.
Download it from here .....
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/7WhstX82/nk.nbf.html
..... and copy this to the folder you made of the SoftSPL earlier (overwriting the other nk.nbf - you may want to save that as a back up)
Now try flashing this new nk.nbf again as you did for the IPL/SPL.
If it works, then let the phone boot up completely. Check it out. And then you can run the RUU for the original Cingular OEM once the phone is booted to get it back to Cingular OEM state (full IPL/SPL, OS, GSM, Extended_ROM, etc.)
From here (if you make it) then any further flashing of ROMs, you will want to flash G4 safe ROM's, and you can do this using the SoftSPL folder. Copy the nk.nbf from the custom ROM you want to flash into the SoftSPL folder and run the "START-sSPL.exe" with your phone connected (not in bootloader mode, has to be completely started up and recognized by ActiveSync, but you do not need to establish partnership ... just skip/cancel that part and phone will connect to ActiveSync as a "Guest").
Good Luck. Let me know how you make out with this.
Just to answer your questions.
I ran the "newromupdateutility_wizard.exe"
Would follow thy new instruction sire and get back to thee.....lol
Thanks again.
I am not here to say "Yipee, its done'
But rather to say that the universe, cingular and the god of communication might have just conspired against me.
Just when i think i would finally get my phone working after 3 weeks, a 2 yr old kid took my batteries and only God know where that batteries is now.
Tried to buy a new one but all i get is "Wow! that a pretty old uncommon phone here"
I intend to use an ac to dc converter and when i am done i would give you the feedback
Thanks
PS: Just wanted to give you the heads-up
So i found the battery early this a.m.
Flashed the phone with the ROM you uploaded and it was succesful but on starting it i get a green screen and its damn slow and doesn't even pass the spot where you are asked to align screen (i really do think that nothing happen and its still the Wizard Love ROM that its still booting into)
So I am still stuck?
Hmmm....
OK i guess there might be a psych diagnosis for what i am doing (posting excessive replies without any respond)
It just a worried person.
So i kept re-trying to flash the ROM on my phone about 2ce.
Then i noticed on the 2nd time at about 86% the phone seemed to restart itself into bootloader mode about 2-3X, so i thot the battery was running out. Decided to take it out and get it charged.
On plugging the battery back to the phone all i got was a white screen and starting it on bootloader mode OR hard-resetting still gives me that white screen. On removing the battery the phone flashes like once or twice.
Is this the end? The phone has brought an apocalypse on?
Been doing a lot of browsing for clues but nothing tangible yet.
God smiled on me and the phone started
Got the ROM you gave me flashed and its really refreshing to see the Windows Mobile logo again
But i am stuck at the align screen tho'
I tap and nothing happens unless i drag the target and it just moves around and get back to the original spot.
Thats the latest pal.
OOPS. I did not read all .... your posts ... I just answered your post at the end of the last page. Did not see these last 2.
This is a good sign that you get past the initial boot splash screens and make it to the Align Screen ... soft reset the phone again and look at the IPL SPL that shows on the screen. Is it 2.25.0001 or 2.26.0001?
If 2.25.0001 then let the phone boot up to the Align Screen (and if you cannot get past this then just leave it at this point). Plug back into computer and now try to flash Cingular OEM ROM 2.25 that you tried earlier using the stock file.
If this doesn't let you flash for the same reasons as before (i.e., Invalid RUU tool or Not correct operator) then extract the nk.nbf from the Stock Cingular ROM (right click on the Cingular RUU OEM exe and select "Extract here ...".) then copy the nk.nbf over to the Soft SPL folder and use the START-sSPL.exe and flash this way. (you can delete the rest of the files from the Extract process.
Good Luck. Let me know the IPL SPL you get.
I know my posts are getting sickening but i am really desperate.
Got some info about how to bypass the align screen online but couldn't get my phone to boot anymore.
Soft reset/Hard reset/Bootloader mode: All of it just shows a white screen and nothin more.
Any ideas?
PS:The last time i could start the phone the IPL/SPL was 2.25.0001.
Just want to add this cos i just noticed it:
1. Sometimes tapping the Camera button alone puts the phone on (tho' it shows that annoying white screen)
2. On connecting the phone to a PC the PC recognises it even tho' its off and once i put it on and that annoying white screen comes on, the PC gives the same sound as when a USB is detached.
Hope these info would help.
I"m really getting depressed now. Hope's looking dimmer.
OK. I am now suspecting that you may also have a battery problem. How old is the battery. Could be the battery no longer has enough capacity. It may charge but only hold a charge for very short time and voltage may be too low. Maybe enough power to keep some of the electronics "awake" but not enough to drive the LCD.
It is now IPL/SPL 2.25.0001 so it should be able to flash the Cingular OEM ROM. You may want to try a different battery. Other than this, if not a problem with the battery then I think maybe phone itself is coming to an end.
I would try the battery route, making sure you have a good power source, and then try to flash the stock Cingular ROM.
You can still get these batteries on ebay and phone as well. If you are going to spend any money then maybe instead consider a newer model phone on ebay. (if you are patient you can find very good deal ... I got the T-Mo MDA Vario version of the Wizard (WIZA200) for $25 plus shipping, brand new with a carrying case. It was an estate item from a salesman who passed away and phone was not used before he passed on. One man's misfortune, another man's luck. I am now selling this on ebay plus memory card and earphone here ... http://bit.ly/hDHxrW. I have two more on sale at ebay here... http://bit.ly/eV0zZh ... and here ... http://bit.ly/gLIiKh. I am selling 3 and I have upgraded to Touch Pro 2. Go with AT&T version as this can beused world wide on 3G in North America and is quad band GSM for use in rest of world)
WOW
Thanks Bud
I would change the batteries and really don't mind buying another one but the only problem is i am not in USA nor Canada except i give an address in the US to send it to.
PS: Got to the links and it was a bidding process that was over by the time i got there. If anything opens up you can holla at me.
Would get back to you if there are any new developments
WOW
Thanks Bud
I would change the batteries and really don't mind buying another one but the only problem is i am not in USA nor Canada except i give an address in the US to send it to.
PS: Got to the links and it was a bidding process that was over by the time i got there. If anything opens up you can holla at me.
Would get back to you if there are any new developments
Cheap battery on ebay ..
http://cgi.ebay.ca/New-Li-ion-Batte...652056?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5d2d297c58
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Battery-HTC-Wiza...163910?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item45f7ebb846
Phone
Wizards
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HTC-MDA-Mobile-S...0528835033?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item4cf50dc5d9