HardSPL doesn't seem to update SPL version - JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Software Upgrading

Hi I have a G4 Prophet and the IPL and SPL version number reads 2.10.0001.
I would like to flash it to use a WM6.1 ROM with the touchflo type functionality and new IE Mobile features (i.e. zooming).
I have read through all the guides about carrying this out and have even started having a go but am getting confused about HardSPL.
From what I read HardSPL CID Unlocks your phone so that you can install a diffeerent Carrier (e.g. Orange, Vodaphone) ROM ... or in fact a home 'cooked' ROM off of this site.
I have tried manually carrying out the HardSPL using both the Prophet Tools GUI and the command line batch file HardSPL however after the procedure finishes my IPL and SPL do not read differently as all posts indicate (i.e. they do not read 2.G4.4PDA) ... instead they remain as 2.10.0001.
I have seen the phone go to the tri-colour bootloader screen and even the progress bar go up correctly however when it reboots it says 2.10.0001. I'm assuming that I cannot go ahead and flash with a ROM (such as the Shadow TE one until the SPL reads 2.G4.4PDA).
Can anyone offere me some help with getting to this?
Many thanks.
Nick (a very much noob!)

nisgar2k said:
Hi I have a G4 Prophet and the IPL and SPL version number reads 2.10.0001.
I would like to flash it to use a WM6.1 ROM with the touchflo type functionality and new IE Mobile features (i.e. zooming).
I have read through all the guides about carrying this out and have even started having a go but am getting confused about HardSPL.
From what I read HardSPL CID Unlocks your phone so that you can install a diffeerent Carrier (e.g. Orange, Vodaphone) ROM ... or in fact a home 'cooked' ROM off of this site.
I have tried manually carrying out the HardSPL using both the Prophet Tools GUI and the command line batch file HardSPL however after the procedure finishes my IPL and SPL do not read differently as all posts indicate (i.e. they do not read 2.G4.4PDA) ... instead they remain as 2.10.0001.
I have seen the phone go to the tri-colour bootloader screen and even the progress bar go up correctly however when it reboots it says 2.10.0001. I'm assuming that I cannot go ahead and flash with a ROM (such as the Shadow TE one until the SPL reads 2.G4.4PDA).
Can anyone offere me some help with getting to this?
Many thanks.
Nick (a very much noob!)
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I would recommend you use something like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353547 It makes it a one stop upgrade... That uses "JumpSPL" rather than HardSPL which is the short term option.

Thanks for the help I tried the alternative lazy tool and it worked (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2141436&postcount=188) now my Orange SPV M600 has the Shadow Touch edition rom on it with the shadow cube addon, so far works a treat.
I would still be interested to know why the SPL version number did not change using the prophet tools or HardSPL on its own.
Anyway many thanks again.
Nick

nisgar2k said:
Thanks for the help I tried the alternative lazy tool and it worked (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2141436&postcount=188) now my Orange SPV M600 has the Shadow Touch edition rom on it with the shadow cube addon, so far works a treat.
I would still be interested to know why the SPL version number did not change using the prophet tools or HardSPL on its own.
Anyway many thanks again.
Nick
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What is your devices IPL?
It may be because Soft/Jump SPL was not executed properly prior to HardSPL (this is automated through the HardSPL tools and Prophet Tools).

HardSpl Problem
l3v5y said:
What is your devices IPL?
It may be because Soft/Jump SPL was not executed properly prior to HardSPL (this is automated through the HardSPL tools and Prophet Tools).
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i ran upgrade_hardspl_g4 on my prophet, my spl is 2.15 still... what should i do l3v5y? tried flashing it 5 times still no luck. Please help, having a hard time upgrading roms...
ipl: 2.20
spl: 2.15
im currently downloading prophet tools 2.8. i currently flashed my 818 with PV_temp rom. i'll try to install the prophet tools and hardspl my phone with it.. hope it works...will update in a few after the installation is done... downloading so slow... =(
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i did it!! thanks!!!

I made it, use SoftSPL.

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T-mobile MDA downgrade Ipl/Spl & WM6 Upgrade Issue

