WM6.0 upgrade for the most inexperienced WM5.0 HTC prophet user. - JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Software Upgrading

Hi Friends,
I'm a very very fool and inexperienced QTEK S200 user.
I have never tried ROM update upto now.
Can any one guide me to update my QTEK S200 from WM5.0 to WM6.0 step by step.
Assume that I just know how to read and push the buttons.
Let me introduce my QTEK S200 to you.
ROM version: 2.20.7.21.WWE
ROM date: 7/10/06
Radio Version:02.40.21
Protocol Version: 4.1.13.20
ExtROM Version:2.20.7.101
IPL:2.20.0001
SPL:2.20.0001
I haven't done any modifications on locks and etc.
I don't know if it is cid locked or not.
I know that it is not gsm locked.
Thank you for you patience and time wasted for me and the guys like me.
You can send "step-by-step" guide to my e-mail if you want.
[email protected]

wow I didn't know there was a 2.20 prophet ipl around^^
if you take the smart crossbow rom:
1. hardreset (camera and recorder button und reset)
2. when you are back in align screen, (the screen were you have to klick on crosses on the display ) you leave it there and connect it to the computer
3. in the upcoming active sync window you press cancel to stay in guestmode
4. extract all the files from the exe you downloaded it into a folder
5. run upgraderom.bat or similar

I was going to say "hey mine is "
but then i checked and it isn't
cr0ssy said:
wow I didn't know there was a 2.20 prophet ipl around^^
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Could you please locate the .exe to be downloaded.
And places to download upgraderom.bat or similar applications.
Be sure I know NOTHING about upgrading.
Please behave like,
you are on the phone with a 12 yearsold child.
And you are trying to teach that child to safely land on a airbus.
cr0ssy said:
wow I didn't know there was a 2.20 prophet ipl around^^
if you take the smart crossbow rom:
1. hardreset (camera and recorder button und reset)
2. when you are back in align screen, (the screen were you have to klick on crosses on the display ) you leave it there and connect it to the computer
3. in the upcoming active sync window you press cancel to stay in guestmode
4. extract all the files from the exe you downloaded it into a folder
5. run upgraderom.bat or similar
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dionysos77 said:
Be sure I know NOTHING about upgrading.
Please behave like,
you are on the phone with a 12 yearsold child.
And you are trying to teach that child to safely land on a airbus.
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I wouldn't try to teach this child to land an airbus.. especially if that child doesn't want to listen and learn.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Upgrades

The link was great.
thank you.
Aaand it is time to chose a WM6.0 ROM ..
Any suggestions for the first trial.
Links for ROMs and related pathces (if required for charging or phone calls)
redandr said:
I wouldn't try to teach this child to land an airbus.. especially if that child doesn't want to listen and learn.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Upgrades
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dionysos77 said:
The link was great.
thank you.
Aaand it is time to chose a WM6.0 ROM ..
Any suggestions for the first trial.
Links for ROMs and related pathces (if required for charging or phone calls)
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just go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299069

And than it is getting confusing again.
The first link sent was very clear and easy to apply.
But the suggested link is 11 pages long threath with again so much problems etc.
What I try to do is to figure out comleted, step by step installation guide.
For example:
1-download xxxx.zip from www.xxxx.com
2-download yyyy.exe from www.yyyy.com
3-download zzz.cab , ttt.cab and kkk.cab
3-extract xxxx.zip to C:/xxxx you will have aaa.cab,bbb.dat and ccc.tmp
4-run yyyy.exe go file->open, select bbb.dat and open it.
5-.......
.....
....
Is there any body that can provide this information for newbies.
acer175 said:
just go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299069
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Use the first page to get the rom . use the second link to fix the problems you have. I'm not sure why you have to run wm6 as a newbie? I think you better off stay on wm5 aku 3.x or 2.x its less bleeding edge, hence less bugs to worry about. I admit, once you start upgrade roms, you became hooked, you start try all kinds of roms, and at that point you wont be a newbie anymore. In case you will ask me where are the wm5 roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1166781&postcount=1
Enjoy

