I've always fancied flashing my Kaiser (V1615) with a new ROM, but was always nervous because I wasn't sure of the process and didn't want to risk bricking the phone as well as all the effort needed to get everything back on it I needed. Well, a few days ago my old Kaiser met the floor and an untimely end. So I decided to take the risk and put a new ROM on it and decided on the latest Dutty WM6.1 ROM.
I read all about flashing on here and made as much sense of it as I could. Thing is, I'm very technical in general, but not very familiar with Windows Mobile or flashing. I found there was lots to read, but it was all written with an assumed level of knowledge and understanding of terminology. As a result I found it quite hard to understand. I took the plunge anyway and started, but things didn't work out as expected and I didn't understand why.
I'm not trying to be critical of all the work a lot of people have put into the documentation that is available online, it's just that when I originally approached this with zero flashing experience I found it difficult and confusing to understand. What I really needed was a concise and basic introduction to flashing. I've now been through the process and after re-reading the documentation it makes a lot more sense.
I worked out you need to run something called HardSPL before you could flash a new ROM. I'm still not sure what HardSPL does apart from CID unlock the device, but what does CID unlock mean?
I ran HardSPL v1 and it started ok, but then I ended up with a white screen. At this point I already wished I hadn't started, but no going back now. Is it known why some phones white screen? Turns out it's a common problem, so followed the instructions to recover. All was well again, but still with the original ROM.
I thought I'd be brave and stuck with it and this time tried JumpSPL1.56-KAIS instead of HardSPL as recommended on one of the tutorials. This went better and I ended up with the Tri-Color screen. I plugged my USB cable in and USB showed on screen.
Next step I thought was to flash a ROM onto the device. I ran the Dutty updater on my PC and all started ok, but when the update got to 18% I received a communication error. I tried to recover using the updater, but the same thing happened. At this point the phone wouldn't boot, so I was more than a little worried and wishing I hadn't started!
Found something that described several options for recovering from this problem. I decided to try and flash the device back to the original ROM from Vodafone. When I eventually found that ROM I ran JumpSPL again, got to the Tri-Color screen and ran the updater. This time the update completed successfully and the phone rebooted and was all working again.
I decided to leave the device as it was and started customising it myself. I'd still love to put a cooked ROM on there, especially if it helps with performance, but after the experience above I'm not very confident.
Can anyone tell me where or what went wrong? I'm going to get my old Kaiser repaired and want to try again on that phone.
My flashing routene (not ideal but it works for me)
1) run the first part of the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
2) after device reboots, hold camera button and restart to check SPL
3) Flash rom/radio of choice
4) Follow HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW 's second guide "If you have problems with the above process, try this:" and flash my 3.XX SPL of choice.
Sam
Wow, I need a cuppa now
I'll go through 1 at a time... (and Sam has answered some questions already)
-CID unlock means that when the phone is loading a new device into the ROM the Carrier ID check is removed, each Mobile phone carrier has a different CID in thier OS ROMs. Unlocked means you can flash a OS ROM from any carrier or a cooked OS ROM from this site.
-The Jump SPL should only be used for replacing the SPL. Do not flash anything other than SPL's when at the Jump SPL (or SSPL). OS and Radio ROMs should be flashed from either in Windows Or By Manually Entering the Bootloaders. More info on SPL's is here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
-Have a look at flashing from SD Card to avoid communication problems, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
-The most clear instructions can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Hope this helps.
Dave
Thanks for the advice, but this is what I normally encounter when I read something on here, which is advice which no doubt makes perfect sense to the author or others experienced in flashing, but usually raises more questions than it answers in my head.
For example;
1) run the first part of the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
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What do you mean by the "first part"? The thread you've linked to doesnt really explain what I'm downloading and doing.
2) after device reboots, hold camera button and restart to check SPL
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Ok. I get this assuming you mean the device will reboot automatically and I restart it to check the SPL version that gets shown on the boot screen, but why do I need to do this?