I followed Dr. Puttingham's thread and Yippie's thread to a tee in addition to reading threads in this forum for a good number of hours each day for two weeks. Yesterday, I became brave enough to downgrade my 2.26 Ipl / 2.26 spl; GSM 2.25.11; OS 2.26.10.2 MDA with a goal to upgrade to a custom WM6 rom with touchflo.
* Started with flashing the button rom then cid unlock with lockwiz2b which looked successful no errors but got a 1.xx IPL / 2.26 SPL since I got a 2.26 SPL then
* flashed the wizard love rom then then cid unlock with lockwiz2b which looked successful also but got the same results - a1.xx IPL / 2.26 SPL again then
* flashed the 2.26 T-mobile rom from the Tmobile website then
* flashed NBD 8.3 only to go back to Tmobile's 2.26 rom - DISAPPOINTED after two hours...............
Any assistance would be appreciated without bricking my MDA. Also, I read the thread on how to install a 2.x rom in a cid locked G3, this method appears a little bid complicated and if I need to move forward with this method, would this method work for any WM6 rom with touchflo and if somebody could simplify the method in layman's terms for newbie's like me could understand, please advice.
Let me know if I missed anything in the process.
Thanks, Technobuff
After u do cid unluck and sim unluck and its reboots do a downgrade again to the button rom and ur ipl and spl will change.(u do not have to re-due the onlucking procedure again)
I tried again performing Dr. Puttingham's CID unlocking process in terms of flashing the button rom then the CID unlock process using Lokowiz2b but while I am at the DOS screen trying to CID unlock my MDA it the DOS screen showed unlocking phone........DO NOT DISCONNECT UNTIL THE PHONE REBBOTS.
This process went on for 5 then 10 then past 30 minutes until I gave up. To be on the safe side I turned off the LAPTOP by taking the battery then pulled the USB cable from the PC to the MDA.
What is the typical timeframe for the unit to CID unlock? Why is is it hanging? Am I missing or skipping the process? How can I complete the process?
Any help would ber greatly appreciated by newbies who read threads.
Technobuff
The problem is that you need to have an IPL/SPL of 1.xx before you try to unlock your phone. CID unlocking will not change your SPL which means that you had an IPL of 1.xx and an SPL of 2.26 before you even tried to unlock. You need to reflash the button ROM over and over until your IPL and SPL both show 1.xx and then run lokiwiz.
dont get your point, i have been using shelltool for ages without any problems and quite a lot custom roms. my SLP/IPL is 3.08.
regards
irm
unlock problem
if your device doesn't reboot almost at once after the unlock, it probably didn't work. That is what happened to me. Did you get four lines of File cannot be opened or a similar message? I got that from following the 17 steps carefully. What was wrong for me was unzipping to the root directory of C:/. When I redid it to the desktop and executed from there, no problemo.
Your symptoms sound exactly like mine. I posted a longer thread, somewhere....
LH
Ok i did a little booboo and yesterday was using equinoxe's softspl tool by mistake (didn't notice i had a g3), this causes you to actually end up with the exact same os you had before you flashed.
The best advice I can give: Open the Dr's guide and follow every step closely. (also just found this guide. Its a bit simpler http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305225)
Once you CID unlock you should be able to use the RUUs to flash.
Make sure everytime you do any of the steps that dr. putt gives to be comepletely synced to activesync.
Also dont forget to load enablerapi.cab on your wizard.
Also you must use the unlock function before the cid unlock function in lokiwiz.
OH also the unlock will work after your ipl drops to 1.xx After you do the unlocks reflash button to drop the spl to 1.xx Then just flash up to a higher IPL/SPL as the Dr states.
If it seems unorganized im sorry =P
4irm said:
dont get your point, i have been using shelltool for ages without any problems and quite a lot custom roms. my SLP/IPL is 3.08.
regards
irm
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Umm I believe the IPL/SPL of 3.08 means your phone is unlocked... so you really shouldnt need to use shell tool. Some correct me if I'm wrong
slod said:
Umm I believe the IPL/SPL of 3.08 means your phone is unlocked... so you really shouldnt need to use shell tool. Some correct me if I'm wrong
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Just cause you have 3.08 does not mean you are unlocked..you could have upgraded a 2.xx ipl/spl without having downgraded and unlocked first.
thanks. helps me to learn stuff.
CID???
how wil i know if my fone mda vario is CID unlocked?
it is now installed with t-mobile 2.26 ROM
thanks.
rizortiz
famewolf said:
Just cause you have 3.08 does not mean you are unlocked..you could have upgraded a 2.xx ipl/spl without having downgraded and unlocked first.
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right, i installed the latest german t-mobile rom and my device is still locked. the point i made is why the hell does somebody want to downgrade? It doesnt matter if u use the shelltool.
regards
irm
4irm said:
right, i installed the latest german t-mobile rom and my device is still locked. the point i made is why the hell does somebody want to downgrade? It doesnt matter if u use the shelltool.
regards
irm
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Perhaps they want it actually cid unlocked for resale value...or perhaps they prefer the RUU method of installs vs having to use shelltool.

