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WM6.0 upgrade for the most inexperienced WM5.0 HTC prophet user.

Hi Friends,
I'm a very very fool and inexperienced QTEK S200 user.
I have never tried ROM update upto now.
Can any one guide me to update my QTEK S200 from WM5.0 to WM6.0 step by step.
Assume that I just know how to read and push the buttons.
Let me introduce my QTEK S200 to you.
ROM version: 2.20.7.21.WWE
ROM date: 7/10/06
Radio Version:02.40.21
Protocol Version: 4.1.13.20
ExtROM Version:2.20.7.101
IPL:2.20.0001
SPL:2.20.0001
I haven't done any modifications on locks and etc.
I don't know if it is cid locked or not.
I know that it is not gsm locked.
Thank you for you patience and time wasted for me and the guys like me.
You can send "step-by-step" guide to my e-mail if you want.
[email protected]

wow I didn't know there was a 2.20 prophet ipl around^^
if you take the smart crossbow rom:
1. hardreset (camera and recorder button und reset)
2. when you are back in align screen, (the screen were you have to klick on crosses on the display ) you leave it there and connect it to the computer
3. in the upcoming active sync window you press cancel to stay in guestmode
4. extract all the files from the exe you downloaded it into a folder
5. run upgraderom.bat or similar

I was going to say "hey mine is "
but then i checked and it isn't
cr0ssy said:
wow I didn't know there was a 2.20 prophet ipl around^^
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Could you please locate the .exe to be downloaded.
And places to download upgraderom.bat or similar applications.
Be sure I know NOTHING about upgrading.
Please behave like,
you are on the phone with a 12 yearsold child.
And you are trying to teach that child to safely land on a airbus.
cr0ssy said:
wow I didn't know there was a 2.20 prophet ipl around^^
if you take the smart crossbow rom:
1. hardreset (camera and recorder button und reset)
2. when you are back in align screen, (the screen were you have to klick on crosses on the display ) you leave it there and connect it to the computer
3. in the upcoming active sync window you press cancel to stay in guestmode
4. extract all the files from the exe you downloaded it into a folder
5. run upgraderom.bat or similar
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dionysos77 said:
Be sure I know NOTHING about upgrading.
Please behave like,
you are on the phone with a 12 yearsold child.
And you are trying to teach that child to safely land on a airbus.
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I wouldn't try to teach this child to land an airbus.. especially if that child doesn't want to listen and learn.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Upgrades

The link was great.
thank you.
Aaand it is time to chose a WM6.0 ROM ..
Any suggestions for the first trial.
Links for ROMs and related pathces (if required for charging or phone calls)
redandr said:
I wouldn't try to teach this child to land an airbus.. especially if that child doesn't want to listen and learn.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Upgrades
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dionysos77 said:
The link was great.
thank you.
Aaand it is time to chose a WM6.0 ROM ..
Any suggestions for the first trial.
Links for ROMs and related pathces (if required for charging or phone calls)
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just go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299069

And than it is getting confusing again.
The first link sent was very clear and easy to apply.
But the suggested link is 11 pages long threath with again so much problems etc.
What I try to do is to figure out comleted, step by step installation guide.
For example:
1-download xxxx.zip from www.xxxx.com
2-download yyyy.exe from www.yyyy.com
3-download zzz.cab , ttt.cab and kkk.cab
3-extract xxxx.zip to C:/xxxx you will have aaa.cab,bbb.dat and ccc.tmp
4-run yyyy.exe go file->open, select bbb.dat and open it.
5-.......
.....
....
Is there any body that can provide this information for newbies.
acer175 said:
just go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299069
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Use the first page to get the rom . use the second link to fix the problems you have. I'm not sure why you have to run wm6 as a newbie? I think you better off stay on wm5 aku 3.x or 2.x its less bleeding edge, hence less bugs to worry about. I admit, once you start upgrade roms, you became hooked, you start try all kinds of roms, and at that point you wont be a newbie anymore. In case you will ask me where are the wm5 roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1166781&postcount=1
Enjoy