3) Flash rom/radio of choice
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So at this point I can simply plug my device into my PC and run the ROM updater I've downloaded. Working out what rom/radio version to download is a minefield in its own right.
4) Follow HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW 's second guide "If you have problems with the above process, try this:" and flash my 3.XX SPL of choice.
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I thought HardSPL needed to be run before I flashed? Also, why the different versions? Which one do I choose?
BTW, not trying to moan about everything, just posting my experiences to find out where I went wrong, but also highlight some issues hopefully other flashing newbies can relate to and authors of tutorials can draw some useful feedback from.
Only one question, do I need to CID Unlock before using Jump and HardSpl or, the Hardspl does the Supercid ?
I'm not referring about SIM since I don't care, for now
With WM6.1 - Oficiall HTC ROM
Thanks
Thanks for that one dave, on reflection i kinda missed the whole point of the thread, and as for the majority of the stuff you posted i didnt undertand that to begin with.
Also, DaveTME, if you are wanting to flash a custom rom to youre kaiser. from my experiance and from the number of times ive seen this happen. i advise against asking for reccomendations(sp?) (not saying you will but its worth saying) try a few roms out and decide from there.
Also another thing to note. if you flash to WM6.1 remember to use a 3.xx spl otherwise you'll encounter a few problems with youre device.
Sam
What do you mean by the "first part"? The thread you've linked to doesnt really explain what I'm downloading and doing.
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download the Kaiser unlocker and run the first stage of it, the program is in the linked thread.
Ok. I get this assuming you mean the device will reboot automatically and I restart it to check the SPL version that gets shown on the boot screen, but why do I need to do this?
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No, after the device reboots, youre given youre Rom, Protocol and Radio. if you hold the camera button and reset you'll get youre SPL displayed, youre looking for 1.01 olinex to be shown
So at this point I can simply plug my device into my PC and run the ROM updater I've downloaded. Working out what rom/radio version to download is a minefield in its own right.
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1) Yes, just run the RUU with youre chosen rom and thats it
2) its not a minefield, just make a decision on what rom you like and flash it. theres nothing to stop you flashing another one.
I thought HardSPL needed to be run before I flashed? Also, why the different versions? Which one do I choose?
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The 1.01 SPL will allow you to flash a cutom rom. following that you need a 3.xx SPL as they are designed for windows mobile 6.1. as for yure decision. i use 3.29, yet other users have had better sucess with 3.56. Most rom chefs will say which SPL they reccomend anyway with their rom.
-CID unlock means that when the phone is loading a new device into the ROM the Carrier ID check is removed, each Mobile phone carrier has a different CID in thier OS ROMs. Unlocked means you can flash a OS ROM from any carrier or a cooked OS ROM from this site.
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Great. Thanks for that. Makes perfect sense now
-The Jump SPL should only be used for replacing the SPL. Do not flash anything other than SPL's when at the Jump SPL (or SSPL). OS and Radio ROMs should be flashed from either in Windows Or By Manually Entering the Bootloaders. More info on SPL's is here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
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Ok. I think you mean that the SPL is a component on the device? What is the difference between HardSPL and JumpSPL?
-Have a look at flashing from SD Card to avoid communication problems, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
-The most clear instructions can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Hope this helps.
Dave
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Thanks, will have a read
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Ok. I think you mean that the SPL is a component on the device? What is the difference between HardSPL and JumpSPL?
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Read the "SPL Questions" Wiki Page, it is all there and fairly clear.
Ta
Dave
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Hy everyone. I tried installing NBD 8.1, 8.2, and 8.3 on my phone today and it goes well. It says it has finished updating my phone and then when I start my phone, it says its being customized and I see everything being installed. After it is done installing, it resets. When it resets it is just the same old thing. It looks the same way it did when I first bought the phone. Im using a Cingular 8125 if it makes any difference. Thanks.
Your phone is still CID locked.