thanks this would be the best way I think.
kenxu said:
Use the first page to get the rom . use the second link to fix the problems you have. I'm not sure why you have to run wm6 as a newbie? I think you better off stay on wm5 aku 3.x or 2.x its less bleeding edge, hence less bugs to worry about. I admit, once you start upgrade roms, you became hooked, you start try all kinds of roms, and at that point you wont be a newbie anymore. In case you will ask me where are the wm5 roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1166781&postcount=1
Enjoy
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I would write you a guide from heart, no problem. But the point is that every ROM has it's own installation-procedure!
Some use the upgrade.bat, while others use the RUU (ROMUpdateUltility.exe).
Some need to be installed from bootloader, other one's need to be installed from within the OS itself.
That's why everybody who wants to flash ROM's on his device should know the basics of flashing.
And all the basics can be found in the wiki, mentioned here before.
After learning the basics, choose a ROM you want to use.
Then you should start reading every topic related to this ROM from 1st to last post, like we all did when
we wanted to flash our first ROM!!
When you've read everything, you'll know exactly what to expect and what to do..

I decided to do so.
Even I have read related threads and deciden to open this thread to prepare a installation guide think it wont work because of the reasons that you mentioned.
I'll follow smart1's ROM page and after I belive in there is no fatal error on the rom I'll flash it to my prophet.
The only information that I neeed will be should I cid unlock my device or not.
I think I'll be able to find this info also.
After all I'll prepare some guides for newbies for the ROMs that I used.
and add as new threads here and in my language for our forums.
lo0m said:
I would write you a guide from heart, no problem. But the point is that every ROM has it's own installation-procedure!
Some use the upgrade.bat, while others use the RUU (ROMUpdateUltility.exe).
Some need to be installed from bootloader, other one's need to be installed from within the OS itself.
That's why everybody who wants to flash ROM's on his device should know the basics of flashing.
And all the basics can be found in the wiki, mentioned here before.
After learning the basics, choose a ROM you want to use.
Then you should start reading every topic related to this ROM from 1st to last post, like we all did when
we wanted to flash our first ROM!!
When you've read everything, you'll know exactly what to expect and what to do..
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dionysos77 said:
I'll follow smart1's ROM page and after I belive in there is no fatal error on the rom I'll flash it to my prophet.
The only information that I neeed will be should I cid unlock my device or not.
I think I'll be able to find this info also.
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You don't have to CID-unlock your device to flash (Prophet-)ROM's. Not the one's released here on xda-developers anyway.
grtz

Should not be a problem by now posting the same post three times!
Hundreds of people have managed to flash their device. Experienced as well as newbies. It's a little anoying to look at the latest posts and fined some multiple times. Yours is not more important then any other one!
If you realy want to do something with your device that's far from standard you also have to be willing to feed yourself with tons of info. Sure everybody would like a DIY document in their mailbox. But who will be held resonsable when you do something you don't even have a clue off?
Further if you think the WiKi is not clear enough to real newbies, then contribute to this forum and place your info in the WiKi so you can help others, like we all try to do here