Vox Update SPL (USPL) 1.16

Hi guys,
I've just implemented a Vox USPL which allows you to flash any Vox ROM updates, i.e. you can flash any *official* ROM even if your phone's model and vendor ID doesn't match. It's confirmed that you can also flash cooked ROMs
This SPL is based on original Vox 1.16 SPL but includes 3 patches:
1) g_cKeyCardSecurityLevel = 0 (set 32)
2) Does not check Model & Vendor ID
3) Does not check signature*
(*) code must be formally signed i.e. contain properly-formatted signatures on the right places, however no checking is performed against them.
This means you can flash ANY ROM to your Vox after running USPL on it, no need to pay for CID unlock anymore!
The USPL will *not* help you to SIM unlock your device. You still have to pay for that.
The USPL runs in RAM and is *not* flashed to your device, so there is no risk there. Once it runs you can run any official Vox ROM update utility.
The USPL does *not* permanently CID unlock your phone, like the CID unlocker from imei-check or so.
After you flashed a ROM your phone is again CID locked. Each time you wonna flash a ROM with a different model and/or vendor ID (different from your phone) or a cooked ROM, you must run the USPL again and then flash the ROM.
It's beta and untested and the risk is entirely yours !! Don't blame me if you brick your phone
EDIT:
You can now also flash the USPL allowing you to flash any unsigned (cooked ROM or ROM module, e.g. radio or OS) or signed ROM with any model/vendor ID. The USPL substitutes your SPL until you perform a full ROM update. Consider it as an extra insurance in case something goes wrong with flashing cooked ROMs or any other ROM update !
Instructions:
1. Run the USPL (Vox USPL- CID BYPASS.zip)
2. Run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe (Vox-USPL-RUU.zip)
Have fun,
JockyW
The attachments:
SDA_ApplicationUnlock.zip : application unlocker if u need it
mtty1.42.zip : terminal emulator (not neccessary if u only do ROM updates, but if you wonna play with the bootloader commands you need it)
Vox-USPL-RUU.zip: flash version of USPL (Note: you must first run USPL from "Vox USPL- CID BYPASS.zip" before you can flash it with ROMUpdateUtility.exe from Vox-USPL-RUU.zip !!!)
Vox USPL- CID BYPASS.zip : instructions included
Credits: in particular to pof. This USPL and also the one for Excalibur is based on his USPL for the Elf. See here
I think this is one of the most fantastic news of the century!!!
Finally some cooking can start on this little device.
Thanks again,
Ka.
noob question
what the difference between sim unlock and cid unlock?
This can be found in various threads around here, anyway.
SIM Lock - You can't use a SIM from a different provider than the one who sold you the phone.
CID-Lock - You can't flash your phone with a ROM which hasn't been cooked by your provider (or manufacturer for HTC unbranded phones).
Ka.
jockyw2001 great but make one for htc oxygen pls.
htc s710 - rom
confirm this is working very gd
thanks for all yoru help and support to this fourm
hi, i tried the method described and when it runs haret my vox shuts down... and nothing happens, i have to turn it on myself.
madds said:
hi, i tried the method described and when it runs haret my vox shuts down... and nothing happens, i have to turn it on myself.
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Same here
anyone online right now wanna drop me a line about this... what do I do exactly with the ruu file. Do I place rom image in that folder while runnning update???
so i followed the instructions and executed the cid bypass(installed itsutils and haret). once i get to the end it says use mtty or flash with RUU. so I attempt to flash right after (am I supposed to flash while the screen is black) but its gives me a connections error. I figure its because the phone is off. So I turn it on and update with the RUU again but only make it to 3% before I get a invalid vendor id. Would anyone care to comment on how I can flash this vox to the dopod rom...
madds said:
hi, i tried the method described and when it runs haret my vox shuts down... and nothing happens, i have to turn it on myself.
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acid74 said:
Same here
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To the users who had the same problem as me I am currently flashing my phone and I managed to get past my problem by using the SDA Application unlocker on my vox. I always thought that HTC were already application unlocked. Was going crazy for a while but I guess I should've followed the instructions step-by-step regardless of what I thought.
Big up to jockyw2001(and of course pof for without him alot of us would still be using shipped rom) for this wicked tool.
Cheers
neptune said:
To the users who had the same problem as me I am currently flashing my phone and I managed to get past my problem by using the SDA Application unlocker on my vox. I always thought that HTC were already application unlocked. Was going crazy for a while but I guess I should've followed the instructions step-by-step regardless of what I thought.
Big up to jockyw2001(and of course pof for without him alot of us would still be using shipped rom) for this wicked tool.
Cheers
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Thanx man,last night i figured it out too......hows the dopod ROM??
acid74 said:
Thanx man,last night i figured it out too......hows the dopod ROM??
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I only got this phone so I could upgrade it for a friend to stop the boot loop. It seems to have fixed that problem so I guess it's better than the other roms. On the other hand I can't stand smartphone's so my suggestion is to ditch your SP and switch to PPC . Also I read before hand that this ROM doesn't include Windows Live Messenger but it is included in the rom. Just thought I'd let u guys know.
input please
Just ran into another problem and would appreciate some input. I understand that USPL only works for one flash...but I wasn't aware that a hard reset counted as a flash. Regardless my device hung at the dopod boot screen after a hard reset. Is this normal after using USPL on a device, and if so does this occur with all devices??? I would hate to give a phone back and have to tell the person that they can't perform a hard reset...
neptune said:
Just ran into another problem and would appreciate some input. I understand that USPL only works for one flash...but I wasn't aware that a hard reset counted as a flash. Regardless my device hung at the dopod boot screen after a hard reset. Is this normal after using USPL on a device, and if so does this occur with all devices??? I would hate to give a phone back and have to tell the person that they can't perform a hard reset...
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If you flash a full ROM the SPL is overwritten with the one in the ROM (Dopod = 1.19). Nothing to do with USPL. Booting can take a long time after hard reset. Unplug battery and try again.
jockyw2001 said:
If you flash a full ROM the SPL is overwritten with the one in the ROM (Dopod = 1.19). Nothing to do with USPL. Booting can take a long time after hard reset. Unplug battery and try again.
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Thanks, I got it to work eventually...Good to know USPL doesn't effect hard resets, I guess you learn something new everyday.
If I had to take a guess before hand I'd figure a SP would boot faster than a PPC, but I realize now that I'd be wrong...
thanks to all for the help, I can finally return this Vox back to its owner
cheers
Hi
I flashed my E650 in French with the swissrom (present on FTP), all works !
an idea to change the logo operator to HTC original ?
thanks
thought I fixed the problem. seems as if after a day it just hangs at the dopod screen. It was working fine everytime I had it. As soon as I give it back it seems to hang. Guess ima just flash it back to the HTC rom, too much hassle for just $20.
why SDA_ApplicationUnlock.zip can't unlock my Orange SPV E650?
Successful rom flash done on a spv e650 on a sim unlock device UK orange

