Since morning i'm trying to find the link where i can download the WM6 undergroud version. Actually i tried installing WM6 Most beautiful, but i'm getting Update error [302] after 95% of installation. Mine is a G3 phone with IPL 2.26 and SPL 2.26
Thanks
Abhinandan
CID locked!
enggabhinandan said:
Since morning i'm trying to find the link where i can download the WM6 undergroud version. Actually i tried installing WM6 Most beautiful, but i'm getting Update error [302] after 95% of installation. Mine is a G3 phone with IPL 2.26 and SPL 2.26
Thanks
Abhinandan
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The dreaded 95% error... He's right. Your Wizard is still CID locked.
Follow this thread to get your device CID unlocked and then try flashing WM6 again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
enggabhinandan said:
Since morning i'm trying to find the link where i can download the WM6 undergroud version. Actually i tried installing WM6 Most beautiful, but i'm getting Update error [302] after 95% of installation. Mine is a G3 phone with IPL 2.26 and SPL 2.26
Thanks
Abhinandan
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i remember the time, when people were able to search info BEFORE stupid moves...now, my dear users, we have dying moloch named internet.
gl.
everbody is lazy now
when i first staring updating my wizard. I read for a few days because I wanted to make sure it was done right. People read one post and then try to flash there phone only to mess it up. I guess they have alot of money to buy more phones.
tomred said:
when i first staring updating my wizard. I read for a few days because I wanted to make sure it was done right. People read one post and then try to flash there phone only to mess it up. I guess they have alot of money to buy more phones.
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If only we were all so rich... When I first started, I downloaded a WM6 Rom I found on this forum but read nothing... Tried to flash it, phone went to bootloader immediately afterwards and would do nothing else. I called T-Mobile and they sent me to the place on T-Mobile.com where I could get the official Rom download and was able to restore my MDA to life again but not until I had read about 20 different threads, did I attempt it again.
Thats the problem with some people here. They don't read and just assume that because they're a Software Dev that they automatically know everything or think that because they're pretty computer savvy that they know what they're doing or think that because they had their device for a few months that they're automatically an expert... It's annoying to tell you the truth because the only real way to learn is through a lot of reading, or trial and error and thats how everyone here has to learn.
I read this forum for a few MONTHS before I flashed my device, and I'm glad I did. Not only do you have to READ the information, but you also have give it time to SINK IN so that it is fully understood.
There are some people who automatically cry out for help without expending any effort (NOOBE needs help! give me a link, fix this, WAA WAA). And then there are the ones who make this a great forum, they READ READ and REREAD, TEST and RETEST and generally provide knowledge, information and assistance.
All of us are riding on the backs of the mostly unsung developers Like Faria, Bepe and all the others.
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I read this forum for a few MONTHS before I flashed my device, and I'm glad I did. Not only do you have to READ the information, but you also have give it time to SINK IN so that it is fully understood.
There are some people who automatically cry out for help without expending any effort (NOOBE needs help! give me a link, fix this, WAA WAA). And then there are the ones who make this a great forum, they READ READ and REREAD, TEST and RETEST and generally provide knowledge, information and assistance.
All of us are riding on the backs of the mostly unsung developers Like Faria, Bepe and all the others.
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Exactly,very true cudn't have said much better than this,had sleepless nights,doubts,fears an what if this and what if that happened,read and reread the forums for weeks and posting question,only when as you say 'give it time to SINK IN so that it is fully understood' YUP! GOT IT !!! SMOOTHLY
Dharvey
Dan I'M BACK!! MY WIZARD IS FIXED THANKS TO SOME GOOD OLD FASHION SOLDERING SKILLS...
Hey buddy I'm so pleased you got it done,CONGRATS man
Why the hell do you want Underground????!!!!!!!!
It's old, unstable and has soooo many bugs that have all been resolved in recent ROMs. Have you just had the forum on pda view then jumped at the first WM6 ROM post from the early days?
I'm not interested with the Underground WM6 but when MB_WM6 did not work, i thought of trying that.
I have a question here, i tried installing MB_WM6 and it stopped at 95%, later i tried to install Faria's kitchen ROM and it was successful. I tried unlocking the CID with lokowiz03. Do u people still feel that my phone is still CID locked.
enggabhinandan said:
I'm not interested with the Underground WM6 but when MB_WM6 did not work, i thought of trying that.
I have a question here, i tried installing MB_WM6 and it stopped at 95%, later i tried to install Faria's kitchen ROM and it was successful. I tried unlocking the CID with lokowiz03. Do u people still feel that my phone is still CID locked.
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Download WST tool and run it,it'll give all the info about your phone to determine the present status of your phone,only than it can be confirmed if it's cid locked or unlocked.
btw,faria's kitchen is for cooking the custom rom according to your own needs,it contains the Base Rom,OEM,RUU... and tools to build a rom.Did you cook your own Rom and flashed ?
joemanb said:
I read this forum for a few MONTHS before I flashed my device, and I'm glad I did. Not only do you have to READ the information, but you also have give it time to SINK IN so that it is fully understood.
There are some people who automatically cry out for help without expending any effort (NOOBE needs help! give me a link, fix this, WAA WAA). And then there are the ones who make this a great forum, they READ READ and REREAD, TEST and RETEST and generally provide knowledge, information and assistance.
All of us are riding on the backs of the mostly unsung developers Like Faria, Bepe and all the others.
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Well said my friend... This is is how it should be. I think there should be a rule that have to be a member for so many weeks before you can even post and access download links on the forum... This should give you time to read before you make a mistake and brick your phone...