Follow this tutorial to unlock it, and follow the steps closely.
i wouldnt follow that tutorial just yet. You still need to give us a little more information like if your wizard is a G3/G4. You can only cidunlock your wizard if it is a G3.
I wonder why newbies are always told to CID unlock...
Shelltool works perfectly for flashing new OS (I flashed my CID locked G4 at least 6 times) and there should not be any risk of bricking the phone...
Mirek
mirekluza said:
I wonder why newbies are always told to CID unlock...
Shelltool works perfectly for flashing new OS (I flashed my CID locked G4 at least 6 times) and there should not be any risk of bricking the phone...
Mirek
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I agree! I'd been flashing my G4 phone from about 5 months ago with different ROMs (almost continuously)... ShellTool is the best tool that I tried to flash ROMs without risk.
Cheers!
mirekluza said:
I wonder why newbies are always told to CID unlock...
Shelltool works perfectly for flashing new OS (I flashed my CID locked G4 at least 6 times) and there should not be any risk of bricking the phone...
Mirek
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nobody bothers to read anymore and dont know what the search link looks like. The just jump on the bandwagon. But its true i had a hard time following some instructions but i got through it.
Really??
I used shelltool 2 times without problem, but then i get the 1 time a message - flashing done after 8 minutes and the flash wasnt really on the phone. Since then i use RUU (which is in the love wizard rom package) and it works for me.
Today i tried flashing nbd 8.3 to faria aku 3.3 and other faria rom with aku 4. In both casec the flashing stoped at 99% and i had to reflash it with nbd rom.
The flash didnt end , cause i have cid-locked phone?? I would like to have a newer aku(i have 2.3). HELP
I used Shelltool to install the rom I had. It finished after about ten minutes, and then I hard reset my device.
Whenever I start my phone up now it just hangs on the Cingular start up screen and this is what it says.
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 02.25.11
OS 6.6.6.666
Any idea what went wrong or if there is any way to fix this?
Thanks
Are you using Vista?
Nope. I used Windows XP Pro.
I had the same problem with shelltool on xp pro sp2. Get the phone in bootloader mode and flash again. Maybe with RUU , which is in the wizard love rom package. Just replace the .nkb file (rom file) to one u want.
I don't like this topic name. It should be: "I don't know how to install new rom"
A few advices from long time shelltool user
(I used it to flash "faria real thing", several version of "crossbow reloaded", "xda mobile", "pandora", "wrcx3"). I am on a locked G4 phone.
a) I always start by flashing the original ROM of my provider (in my case T-Mobile CZ) in normal way. This may not be a needed, but I read that it is *recommended*to flash your provider's ROM to have some stable base. It takes about 10 minutes or so.
b) Afterwards I flash using shelltool (see shelltool documentation how it is done)
Possible problems with shelltool
a) It does not end and the flashed phone seems to be frozen (clock is not updated etc.):
No problem, flash is done. After 30 minutes from the flash start just take your phone, do the hard reset and everything will work ok.
This (shelltool not ending) happens often, but as I said - it is no problem.
b) The wrong flash
Either the shelltool is interrupted prematurely or it the phone freezes during restart afterwards.
No problem, just reflash your provider's ROM in normal way and try again shelltool.
This happens only very rarely and I never went through this more than once.
Conclusion
Since the shelltool is limited to flashing only OS, you should not ever brick your phone in this way... The most you can do is to screw up your OS - which can be quickly recovered by flashing the official ROM from your provider.
Flashing by normal way is more dangerous: if you flash a locked phone with the ROM containing more than just OS, you can easily brick your phone (if you flash ROM just with the OS you will wonder that nothing has changed - at least this is like I understand it).
Mirek
zoki said:
I don't like this topic name. It should be: "I don't know how to install new rom"
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I have to agree with you Zoki. Has nothing to do with your ROM.
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I don't like this topic name. It should be: "I don't know how to install new rom"
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I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you or anything. I just thought I did it the right way the first time and that something went wrong but not on my part because I followed directions doing it. I'm not saying anything bad about the rom. Sorry!!