Vox Update SPL (USPL) 1.34 - 1.35

hi,
I have just use the great work from jockyw2001 on the USPL 1.16 to make:
USPL 1.34 from RUU_Vox_HTC_FRA_1.34.406.1_4.1.13.54_03.10.90_Ship
USPL 1.35 from RUU_Vox_ORANGE_UK_1.35.61.1_4.1.13.60_03.18.90_Ship
Currently i use the RUU_Vox_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.1 and i have follow this thread
to upgrade from SPV650
use CID-Bypass 1.34 and RUU 1.34 to USPL 1.34
upgrade RUU IPL/USPL 1.35 with Vox-IPL-USPL-1.35.patched
All files have work for me, i hope this work for you to
Credits: pof and jockyw2001
This is still a soft SPL? What benefits does this serve over the previous uSPL by jocky?
lol~~~~
tested, both of USPL and hardSPL worked fine.
The hardSPL version is 1.35.0000Cy
Thank you for your great job.
h4waii said:
This is still a soft SPL? What benefits does this serve over the previous uSPL by jocky?
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I dont know the change between the SPL 1.16 and 1.34/1.35. The patch
method was strictly the same. This is just for people like me who want
everytime the last release
I see.
Well thanks for your work in patching the new SPL. Hopefully somebody can merge or sticky this thread.
which file should i use for hard SPL? will it work forever means i can update any VOX unofficial ROM without running any SPL later?
It works as long as you don't flash an official ROM. It doesn't really matter which one you use. 1.16 is working perfect on my device, so should these!
frauhottelmann said:
It works as long as you don't flash an official ROM. It doesn't really matter which one you use. 1.16 is working perfect on my device, so should these!
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1.16 is USPL means software SPL, i also use that to bypass CID and it needs to run everytime whenever you are flashing any ROM.
But my concern is if there is some Hard SPL and i run it on my VOX once, would i need to run USPL/HSPL again whenever i need to flash any ROM or will it work forever so that i can simply flash any ROM without using any SPL further.
If you FLASH uSPL instead of simply patching it through RAM, you will have an SPL that acts HARD until you flash an official ROM as it will overwrite the SPL since it is not a true HardSPL.
Take the same steps to patch uSPL and then instead of flashing your ROM, run FLASH.exe from within the uSPL directory, flash USPL and then flash your unofficial ROM. Patched uSPL will remain on the device and thus it will act as a HardSPL to any unofficial ROM and you will not need to patch SPL every time you flash an unofficial ROM.
Will this USPL allow me to flash an unofficial ROM on my Vox that has got the latest WM6.0 Orange UK ROM on?
Roland
Please help..
Hello, i have an Orange France SPV e650, every time i run sda application unlock thing it says "phone not unlockable" then it says succesfully unlocke, now it wasnt succesfully unlocked cos the flash does not work, stops at 3 percent.... Please help me I really look forward to ROM upgrade.
Thank you,
Sammy
BIG THANKS TO ChiemY
I can't believe how long it took me to solve this riddle lol. Was trying use Vox USPL- CID BYPASS for 1.16 and just took a lucky guess at using the number that seemed to be shown on the bootloader so often being 1.34 . It's my first time playing with WM HTC devices and it seems it will be smooth sailing from now on .
I flash HTC P3400 with Vox USPL and when phone restart that goes in blank screen, now it does not flsh anything, please help
I flash HTC P3400 with Vox USPL
I flash HTC P3400 with Vox USPL and when phone restart that goes in blank screen, now it does not flsh anything, please help
You have successfully bricked your device - may it rest in peace. The SPL is the part of SW that opens the door to other SW loading. If that does no more work you are lost.