Thanks....i will surely search for WST tool. If u could post the link of the WST tool that will be of great help.
Thanks
Abhinandan
Hey........i found the link and also downloaded it.......thanks for the info
i tried flashing buttons ROM twice. The IPL version and others except SPL got changed to older one....but SPL remained the same 2.21, should itry flashing the buttons ROM again and again till SPL get changed to 1.01
now i installed the Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102 also even then the SPL version 2.21 only, how shall i change that to older one
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now i installed the Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102 also even then the SPL version 2.21 only, how shall i change that to older one
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do a soft reset of your phone , tap with stylus the soft reset button on the phone.the phone will reboot,see if it changes the spl,otherwise flash button's rom 1.05 a couple of more times and then do the soft reset,hope it'll change
Sorry...for posting the same info in a new thread......one more question here how to do a soft reset...is it by using ur WST tool. By keeping the power button pressed it will ask that device will be turned off....is this soft reset...or is there any other way to do
enggabhinandan said:
Sorry...for posting the same info in a new thread......one more question here how to do a soft reset...is it by using ur WST tool. By keeping the power button pressed it will ask that device will be turned off....is this soft reset...or is there any other way to do
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To perform a soft reset,use the stylus to lightly press and hold the RESET button on the left side of your device,it's a small hole type just underneath Infrared port,you just can't miss it,ok
I simply tried unlocking CID from lokowiz even though my IPL/SPL was 1.05/2.21. I got the below results .....in the result it says CID unlocked, can any senior person have a look at the output say was CID really unlocked
Type the letter and press Enter: C
CID unlocking mobile... DO NOT DISCONNECT UNTIL THE PHONE REBOOTS!
Copying C:\lokiwiz02_173\Utils\itsutils.dll to WCE:\windows\itsutils.dll
CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x10000, lock_backup.bin)
g=16: 314962fa - 121b40d192a81203
Key idx: 16
olddata: 55e9ed9a9ab801da460f100469464259621e8365aeb43277cf2858b925828379
newdata: 95ea23df0bf16432cf7be60912a5cbdedee342037c9d3bd3dee342037c9d3bd3
newsum=f6adec8d encsum=2ee6f10180a5c82d
This exe file was created with the evaluation version of Perl2Exe.
For more information visit http://www.indigostar.com
(The full version does not display this message with a 2 second delay.)
...
CopyFileToTFFS(cidunlocked.bin:0, 0, 00010000)
result=80072746
Your phone is now CID unlocked....
Store the generated 'lock_backup.bin' file in a safe place. It can help to resto
re your device if anything goes wrong.
ECHO is off.
"Standing on the shoulder of giants"
Ricardo Afonso, 2005
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Hi guys i'm pretty new in this scene and i did something stupid...
i've downloaded Win Mobile 6 from usenet and installed it without reading
anything. At 95% of the installation it hangs and when i try to recover it doesnt work. Now i only have the screen with the green red and blue at the background. I've tried a hard reset but that doesnt work either and i tried to search by google and found nothing.
Am i right that i had to remove some kind of G4 lock? And does somebody know how to help me getting things started again.....
thnx in advance.
greetz
JohnGotti
do your carriers flash and let it fully finish. Once thats done, read a little on making sure your device is unlocked and once you get that done, youll be ready to move to the next level.
what your device is g3 or g4?
how do i perform such a flash and how can i see what kind of G3/4 i have??
If you got a G4 or G3 IPL/SPL 2.x:
Try flasing wizard_love rom from the bootloader screen.
If you got IPL/SPL 1.x:
flash button_rom from the bootloader screen.
damn thats a whole mouth full and i dont get it how its intended.....
perhaps you can tell me in dutch or in a language a stupid fool can understand
JohnGotti said:
damn thats a whole mouth full and i dont get it how its intended.....
perhaps you can tell me in dutch or in a language a stupid fool can understand
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See you're private messages!
ok thank you
i have the same problem..and i've tried all versions,RUU_mUn_aRTM_10_2_0_8_WWEx.exe, Wizard_Love_2[1].26.10.2_WWE_Novii_CF2.exe, Molski[1].Biz_AKU3.3_21911_8MB_Crossbow.rar...and now when i open it, shows me for 1 second the bootloader screen, and then it's shutting down himself..what should I do???
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i have the same problem..and i've tried all versions,RUU_mUn_aRTM_10_2_0_8_WWEx.exe, Wizard_Love_2[1].26.10.2_WWE_Novii_CF2.exe, Molski[1].Biz_AKU3.3_21911_8MB_Crossbow.rar...and now when i open it, shows me for 1 second the bootloader screen, and then it's shutting down himself..what should I do???
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You should provide more information... What phone model is this? Is it a G3 or G4? What is your IPL / SPL? What did you do before this started happening? Was the battery fully charged before you started this process? Did your PC give you errors when you tried to do teh initial flash that started this process?
The more information you provide the better we can help.
If your phone won't stay turned on when its on the bootloader (rainbow screen) then either your battery is almost dead, or you may have bricked your phone. But we need more details.
this happened to me once, i almost had an heart attack.. but anyway.. what u get there is the bootloader mode, which is you can still save the phone.. when this happened to me, all i did was, i upgraded to original tmobile rom, and from there i ve used shell tool to upgrade to wm6 (my wizard is not unlocked but shelltool takes care of that and u dont have to worry).. its really easy.. let me know what happened.. no worries
Dont worry guys... I think most of us here, faced the same things before, Me included.