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Need WM6 Underground

Since morning i'm trying to find the link where i can download the WM6 undergroud version. Actually i tried installing WM6 Most beautiful, but i'm getting Update error [302] after 95% of installation. Mine is a G3 phone with IPL 2.26 and SPL 2.26
Thanks
Abhinandan
CID locked!
enggabhinandan said:
Since morning i'm trying to find the link where i can download the WM6 undergroud version. Actually i tried installing WM6 Most beautiful, but i'm getting Update error [302] after 95% of installation. Mine is a G3 phone with IPL 2.26 and SPL 2.26
Thanks
Abhinandan
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The dreaded 95% error... He's right. Your Wizard is still CID locked.
Follow this thread to get your device CID unlocked and then try flashing WM6 again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
enggabhinandan said:
Since morning i'm trying to find the link where i can download the WM6 undergroud version. Actually i tried installing WM6 Most beautiful, but i'm getting Update error [302] after 95% of installation. Mine is a G3 phone with IPL 2.26 and SPL 2.26
Thanks
Abhinandan
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i remember the time, when people were able to search info BEFORE stupid moves...now, my dear users, we have dying moloch named internet.
gl.
everbody is lazy now
when i first staring updating my wizard. I read for a few days because I wanted to make sure it was done right. People read one post and then try to flash there phone only to mess it up. I guess they have alot of money to buy more phones.
tomred said:
when i first staring updating my wizard. I read for a few days because I wanted to make sure it was done right. People read one post and then try to flash there phone only to mess it up. I guess they have alot of money to buy more phones.
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If only we were all so rich... When I first started, I downloaded a WM6 Rom I found on this forum but read nothing... Tried to flash it, phone went to bootloader immediately afterwards and would do nothing else. I called T-Mobile and they sent me to the place on T-Mobile.com where I could get the official Rom download and was able to restore my MDA to life again but not until I had read about 20 different threads, did I attempt it again.
Thats the problem with some people here. They don't read and just assume that because they're a Software Dev that they automatically know everything or think that because they're pretty computer savvy that they know what they're doing or think that because they had their device for a few months that they're automatically an expert... It's annoying to tell you the truth because the only real way to learn is through a lot of reading, or trial and error and thats how everyone here has to learn.
I read this forum for a few MONTHS before I flashed my device, and I'm glad I did. Not only do you have to READ the information, but you also have give it time to SINK IN so that it is fully understood.
There are some people who automatically cry out for help without expending any effort (NOOBE needs help! give me a link, fix this, WAA WAA). And then there are the ones who make this a great forum, they READ READ and REREAD, TEST and RETEST and generally provide knowledge, information and assistance.
All of us are riding on the backs of the mostly unsung developers Like Faria, Bepe and all the others.
joemanb said:
I read this forum for a few MONTHS before I flashed my device, and I'm glad I did. Not only do you have to READ the information, but you also have give it time to SINK IN so that it is fully understood.
There are some people who automatically cry out for help without expending any effort (NOOBE needs help! give me a link, fix this, WAA WAA). And then there are the ones who make this a great forum, they READ READ and REREAD, TEST and RETEST and generally provide knowledge, information and assistance.
All of us are riding on the backs of the mostly unsung developers Like Faria, Bepe and all the others.
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Exactly,very true cudn't have said much better than this,had sleepless nights,doubts,fears an what if this and what if that happened,read and reread the forums for weeks and posting question,only when as you say 'give it time to SINK IN so that it is fully understood' YUP! GOT IT !!! SMOOTHLY
Dharvey
Dan I'M BACK!! MY WIZARD IS FIXED THANKS TO SOME GOOD OLD FASHION SOLDERING SKILLS...
Hey buddy I'm so pleased you got it done,CONGRATS man
Why the hell do you want Underground????!!!!!!!!
It's old, unstable and has soooo many bugs that have all been resolved in recent ROMs. Have you just had the forum on pda view then jumped at the first WM6 ROM post from the early days?
I'm not interested with the Underground WM6 but when MB_WM6 did not work, i thought of trying that.