thanks this would be the best way I think.
kenxu said:
Use the first page to get the rom . use the second link to fix the problems you have. I'm not sure why you have to run wm6 as a newbie? I think you better off stay on wm5 aku 3.x or 2.x its less bleeding edge, hence less bugs to worry about. I admit, once you start upgrade roms, you became hooked, you start try all kinds of roms, and at that point you wont be a newbie anymore. In case you will ask me where are the wm5 roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1166781&postcount=1
Enjoy
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I would write you a guide from heart, no problem. But the point is that every ROM has it's own installation-procedure!
Some use the upgrade.bat, while others use the RUU (ROMUpdateUltility.exe).
Some need to be installed from bootloader, other one's need to be installed from within the OS itself.
That's why everybody who wants to flash ROM's on his device should know the basics of flashing.
And all the basics can be found in the wiki, mentioned here before.
After learning the basics, choose a ROM you want to use.
Then you should start reading every topic related to this ROM from 1st to last post, like we all did when
we wanted to flash our first ROM!!
When you've read everything, you'll know exactly what to expect and what to do..

I decided to do so.
Even I have read related threads and deciden to open this thread to prepare a installation guide think it wont work because of the reasons that you mentioned.
I'll follow smart1's ROM page and after I belive in there is no fatal error on the rom I'll flash it to my prophet.
The only information that I neeed will be should I cid unlock my device or not.
I think I'll be able to find this info also.
After all I'll prepare some guides for newbies for the ROMs that I used.
and add as new threads here and in my language for our forums.
lo0m said:
I would write you a guide from heart, no problem. But the point is that every ROM has it's own installation-procedure!
Some use the upgrade.bat, while others use the RUU (ROMUpdateUltility.exe).
Some need to be installed from bootloader, other one's need to be installed from within the OS itself.
That's why everybody who wants to flash ROM's on his device should know the basics of flashing.
And all the basics can be found in the wiki, mentioned here before.
After learning the basics, choose a ROM you want to use.
Then you should start reading every topic related to this ROM from 1st to last post, like we all did when
we wanted to flash our first ROM!!
When you've read everything, you'll know exactly what to expect and what to do..
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dionysos77 said:
I'll follow smart1's ROM page and after I belive in there is no fatal error on the rom I'll flash it to my prophet.
The only information that I neeed will be should I cid unlock my device or not.
I think I'll be able to find this info also.
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You don't have to CID-unlock your device to flash (Prophet-)ROM's. Not the one's released here on xda-developers anyway.
grtz

Should not be a problem by now posting the same post three times!
Hundreds of people have managed to flash their device. Experienced as well as newbies. It's a little anoying to look at the latest posts and fined some multiple times. Yours is not more important then any other one!
If you realy want to do something with your device that's far from standard you also have to be willing to feed yourself with tons of info. Sure everybody would like a DIY document in their mailbox. But who will be held resonsable when you do something you don't even have a clue off?
Further if you think the WiKi is not clear enough to real newbies, then contribute to this forum and place your info in the WiKi so you can help others, like we all try to do here

Need WM6 Underground

Since morning i'm trying to find the link where i can download the WM6 undergroud version. Actually i tried installing WM6 Most beautiful, but i'm getting Update error [302] after 95% of installation. Mine is a G3 phone with IPL 2.26 and SPL 2.26
Thanks
Abhinandan

CID locked!

enggabhinandan said:
Since morning i'm trying to find the link where i can download the WM6 undergroud version. Actually i tried installing WM6 Most beautiful, but i'm getting Update error [302] after 95% of installation. Mine is a G3 phone with IPL 2.26 and SPL 2.26
Thanks
Abhinandan
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The dreaded 95% error... He's right. Your Wizard is still CID locked.
Follow this thread to get your device CID unlocked and then try flashing WM6 again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435

enggabhinandan said:
Since morning i'm trying to find the link where i can download the WM6 undergroud version. Actually i tried installing WM6 Most beautiful, but i'm getting Update error [302] after 95% of installation. Mine is a G3 phone with IPL 2.26 and SPL 2.26
Thanks
Abhinandan
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i remember the time, when people were able to search info BEFORE stupid moves...now, my dear users, we have dying moloch named internet.
gl.