Everybody here is quite nice and will help u in any way we can..
Just do some research and fact finding before u flash your rom..
One of the article that I think is very helpful to me is Dr P post on how to unlock and flash your wizard.
If you have any problem or question after reading that, just ask.
Hopefully u can find your answer and your wizard are all healthy..
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You should provide more information... What phone model is this? Is it a G3 or G4? What is your IPL / SPL? What did you do before this started happening? Was the battery fully charged before you started this process? Did your PC give you errors when you tried to do teh initial flash that started this process?
The more information you provide the better we can help.
If your phone won't stay turned on when its on the bootloader (rainbow screen) then either your battery is almost dead, or you may have bricked your phone. But we need more details.
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my phone is G4...first, when i tryed to change the rom, on 95% was blocked..and i have wait about 20 minutes, and nothing...the spl is....01...the battery was quite full, but after several tries, i don't know now how it is (i supose to be from the battery, but i still need a very good rom for it)
ok.. here are the steps.. its very easy.. i had the samething..
your phone is probably CID locked and you will need a shelltool to install that ROM.. so what you need to do is just download the original tmobile ROM.. and connect the phone and install the original ROM.. You didnt birck the phone because you get the bootloader screen.. which means, you can still save the phone..
anyway.. connect the phone via usb and install after you install the original wm5, download the shelltool from here and follow the instructions.. and install the ROM via shelltool.. Then you should be good to go with the new
wm6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ght=CID+unlock
ok, but where can i get that original rom?
rom
ady_uaic said:
ok, but where can i get that original rom?
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if you cant get the tmobile rom
use the wizard love rom you can get it from here http://rapidshare.com/users/EXGZ7T
flash this rom not using the shell tool once flashed the use the shell tool following all the instructions and it should work
now i've installed RUU_mUn_aRTM_10_2_0_8_WWEx.exe (i've tried and that version also, but same situation) and after reflashing, it shows me windows mobile screen, and then restart the phone...what should I do??? i've tried many roms...could someone please give me an original rom, in english?
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now i've installed RUU_mUn_aRTM_10_2_0_8_WWEx.exe (i've tried and that version also, but same situation) and after reflashing, it shows me windows mobile screen, and then restart the phone...what should I do??? i've tried many roms...could someone please give me an original rom, in english?
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Simple: Go to the Wizard Upgrading forum and in the stickies is a post by Dr. Putingham on how to CID Unlock your device. Scroll to the bottom of the first post and there is a direct link to pull the Tmobile 2.26 official ROM.
But as EasyMob suggested (and gave a link to) you may be better off with teh Wizard Love rom since you are a G4 device. Wizard Love ROM is very good at recovering G4 devices.
mfrazzz said:
Simple: Go to the Wizard Upgrading forum and in the stickies is a post by Dr. Putingham on how to CID Unlock your device. Scroll to the bottom of the first post and there is a direct link to pull the Tmobile 2.26 official ROM.
But as EasyMob suggested (and gave a link to) you may be better off with teh Wizard Love rom since you are a G4 device. Wizard Love ROM is very good at recovering G4 devices.
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OK..I'm agree with you, but please understand: I've tried that version too...same situation...please give me the link with the Tmobile 2.26 official ROM
ady_uaic said:
please give me the link with the Tmobile 2.26 official ROM
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If you read my previous post, I gave you exactly how to find the link (Hint, its in the first post of Dr. Putingham's sticky in the Wizard Upgrading forum and the title is about How to CID Unlock your device. Was that too hard?
i believe you, but i can't find it...and about 3 days i'm hopeless, because with any ROM version, the phone is still restarting, after reflashing (i didn't flash it with tmobile original rom)...please please, give me the link of the topic...
Ok,
I have posted this problem in a couple of threads, but it always seems to get lost in the page after page of other questions.
Here is my problem. I have been reading this forum for weeks in preparation of upgrading my Cingular 8125. I got it 2 weeks ago, but still spent another week reading the tutorials and FAQ's so I wouldn't be a nuisance poster. Well things have gone so badly that I really need help.
I have a Cingular 8125, IPL/SPL 2.25 I have button flashed it over 20 times and I get an IPL of 1.08, but my SPL is still 2.25. I have tried other flashing methods, other files. I tried Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102. I have cleared the computer with nothing running. Booted and re-booted. I have gone back to 2.25 and tried button again and again.
I am so disappointed because I have spent so much time at this site, but can't even get past the first step towards flashing a new ROM. Please, any help would be appreciated.
How do I get my SPL down from 2.25
Steve
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Ok,
I have posted this problem in a couple of threads, but it always seems to get lost in the page after page of other questions.
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You should reply to your existing thread after a day or two to get it on top of the list again, should you haven't gotten the answer you need instead of creating countless threads over time about the same issue
Here is my problem. I have been reading this forum for weeks in preparation of upgrading my Cingular 8125. I got it 2 weeks ago, but still spent another week reading the tutorials and FAQ's so I wouldn't be a nuisance poster. Well things have gone so badly that I really need help.
I have a Cingular 8125, IPL/SPL 2.25 I have button flashed it over 20 times and I get an IPL of 1.08, but my SPL is still 2.25. I have tried other flashing methods, other files. I tried Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102. I have cleared the computer with nothing running. Booted and re-booted. I have gone back to 2.25 and tried button again and again.