I have a question here, i tried installing MB_WM6 and it stopped at 95%, later i tried to install Faria's kitchen ROM and it was successful. I tried unlocking the CID with lokowiz03. Do u people still feel that my phone is still CID locked.
enggabhinandan said:
I'm not interested with the Underground WM6 but when MB_WM6 did not work, i thought of trying that.
I have a question here, i tried installing MB_WM6 and it stopped at 95%, later i tried to install Faria's kitchen ROM and it was successful. I tried unlocking the CID with lokowiz03. Do u people still feel that my phone is still CID locked.
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Download WST tool and run it,it'll give all the info about your phone to determine the present status of your phone,only than it can be confirmed if it's cid locked or unlocked.
btw,faria's kitchen is for cooking the custom rom according to your own needs,it contains the Base Rom,OEM,RUU... and tools to build a rom.Did you cook your own Rom and flashed ?
joemanb said:
I read this forum for a few MONTHS before I flashed my device, and I'm glad I did. Not only do you have to READ the information, but you also have give it time to SINK IN so that it is fully understood.
There are some people who automatically cry out for help without expending any effort (NOOBE needs help! give me a link, fix this, WAA WAA). And then there are the ones who make this a great forum, they READ READ and REREAD, TEST and RETEST and generally provide knowledge, information and assistance.
All of us are riding on the backs of the mostly unsung developers Like Faria, Bepe and all the others.
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Well said my friend... This is is how it should be. I think there should be a rule that have to be a member for so many weeks before you can even post and access download links on the forum... This should give you time to read before you make a mistake and brick your phone...
Thanks....i will surely search for WST tool. If u could post the link of the WST tool that will be of great help.
Thanks
Abhinandan
Hey........i found the link and also downloaded it.......thanks for the info
i tried flashing buttons ROM twice. The IPL version and others except SPL got changed to older one....but SPL remained the same 2.21, should itry flashing the buttons ROM again and again till SPL get changed to 1.01
now i installed the Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102 also even then the SPL version 2.21 only, how shall i change that to older one
enggabhinandan said:
now i installed the Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102 also even then the SPL version 2.21 only, how shall i change that to older one
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do a soft reset of your phone , tap with stylus the soft reset button on the phone.the phone will reboot,see if it changes the spl,otherwise flash button's rom 1.05 a couple of more times and then do the soft reset,hope it'll change
Sorry...for posting the same info in a new thread......one more question here how to do a soft reset...is it by using ur WST tool. By keeping the power button pressed it will ask that device will be turned off....is this soft reset...or is there any other way to do
enggabhinandan said:
Sorry...for posting the same info in a new thread......one more question here how to do a soft reset...is it by using ur WST tool. By keeping the power button pressed it will ask that device will be turned off....is this soft reset...or is there any other way to do
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To perform a soft reset,use the stylus to lightly press and hold the RESET button on the left side of your device,it's a small hole type just underneath Infrared port,you just can't miss it,ok
I simply tried unlocking CID from lokowiz even though my IPL/SPL was 1.05/2.21. I got the below results .....in the result it says CID unlocked, can any senior person have a look at the output say was CID really unlocked
Type the letter and press Enter: C
CID unlocking mobile... DO NOT DISCONNECT UNTIL THE PHONE REBOOTS!
Copying C:\lokiwiz02_173\Utils\itsutils.dll to WCE:\windows\itsutils.dll
CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x10000, lock_backup.bin)
g=16: 314962fa - 121b40d192a81203
Key idx: 16
olddata: 55e9ed9a9ab801da460f100469464259621e8365aeb43277cf2858b925828379
newdata: 95ea23df0bf16432cf7be60912a5cbdedee342037c9d3bd3dee342037c9d3bd3
newsum=f6adec8d encsum=2ee6f10180a5c82d
This exe file was created with the evaluation version of Perl2Exe.
For more information visit http://www.indigostar.com
(The full version does not display this message with a 2 second delay.)
...
CopyFileToTFFS(cidunlocked.bin:0, 0, 00010000)
result=80072746
Your phone is now CID unlocked....
Store the generated 'lock_backup.bin' file in a safe place. It can help to resto
re your device if anything goes wrong.
ECHO is off.
"Standing on the shoulder of giants"
Ricardo Afonso, 2005