Flashing rom Noob Help.

I am a noob at flashing and this may have been explained already but i need better clarification.
I had previous sim and cid unlock my phone which is an Att tilt to now function with the T-mobile network.
In my my tri-color screen I have:
KAIS1*0 MFG
Spl-1.0. OliPof
CPLD-8
My radio is R 1.27.12.11
I used Olipof Hard Spl from my understanding,but I want to flash a new rom preferably Dutty v4. What I wanted to know is do I use a new Hard Spl since the rom is current and if so do I have to go through the same process? Also how do I actually flash the rom?
Again I know noob questions I apologize and would really appreciate your help and patience.
tony612 said:
I am a noob at flashing and this may have been explained already but i need better clarification.
I had previous sim and cid unlock my phone which is an Att tilt to now function with the T-mobile network.
In my my tri-color screen I have:
KAIS1*0 MFG
Spl-1.0. OliPof
CPLD-8
My radio is R 1.27.12.11
I used Olipof Hard Spl from my understanding,but I want to flash a new rom preferably Dutty v4. What I wanted to know is do I use a new Hard Spl since the rom is current and if so do I have to go through the same process? Also how do I actually flash the rom?
Again I know noob questions I apologize and would really appreciate your help and patience.
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if you want to update your hardspl to one of the 3.** hardspls released by jockyw, you can. These hardspl's were released to get rid of the screen freezes reported by everybody using wm6.1 on the old hardspl's. If you have done hardspl flash before than use the same procedure to flash one of the newer hardspls.
Check dutty's thread for what hardspl he recommends. Most commonly advised are 3.29 and 3.28; i had 3.56 and never had any problems with any of the roms.
To flash the rom you have to make sure your device is connected to pc via activesync. Than basically you have to uncompress the rom rar that you downloaded from here. In your folder you will have a ruu_signed.nbh and a kaisercustomruu.exe. You start the flash process by clicking (or double clicking) on the kaisercustomruu.exe. MAKE SURE YOU PHONE IS CONNECTED TO PC when starting this process and battery life is atleast 50%.
Oh and you should always read the wiki to gain more insight related to your device as your question is asked quite often and before posting you SHOULD HAVE checked this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835

CID unlock 3.56?