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It sounds like your phone is CID locked (this is something different as SIM-locked btw). I do not really know if this also affects whether or not you are able to flash IPL/SPL but it affects flashing the OS for sure.
I am so disappointed because I have spent so much time at this site, but can't even get past the first step towards flashing a new ROM. Please, any help would be appreciated. How do I get my SPL down from 2.25
Steve
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Keep trying and looking, and eventually you will find a solution.
check the stickies and sure itll help you a lot. or if you an IM(ym/live) im glad to help you out. just pm me your id
happen to me too
hi there ..
check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
at step # 13
13. You will see a screen that has ...
U. Unlock
L. Lock
C. CID Unlock (SuperCID)
Q. Quit
first key in "U" to unlock and then
you should key in letter "C" for cid unlock .
check step #16 you will see
16. Watch the rebooting of your PDA, if BOTH IPL and SPL are 1.xx then great. Quite probably your IPL will be 1.xx and your SPL will be 2.xx. Rerun the button 1.05 ROM downgrade a second time and it will become 1.x on both IPL and SPL. You don't need to redo the unlocking.
Hoang
chev said:
check the stickies and sure itll help you a lot. or if you an IM(ym/live) im glad to help you out. just pm me your id
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I have checked the stickies. Like I said, I 've been reading this site for weeks. I read it late into the night. Frankly, I'm all read out. I now know how to do a lot with this unit if only I could get the SPL down from 2.25.
I've got to get it down from 2.25 so I can run lokiwiz. Please help.
hoangtransport said:
hi there ..
check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
at step # 13
13. You will see a screen that has ...
U. Unlock
L. Lock
C. CID Unlock (SuperCID)
Q. Quit
you should key in letter "C" for cid unlock, not the letter "U" ..
Hoang
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Hoang,
You ran lokiwiz and it worked with an SPL of 2.25? It is my understanding that both IPL/SPL need to be 1.xx for lokiwiz to work. I'll give it a try though.
Steve
as i state , follow that step thru slowly and carfully, you will get it done. But first remember by heart that you have to make sure that you got a "G3" or "G4" ...very IMPORTANT
Hoang
hoangtransport said:
as i state , follow that step thru slowly and carfully, you will get it done. But first remember by heart that you have to make sure that you got a "G3" or "G4" ...very IMPORTANT
Hoang
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Hoang,
Thanks for your replies. I'm sure it is a G3 because my IPL/SPL are 2.xx, not 2.xxx, which I have read is how you tell the difference. I have followed that post word for word.
I have been hitting "U" as the post states and it always fails. I assumed it was because my unit has not downgraded completely following step 2, so I didn't think step 4 would work until step 2 was done right.
But I will try your way as soon as I'm done my coffee and report back. Thanks again for your help.
Steve
ok steve now ...
read this thread do exactly step by step, check the link on that thread for the tool you need ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310831
Hoang
You're on the right track
In addition to the great help that Hoang and other members have given you, I would suggest having the Wizard Unlocking Wiki and Dr Puttinghams Definitive unlocking guide within arm’s reach. Both of these compliment vippies tutorial. Here they are:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Unlocking
Two months ago, I unlocked my 8125 G3 (2.25 IPL/SPL) with no problems refering to all three of the tutorials (I just wanted to be safe).
After you initially downgrade your ROM to the Button ROM (you would only perform this step once)….
You only have to worry about having the same values for both the IPL/SPL after you run Lokiwiz twice (once for sim unlock and the second for the CID unlock). Your wizard will reboot both times, if you did it correctly.
At this point is when you need to make sure that your IPL/SPL are the same (i.e., 1.xx). If it isn’t, then you would be required to run the Button Rom again.
Somebody has gone through the same problems as you have experienced…check out this old thread from last year:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277248&highlight=successfully
Stupid me. I am the perfect example of people who have read things over and over and still missed something.
When running lokiwiz, I copied the enablerapi.cab to my phone, but failed to go back to my phone and extract it.
Everything is perfect now. Phone is SIM and CID unlocked and I am already playing with the ne TNT 5.0 Touchflo edition.
Thanks to Hoang, reynavictor and everyone else who responded.
well, we should thanks to all the people who wrote up the instruction, and all those programer that create new rom for us to flash.
keep in mind that , there will be more new people like you and me suufer thru the unlock step. so prepare to help them out as paying forward ..
btw, how did you feel when you did unlock succcessfully?? just like a kid got a new toy !!! right?????
i'm glad you did it
hoang
hoangtransport said:
well, we should thanks to all the people who wrote up the instruction, and all those programer that create new rom for us to flash.
keep in mind that , there will be more new people like you and me suufer thru the unlock step. so prepare to help them out as paying forward ..
btw, how did you feel when you did unlock succcessfully?? just like a kid got a new toy !!! right?????
i'm glad you did it
hoang
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Hoang,
You are absolutely right. Thanks to all that make these ROM's and tutorials available. It will give me endless hours of fun finding the right ROM for me. And Hoang, yes just like a little kid
Steve
Same issue
Hey I had the same issue with my 8125 on my first attempt. Again, read the tutorials, very important.
This is how my 8125 really became cid unlocked:
[First I used Lokiwiz2 to cid unlock. I then flashed the button rom. When I flashed I had IPL 1.xx and SPL 2.25. I ran the lokiwiz2 again and successfully cid unlocked (prior to this I received an error from lokiwiz). This 2nd unlock attempt with the button rom did it for me. After the cid unlock, I reflashed the button rom and both IPL, SPL were 1.xx.]
