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WM6.0 upgrade for the most inexperienced WM5.0 HTC prophet user.

Hi Friends,
I'm a very very fool and inexperienced QTEK S200 user.
I have never tried ROM update upto now.
Can any one guide me to update my QTEK S200 from WM5.0 to WM6.0 step by step.
Assume that I just know how to read and push the buttons.
Let me introduce my QTEK S200 to you.
ROM version: 2.20.7.21.WWE
ROM date: 7/10/06
Radio Version:02.40.21
Protocol Version: 4.1.13.20
ExtROM Version:2.20.7.101
IPL:2.20.0001
SPL:2.20.0001
I haven't done any modifications on locks and etc.
I don't know if it is cid locked or not.
I know that it is not gsm locked.
Thank you for you patience and time wasted for me and the guys like me.
You can send "step-by-step" guide to my e-mail if you want.
[email protected]

wow I didn't know there was a 2.20 prophet ipl around^^
if you take the smart crossbow rom:
1. hardreset (camera and recorder button und reset)
2. when you are back in align screen, (the screen were you have to klick on crosses on the display ) you leave it there and connect it to the computer
3. in the upcoming active sync window you press cancel to stay in guestmode
4. extract all the files from the exe you downloaded it into a folder
5. run upgraderom.bat or similar

I was going to say "hey mine is "
but then i checked and it isn't
cr0ssy said:
wow I didn't know there was a 2.20 prophet ipl around^^
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Could you please locate the .exe to be downloaded.
And places to download upgraderom.bat or similar applications.
Be sure I know NOTHING about upgrading.
Please behave like,
you are on the phone with a 12 yearsold child.
And you are trying to teach that child to safely land on a airbus.
cr0ssy said:
wow I didn't know there was a 2.20 prophet ipl around^^
if you take the smart crossbow rom:
1. hardreset (camera and recorder button und reset)
2. when you are back in align screen, (the screen were you have to klick on crosses on the display ) you leave it there and connect it to the computer
3. in the upcoming active sync window you press cancel to stay in guestmode
4. extract all the files from the exe you downloaded it into a folder
5. run upgraderom.bat or similar
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dionysos77 said:
Be sure I know NOTHING about upgrading.
Please behave like,
you are on the phone with a 12 yearsold child.
And you are trying to teach that child to safely land on a airbus.
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I wouldn't try to teach this child to land an airbus.. especially if that child doesn't want to listen and learn.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Upgrades

The link was great.
thank you.
Aaand it is time to chose a WM6.0 ROM ..
Any suggestions for the first trial.
Links for ROMs and related pathces (if required for charging or phone calls)
redandr said:
I wouldn't try to teach this child to land an airbus.. especially if that child doesn't want to listen and learn.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Upgrades
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dionysos77 said:
The link was great.
thank you.
Aaand it is time to chose a WM6.0 ROM ..
Any suggestions for the first trial.
Links for ROMs and related pathces (if required for charging or phone calls)
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just go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299069

And than it is getting confusing again.
The first link sent was very clear and easy to apply.
But the suggested link is 11 pages long threath with again so much problems etc.
What I try to do is to figure out comleted, step by step installation guide.
For example:
1-download xxxx.zip from www.xxxx.com
2-download yyyy.exe from www.yyyy.com
3-download zzz.cab , ttt.cab and kkk.cab
3-extract xxxx.zip to C:/xxxx you will have aaa.cab,bbb.dat and ccc.tmp
4-run yyyy.exe go file->open, select bbb.dat and open it.
5-.......
.....
....
Is there any body that can provide this information for newbies.
acer175 said:
just go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299069
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Use the first page to get the rom . use the second link to fix the problems you have. I'm not sure why you have to run wm6 as a newbie? I think you better off stay on wm5 aku 3.x or 2.x its less bleeding edge, hence less bugs to worry about. I admit, once you start upgrade roms, you became hooked, you start try all kinds of roms, and at that point you wont be a newbie anymore. In case you will ask me where are the wm5 roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1166781&postcount=1
Enjoy