I'll try to do it with the RUU then. Thanks a lot.
I have problems to use the Hard-Spl v1. I have a new HTC-Kaiser from T-Mobile. I start the Application HARD-SPL (I want to upgrating with Dutty´s ROM)
I run the kaiser-hardSPL.exe on Computer (PC)
I follow instructions on screen!!!!!
on the mobile i the question to start the applikation i answer Yes and then i get a with screen on the HTC Kaiser. NO tri-color-screen !!!
Please help, thx
Thomas
Thomas_Germany_Hamburg said:
I have problems to use the Hard-Spl v1. I have a new HTC-Kaiser from T-Mobile. I start the Application HARD-SPL (I want to upgrating with Dutty´s ROM)
I run the kaiser-hardSPL.exe on Computer (PC)
I follow instructions on screen!!!!!
on the mobile i the question to start the applikation i answer Yes and then i get a with screen on the HTC Kaiser. NO tri-color-screen !!!
Please help, thx
Thomas
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From what I've read you need to remove your sim card and your microsd card then try again
There is no simcard and microsd in the htc Kaiser.
on the HTC Kaiser is the original T-Mobile software, nothing else
Perhaps your problem is related to new SPL... take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349476
Cheers.
When your phone is booting up, look in the lower right corner. If you have a line that reads:
D 1.57.00.00
Then you most likely have the issue in the thread mentioned by jcespi2005. If you have:
D 1.56.00.00
Then its probably something else (as 1.56.00.00 should be able to do the HardSPL).
Why not flash the old SPL to the device then you can use Hard_SPL. I havent checked but arent there original ROM available(of course CID/carrier specific) from before 1.57.
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Why not flash the old SPL to the device then you can use Hard_SPL. I havent checked but arent there original ROM available(of course CID/carrier specific) from before 1.57.
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The real problem is SSPL used to flash HardSPL is not working with this one, so you can't go back to previous SPL... don't know what shipped ROMs are out that allows flash over this SPL...but perhaps this can be a way to go...
Cheers.
The Rom of my Phone is d.1.56.00.00 !
I do a hardreset, but Hard SPL dont work!
well... for the Tilt you can't flash the "official" ROM back to the device because of an "Invalid Vendor ID", I'm not sure why this is but it just doesn't work. You can however flash the AKU0.4.4 ROM to an unmodified Tilt so the CID apparently is good on that ROM. However I've done this and it does not fix the "white screen" issue on the affected devices.
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well... for the Tilt you can't flash the "official" ROM back to the device because of an "Invalid Vendor ID", I'm not sure why this is but it just doesn't work. You can however flash the AKU0.4.4 ROM to an unmodified Tilt so the CID apparently is good on that ROM. However I've done this and it does not fix the "white screen" issue on the affected devices.
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oh well it was an idea. Another reason for me to put off the Tilt purchase.
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oh well it was an idea. Another reason for me to put off the Tilt purchase.
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I might be returning mine because of this. Bummer.
Hi everyone,
I think I may have bricked my Kaiser. I've been following some similar threads but nothing seems to be working to fix the problem.
I was going through the process to flash a new Rom, starting with installing HardSPL following this thread I was. I was having problems, I think because I have the 1.82 ROM version.
Finally, I thought I had HardSPL installed, so I continued to run KaiserCustomRUU.exe. This completed (jumped from 0% to 100%) very quickly. However, I reset my phone and it is now stuck in the tri-color bootloader screen
The screen has the says:
KAIS130
SPL-1.82.0000
CPLD-8
and has the letters RUUNBH in the top right corner.
I've tried removing the battery and resetting, but the phone always goes back to this screen. I've also tried running mtty, but without success. The command 'readconfig' returned a result 'Command error !!!'.
does anyone know of anything else I can try?