Now flash an OEM rom (Tmo or Cingular) so you dont have memory leaks. Now your ready to flash a WM6 rom.
Hope this helps.
hey Guyz. I have a Tilt that a customer gave me that got bricked while trying to flash one of dutty's roms...Problem is that the genius didn't load up Hard SPL even tho he told me that he did...now He wants me to fix it...even tho he didn't follow my instructions and read the WiKi...I kno that on the Hermes it was able to be unbricked. Is the same for the Kaiser possible? I would greatly appreciate your help as my customers are loving the work you guyz do here in nyc..
Thanks in Advance!
Cristian
What is the current status of the phone?
Can you get into the bootloader at all?
If you can get to the bootloader you should be able to load the AT&T AKU v0.4.4 ROM (the unoffical upgraded AT&T ROM). Once you get that loaded you should flash HardSPL immediately.
Let me know how it goes...
Cheers.
I bricked my tilt when it was less than 24 hours old... I recovered it with a BETA of the ATT rom and THEN redoing the hardspl thingy - worked a treat.
Do a search for tolt bricked and you should find afew threads for it.
The rom is called something like RUU_Kaiser_ATT_WWE....._Internal.exe
It goes to the Tri-Color Screen but stays there..I'll go ahead and research it so I can find the original AT&T and load it up...It shows a lot..workin for at&t and being a member on xda...U guyz have no idea how ya make life easier for my tilt customers b/c at&t truly dropped the ball on the rom...and by offering alternatives..u make the user experience so much better...thanks!
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It goes to the Tri-Color Screen but stays there..I'll go ahead and research it so I can find the original AT&T and load it up...It shows a lot..workin for at&t and being a member on xda...U guyz have no idea how ya make life easier for my tilt customers b/c at&t truly dropped the ball on the rom...and by offering alternatives..u make the user experience so much better...thanks!
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If you are at the bootloader screen (Tri-Color) then the phone is not bricked. In the sticky at the top on how to revert back for warranty replacement, it has links for the various roms. Just flash an official AT&T rom on it and you should be good to go. Then do the HardSPL.
Cool that you work for AT&T and hang out here! If you have any other warranty returns, I can give you my address as I wouldn't mind having a backup or two...
BTW: The AT&T ROM for the Tilt is actually quite good in the big picture of things. At least the phone is usable (slower than it should be and less memory than it should have, but its still very usable and stable on the official rom). If you want to ***** about official roms, go back to the 8125 and its official rom. The while the device (at the time) was great, that rom made the phone almost worthless (super slow, battery problems, bad radio, dropped calls, freezing, etc). I can't tell you how many people that run custom roms on the Wizard just can't believe what that phone is actually capable of.
Ok, sorry, got off topic there...
does Hard-SPL needs to be flashed just once on a device or does it need to be installed every tome a new ROM is going to be Flashed onto it?
mfrazzz said:
If you are at the bootloader screen (Tri-Color) then the phone is not bricked. In the sticky at the top on how to revert back for warranty replacement, it has links for the various roms. Just flash an official AT&T rom on it and you should be good to go. Then do the HardSPL.
Cool that you work for AT&T and hang out here! If you have any other warranty returns, I can give you my address as I wouldn't mind having a backup or two...
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For some reason, it's not being recognized by my Activesync. I got it to recognize it but now it sayz Error 294: Invalid Vendor ID...I'm using the RUU_Cingular_WWE Rom for the Kaiser...so I'm flabbergasted at this point...
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does Hard-SPL needs to be flashed just once on a device or does it need to be installed every tome a new ROM is going to be Flashed onto it?
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Only once! Than you can flash as much as you like!
HTCFAN0923 said:
For some reason, it's not being recognized by my Activesync. I got it to recognize it but now it sayz Error 294: Invalid Vendor ID...I'm using the RUU_Cingular_WWE Rom for the Kaiser...so I'm flabbergasted at this point...
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ActiveSync will not recognize your device when in BootLoader mode!
The Vendor ID error means the ROM cannot be loaded on the Tilt without HardSPL. You need an original Tilt ROM. (That's what I think about this)
HTCFAN0923 said:
It goes to the Tri-Color Screen but stays there..I'll go ahead and research it so I can find the original AT&T and load it up...It shows a lot..workin for at&t and being a member on xda...U guyz have no idea how ya make life easier for my tilt customers b/c at&t truly dropped the ball on the rom...and by offering alternatives..u make the user experience so much better...thanks!
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Oddly enough the "Original" Tilt ROM will not install on a Tilt that does not already have HardSPL on it (to spell it out for you, the CID of the ROM does not match the Tilt's stock SPL). If you check the "reverting back" sticky you'll find all this info already, though it is deep in the thread.
The AKU v.0.4.4 ATT Beta ROM does have the correct CID and will flash on a stock Tilt. SO that is what you are forced to resort to at this point. Once you get the beta ROM installed you can (and probably should) install HardSPL.
After all that, if you decide you want to return or warranty the phone follow the "revert" thread to restore it to "stock" form.
Some additional notes on your problem...
ActiveSync will not connect in Bootloader mode (this is expected). You should see a device show up in Device Manager however, I can't recall the exact description however.
quick flash procedure:
put phone in bootloader
connect usb cable
install ROM
FYI, the problem may not be a bricked tilt... you could try Pof's fix which involves using MTTY.exe to boot the phone, depending on how your "customer" tried to flash it it may just need a kick in the pants to restore it. (search Pof's SSPL for the Kaiser thread for instructions, the thread was closed so you will have to look deep).