thanks this would be the best way I think.
kenxu said:
Use the first page to get the rom . use the second link to fix the problems you have. I'm not sure why you have to run wm6 as a newbie? I think you better off stay on wm5 aku 3.x or 2.x its less bleeding edge, hence less bugs to worry about. I admit, once you start upgrade roms, you became hooked, you start try all kinds of roms, and at that point you wont be a newbie anymore. In case you will ask me where are the wm5 roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1166781&postcount=1
Enjoy
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I would write you a guide from heart, no problem. But the point is that every ROM has it's own installation-procedure!
Some use the upgrade.bat, while others use the RUU (ROMUpdateUltility.exe).
Some need to be installed from bootloader, other one's need to be installed from within the OS itself.
That's why everybody who wants to flash ROM's on his device should know the basics of flashing.
And all the basics can be found in the wiki, mentioned here before.
After learning the basics, choose a ROM you want to use.
Then you should start reading every topic related to this ROM from 1st to last post, like we all did when
we wanted to flash our first ROM!!
When you've read everything, you'll know exactly what to expect and what to do..

I decided to do so.
Even I have read related threads and deciden to open this thread to prepare a installation guide think it wont work because of the reasons that you mentioned.
I'll follow smart1's ROM page and after I belive in there is no fatal error on the rom I'll flash it to my prophet.
The only information that I neeed will be should I cid unlock my device or not.
I think I'll be able to find this info also.
After all I'll prepare some guides for newbies for the ROMs that I used.
and add as new threads here and in my language for our forums.
lo0m said:
I would write you a guide from heart, no problem. But the point is that every ROM has it's own installation-procedure!
Some use the upgrade.bat, while others use the RUU (ROMUpdateUltility.exe).
Some need to be installed from bootloader, other one's need to be installed from within the OS itself.
That's why everybody who wants to flash ROM's on his device should know the basics of flashing.
And all the basics can be found in the wiki, mentioned here before.
After learning the basics, choose a ROM you want to use.
Then you should start reading every topic related to this ROM from 1st to last post, like we all did when
we wanted to flash our first ROM!!
When you've read everything, you'll know exactly what to expect and what to do..
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dionysos77 said:
I'll follow smart1's ROM page and after I belive in there is no fatal error on the rom I'll flash it to my prophet.
The only information that I neeed will be should I cid unlock my device or not.
I think I'll be able to find this info also.
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You don't have to CID-unlock your device to flash (Prophet-)ROM's. Not the one's released here on xda-developers anyway.
grtz

Should not be a problem by now posting the same post three times!
Hundreds of people have managed to flash their device. Experienced as well as newbies. It's a little anoying to look at the latest posts and fined some multiple times. Yours is not more important then any other one!
If you realy want to do something with your device that's far from standard you also have to be willing to feed yourself with tons of info. Sure everybody would like a DIY document in their mailbox. But who will be held resonsable when you do something you don't even have a clue off?
Further if you think the WiKi is not clear enough to real newbies, then contribute to this forum and place your info in the WiKi so you can help others, like we all try to do here

Brainless & Confused

Sorry guys & gals. New to this but cannot get a handle on the right thing to do. Can anybody help? Yes have read the basics but its not basic to me I am afraid.
I have got an HTC TYTNII from Orange. Need to unlock the sim card lock. Then would like to clear out all the Orange rubbish with a rom flash I think its called (havent got all the words right just yet). However as I paid a few quid forthe phone do not really wish to stew it!! If you know what I mean Harry! Cannot find hardspl etc on so on have ativesync fitted and running. All help greatly appreciated.

This webpage has a ton of files that have been extremely helpful to me so far...
http://duttythroy.lives-in.eu/

dont really know how to help
but
if you want to use hardspl is on the sticky thread
activesync can be downloaded from ms depending on the os you are using.
if you want more help tell me what you need and i will guide you
satiros

Lots of reading
I suggest you do lots more reading.
However, as a starter, go to :
http://www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php
Pay for the unlocking service.
Then, and only then, install HardSPL
Following that, you can install any ROM you like (for Kaiser / TYTN II)
If you install a ROM based on Windows Mobile 6.1, chances are you will have to install a new Radio coding too. You should install the one for UK Vodaphone on :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Don't worry, it works on Orange, I have it on mine.
I recommend the Alex ROM even though it is still a Beta version, it is very good.
After you install the ROM and done a hard reset (keep both soft buttons pressed down whilst pressing the reset button with your stylus) install the radio, then do another hard reset.
Bingo, it's like a different phone.