Brainless & Confused

Sorry guys & gals. New to this but cannot get a handle on the right thing to do. Can anybody help? Yes have read the basics but its not basic to me I am afraid.
I have got an HTC TYTNII from Orange. Need to unlock the sim card lock. Then would like to clear out all the Orange rubbish with a rom flash I think its called (havent got all the words right just yet). However as I paid a few quid forthe phone do not really wish to stew it!! If you know what I mean Harry! Cannot find hardspl etc on so on have ativesync fitted and running. All help greatly appreciated.
This webpage has a ton of files that have been extremely helpful to me so far...
http://duttythroy.lives-in.eu/
dont really know how to help
but
if you want to use hardspl is on the sticky thread
activesync can be downloaded from ms depending on the os you are using.
if you want more help tell me what you need and i will guide you
satiros
Lots of reading
I suggest you do lots more reading.
However, as a starter, go to :
http://www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php
Pay for the unlocking service.
Then, and only then, install HardSPL
Following that, you can install any ROM you like (for Kaiser / TYTN II)
If you install a ROM based on Windows Mobile 6.1, chances are you will have to install a new Radio coding too. You should install the one for UK Vodaphone on :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Don't worry, it works on Orange, I have it on mine.
I recommend the Alex ROM even though it is still a Beta version, it is very good.
After you install the ROM and done a hard reset (keep both soft buttons pressed down whilst pressing the reset button with your stylus) install the radio, then do another hard reset.
Bingo, it's like a different phone.
Thanks for the info have carried out the first bit awaiting reply. Where can I download HardSPL please? Having looked at your recommended ROMs Which one?.. wow some cooking I can see I will be Flashing all day!!
cloudbasher said:
... Where can I download HardSPL please?
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if you cannot look & find it right there in one of the sticky threads of this forum ... I'd suggest you do not attempt any flashing to your device !!!
as some of those stickies contained mandatory informations that you need to READ THOROUGHLY !!!

How should I choose a ROM?