<climbing on my soapbox>
Lastly... your use of the word "customer" concerns me... are you charging people for the work you do to their phones? If so, do you donate to the people who make it possible? I'm probably just misunderstanding you, but if you're profiting from others work, perhaps you should contribute (especially if you're coming here to ask for help).
</climbing down>
Good Luck!
Cheers.
Customers as in I work for an AT&T corporate owned Retail location and they have bought Tilts from me. They kno my Tilt has been modded and they usually want to do the same. I don't charge them for doing mods to their Tilts. This still remains a community where we help each other and I cherish that. Greed has no place here.
as far as ur suggestions...It looks like I'm gonna be drunk @ 4am on XDA tonite...lol...
HTCFAN0923 said:
Customers as in I work for an AT&T corporate owned Retail location and they have bought Tilts from me. They kno my Tilt has been modded and they usually want to do the same. I don't charge them for doing mods to their Tilts. This still remains a community where we help each other and I cherish that. Greed has no place here.
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That's cool... my misunderstanding then. Hopefully no hard feelings .
All in all it sounds like the guy wants a custom ROM so you should probably get the ATT Beta ROM and install that. And then install HardSPL.
Check Kyphur's second post in the thread below for the ROM you want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343198
Thanks for the info sycho...I'll get to it after work..
Good news! The AKU 0.33 worked! Thanks for ur help sycho!
how can i re-install the window? at tilt 8925
i have wm6.1
i want to reset it so the error message shud gone like Recover ?
@kaal,
It seems what you want to do is a HARD RESET. Please visit Kaiser Wiki and read through. You'll know your phone better that way.
@HTCFan & Sirsycho, Glad you both sort it out in the community spirit Cheers!
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Oddly enough the "Original" Tilt ROM will not install on a Tilt that does not already have HardSPL on it (to spell it out for you, the CID of the ROM does not match the Tilt's stock SPL). If you check the "reverting back" sticky you'll find all this info already, though it is deep in the thread.
The AKU v.0.4.4 ATT Beta ROM does have the correct CID and will flash on a stock Tilt. SO that is what you are forced to resort to at this point. Once you get the beta ROM installed you can (and probably should) install HardSPL.
After all that, if you decide you want to return or warranty the phone follow the "revert" thread to restore it to "stock" form.
Some additional notes on your problem...
ActiveSync will not connect in Bootloader mode (this is expected). You should see a device show up in Device Manager however, I can't recall the exact description however.
quick flash procedure:
put phone in bootloader
connect usb cable
install ROM
FYI, the problem may not be a bricked tilt... you could try Pof's fix which involves using MTTY.exe to boot the phone, depending on how your "customer" tried to flash it it may just need a kick in the pants to restore it. (search Pof's SSPL for the Kaiser thread for instructions, the thread was closed so you will have to look deep).
<climbing on my soapbox>
Lastly... your use of the word "customer" concerns me... are you charging people for the work you do to their phones? If so, do you donate to the people who make it possible? I'm probably just misunderstanding you, but if you're profiting from others work, perhaps you should contribute (especially if you're coming here to ask for help).
</climbing down>
Good Luck!
Cheers.
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Because of you folks and this thread, I have a working device as opposed to a paperweight...Thanks!!!
OK please don't flame me as I am going round and round in circles jumping from one thread link to another trying to get to grips with this stuff!
OK...
The other day I tried to install the hardspl and got the white screen problem.
I followed the thread to sort that out and all appeard ok and the phone continued to work OK under HTC stock 6.1
Yesterday I flashed L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V8_light release and have been playing around with it trying to sort stuff out.
I then started reading the thread about ultimate radios and trying to work out what other radios work with this ROM and how I go about installing them and read I need to confirm the spl I am on and so did the hold camera button and reset to see the spl version.
It says the following:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.0liPof
CPLD-8
Now from what I understand it should say SPL-3.2X or similar?
But it does not?
I thought that I needed the SPL-3.2X etc in order to flash cooked ROMS but it looks like I dont have that......so how was I able to flask L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V8_light release ?
Thanks
pachjo said:
OK please don't flame me as I am going round and round in circles jumping from one thread link to another trying to get to grips with this stuff!
OK...
The other day I tried to install the hardspl and got the white screen problem.
I followed the thread to sort that out and all appeard ok and the phone continued to work OK under HTC stock 6.1
Yesterday I flashed L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V8_light release and have been playing around with it trying to sort stuff out.
I then started reading the thread about ultimate radios and trying to work out what other radios work with this ROM and how I go about installing them and read I need to confirm the spl I am on and so did the hold camera button and reset to see the spl version.
It says the following:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.0liPof
CPLD-8
Now from what I understand it should say SPL-3.2X or similar?
But it does not?
I thought that I needed the SPL-3.2X etc in order to flash cooked ROMS but it looks like I dont have that......so how was I able to flask L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V8_light release ?
Thanks
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Read the SQL Questions thread in the Wiki. It will explain a lot of this to you.
In short, any HardSPL will allow you to flash, it's just the 3.* ones are more compatable with the latest WM6.1 builds.
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Normally I'd flame you for this, but Im already flaming another noob atm That doesn't mean someone else wont flame you later.
Ta
Dave
pachjo said:
OK please don't flame me as I am going round and round in circles jumping from one thread link to another trying to get to grips with this stuff!
OK...
The other day I tried to install the hardspl and got the white screen problem.