Hey guys! been lurking around the forums for eons, but haven't 'dove in' till just recently. Have a couple of questions.
Some months ago I did the free upgrade to WinMO 6.1.
I got Tilt SID unlocked by calling up AT&T and telling them I was going to Europe. My T-mobile SIM card is working just fine.
After a few hours of cussing, I managed to beat HardSPL 3.56 into my phone, because it already had SPL 3.56 on it.
Now I'm stuck trying to CID unlock and I can't seem to find a utility to work with it. The 'chain' of threads I followed dead ended saying downgrade to get it work, but I don't want to do that. I had a hard enough time getting HardSPL 3.56 to install. Then I ran across Jockyw's CID unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837147 and found myself saying ooo and ahh! But, it won't work with ANY 3.xx HardSPL.
Is there a CID unlocker compatible with 3.56??
I'd love to have AT command mode stuff and etc. from jockyw's, but at this point I think I'll take whatever I can get without needing to downgrade.
I can't seem to find it now, but didn't there used to be a list of pre-cooked ROMs here somewhere?
I think what I'm aiming at is a fully patched / hacked 6.1 HTC ROM with everything fixed and no bugs. Preferably minus any bloatware. If it has recommended utilities pre-installed great, if not, no big loss. Did they ever finish hacking a video driver together? I lost track of that thread, and can't seem to find any current info.
I've been waiting for a working Linux distro for a HTC device for years, but I'm going to throw in the towel and make the best of what I can get on windows. I've spent over $3000 on these HTC devices over the years, but don't rely on them because of all the bugs. Once I get my Tilt patched up, I'm jumping ship and trading in my old ones for a G1.
Thanks for any help!
p.s. I DO have to CID unlock before I can install any other ROMs.. right??
p.p.s. Here's all the details if it's any help:
rom version 3.57.502.2 WWE
rom date 7/17/08
radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
tri-color screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
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.
Serial
image version 3.57.502.2
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05H
D 3.57.00.00
Note: This is BEFORE I updated to HardSPL 3.56
Thanks again!
If you have any of the HARD SPL installed(3.56 from your words).
You can flash any ROM you want.
No need to CID unlock separately.
With Hard SPL, your Device is CID unlocked already.
Your pda doesn't not have hard spl installed on it
Crogon said:
Hey guys! been lurking around the forums for eons, but haven't 'dove in' till just recently. Have a couple of questions.
Some months ago I did the free upgrade to WinMO 6.1.
I got Tilt SID unlocked by calling up AT&T and telling them I was going to Europe. My T-mobile SIM card is working just fine.
After a few hours of cussing, I managed to beat HardSPL 3.56 into my phone, because it already had SPL 3.56 on it.
Now I'm stuck trying to CID unlock and I can't seem to find a utility to work with it. The 'chain' of threads I followed dead ended saying downgrade to get it work, but I don't want to do that. I had a hard enough time getting HardSPL 3.56 to install. Then I ran across Jockyw's CID unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837147 and found myself saying ooo and ahh! But, it won't work with ANY 3.xx HardSPL.
Is there a CID unlocker compatible with 3.56??
I'd love to have AT command mode stuff and etc. from jockyw's, but at this point I think I'll take whatever I can get without needing to downgrade.
I can't seem to find it now, but didn't there used to be a list of pre-cooked ROMs here somewhere?
I think what I'm aiming at is a fully patched / hacked 6.1 HTC ROM with everything fixed and no bugs. Preferably minus any bloatware. If it has recommended utilities pre-installed great, if not, no big loss. Did they ever finish hacking a video driver together? I lost track of that thread, and can't seem to find any current info.
I've been waiting for a working Linux distro for a HTC device for years, but I'm going to throw in the towel and make the best of what I can get on windows. I've spent over $3000 on these HTC devices over the years, but don't rely on them because of all the bugs. Once I get my Tilt patched up, I'm jumping ship and trading in my old ones for a G1.
Thanks for any help!
p.s. I DO have to CID unlock before I can install any other ROMs.. right??
p.p.s. Here's all the details if it's any help:
rom version 3.57.502.2 WWE
rom date 7/17/08
radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
tri-color screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
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Serial
image version 3.57.502.2
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05H
D 3.57.00.00
Note: This is BEFORE I updated to HardSPL 3.56
Thanks again!
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I'm sorry to tell you that this:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
Is not hard spl and if you pda has hard spl installed is will say this:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.Hard
CPLD-8
I received my replacement Tilt 4 days ago from At&t and it came with WM6.1 and spl 3.56.0000 and you are right I cant find anything to change that spl. I have tried to CID UNlock and I get the white screen, so I tried jump spl 1.56 and 1.93 and neither one of them worked. So now I'm stuck with this 3.56.0000, I sent Jocky a PM and He told me that he was looking in to it and that he will get back to me. So I have to wait. Or maybe someone will read this that has a fix for this issue and help us.
I just bought my Tilt too, it also came with 3.56 and WM6.1 but I had NO problems unlocking and flashing hard SPL to it.
Now, what happens when you run Jump 1.93? and are you running it directly from your main memory NOT from a SD card, and no SD card is in the phone?
If you follow the directions EXACTLY it will work.
1 Run Jump SPL from your main memory
2 tri color boot screen saying jump 1.93 should show up, with USB at the bottom
3 Unplug your device wait 30 sec and plug it back in
4 In Active sync on your PC disable USB connections (I've actually flashed spl's without doing this)
5 Now run the customRUU with the hard spl file you want to upload.
BerettaFreak said:
I just bought my Tilt too, it also came with 3.56 and WM6.1 but I had NO problems unlocking and flashing hard SPL to it.
Now, what happens when you run Jump 1.93? and are you running it directly from your main memory NOT from a SD card, and no SD card is in the phone?
If you follow the directions EXACTLY it will work.
1 Run Jump SPL from your main memory
2 tri color boot screen saying jump 1.93 should show up, with USB at the bottom
3 Unplug your device wait 30 sec and plug it back in
4 In Active sync on your PC disable USB connections (I've actually flashed spl's without doing this)
5 Now run the customRUU with the hard spl file you want to upload.
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Yes I did all that I'm very familar with the process this is my 5th tilt 2 of them the CID Unlock run just fine and the other 2 I that to run jump 1.56 to get pass the white screen. But for some reason I cant get anything to work on this tilt. I even try to install the OG WM6.0 to try to downgrade the spl but that did work either. Do you have any other suggestions?
IIRC for me to run the CID unlocker program I needed to flash the SPL first.
What is happening when you are trying to run the Jump SPL files? It's just not making sense.
You need to flash Hard SPL 3.29 BEFORE you try to run the unlocker, you can't do 3.56 then try to unlock it. Once its unlocked then flash it with hard 3.56 if you so desire.
Also after doing the 3.29 spl you need the proper cracked radio flashed to allow you to unlock the device, are you skipping that step?
It sounds like your trying to do an SPL upgrade and NOT SIM unlock the device since that step comes after.
BerettaFreak said:
Also after doing the 3.29 spl you need the proper cracked radio flashed to allow you to unlock the device, are you skipping that step?
It sounds like your trying to do an SPL upgrade and NOT SIM unlock the device since that step comes after.
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No what I'm trying to do is CID Unlock my phone but is not working I get the white screen. I have tried everything I know to get pass it. I'm not trying to install hard spl 3.29 or 3.56. I have to CID Unlock my phone first right? That is what I've always done before. I'm out of ideas.
What is on your phone right now?
Factory SPL?
Factory 6.1 rom?
If so you need to run Oli's Sim Unlocker and CID Unlocker exe, this will FIRST flash a 3.29 hard SPL to your phone, THEN then next step is to flash a cracked radio and then you can sim and CID unlock your phone. As noted before tho a CID unlock is NOT necessary, if your Sim unlocked and Hard SPL'd you can do whatever you want to the phone.
BerettaFreak said:
What is on your phone right now?
Factory SPL?
Factory 6.1 rom?
If so you need to run Oli's Sim Unlocker and CID Unlocker exe, this will FIRST flash a 3.29 hard SPL to your phone, THEN then next step is to flash a cracked radio and then you can sim and CID unlock your phone. As noted before tho a CID unlock is NOT necessary, if your Sim unlocked and Hard SPL'd you can do whatever you want to the phone.
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Thank you very much for all your help BerettaFreak you are the man!
Heeey! Did my thread get hijacked?
Lol, Ok where to start..
skr_xd:
If you DON'T need to CID unlock, then the Newb instructions are a bit confusing. Why does it say to install HardSPL, then CID unlock?
What or why would I need to CID unlock separately? ..or is it the Security unlock bit, Or SuperCID that I'm still missing? There must be some point to it, Because Oli's Does HardSPL then SIM unlock, THEN CID unlock.
Vol22002:
I DID get HardSPL 3.56 installed. I used JumpSPL 1.56. DO remember to yank out the SD and SIM card. Note the very bottom of my post says those stats listed are BEFORE I installed HardSPL.
I still need some more help with finding a ROM, but I suppose that would be best addressed in a new thread, so I'll do that.
Thanks again!
Crogon said:
Lol, Ok where to start..
skr_xd:
If you DON'T need to CID unlock, then the Newb instructions are a bit confusing. Why does it say to install HardSPL, then CID unlock?
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CID Unlocking is done by installing the Hard SPL, the Hard SPL's don't check the Carrier ID (CID) when flashing new ROM's.
Crogon said:
What or why would I need to CID unlock separately? ..or is it the Security unlock bit, Or SuperCID that I'm still missing? There must be some point to it, Because Oli's Does HardSPL then SIM unlock, THEN CID unlock.
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SuperCID Set's your CID to 11111111, Security unlock removes an extra check when Flashing Radios to avoid you getting stuck on some radios.
Crogon said:
Vol22002:
I DID get HardSPL 3.56 installed. I used JumpSPL 1.56. DO remember to yank out the SD and SIM card. Note the very bottom of my post says those stats listed are BEFORE I installed HardSPL.
I still need some more help with finding a ROM, but I suppose that would be best addressed in a new thread, so I'll do that.
Thanks again!
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Just follow all the steps in the Guide by mskip and post and problems you have there. Understanding is not a pre-requisite, with that guide, you can figure out what all the steps do later...
Simply put:
HardSPL / CID Unlock / Super CID - Allows ROM's and Radio's to be flashed.
SIM Unlock - Allows you to use a foriegn SIM card
Security Unlock - Avoids problems when flashing some Radios.
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
SuperCID Set's your CID to 11111111, Security unlock removes an extra check when Flashing Radios to avoid you getting stuck on some radios.
Security Unlock - Avoids problems when flashing some Radios.
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Hey, thanks for the fast reply Dave!
Ok, So I COULD still Security unlock it, If I could find a security unlocker that worked with 3.56.
The bit about problems flashing radios sounds a bit like something that happens right before your phone becomes a brick. Could you point me to a resource about problem radios or how to avoid them?
I actually prefer to leave the radio alone, if I can get away with it. I just want a patched up ROM, as I mentioned earlier and in my new thread.
Anyway, If I end up needing to replace my radio, how do I avoid 'problem ones'. I understand that some radios simply don't work with some ROMs, but you seem to be eluding to something different here.