everbody is lazy now
when i first staring updating my wizard. I read for a few days because I wanted to make sure it was done right. People read one post and then try to flash there phone only to mess it up. I guess they have alot of money to buy more phones.

tomred said:
when i first staring updating my wizard. I read for a few days because I wanted to make sure it was done right. People read one post and then try to flash there phone only to mess it up. I guess they have alot of money to buy more phones.
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If only we were all so rich... When I first started, I downloaded a WM6 Rom I found on this forum but read nothing... Tried to flash it, phone went to bootloader immediately afterwards and would do nothing else. I called T-Mobile and they sent me to the place on T-Mobile.com where I could get the official Rom download and was able to restore my MDA to life again but not until I had read about 20 different threads, did I attempt it again.
Thats the problem with some people here. They don't read and just assume that because they're a Software Dev that they automatically know everything or think that because they're pretty computer savvy that they know what they're doing or think that because they had their device for a few months that they're automatically an expert... It's annoying to tell you the truth because the only real way to learn is through a lot of reading, or trial and error and thats how everyone here has to learn.

I read this forum for a few MONTHS before I flashed my device, and I'm glad I did. Not only do you have to READ the information, but you also have give it time to SINK IN so that it is fully understood.
There are some people who automatically cry out for help without expending any effort (NOOBE needs help! give me a link, fix this, WAA WAA). And then there are the ones who make this a great forum, they READ READ and REREAD, TEST and RETEST and generally provide knowledge, information and assistance.
All of us are riding on the backs of the mostly unsung developers Like Faria, Bepe and all the others.

joemanb said:
I read this forum for a few MONTHS before I flashed my device, and I'm glad I did. Not only do you have to READ the information, but you also have give it time to SINK IN so that it is fully understood.
There are some people who automatically cry out for help without expending any effort (NOOBE needs help! give me a link, fix this, WAA WAA). And then there are the ones who make this a great forum, they READ READ and REREAD, TEST and RETEST and generally provide knowledge, information and assistance.
All of us are riding on the backs of the mostly unsung developers Like Faria, Bepe and all the others.
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Exactly,very true cudn't have said much better than this,had sleepless nights,doubts,fears an what if this and what if that happened,read and reread the forums for weeks and posting question,only when as you say 'give it time to SINK IN so that it is fully understood' YUP! GOT IT !!! SMOOTHLY
Dharvey
Dan I'M BACK!! MY WIZARD IS FIXED THANKS TO SOME GOOD OLD FASHION SOLDERING SKILLS...
Hey buddy I'm so pleased you got it done,CONGRATS man

Why the hell do you want Underground????!!!!!!!!
It's old, unstable and has soooo many bugs that have all been resolved in recent ROMs. Have you just had the forum on pda view then jumped at the first WM6 ROM post from the early days?

I'm not interested with the Underground WM6 but when MB_WM6 did not work, i thought of trying that.
I have a question here, i tried installing MB_WM6 and it stopped at 95%, later i tried to install Faria's kitchen ROM and it was successful. I tried unlocking the CID with lokowiz03. Do u people still feel that my phone is still CID locked.

enggabhinandan said:
I'm not interested with the Underground WM6 but when MB_WM6 did not work, i thought of trying that.
I have a question here, i tried installing MB_WM6 and it stopped at 95%, later i tried to install Faria's kitchen ROM and it was successful. I tried unlocking the CID with lokowiz03. Do u people still feel that my phone is still CID locked.
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Download WST tool and run it,it'll give all the info about your phone to determine the present status of your phone,only than it can be confirmed if it's cid locked or unlocked.
btw,faria's kitchen is for cooking the custom rom according to your own needs,it contains the Base Rom,OEM,RUU... and tools to build a rom.Did you cook your own Rom and flashed ?

joemanb said:
I read this forum for a few MONTHS before I flashed my device, and I'm glad I did. Not only do you have to READ the information, but you also have give it time to SINK IN so that it is fully understood.
There are some people who automatically cry out for help without expending any effort (NOOBE needs help! give me a link, fix this, WAA WAA). And then there are the ones who make this a great forum, they READ READ and REREAD, TEST and RETEST and generally provide knowledge, information and assistance.
All of us are riding on the backs of the mostly unsung developers Like Faria, Bepe and all the others.
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Well said my friend... This is is how it should be. I think there should be a rule that have to be a member for so many weeks before you can even post and access download links on the forum... This should give you time to read before you make a mistake and brick your phone...