I followed the thread to sort that out and all appeard ok and the phone continued to work OK under HTC stock 6.1
Yesterday I flashed L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V8_light release and have been playing around with it trying to sort stuff out.
I then started reading the thread about ultimate radios and trying to work out what other radios work with this ROM and how I go about installing them and read I need to confirm the spl I am on and so did the hold camera button and reset to see the spl version.
It says the following:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.0liPof
CPLD-8
Now from what I understand it should say SPL-3.2X or similar?
But it does not?
I thought that I needed the SPL-3.2X etc in order to flash cooked ROMS but it looks like I dont have that......so how was I able to flask L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V8_light release ?
Thanks
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If you are able to flash a ROM onto your device, then you must have an UNLOCKED phone. For simple instructions on upgrading to the new SPL I suggest you visit the following :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398565&highlight=step
Good luck.
Well I am sure I am gonna get flamed for this post, but here goes....
BTW "I AM NOT MOANING OR PICKING FOR AN ARGUMENT" I know this info here is given as is and appreciate the time people spend putting it all together
For the noob there is a trillion things to read here all of which lead to another trillion things which lead to ......
This phone flashing is all new to me and as I paid £434 for it I dont want to brick it, a term along with many I have never heard of before coming here.
I digress...
Anyway after reading and trying to understand it all I have flashed my phone and it works a treat and I am happy, just still in the dark about many things.
The thing is as a noob it is extremely daunting to start to read a thread, wiki etc to try to understand about a topic which diverts you to threads which divert, divert, divert so that after 3-4 diversions you foget what it was you were readiing about to start with!
And then you get to the point....I dont understand this...should I post lest I get flamed.......
So basically from a noobs point of view....everyone was a noob at some point, be gentle with us!
OK.....let the pachjo bash commence...........
Not a flame, just my way of working...
You raise some good points about the amount of info here. But like most here I managed to flash my device without posting a single new thread. If I had a problem with a step I posted there.
_Alex_ has consolodated most info into the single sticky. And there are step by step guides and FAQs on the Wiki.
I just took it one topic at a time:
*Found a ROM, said I needed HardSPL.
*Found HardSPL, installed it.
*Flashed ROM.
*No sound, found thread explaining about Radios. Flashed Radio.
*and so on.
I was (and still do) always reading thread that I found related to me learning as I go and helping where I can. I too like you knew nothing when I first joined and no one minds "noobs" asking questions in the relevant threads when they get stuck, but this is ROM development forum. All new threads should pertain to ROM "development".
Ta
Dave
you must use (aka JumpSPL )file before changing the SPL
this jumber must be in your device before flashing the new hard SPL
see hare and read carefuly :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
got it from here also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
cheers
Thanks guys.....am reading away and will take onboard your comments
first off, you can flash any rom with the olipof hardspl 1.0. the problem is, you will get screen freezes every once in a while. Using jumpspl, you can go to another hardspl. Usually jumpspl is included in all the new hardspls, but maybe not. Get familiar with what jumpspl is and then switch to hardspl.
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first off, you can flash any rom with the olipof hardspl 1.0. the problem is, you will get screen freezes every once in a while. Using jumpspl, you can go to another hardspl. Usually jumpspl is included in all the new hardspls, but maybe not. Get familiar with what jumpspl is and then switch to hardspl.
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Yep... I shall do that!
I have gone flash crazy as I am now gonna whack on L26_KaiserDiamond_V9
I am amazed at how fast my apps are loading now I am no longer on the stock ROM!
The phone reception is better, the SRS WOW is fandabbydosey its all good for me, and I have fixed (well found the solution to at least one of my gliches also)
I've always fancied flashing my Kaiser (V1615) with a new ROM, but was always nervous because I wasn't sure of the process and didn't want to risk bricking the phone as well as all the effort needed to get everything back on it I needed. Well, a few days ago my old Kaiser met the floor and an untimely end. So I decided to take the risk and put a new ROM on it and decided on the latest Dutty WM6.1 ROM.
I read all about flashing on here and made as much sense of it as I could. Thing is, I'm very technical in general, but not very familiar with Windows Mobile or flashing. I found there was lots to read, but it was all written with an assumed level of knowledge and understanding of terminology. As a result I found it quite hard to understand. I took the plunge anyway and started, but things didn't work out as expected and I didn't understand why.
I'm not trying to be critical of all the work a lot of people have put into the documentation that is available online, it's just that when I originally approached this with zero flashing experience I found it difficult and confusing to understand. What I really needed was a concise and basic introduction to flashing. I've now been through the process and after re-reading the documentation it makes a lot more sense.
I worked out you need to run something called HardSPL before you could flash a new ROM. I'm still not sure what HardSPL does apart from CID unlock the device, but what does CID unlock mean?
I ran HardSPL v1 and it started ok, but then I ended up with a white screen. At this point I already wished I hadn't started, but no going back now. Is it known why some phones white screen? Turns out it's a common problem, so followed the instructions to recover. All was well again, but still with the original ROM.
I thought I'd be brave and stuck with it and this time tried JumpSPL1.56-KAIS instead of HardSPL as recommended on one of the tutorials. This went better and I ended up with the Tri-Color screen. I plugged my USB cable in and USB showed on screen.
Next step I thought was to flash a ROM onto the device. I ran the Dutty updater on my PC and all started ok, but when the update got to 18% I received a communication error. I tried to recover using the updater, but the same thing happened. At this point the phone wouldn't boot, so I was more than a little worried and wishing I hadn't started!