Small bit of good news: if I issue the command 'boot' using mtty, my phone boots into my original ROM successfully, with the mtty output:
InitDisplay: Display_Chip=1
No card inserted
OSSIReadBack ++
Read SI data from flash success
tail signature match
Checksum match
UserStorageSIPreload ++
It takes a long time to boot (like a couple of minutes), but it does eventually boots up fine. When I reset, I'm back at the tri-color screen though
If your at the tri-color screen, just reflash a new rom
Im not an expert but when its at the tri colour screen, try to flash Hard SPL again, it should pick it up and flash i believe.
If that goes through ok, then do the same to flash another ROM.
Again no expert at unbricking but its definately worth a try
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Small bit of good news: if I issue the command 'boot' using mtty, my phone boots into my original ROM successfully, with the mtty output:
InitDisplay: Display_Chip=1
No card inserted
OSSIReadBack ++
Read SI data from flash success
tail signature match
Checksum match
UserStorageSIPreload ++
It takes a long time to boot (like a couple of minutes), but it does eventually boots up fine. When I reset, I'm back at the tri-color screen though
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Try this.
1.) Open ActiveSync and navigate to File > Connection Settings - Uncheck Allow USB connections.
2.) Download this ROM http://rapidshare.com/files/5781641...dio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.rar.html and flash it to your device.
That should work for you.
hi alltheway. thanks for the advice!
I don't want to sound ungrateful, but are you sure the above is safe? I just don't want to make a wrong step now and totally screw up the device (now that I can successfully do a manual boot using mtty).
I know you can't guarantee it but is this what others who are stuck in the bootloader have done?
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hi alltheway. thanks for the advice!
I don't want to sound ungrateful, but are you sure the above is safe? I just don't want to make a wrong step now and totally screw up the device (now that I can successfully do a manual boot using mtty).
I know you can't guarantee it but is this what others who are stuck in the bootloader have done?
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I had this problem about 2 weeks ago.
I was flashing one of Dutty's Great ROMs and I lost power at the house and shut down my computer when I was 46% done.
I had the same RUUNBH in the top right hand corner. All I did to fix this was flash a factory shipped ROM like the one I provided to you and it worked great. No issue thus far.
Honestly I can't gurantee 100% if this will totally fix your problem but I am 95% sure.
Unless some other users have an answer for you I think this will be your best solution. Regardless of what you do you will have to flash to a new ROM anyways.
Also, I'm a bit dubious on whether i will be able to flash to that ROM. I don't think I have the right HardSPL installed to flash roms (see what my boot-loader screen says in the first post).
I'm no expert though.... obviously
Thanks for all the info alltheway. I'm too tired now (will probably f*ck the thing up even further! ), so I'll try flashing this tomorrow.
Here's some more info I've collected using mtty (my phone is an O2 XDA Stellar):
Code:
Cmd>info 2
HTCSO2___001¯JG±HTCE
Cmd>getdevinfo
GetDevInfo: Get CID OK
HTCSKAIS1300O__0HTCE
New Thread
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355910
Hi tqm. I've been following that post but as far as I can tell there is no solution there yet.
From what I can tell from that thread (and others), the only way stop the phone booting to the tri-color screen (in RUUNBH mode) is to flash with a ROM that matches the vendor. I think because I haven't been able to install HardSPL properly, my phone's version of SSPL will only load O2 ROMs (could be wrong here, but that's the picture I'm building ). Unfortunately no-one seems to have extracted the ROM from an XDA Stellar :\
I believe alltheway's solution above worked for him because he had HardSPL installed properly. He could load the stock ROM to fix the phone, because his SSPL version allowed different ROMs to be loaded. I'm not certain of this, and I'll probably try his suggested solution when I get home today... but I'm not too confident.
If only there was an mtty command to just get the phone out of 'RUUNBH' mode. I've seen the command 'task 8' mentioned on here, but it doesn't work when I try it. Does anyone know of a list of mtty commands for the Kaiser anywhere?