Thanks for the info have carried out the first bit awaiting reply. Where can I download HardSPL please? Having looked at your recommended ROMs Which one?.. wow some cooking I can see I will be Flashing all day!!

cloudbasher said:
... Where can I download HardSPL please?
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if you cannot look & find it right there in one of the sticky threads of this forum ... I'd suggest you do not attempt any flashing to your device !!!
as some of those stickies contained mandatory informations that you need to READ THOROUGHLY !!!

New to windows mobile, would appreciate help.

Hi everyone, I have recently bought a htc touch pro from polish orange provider. I have browsed dozens of topic, trying to make my windows mobile 6.1 life more satisfying, but I have few questions to ask.
1. What does Hard-Spl do ? And can I hard-spl my phone ?
2. To install advanced config, do I have to jailbreak my windows, or do anything to install it ? I don't want to end up with useless phone
3. When I try to upgrade my default opera browser to the newest build, the instlaler cannot uninstall previous version of opera, neither can I because it is not listed in add/remove programs menu. And, if I ignore the warning, I get an error in installling the newest build, but somehow I have 2 opera mobiles listed in programs menu.
Thanks in advance, r4ster.

r4ster said:
Hi everyone, I have recently bought a htc touch pro from polish orange provider. I have browsed dozens of topic, trying to make my windows mobile 6.1 life more satisfying, but I have few questions to ask.
1. What does Hard-Spl do ? And can I hard-spl my phone ?
2. To install advanced config, do I have to jailbreak my windows, or do anything to install it ? I don't want to end up with useless phone
3. When I try to upgrade my default opera browser to the newest build, the instlaler cannot uninstall previous version of opera, neither can I because it is not listed in add/remove programs menu. And, if I ignore the warning, I get an error in installling the newest build, but somehow I have 2 opera mobiles listed in programs menu.
Thanks in advance, r4ster.
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I probably can't answer your questions like a pro, but I had a few experience that I can share with you.
1. I don't know what Hard-SPL do, but I guess it's like jailbreak for Windows Mobile device. If you want to flash to a new custom Rom, you need to Hard-SPL it first (don't need to do this if you flash back to the original ROM). And yes, Hard-SPL your device
2. Jailbreak is only a term to unlock your iphone... With a Win Device, you don't need to unlock anything to be able to download and install other software. This is the beautiful part of a Window mobile.
3. Definitively can't help you here... but I know that plenty of thread has been posted for this matter... just do a quick search. However, I strongly suggest (with no responsibility) you to "Hard-SPL" and "CID unlock" your device and flash it to a new ROM. It will make your phone faster and much cleaner. Also, you'll get your new Opera install.
The question now is, which ROM
I suggest NATF's v2.3, but he'll be releasing a v3 today or so. Don't flash to it right away... just flash to v2.3 first and see if v3 is stable or not by reading people posts.
Flashing is not as hard as people claim... just read and be very carefully before you do it. Don't skip any step. The first time is stressful, but after that it's just a daily burger.

pandaboyy said:
I probably can't answer your questions like a pro, but I had a few experience that I can share with you.
1. I don't know what Hard-SPL do, but I guess it's like jailbreak for Windows Mobile device. If you want to flash to a new custom Rom, you need to Hard-SPL it first (don't need to do this if you flash back to the original ROM). And yes, Hard-SPL your device
2. Jailbreak is only a term to unlock your iphone... With a Win Device, you don't need to unlock anything to be able to download and install other software. This is the beautiful part of a Window mobile.
3. Definitively can't help you here... but I know that plenty of thread has been posted for this matter... just do a quick search. However, I strongly suggest (with no responsibility) you to "Hard-SPL" and "CID unlock" your device and flash it to a new ROM. It will make your phone faster and much cleaner. Also, you'll get your new Opera install.
The question now is, which ROM
I suggest NATF's v2.3, but he'll be releasing a v3 today or so. Don't flash to it right away... just flash to v2.3 first and see if v3 is stable or not by reading people posts.
Flashing is not as hard as people claim... just read and be very carefully before you do it. Don't skip any step. The first time is stressful, but after that it's just a daily burger.
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So, I can flash any rom I want, and still have a fully working phone, after hard spl ?