Thanks....i will surely search for WST tool. If u could post the link of the WST tool that will be of great help.
Thanks
Abhinandan

Hey........i found the link and also downloaded it.......thanks for the info

i tried flashing buttons ROM twice. The IPL version and others except SPL got changed to older one....but SPL remained the same 2.21, should itry flashing the buttons ROM again and again till SPL get changed to 1.01

now i installed the Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102 also even then the SPL version 2.21 only, how shall i change that to older one

enggabhinandan said:
now i installed the Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102 also even then the SPL version 2.21 only, how shall i change that to older one
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do a soft reset of your phone , tap with stylus the soft reset button on the phone.the phone will reboot,see if it changes the spl,otherwise flash button's rom 1.05 a couple of more times and then do the soft reset,hope it'll change

Sorry...for posting the same info in a new thread......one more question here how to do a soft reset...is it by using ur WST tool. By keeping the power button pressed it will ask that device will be turned off....is this soft reset...or is there any other way to do

enggabhinandan said:
Sorry...for posting the same info in a new thread......one more question here how to do a soft reset...is it by using ur WST tool. By keeping the power button pressed it will ask that device will be turned off....is this soft reset...or is there any other way to do
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To perform a soft reset,use the stylus to lightly press and hold the RESET button on the left side of your device,it's a small hole type just underneath Infrared port,you just can't miss it,ok

I simply tried unlocking CID from lokowiz even though my IPL/SPL was 1.05/2.21. I got the below results .....in the result it says CID unlocked, can any senior person have a look at the output say was CID really unlocked
Type the letter and press Enter: C
CID unlocking mobile... DO NOT DISCONNECT UNTIL THE PHONE REBOOTS!
Copying C:\lokiwiz02_173\Utils\itsutils.dll to WCE:\windows\itsutils.dll
CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x10000, lock_backup.bin)
g=16: 314962fa - 121b40d192a81203
Key idx: 16
olddata: 55e9ed9a9ab801da460f100469464259621e8365aeb43277cf2858b925828379
newdata: 95ea23df0bf16432cf7be60912a5cbdedee342037c9d3bd3dee342037c9d3bd3
newsum=f6adec8d encsum=2ee6f10180a5c82d
This exe file was created with the evaluation version of Perl2Exe.
For more information visit http://www.indigostar.com
(The full version does not display this message with a 2 second delay.)
...
CopyFileToTFFS(cidunlocked.bin:0, 0, 00010000)
result=80072746
Your phone is now CID unlocked....
Store the generated 'lock_backup.bin' file in a safe place. It can help to resto
re your device if anything goes wrong.
ECHO is off.
"Standing on the shoulder of giants"
Ricardo Afonso, 2005

Place for Newbs to get Started-Want Tilt to Look Like Touch

Any advice? I am new to this whole thing. Have done some overclocking and what not on my PC, but this is a whole different game.
What types of things can I do without risking really f'ing things up?
What I hope is the simplest things I was hoping to do was to make my TILT screen look like the HTC Touch.
I thought about downloading Dutty's tweaks, but I am thinking I might be out of my depth starting out.
I would like to learn some things, but don't want to annoy the veterans that are here. Any direction would be appreciated.
Thank you.

What you could do is read, all the post people have put to do exactly what your asking. All the info is there you just need to search and read or use the wiki.
Have fun
-McMex

Thank you.

Download and run HardSPL on your phone from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Then choose a dutty rom to install, since you are on a tilt try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345385&highlight=dutty+tilt
This is all you have to do to have a fully functional htc looking rom with the touchflo cube with the newest drivers and radio for AT&T. I am using this one on mine right now. This rom has everything that you will probably need already installed. Anything else will just be for personal preferences. This rom has an advanced config program which is great but also download kaisertweak for some nice settings.