I've very new to all this, having used a non-PDA/smartphone (SE637) for many years before purchasing a Tilt. While quite PC-literate, I find myself very intimidated with all this. I read as much as my mind allows before requiring large quantities of diet-coke -- then I need a nap to calm myself down from the soda before reading any more, or my head explodes.
I think that I need a new ROM, but I'm not sure why! Everywhere I read, that's what I'm told.
This community is very knowledgable and seems very helpful. As this appears to be more for developers than users like me, I'm hesitant to ask my question for fear of offending a developer, which isn't my intent. I'm looking for information that might assist me in choosing which ROM to use.
I suppose that I want the phone to run faster, be easier to use/see (I don't see as well as I did 50 years ago... ), and have the latest of whatever is the best at the moment, spending as little as possible in the process. A truly never-ending story...
Before you start flashing decide what's important to you. Are you looking for a certian look & feel? Is fuctionality more important or do you want spped/stability?
Then research the different Roms, most include feature lists & screen shots in the first few posts of the thread.
So what it really comes down to is a lot of reading.
Oh and be sure to HardSPL your device BEFORE doing anything.
Also, like kyphur said read and do the hardSPL first but for me I found it's most helpful just to try some. Download a few, flash them give it a whirl and see what you like. Once you try a few you'll find options and programs you love and will start looking for roms that have what you need and more importantly what you don't like. And if you never find anything you love then start cooking. There are a lot of great wikis here to guide you step by step.
Hope this helps.
Start with Wiki first. Once you hardspl, load your first rom. You will find how easy it is and start to flash more roms like crazy. Experiment, and then you will find what you like. After flashing your first rom, you will realize how much better your new rom is compare to the stock rom.
just start off by choosing a few roms...then read about it as the chef would describe their rom...see which one fits u most...then make sure u read teh wiki and faq before u actually start ur flashing...to make sure nothing goes wrong...and then if that doesnt fit u..try another rom..but all the roms here...are better than stock for sure
I knew this wasn't going to be easy... Rating system anyone? I suppose I'm also nervous about doing a first flash. What about CID and SIM unlocking?
MarkAtHome said:
I knew this wasn't going to be easy... Rating system anyone? I suppose I'm also nervous about doing a first flash. What about CID and SIM unlocking?
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HardSPL removes the Carrier lock (CID) from your phone. As for SIM unlocking, I haven't bothered yet because I don't travel anywhere that AT&T doesn't provide service.
Once you've done your share of reading, if you are still confused about what type of ROM you are looking for, check out whatever the latest Dutty release is at that point in time. Dutty's Kaiser ROMs are probably the most popular on XDA.
I use a [somewhat] clean ROM myself, with the bare minimum preloaded. This way I can install what I need, and not worry about wasted space for programs I don't use.
eenie meenie minie moe
j/p
however, for Christ sake, please have hardspl installed.
Just pick one by reading the changelogs usually located in the first couple of posts.
P1Tater said:
eenie meenie minie moe
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Yours sounds best!
NotATreoFan said:
HardSPL removes the Carrier lock (CID) from your phone. As for SIM unlocking, I haven't bothered yet because I don't travel anywhere that AT&T doesn't provide service.
Once you've done your share of reading, if you are still confused about what type of ROM you are looking for, check out whatever the latest Dutty release is at that point in time. Dutty's Kaiser ROMs are probably the most popular on XDA.
I use a [somewhat] clean ROM myself, with the bare minimum preloaded. This way I can install what I need, and not worry about wasted space for programs I don't use.
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Is there a Tilt-specific version (currently with ATT's latest released ROM) of HardSPL that avoids all the headaches I'm reading about?
I'm still not sure how this works, but if I were to go Dutty's, should I look for UC - from what I'm gathering, I could then get a minimum ROM version, choose what I want added, then somehow update that bare ROM to include my choices, keeping all my settings in the process? A hard reset, if needed, would restore the new UC basic ROM along with what I added -- do I have this right?
MarkAtHome said:
Is there a Tilt-specific version (currently with ATT's latest released ROM) of HardSPL that avoids all the headaches I'm reading about?
I'm still not sure how this works, but if I were to go Dutty's, should I look for UC - from what I'm gathering, I could then get a minimum ROM version, choose what I want added, then somehow update that bare ROM to include my choices, keeping all my settings in the process? A hard reset, if needed, would restore the new UC basic ROM along with what I added -- do I have this right?
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The version of HardSPL required is determined by what version SPL that is on your phone. If you reboot your phone in bootloader mode, you will see a version number for SPL. As long as you follow the directions for that version, you will be fine.
NotATreoFan said:
The version of HardSPL required is determined by what version SPL that is on your phone. If you reboot your phone in bootloader mode, you will see a version number for SPL. As long as you follow the directions for that version, you will be fine.
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Thanks, NotATreoFan. I found info on what a bootloader is, and this is the info displayed:
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
What should my search criteria look like to find the HardSPL that I need to use?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
and i think from your spl version you can pretty much guess which one you have to use
XtreMe_G said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
and i think from your spl version you can pretty much guess which one you have to use
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Thanks for the help, XtreMe_G. Just so I have this straight, out of the 4 files listed, I only need to download and run JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.zip and I'm done? The Tilt is now prepared to accept any appropriate ROM?
MarkAtHome said:
Thanks for the help, XtreMe_G. Just so I have this straight, out of the 4 files listed, I only need to download and run JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.zip and I'm done? The Tilt is now prepared to accept any appropriate ROM?
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You need JumpSPL to get started, and then you need HardSPL to flash. 2 zip files total. Memorize the steps prior to starting, and do NOT skip any of them for any reason...
man...I thought I gave you advice yesterday on what to do. Literally, thousands of people have hardspl their roms just fine. Even a couple blonde girls in this forum have done it. It is not that hard and you shouldn't have too much trouble. Just follow the instructions and you will be just fine. After your first flash, you will move couple levels up in knowledge.
NotATreoFan said:
You need JumpSPL to get started, and then you need HardSPL to flash. 2 zip files total. Memorize the steps prior to starting, and do NOT skip any of them for any reason...
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Will do ask you suggest. Just a thought... by doing this, will anything on my phone be affected (programs, settings, etc.)? I'm, obviously nervous about all this, and while I will follow your instructions with hardSPL, I'm not yet ready to flash a ROM.
thomassster said:
man...I thought I gave you advice yesterday on what to do. Literally, thousands of people have hardspl their roms just fine. Even a couple blonde girls in this forum have done it. It is not that hard and you shouldn't have too much trouble. Just follow the instructions and you will be just fine. After your first flash, you will move couple levels up in knowledge.
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Your information was very valuable. I just needed a little more detail to help calm my nerves...

New to windows mobile, would appreciate help.