r4ster said:
So, I can flash any rom I want, and still have a fully working phone, after hard spl ?
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you have to hard-spl first before Flashing any Rom. Please read those sticky carefully. I do not take any responsibility of what you're doing.
This is what I did (it works for me without any problem)
0- I backup everything I need with PPCPimbackup and outlook
1- I HARD-SPL my device
2- I CID unlock my device
3- Flash to NATF's v2.3 ROM, hard-reset my device
4- Flash new Radio (this step is optional... and to find the best one, you have to test one by one.)
5- Restore my backup
6- Re-install extra software that I need.
Like I mention earlier, these steps work for me, and there are big chance that it will work for you as well... but I do not take any responsibility. Before you Flash to any ROM, HARD-SPL your device. and after flashing your ROM, HARD-RESET it.

pandaboyy said:
you have to hard-spl first before Flashing any Rom. Please read those sticky carefully. I do not take any responsibility of what you're doing.
This is what I did (it works for me without any problem)
0- I backup everything I need with PPCPimbackup and outlook
1- I HARD-SPL my device
2- I CID unlock my device
3- Flash to NATF's v2.3 ROM, hard-reset my device
4- Flash new Radio (this step is optional... and to find the best one, you have to test one by one.)
5- Restore my backup
6- Re-install extra software that I need.
Like I mention earlier, these steps work for me, and there are big chance that it will work for you as well... but I do not take any responsibility. Before you Flash to any ROM, HARD-SPL your device. and after flashing your ROM, HARD-RESET it.
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Ok, what if the hard spl goes wrong, is there a way to unbrick the phone ?
And thanks for all the help !

r4ster said:
Ok, what if the hard spl goes wrong, is there a way to unbrick the phone ?
And thanks for all the help !
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Well, first I hope that it doesn't go wrong. And second, I'm pretty sure you can stand the temptation of flashing to a new ROM, so you'll probably going to do it very soon. But Third, So far I haven't seen any thread that someone can unbrick their Touch Pro after a bad flash (he/she didn't Hard-spl before flashing, that's why)... However, there is a way to do it with the Kaiser... so don't lose hope there.
Just READ everything carefully, you have a 99.5% successful rate if you do. I would say that the 0.5% is just your bad luck (example Computer stop working during the flash... but that's just pure bad luck and you can't blame anyone but God)

Treo version

Hello everybody. I'm completely noob, so please have a little patience with me. I have a Treo 750 in italian, and my final goal is to flash it to wm6-english. But for start, i don't know what Treo i have. I read about Cingular, At&t, etc...
mine sais TREO750-1.16-H3I, h-ware version A, firmware version 1.27.0b.00.
So whom am i talking to every day? Is there a special version of wm6 for my phone?
I thought i'l start from here. Any help would be appreciated...

Ok... noone? At least tell me how I can figure if my phone is unlocked or unbrenched...
Or could someone point me to a tutorial-thread of flashing the phone... from the beginning to the end.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Cheetah_WM6
Maybe you'll find something around here for the beginning, ...

Stupi ... it doesn't matter which Treo you have when it comes to flashing ROMs.
Just do the HardSPL first. That way you can pick the English language ROM of your choice to flash and it will work. You also get the benefit of unlocking the phone so it can be used on any GSM network.
Ideally, you'd be best to pick an English ROM provided by the same company that provides your cellular service, but it is not required. If you pick one from another cell company (or a hacked one) then you might have to enter your network settings manually, but that's the only difficult part.
Plenty of resources in this forum. Do some searching and you'll find everything you need. Good luck!

One question, thought... i could'n find the answer on the forum. I downloaded the unlocher, but it sais it only works with spl 1.11, at least... Mine is 0.22.
I tried then to update with RUU_Hermes_QTEK_WWE_2.11.255.1_102_6275_1.38.00.10_108_Ship.exe, but in the "current information about your pda phone" it didn' recognize my pda. I got affraid of bricking it.
So, it seems to me my first problem is updating the spl from 0.22 to 1.11. But I cannot find the software to do this..