Thanks for keeping it simple for the newb. I read a couple of things about the "radio" portion being an issue. What does the "radio" tweak mean and will a HARD RESET fix problems if I decide to revert back?
decimusmaximus7 said:
Download and run HardSPL on your phone from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Then choose a dutty rom to install, since you are on a tilt try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345385&highlight=dutty+tilt
This is all you have to do to have a fully functional htc looking rom with the touchflo cube with the newest drivers and radio for AT&T. I am using this one on mine right now. This rom has everything that you will probably need already installed. Anything else will just be for personal preferences. This rom has an advanced config program which is great but also download kaisertweak for some nice settings.
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The radio that comes with this rom will be the one you need. A hard reset only reinstalls the rom you currently have on the phone so to revert back you will have to choose another rom and install it. As long as the rom you install is an AT&T one or one made for the tilt then you won't have to do anything with the radio. If you change and use an HTC ship rom or one of dutty's other roms then you will have to download another radio and install it. Radios self install the same way as roms do.
This is the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
On this page is the link to the ftp area where you could download the older radio if you decided to go to a non tilt rom.

Did you have any keyboard problems when doing the HARDSPL and installing the dutty rom. Also, which of the dutty roms did you install? Beta 2?

I am still on the Beta 1 and have been too lazy to changeover yet as Beta 1 is solid.
If you really want a good "How To" check out Mr. Van X:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php...ask=view&id=65&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=0
Every place he says "Hermes" you just think "Kaiser" or "Tilt". All the steps are the same. It is a great walk-through. He has you download the .net framework first. I know I didn't have it. Then he steps you through hardSPL and finally the ROM.
A few weeks ago I followed this exactly and have never had any troubles. Why a walk-through like this is not in the Wiki for the Kaiser/Tilt I have no idea. It'd be a lot more helpful to newbs (like myself) than the forum fav response, "Read Dammit".

Augster said:
It'd be a lot more helpful to newbs (like myself) than the forum fav response, "Read Dammit".
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Why don't you write an entry for the wiki? That's how the Wiki is updated and maintained, by contributions by everyone.

afavre said:
Any advice? I am new to this whole thing. Have done some overclocking and what not on my PC, but this is a whole different game.
What types of things can I do without risking really f'ing things up?
What I hope is the simplest things I was hoping to do was to make my TILT screen look like the HTC Touch.
I thought about downloading Dutty's tweaks, but I am thinking I might be out of my depth starting out.
I would like to learn some things, but don't want to annoy the veterans that are here. Any direction would be appreciated.
Thank you.
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I just used HardSPL and Dutty's Hybrid Rom No 5. I'm not sure what the difference is from his Tilt Beta version but I tried both and decided to go with the Hybrid. Point is, until last night I did not know what a Rom was. I read the forum and followed the directions. Here are links to what I used.
HardSPL (you need to do this first). Everything you need to know is in the first post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Then find a ROM. I downloaded several including the stock ATT rom just in case I decided to go back. The steps for loading a ROM are almost the same as HardSPL, just follow the directions on the screen.
This is a link to Dutty's Tilt Beta ROM (all you need is the link to the ROM at the bottom of the first post). If you want to try Dutty's Hybrid ROM, scroll to the 3rd post made by username "alltheway" and click on the red Hybrid No 5 Rom link in his signature block.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345385
It is very simple to do.

Do I need to SIM Unlock?
I have been reading through the posts, and I can't find if I must SIM lock my phone before trying to install Dutty's ROM. On my 8125 the general concensus was unlock both. I don't have any need to run other radio's on my phone, and I won't be traveling out of the US.
Also I am currently running SPB Pocket Plus 4.01. Should I do a hard reset before trying to CID unlock and load of new rom?