Definitely flash the original ROM, it will get your device to the default HTC shipped state.
Then sync phone with ActiveSync, install HardSPL again and then flash custom ROM.
I remember i had the same issue but the original rom is a lifesaver
You mean the original HTC ROM? or the original O2 ROM? (what my phone originally came with)
If I don't have one of the HardSPL versions posted on the forums (I believe they never installed properly, which is what caused all my problems I think), will I still be able to flash the stock HTC ROM:
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe
Basically my questions is: is this stock HTC ROM flash-able to ALL kaisers? (even without downloading/installing HardSPL from the forums)
If not (i.e. I can't flash even the stock HTC ROM), is it expected that if I can't successfully install HardSPL, my Kaiser will only accept O2 ROMS?
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You mean the original HTC ROM? or the original O2 ROM? (what my phone originally came with)
If I don't have one of the HardSPL versions posted on the forums (I believe they never installed properly, which is what caused all my problems I think), will I still be able to flash the stock HTC ROM:
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe
Basically my questions is: is this stock HTC ROM flash-able to ALL kaisers? (even without downloading/installing HardSPL from the forums)
If not (i.e. I can't flash even the stock HTC ROM), is it expected that if I can't successfully install HardSPL, my Kaiser will only accept O2 ROMS?
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IMHO the HTC stock ROM should work even without HardSPL, at least for me it worked fine... but just for sure have your O2 stock ROM by hand.
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Im not an expert but when its at the tri colour screen, try to flash Hard SPL again, it should pick it up and flash i believe.
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I don't thinks there's a way to flash HardSPL on tri-color scrren so far, coz activesync cannot connected to computer
the best way is trying to find the phone's offcial ship rom to flash
No luck trying to flash with the stock HTC ROM:
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe
After getting to 1%, it reports an error:
Error [294] : Invalid Vender Id
As suspected, looks like this will only accept an O2 ROM Will have to wait until one is available.
Did you try installing HardSPL and then reflashing?
the stock HTC rom will not load onto your kaiser simply because it is still CID locked to O2's CID code. You HAVE to find the O2 rom that your device came with or any O2 ROM and reflash that and you will be good to go. You may also try and flash HardSPL but I dont think its going to work. But remember have a friend or someone on the forum dump and rebuild the O2 rom for you and just reflash the OS.nb or ROM only no radio!
It is very simple to dump and rebuild a rom so if you have a friend that has a kaiser have him over for an hour and dump his
thats your only shot at this point.
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Did you try installing HardSPL and then reflashing?
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My current ROM version is 1.82. I don't think installing HardSPL has been solved for this ROM version, which I think is where all my problems started. I have tried, but no version of HardSPL (that I've found) will install correctly.
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You HAVE to find the O2 rom that your device came with or any O2 ROM... just reflash the OS.nb or ROM only no radio!
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Thanks for the reply austinsnyc, this is what I'm hoping to do now, I'm watching this thread 'Has anyone dumped the o2 Stellar rom yet ?' closely Maybe I should reconstruct the ROM myself, I'm just a bit worried about arsing that up as well I'd rather someone experienced reconstructed and verified the ROM (on a phone that isn't already messed up).
Out of interest, would you be able to give me a succinct explanation of what is actually wrong with my phone at present? As far as I can tell, the only problem is that the boot-loader is stuck in RUUNBH mode. Has part of the ROM on the phone actually been destroyed?
I'm assuming right now that the point of flashing the O2 ROM is just to make the phone 'finish' a flash and get out of RUUNBH mode. Or is it actually to re-instate something that has been lost?
If it is to reinstate something that's at present lost, is this data definitely part of the os.nb?
If it's just to get the boot-loader out of RUUNBH mode, I'm REALLY gutted that there isn't just a mtty command to do this
Oh yeah, and perceptivepixel.com Ace!