Hi everyone, I have recently bought a htc touch pro from polish orange provider. I have browsed dozens of topic, trying to make my windows mobile 6.1 life more satisfying, but I have few questions to ask.
1. What does Hard-Spl do ? And can I hard-spl my phone ?
2. To install advanced config, do I have to jailbreak my windows, or do anything to install it ? I don't want to end up with useless phone
3. When I try to upgrade my default opera browser to the newest build, the instlaler cannot uninstall previous version of opera, neither can I because it is not listed in add/remove programs menu. And, if I ignore the warning, I get an error in installling the newest build, but somehow I have 2 opera mobiles listed in programs menu.
Thanks in advance, r4ster.
r4ster said:
Hi everyone, I have recently bought a htc touch pro from polish orange provider. I have browsed dozens of topic, trying to make my windows mobile 6.1 life more satisfying, but I have few questions to ask.
1. What does Hard-Spl do ? And can I hard-spl my phone ?
2. To install advanced config, do I have to jailbreak my windows, or do anything to install it ? I don't want to end up with useless phone
3. When I try to upgrade my default opera browser to the newest build, the instlaler cannot uninstall previous version of opera, neither can I because it is not listed in add/remove programs menu. And, if I ignore the warning, I get an error in installling the newest build, but somehow I have 2 opera mobiles listed in programs menu.
Thanks in advance, r4ster.
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I probably can't answer your questions like a pro, but I had a few experience that I can share with you.
1. I don't know what Hard-SPL do, but I guess it's like jailbreak for Windows Mobile device. If you want to flash to a new custom Rom, you need to Hard-SPL it first (don't need to do this if you flash back to the original ROM). And yes, Hard-SPL your device
2. Jailbreak is only a term to unlock your iphone... With a Win Device, you don't need to unlock anything to be able to download and install other software. This is the beautiful part of a Window mobile.
3. Definitively can't help you here... but I know that plenty of thread has been posted for this matter... just do a quick search. However, I strongly suggest (with no responsibility) you to "Hard-SPL" and "CID unlock" your device and flash it to a new ROM. It will make your phone faster and much cleaner. Also, you'll get your new Opera install.
The question now is, which ROM
I suggest NATF's v2.3, but he'll be releasing a v3 today or so. Don't flash to it right away... just flash to v2.3 first and see if v3 is stable or not by reading people posts.
Flashing is not as hard as people claim... just read and be very carefully before you do it. Don't skip any step. The first time is stressful, but after that it's just a daily burger.
pandaboyy said:
I probably can't answer your questions like a pro, but I had a few experience that I can share with you.
1. I don't know what Hard-SPL do, but I guess it's like jailbreak for Windows Mobile device. If you want to flash to a new custom Rom, you need to Hard-SPL it first (don't need to do this if you flash back to the original ROM). And yes, Hard-SPL your device
2. Jailbreak is only a term to unlock your iphone... With a Win Device, you don't need to unlock anything to be able to download and install other software. This is the beautiful part of a Window mobile.
3. Definitively can't help you here... but I know that plenty of thread has been posted for this matter... just do a quick search. However, I strongly suggest (with no responsibility) you to "Hard-SPL" and "CID unlock" your device and flash it to a new ROM. It will make your phone faster and much cleaner. Also, you'll get your new Opera install.
The question now is, which ROM
I suggest NATF's v2.3, but he'll be releasing a v3 today or so. Don't flash to it right away... just flash to v2.3 first and see if v3 is stable or not by reading people posts.
Flashing is not as hard as people claim... just read and be very carefully before you do it. Don't skip any step. The first time is stressful, but after that it's just a daily burger.
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So, I can flash any rom I want, and still have a fully working phone, after hard spl ?
r4ster said:
So, I can flash any rom I want, and still have a fully working phone, after hard spl ?
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you have to hard-spl first before Flashing any Rom. Please read those sticky carefully. I do not take any responsibility of what you're doing.
This is what I did (it works for me without any problem)
0- I backup everything I need with PPCPimbackup and outlook
1- I HARD-SPL my device
2- I CID unlock my device
3- Flash to NATF's v2.3 ROM, hard-reset my device
4- Flash new Radio (this step is optional... and to find the best one, you have to test one by one.)
5- Restore my backup
6- Re-install extra software that I need.
Like I mention earlier, these steps work for me, and there are big chance that it will work for you as well... but I do not take any responsibility. Before you Flash to any ROM, HARD-SPL your device. and after flashing your ROM, HARD-RESET it.
pandaboyy said:
you have to hard-spl first before Flashing any Rom. Please read those sticky carefully. I do not take any responsibility of what you're doing.
This is what I did (it works for me without any problem)
0- I backup everything I need with PPCPimbackup and outlook
1- I HARD-SPL my device
2- I CID unlock my device
3- Flash to NATF's v2.3 ROM, hard-reset my device
4- Flash new Radio (this step is optional... and to find the best one, you have to test one by one.)
5- Restore my backup
6- Re-install extra software that I need.
Like I mention earlier, these steps work for me, and there are big chance that it will work for you as well... but I do not take any responsibility. Before you Flash to any ROM, HARD-SPL your device. and after flashing your ROM, HARD-RESET it.
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Ok, what if the hard spl goes wrong, is there a way to unbrick the phone ?
And thanks for all the help !
r4ster said:
Ok, what if the hard spl goes wrong, is there a way to unbrick the phone ?
And thanks for all the help !
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Well, first I hope that it doesn't go wrong. And second, I'm pretty sure you can stand the temptation of flashing to a new ROM, so you'll probably going to do it very soon. But Third, So far I haven't seen any thread that someone can unbrick their Touch Pro after a bad flash (he/she didn't Hard-spl before flashing, that's why)... However, there is a way to do it with the Kaiser... so don't lose hope there.
Just READ everything carefully, you have a 99.5% successful rate if you do. I would say that the 0.5% is just your bad luck (example Computer stop working during the flash... but that's just pure bad luck and you can't blame anyone but God)