ShinySideUpAZ said:
I have been reading through the posts, and I can't find if I must SIM lock my phone before trying to install Dutty's ROM. On my 8125 the general concensus was unlock both. I don't have any need to run other radio's on my phone, and I won't be traveling out of the US.
Also I am currently running SPB Pocket Plus 4.01. Should I do a hard reset before trying to CID unlock and load of new rom?
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No you do not

Flash - What Went Wrong?

I've always fancied flashing my Kaiser (V1615) with a new ROM, but was always nervous because I wasn't sure of the process and didn't want to risk bricking the phone as well as all the effort needed to get everything back on it I needed. Well, a few days ago my old Kaiser met the floor and an untimely end. So I decided to take the risk and put a new ROM on it and decided on the latest Dutty WM6.1 ROM.
I read all about flashing on here and made as much sense of it as I could. Thing is, I'm very technical in general, but not very familiar with Windows Mobile or flashing. I found there was lots to read, but it was all written with an assumed level of knowledge and understanding of terminology. As a result I found it quite hard to understand. I took the plunge anyway and started, but things didn't work out as expected and I didn't understand why.
I'm not trying to be critical of all the work a lot of people have put into the documentation that is available online, it's just that when I originally approached this with zero flashing experience I found it difficult and confusing to understand. What I really needed was a concise and basic introduction to flashing. I've now been through the process and after re-reading the documentation it makes a lot more sense.
I worked out you need to run something called HardSPL before you could flash a new ROM. I'm still not sure what HardSPL does apart from CID unlock the device, but what does CID unlock mean?
I ran HardSPL v1 and it started ok, but then I ended up with a white screen. At this point I already wished I hadn't started, but no going back now. Is it known why some phones white screen? Turns out it's a common problem, so followed the instructions to recover. All was well again, but still with the original ROM.
I thought I'd be brave and stuck with it and this time tried JumpSPL1.56-KAIS instead of HardSPL as recommended on one of the tutorials. This went better and I ended up with the Tri-Color screen. I plugged my USB cable in and USB showed on screen.
Next step I thought was to flash a ROM onto the device. I ran the Dutty updater on my PC and all started ok, but when the update got to 18% I received a communication error. I tried to recover using the updater, but the same thing happened. At this point the phone wouldn't boot, so I was more than a little worried and wishing I hadn't started!
Found something that described several options for recovering from this problem. I decided to try and flash the device back to the original ROM from Vodafone. When I eventually found that ROM I ran JumpSPL again, got to the Tri-Color screen and ran the updater. This time the update completed successfully and the phone rebooted and was all working again.
I decided to leave the device as it was and started customising it myself. I'd still love to put a cooked ROM on there, especially if it helps with performance, but after the experience above I'm not very confident.
Can anyone tell me where or what went wrong? I'm going to get my old Kaiser repaired and want to try again on that phone.

My flashing routene (not ideal but it works for me)
1) run the first part of the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
2) after device reboots, hold camera button and restart to check SPL
3) Flash rom/radio of choice
4) Follow HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW 's second guide "If you have problems with the above process, try this:" and flash my 3.XX SPL of choice.
Sam

Wow, I need a cuppa now
I'll go through 1 at a time... (and Sam has answered some questions already)
-CID unlock means that when the phone is loading a new device into the ROM the Carrier ID check is removed, each Mobile phone carrier has a different CID in thier OS ROMs. Unlocked means you can flash a OS ROM from any carrier or a cooked OS ROM from this site.
-The Jump SPL should only be used for replacing the SPL. Do not flash anything other than SPL's when at the Jump SPL (or SSPL). OS and Radio ROMs should be flashed from either in Windows Or By Manually Entering the Bootloaders. More info on SPL's is here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
-Have a look at flashing from SD Card to avoid communication problems, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
-The most clear instructions can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Hope this helps.
Dave

Thanks for the advice, but this is what I normally encounter when I read something on here, which is advice which no doubt makes perfect sense to the author or others experienced in flashing, but usually raises more questions than it answers in my head.
For example;
1) run the first part of the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
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What do you mean by the "first part"? The thread you've linked to doesnt really explain what I'm downloading and doing.
2) after device reboots, hold camera button and restart to check SPL
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Ok. I get this assuming you mean the device will reboot automatically and I restart it to check the SPL version that gets shown on the boot screen, but why do I need to do this?
3) Flash rom/radio of choice
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So at this point I can simply plug my device into my PC and run the ROM updater I've downloaded. Working out what rom/radio version to download is a minefield in its own right.
4) Follow HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW 's second guide "If you have problems with the above process, try this:" and flash my 3.XX SPL of choice.
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I thought HardSPL needed to be run before I flashed? Also, why the different versions? Which one do I choose?