I was trying to follow the many different ways to unlock, Hard SPL, and flash a new ROM but this is just way over my head. I think I may have screwed up my phone. I've been reading for 4 hours and I'm just throughly confused (this was so much easier on th Artemis!). I downloaded the jumpSPL1.56-KAS, ran it from the phone (not the storage card). Then I ran Kaiser-HardSPL-3.56 and that seemed to work fine. Then I tried to run step 1 of the KaiserUnlocker and now it will only show me the AT&T boot screen and nothing else after that. What did I do wrong?
I'm trying to unlock the phone so I can use it on T-Mobile USA and flash a new ROM. I've flashed ROMS before but I just never realized how involved this process was on other devices.
And yes, I can get to the boot loader screen.
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I was trying to follow the many different ways to unlock, Hard SPL, and flash a new ROM but this is just way over my head. I think I may have screwed up my phone. I've been reading for 4 hours and I'm just throughly confused (this was so much easier on th Artemis!). I downloaded the jumpSPL1.56-KAS, ran it from the phone (not the storage card). Then I ran Kaiser-HardSPL-3.56 and that seemed to work fine. Then I tried to run step 1 of the KaiserUnlocker and now it will only show me the AT&T boot screen and nothing else after that. What did I do wrong?
I'm trying to unlock the phone so I can use it on T-Mobile USA and flash a new ROM. I've flashed ROMS before but I just never realized how involved this process was on other devices.
And yes, I can get to the boot loader screen.
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Ick...this sounds like one of a couple of things...either you really screwed it up (btw, even "really screwed up" has been known to be fixable thanks to the super awesome folks here on XDA Devs) or it's a simple fix. My first suggestion would be to put it back into bootloader (just hold the usualy bootloader buttons and stick the stylus up in the Reset hole OR take the batter out and put it back in, your choice I think) and try rerunning everything EXCEPT the KasierUnlocker (btw, dont quote me but I would almost swear KaiserUnlocker needed a special radio flashed in order to properly work...you may wanna head back to that thread and check it out. I unlocked mine with it and I can about guarantee I had a special radio...) and see if it fixes anything OR find a compatible radio and reflash it (well, first off...get it into bootloader and tell us what the bootloader says on it)
Anyways, first things first would be to see what the bootloader is showing and then work from there. Sounds like a little bug so don't freak out too bad. If you think flashing these babies are hard then you really didnt try flashing G4 versions of the Wizard =P I totally bricked one because it was the pesky G4s and I didn't realize it at the time (complete newbness lol) So yeah, Kaiser's are a LOVELY change for me =] I've flashed mine countless times and loved it since the moment I got it! =D
But yeah, gimme info! =]
Did you use WM6.1 or WM6.0 to unlock the phone? Put in boot loader and flash orginal WM6.0 ROM as the other user suggested. You should be able to flash it if it is not a brick.
If it doesn't work you can use mtty to recover your phone, the needed information you'll find in the Kaiser Wiki.
Hope it helps
I just had this exact problem.
Use the EXE included in the tutorial to flash any windows 6.1 ROM from the bootloader via USB, and you will boot again.
HTCOmega said:
Ick...this sounds like one of a couple of things...either you really screwed it up (btw, even "really screwed up" has been known to be fixable thanks to the super awesome folks here on XDA Devs) or it's a simple fix. My first suggestion would be to put it back into bootloader (just hold the usualy bootloader buttons and stick the stylus up in the Reset hole OR take the batter out and put it back in, your choice I think) and try rerunning everything EXCEPT the KasierUnlocker (btw, dont quote me but I would almost swear KaiserUnlocker needed a special radio flashed in order to properly work...you may wanna head back to that thread and check it out. I unlocked mine with it and I can about guarantee I had a special radio...) and see if it fixes anything OR find a compatible radio and reflash it (well, first off...get it into bootloader and tell us what the bootloader says on it)
Anyways, first things first would be to see what the bootloader is showing and then work from there. Sounds like a little bug so don't freak out too bad. If you think flashing these babies are hard then you really didnt try flashing G4 versions of the Wizard =P I totally bricked one because it was the pesky G4s and I didn't realize it at the time (complete newbness lol) So yeah, Kaiser's are a LOVELY change for me =] I've flashed mine countless times and loved it since the moment I got it! =D
But yeah, gimme info! =]
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I know. The crazy thing is that I've successfully flashed a G3 and a G4 Wizard and I still find this confusing.