Found something that described several options for recovering from this problem. I decided to try and flash the device back to the original ROM from Vodafone. When I eventually found that ROM I ran JumpSPL again, got to the Tri-Color screen and ran the updater. This time the update completed successfully and the phone rebooted and was all working again.
I decided to leave the device as it was and started customising it myself. I'd still love to put a cooked ROM on there, especially if it helps with performance, but after the experience above I'm not very confident.
Can anyone tell me where or what went wrong? I'm going to get my old Kaiser repaired and want to try again on that phone.
My flashing routene (not ideal but it works for me)
1) run the first part of the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
2) after device reboots, hold camera button and restart to check SPL
3) Flash rom/radio of choice
4) Follow HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW 's second guide "If you have problems with the above process, try this:" and flash my 3.XX SPL of choice.
Sam
Wow, I need a cuppa now
I'll go through 1 at a time... (and Sam has answered some questions already)
-CID unlock means that when the phone is loading a new device into the ROM the Carrier ID check is removed, each Mobile phone carrier has a different CID in thier OS ROMs. Unlocked means you can flash a OS ROM from any carrier or a cooked OS ROM from this site.
-The Jump SPL should only be used for replacing the SPL. Do not flash anything other than SPL's when at the Jump SPL (or SSPL). OS and Radio ROMs should be flashed from either in Windows Or By Manually Entering the Bootloaders. More info on SPL's is here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
-Have a look at flashing from SD Card to avoid communication problems, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
-The most clear instructions can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Hope this helps.
Dave
Thanks for the advice, but this is what I normally encounter when I read something on here, which is advice which no doubt makes perfect sense to the author or others experienced in flashing, but usually raises more questions than it answers in my head.
For example;
1) run the first part of the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
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What do you mean by the "first part"? The thread you've linked to doesnt really explain what I'm downloading and doing.
2) after device reboots, hold camera button and restart to check SPL
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Ok. I get this assuming you mean the device will reboot automatically and I restart it to check the SPL version that gets shown on the boot screen, but why do I need to do this?
3) Flash rom/radio of choice
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So at this point I can simply plug my device into my PC and run the ROM updater I've downloaded. Working out what rom/radio version to download is a minefield in its own right.
4) Follow HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW 's second guide "If you have problems with the above process, try this:" and flash my 3.XX SPL of choice.
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I thought HardSPL needed to be run before I flashed? Also, why the different versions? Which one do I choose?
BTW, not trying to moan about everything, just posting my experiences to find out where I went wrong, but also highlight some issues hopefully other flashing newbies can relate to and authors of tutorials can draw some useful feedback from.
Only one question, do I need to CID Unlock before using Jump and HardSpl or, the Hardspl does the Supercid ?
I'm not referring about SIM since I don't care, for now
With WM6.1 - Oficiall HTC ROM
Thanks
Thanks for that one dave, on reflection i kinda missed the whole point of the thread, and as for the majority of the stuff you posted i didnt undertand that to begin with.
Also, DaveTME, if you are wanting to flash a custom rom to youre kaiser. from my experiance and from the number of times ive seen this happen. i advise against asking for reccomendations(sp?) (not saying you will but its worth saying) try a few roms out and decide from there.
Also another thing to note. if you flash to WM6.1 remember to use a 3.xx spl otherwise you'll encounter a few problems with youre device.
Sam
What do you mean by the "first part"? The thread you've linked to doesnt really explain what I'm downloading and doing.
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download the Kaiser unlocker and run the first stage of it, the program is in the linked thread.
Ok. I get this assuming you mean the device will reboot automatically and I restart it to check the SPL version that gets shown on the boot screen, but why do I need to do this?
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No, after the device reboots, youre given youre Rom, Protocol and Radio. if you hold the camera button and reset you'll get youre SPL displayed, youre looking for 1.01 olinex to be shown
So at this point I can simply plug my device into my PC and run the ROM updater I've downloaded. Working out what rom/radio version to download is a minefield in its own right.
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1) Yes, just run the RUU with youre chosen rom and thats it
2) its not a minefield, just make a decision on what rom you like and flash it. theres nothing to stop you flashing another one.
I thought HardSPL needed to be run before I flashed? Also, why the different versions? Which one do I choose?
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The 1.01 SPL will allow you to flash a cutom rom. following that you need a 3.xx SPL as they are designed for windows mobile 6.1. as for yure decision. i use 3.29, yet other users have had better sucess with 3.56. Most rom chefs will say which SPL they reccomend anyway with their rom.
-CID unlock means that when the phone is loading a new device into the ROM the Carrier ID check is removed, each Mobile phone carrier has a different CID in thier OS ROMs. Unlocked means you can flash a OS ROM from any carrier or a cooked OS ROM from this site.
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Great. Thanks for that. Makes perfect sense now
-The Jump SPL should only be used for replacing the SPL. Do not flash anything other than SPL's when at the Jump SPL (or SSPL). OS and Radio ROMs should be flashed from either in Windows Or By Manually Entering the Bootloaders. More info on SPL's is here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
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Ok. I think you mean that the SPL is a component on the device? What is the difference between HardSPL and JumpSPL?
-Have a look at flashing from SD Card to avoid communication problems, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
-The most clear instructions can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Hope this helps.
Dave
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Thanks, will have a read
DaveTME said:
Ok. I think you mean that the SPL is a component on the device? What is the difference between HardSPL and JumpSPL?
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Read the "SPL Questions" Wiki Page, it is all there and fairly clear.
Ta
Dave