BTW, not trying to moan about everything, just posting my experiences to find out where I went wrong, but also highlight some issues hopefully other flashing newbies can relate to and authors of tutorials can draw some useful feedback from.

Only one question, do I need to CID Unlock before using Jump and HardSpl or, the Hardspl does the Supercid ?
I'm not referring about SIM since I don't care, for now
With WM6.1 - Oficiall HTC ROM
Thanks

Thanks for that one dave, on reflection i kinda missed the whole point of the thread, and as for the majority of the stuff you posted i didnt undertand that to begin with.
Also, DaveTME, if you are wanting to flash a custom rom to youre kaiser. from my experiance and from the number of times ive seen this happen. i advise against asking for reccomendations(sp?) (not saying you will but its worth saying) try a few roms out and decide from there.
Also another thing to note. if you flash to WM6.1 remember to use a 3.xx spl otherwise you'll encounter a few problems with youre device.
Sam
What do you mean by the "first part"? The thread you've linked to doesnt really explain what I'm downloading and doing.
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download the Kaiser unlocker and run the first stage of it, the program is in the linked thread.
Ok. I get this assuming you mean the device will reboot automatically and I restart it to check the SPL version that gets shown on the boot screen, but why do I need to do this?
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No, after the device reboots, youre given youre Rom, Protocol and Radio. if you hold the camera button and reset you'll get youre SPL displayed, youre looking for 1.01 olinex to be shown
So at this point I can simply plug my device into my PC and run the ROM updater I've downloaded. Working out what rom/radio version to download is a minefield in its own right.
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1) Yes, just run the RUU with youre chosen rom and thats it
2) its not a minefield, just make a decision on what rom you like and flash it. theres nothing to stop you flashing another one.
I thought HardSPL needed to be run before I flashed? Also, why the different versions? Which one do I choose?
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The 1.01 SPL will allow you to flash a cutom rom. following that you need a 3.xx SPL as they are designed for windows mobile 6.1. as for yure decision. i use 3.29, yet other users have had better sucess with 3.56. Most rom chefs will say which SPL they reccomend anyway with their rom.

-CID unlock means that when the phone is loading a new device into the ROM the Carrier ID check is removed, each Mobile phone carrier has a different CID in thier OS ROMs. Unlocked means you can flash a OS ROM from any carrier or a cooked OS ROM from this site.
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Great. Thanks for that. Makes perfect sense now
-The Jump SPL should only be used for replacing the SPL. Do not flash anything other than SPL's when at the Jump SPL (or SSPL). OS and Radio ROMs should be flashed from either in Windows Or By Manually Entering the Bootloaders. More info on SPL's is here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
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Ok. I think you mean that the SPL is a component on the device? What is the difference between HardSPL and JumpSPL?
-Have a look at flashing from SD Card to avoid communication problems, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
-The most clear instructions can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Hope this helps.
Dave
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Thanks, will have a read

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Ok. I think you mean that the SPL is a component on the device? What is the difference between HardSPL and JumpSPL?
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Read the "SPL Questions" Wiki Page, it is all there and fairly clear.
Ta
Dave

now what??

i use t mob usa and already have an unlock tilt with the at&t rom (i think) it boots up showing the at&t logo and has a lot of at&t files. i want to load a new rom and have seen the rom for noobies thread but was wonder if i needed to do steps 1 - 3 or can i just download and load the rom without losing my lock and turning my phone into a brick. my friend has a dutty screen. any suggestions on a nice rom?