Thanks again!!
Crogon said:
Hey, thanks for the fast reply Dave!
Ok, So I COULD still Security unlock it, If I could find a security unlocker that worked with 3.56.
The bit about problems flashing radios sounds a bit like something that happens right before your phone becomes a brick. Could you point me to a resource about problem radios or how to avoid them?
I actually prefer to leave the radio alone, if I can get away with it. I just want a patched up ROM, as I mentioned earlier and in my new thread.
Anyway, If I end up needing to replace my radio, how do I avoid 'problem ones'. I understand that some radios simply don't work with some ROMs, but you seem to be eluding to something different here.
Thanks again!!
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To Security Unlock, just follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Then upgrade to HardSPL 3.56 again.
Security Unlocking is done by setting a flag in the NAND. It's permanent (unless you re-lock) and there are no comptability problems once it is set (you need to use a special Hard SPL to set it first though).
EDIT:
There is no list of known bad radio's - only the "Radio from Hell" 1.65.17.10 - but another Radio from hell could appear any day
Ta
Dave
Thanks for clearing that up Dave.
I think I'm going to opt to ignore the security unlock, since it sounds like it's on an 'as needed' basis.
I have 'batter fish to fry' at the moment. I'm grinding gears trying to figure out HOW to figure out which ROMs I should be looking into, in my other thread.
By the by guys, I was joking about the 'hijacked thread' thing, I'm sure somebody will find the info useful.
Just when i though I had this all figured out and was about to Flash my first ROM.
I have read and re-read the flashing wikis and am still confused.
If your on WM6 then you need to use Jockyw2001's Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1 right? But if you are on WM6.1 then you use Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer right?
Well I am currently on WM6 pro and dont want to upgrade to 6.1 just to use Olipro's program. So I would go with Jocky's right. Then people say you need to flash a HardSPL first before doing the SuperCID and Security Unlocker. But then in Jocky's directions it says Note that the security unlocker does not work with "SPL-3.28.Hard" and "SPL-3.29.Hard".
So what SPL do you start with.
And I know Dave already told me this earlier that since I have an AT&T Tilt and I am with AT&T service then I dont have to worry about SIM unlocking obviously. So can I skip the whole CID/SUPER CID/SECURITY UNLOCK routine. Can I just Flash HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56 and then start playing with ROMS till my hearts content or is all the security stuff really that neccessary?
So I am lost once again. Wow. I dont know why I am not getting this.
P.S. On another note, I am using AT&T Tilt with shipped ROM running WM6 pro. I have about 40-50 programs installed on it. When first setting up my phone I did the soft reset which supposedly gets rid of the bloatware. Anyways, with all my programs and it being the stock ROM I still have 62MB free PROGRAM RAM. I do however only have like 30MB Storage RAM. But 62MB of free PROGRAM RAM. I see people with naked ROMS that only get like 55MB of free PROGRAM RAM, is my phone like magic or something? Just curious as to how this may be possible.
asofiker said:
Just when i though I had this all figured out.
I have read and re-read the flashing wikis and am still confused.
If your on WM6 then you need to use Jockyw2001's Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1 right? But if you are on WM6.1 then you use Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer right?
Well I am currently on WM6 pro and dont want to upgrade to 6.1 just to use Olipro's program. So I would go with Jocky's right. Then people say you need to flash a HardSPL first before doing the SuperCID and Security Unlocker. But then in Jocky's directions it says Note that the security unlocker does not work with "SPL-3.28.Hard" and "SPL-3.29.Hard".
So what SPL do you start with.
And I know Dave already told me this earlier that since I have an AT&T Tilt and I am with AT&T service then I dont have to worry about SIM unlocking obviously. So can I skip the whole CID/SUPER CID/SECURITY UNLOCK routine. Can I just Flash HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56 and then start playing with ROMS till my hearts content or is all the security stuff really that neccessary?
So I am lost once again. Wow. I dont know why I am not getting this.
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There is a Hard SPL 1 by pof. Flash that first then follow Jocky's instructions.
Also the OliPro Security unlock isn't permenant, next time you flash a Radio it's gone.
Ta
Dave
Ok so Flash the Hard SPL 1 by pof
Then follow Jockys directions in using his Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1
Then Flash either HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56. WHichever I choose?
Then go crazy with playing with different ROMS.
P.S. So every time you Flash a HardSPL it overwrites the previous one? Or do you have to get rid of a HardSPL first before putting a new one on?
asofiker said:
Ok so Flash the Hard SPL 1 by pof
Then follow Jockys directions in using his Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1
Then Flash either HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56. WHichever I choose?
Then go crazy with playing with different ROMS.
P.S. So every time you Flash a HardSPL it overwrites the previous one? Or do you have to get rid of a HardSPL first before putting a new one on?
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Flashing a new SPL overrides the old one.
You said before you were happy with WM6.0, if so use either the pof Hard SPL v1 or the jockyw Hard SPL v1.1 (Part of the security unlock); if you are using WM6.1, use one of the jockyw or cmonex Hard SPL 3.**. Using the wrong version won't break your phone, but Windows will randomly freeze.
Ta
Dave
Thanks again Dave for helpin me out and not tearing me a new one. But just one last question.
If I find a new ROM that I want to Flash and it uses WM6.1 then I have to make sure that I flash a HardSPL 3.xx before flashing that new ROM, is that what ur saying?

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