Is there an easy way to upgrade 02 xda mini

Im just a newbie and I really dont know anything to begin with, flashing and stuff, why did the developers of XDA did not make the upgrade easy? Im tired of using win mobile 2003? why did the developers of win mobile 6 make it easy, now the problem I really don't know how to start? the procedures are to technical and to risky? I really dont know? can anyone help?
Because new rom designed only for experienced users.
you should look into official rom at first and understand basic Windows Mobile stuffs and features.
great answer.
But you are right. The instructions are basically simple and as easy as possible.
If someone says "does not work" without precise information at which point of the instructions he is stuck he is basically too lazy to check things out on his own.
tobias1981 said:
great answer.
But you are right. The instructions are basically simple and as easy as possible.
If someone says "does not work" without precise information at which point of the instructions he is stuck he is basically too lazy to check things out on his own.
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that´s why i bought a second device. first device for testing and a second device for everyday using.
Hi i have successfully upgrade my German O2 XDA Mini direckt from German Orginal Rom with Radio 1.12 to Cotullas 6.1 Rom.
It was a Little Bit Tricky.
When i connect the XDA in Bootloader-Mode and start the Upgrade the Toll does not find the Version on my Device. But Serial connection work fine. In the describtion was wrote that the Device must beconnectet by Serial-Bootloader and Active Sync in same Time. But my Active-Sync want not Sync in Bootloader-Modus.
OK get off Bootloader-Mode and Sync my Device, .... start Flash Tool again, .... now the Tool list my correckt Softwareversion and list Cotullas Version as Update, ... when i klick Upgrade he turns the Magician Automatik into Bootloader mode and want Start Flashing. But at the beginning i became a issue that the FW was not made 4 my Device and Upgrade was not possible.
After that i repressed the upgrade button, ... he doesnt list my Softwareversion but lists Cotullas at this time, ... Magicia is still in Loader-Mode. I press Flash, ... wait 20min and everything is Fine.
Now i have the English Cotulla Rom without Flashing anything bevore.
Here only the Steps:
1. Connect Device normal(not Bootloader) and Try upgrade. It Stop with a message that the Firmware is not for these Device.
2. Just retry, upgrade, it does not list the current SW Version, but just Flash, it will work.
And, .... sry i have to say that, ... Cotulla i Love You!!!!!

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