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i use t mob usa and already have an unlock tilt with the at&t rom (i think) it boots up showing the at&t logo and has a lot of at&t files. i want to load a new rom and have seen the rom for noobies thread but was wonder if i needed to do steps 1 - 3 or can i just download and load the rom without losing my lock and turning my phone into a brick. my friend has a dutty screen. any suggestions on a nice rom?
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If you are already using that phone with T-Mo, then security unlock, hard spl and flash away! The best thing to do here is read read read! And dont be suprised if they move your thread! You can PM me though if you have any more questions! I will help you if I can!

sorry, just so that i dont turn my phone into a brick but what you are saying is that i can just flash my rom without any other steps.
thanks for the quick response.

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sorry, just so that i dont turn my phone into a brick but what you are saying is that i can just flash my rom without any other steps.
thanks for the quick response.
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As far as what you mean by " lose my lock" I am not sure, but, you will need to CID unlock and hard-spl for sure! Do you have the AT&T Windows Mobile 6 or 6.1? I canot stress how important it is to read everything you can and be as informed as possible before you flash! I dont want to sound like I dont want to help (thats why we are here) But If you are already SIM unlocked it would still be wise to follow all the steps just to make sure you are covering all your bases, after all we do love our phones alot (often brought up by my sometimes jealous girlfriend! LOL! Read and use this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583
Then if you get white screen dont panic just reset and go here follow instructions then go back and do the first one....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061

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As far as what you mean by " lose my lock" I am not sure, but, you will need to CID unlock and hard-spl for sure! Do you have the AT&T Windows Mobile 6 or 6.1? I canot stress how important it is to read everything you can and be as informed as possible before you flash! I dont want to sound like I dont want to help (thats why we are here) But If you are already SIM unlocked it would still be wise to follow all the steps just to make sure you are covering all your bases, after all we do love our phones alot (often brought up by my sometimes jealous girlfriend! LOL!
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i have att windows 6.0. its already unlocked and i'm using on tmobile. what is
Hard-SPL? is this a file i should see on my phone?

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i have att windows 6.0. its already unlocked and i'm using on tmobile. what is
Hard-SPL? is this a file i should see on my phone?
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No SPL is the bootloader on your phone when you hard SPL it keeps you from bricking your phone and allows you to flash non oem ROMs! If you Follow and read the links I just posted for you, you will be fine! I also use T-Mobile on a Tilt and I followed the steps and read alot and everything worked out perfect! I had to do the whitescreen fix, so it does work! I hope that helps!
P.S. Follow the instructions step by step, they are very important! Time consuming but worth it!

thank you very much

Please re-read the Newbies threads if you need an explanation as to what HardSPL is and how to install it and then flash a ROM. If you merely SIM unlocked to get on to T-Mobile, you will still need to CID unlock, so as a precaution you should do EVERYTHING in the newbies guide. Also, instead of just asking what HardSPL is, try following the links provided.
The community tends to be much more helpful when you have done your research and taken initative before asking for a direct hand out. This thread is better than average, but I thought I'd give you the heads up before flames come in from others.
Do everything here, all of it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Also note, the steps saying to remove your SIM and SD cards are very important.

Travito said:
Please re-read the Newbies threads if you need an explanation as to what HardSPL is and how to install it and then flash a ROM. If you merely SIM unlocked to get on to T-Mobile, you will still need to CID unlock, so as a precaution you should do EVERYTHING in the newbies guide. Also, instead of just asking what HardSPL is, try following the links provided.
The community tends to be much more helpful when you have done your research and taken initative before asking for a direct hand out. This thread is better than average, but I thought I'd give you the heads up before flames come in from others.
Do everything here, all of it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Also note, the steps saying to remove your SIM and SD cards are very important.
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thank u flashed it already.......sorry for the simple question re: hard spl.

HardSPL
Follow the tutorials. Get Hard SPL. Don't cut corners, you may brick your phone. Hard SPL will allow you to flash basically worry free.
It's great that your phone is unlocked, but that doesn't mean you can't brick it. I'd try to explain in greater detail, but the sticky posts at the top of this forum should be much better at it than I am.

Please post your questions in one of the threads already created. No need to create a new thread for random new questions.