Come on men, this has to be simple. I need some help here, please. I'm stuck up with wm5 over a week now...
so, the first thimg I must do, a hard-spl, that's what I understood. This can be done with ceetah_unlocker.
Ok, i launch the application, and it sais it can't start only with 1.11 spl. Mine is 0.22.0000
So the first thing i have to do is update this 0.22 spl to 1.11. Am I right?
But how?

Find one of the WM6.0 desktop updaters and try installing that. They don't require a HardSPL first.
Use one of the following:
AT&T English: Treo750_2_25_ATT_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip
Rest of World English: Treo750_2_23_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip
Three Australia: Treo750_2_19_H3E_DesktopUpdater.zip
Vodaphone UK English: Treo750_2_18_VFU_DesktopUpdater.zip
I don't have any links as they aren't hosted by Palm anymore. You should be able to find them by looking around the XDA Forum, or by searching the net and/or torrent sites for the filenames above.

thanks a lot, man, but I lost my pathience and i run the cheetah_unlocker... and I didn't brick it. So, now I'm ready for the next step...
please, if anyone pm me with a win 6...

ok, my spl is ok (1.4), i put the CHEEIMG.nbh on my sd card, and I run the step 1 of cheetah unlocker. And nothing happens.. still boots with wm5. I even did a hard reset.
Man, i'm goig crazy... what am i missing?

Please, someone could upload again one of those 4 files? I could find neither of them with goolge.

So, i found the updater, but it won't update my phone since it's in italian...
guess I'll need to do it the hard way. Please, can someone point me a post or a tutorial to update from 5.0 to 6?

stupi said:
So, i found the updater, but it won't update my phone since it's in italian...
guess I'll need to do it the hard way. Please, can someone point me a post or a tutorial to update from 5.0 to 6?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511763

I must be missing something. I made those steps, all went ok. But how the heck do i change the windows version? That's my goal, not to flash the spl.
I got a win 6 image (i hope, at least), copied the CHEEIMG.nbh file on the card (which is fat 32), and i repeated step one from cheetah-unlocker. As I hoped that after flashing the new windows would automatically install. But nothing happened, the old win was up and running.
Come on man, I'm not such a bad person after all to deserve this... I may have killed a few birds or cats in my childhood, but this is too much... you're killing me.. I'm stuck in this spagetti windows, and I can't upgrade to a normal english windows... what the heck am i missing?

well, if you haven't gotten it sorted by now, hope this helps: once you've hard spl'd, put the new image that you want to flash in the root on your card [<2gb, fat32 formatted] and then hold media and push reset. your phone will cycle into the bootloader [rgb screen], detect the image and ask if you want to flash.

HTC Universal ROM upgrading

Hello, I am really sorry but I haven’t found answer anywhere and secondly sorry for my poor English. Let's begin; I have an old HTC universal with German windows mobile. And the problem is that it is GERMAN ://///
Ok, I will explain what I did. I was trying to flash it to another rom but I haven’t succeeded. Whenever I try to flash it, I get window where there is no information about ROMs, then I press upgrade and I get “checking the information on your device” window. After that I get congratulations window, it says that I successfully flashed my htc but that's not true (I get these windows even if my phone isn’t connected). I have tried about 5 different ROMs and always the same (2 of these ROMs are exactly for HTC Universal). Ok now some other details, I tried this on two different PCs with different operating system (XP and Win7). Also tried in boot loader and in htc usual modes (found many tutorials and I still don’t understand in what phone mode I need to flash). Now I am thinking maybe something wrong with active sync? Because I am not sure what is it but I think it’s that program called “Windows Mobile Device Center”. Am I right?
Thanks for patience; I will look forward for some help.
Poulius.

Welcome to forums,
You could try to do a Doc format and try again starting from zero. I would recommend to make the hole process on Win XP as it´s easier.
On my sig links you may find some useful tools
good luck,

Thank you ;] I managed to make it work.

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