When I go to the boot loader screen I have:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.Hard
CPLD-8
When I reset the device normally I get:
R 1.27.12.11
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.62.00.00
I didn't try to flash any other ROMS to unlock it. I just went with the hard SPL and then tried the Unlock tool. The phone is stock.
Thanx for the replys. I reflashed the original ROM and now it's working again. This is what I have now:
When I go to the boot loader screen I have:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.Hard
CPLD-8
Now when I reset the device normally I get:
ROM version 1.62.502.0
Radio version 1.27.14.09
Protocal version is 22.45.88.07H
Device info:
Windows Mobil 6
CE OS 5.2.1622 (Build 18128.0.4.4)
Can I go strait to a SIM unlocker and then flash a new ROM?
Well you've got HardSPL 3.56 flashed to it.
Why do you need to sim unlock it? Sim unlocking is not neccesary to flash one of the many Roms avaliable for the Kaiser/Tilt.
Once it's got HardSPL flashed, you're free to flash any type of rom onto it
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I was trying to follow the many different ways to unlock, Hard SPL, and flash a new ROM but this is just way over my head. I think I may have screwed up my phone. I've been reading for 4 hours and I'm just throughly confused (this was so much easier on th Artemis!). I downloaded the jumpSPL1.56-KAS, ran it from the phone (not the storage card). Then I ran Kaiser-HardSPL-3.56 and that seemed to work fine. Then I tried to run step 1 of the KaiserUnlocker and now it will only show me the AT&T boot screen and nothing else after that. What did I do wrong?
I'm trying to unlock the phone so I can use it on T-Mobile USA and flash a new ROM. I've flashed ROMS before but I just never realized how involved this process was on other devices.
And yes, I can get to the boot loader screen.
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A couple of things:
1) The Kaiser-Unlocker only works on 1.xx hardspl's, so you'll have to put one of those on first.
2) You do need to install the patched radio before you run it.
3) You'll need to flash a compatible radio afterward too, or else your device might not boot all the way.
4) Next time please post these questions in the thread for the unlocker you are using. It makes it much simpler for everyone.
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Well you've got HardSPL 3.56 flashed to it.
Why do you need to sim unlock it? Sim unlocking is not neccesary to flash one of the many Roms avaliable for the Kaiser/Tilt.
Once it's got HardSPL flashed, you're free to flash any type of rom onto it
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But HardSPL 3.56 doesn't SIM unlock the phone from what I understand. I need to use it with T-Mobile SIM. So I need to chenge to a 1.XX Hard SPL to do this?
So I guess I went wrong with flashing 3.56 first and not 1.1
Then I need to patch the radio
Run the unlocker
rinstall the radio
Then flash the ROM
Problem I have now is that I can't seem to go back down to a lower SPL version.
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But HardSPL 3.56 doesn't SIM unlock the phone from what I understand. I need to use it with T-Mobile SIM. So I need to chenge to a 1.XX Hard SPL to do this?
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You need to read the instructions carefully, and ask questions in that thread. All the experts in unlocking will be there to help you.
Trying to flash my AT&T Fuze with HardSPL so I can pop a ROM of WM6.5 on it. Not having any luck.
I run the HardSPL executable, it sees the phone (with the current 5.11.XX... ROM version), and then when I hit OK, and see the progress bar (at 0%), it just sits there for about 45 seconds, then gives me a communications error.
Tried this on WinXP and Win7 with the same results. What am I doing wrong?
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Trying to flash my AT&T Fuze with HardSPL so I can pop a ROM of WM6.5 on it. Not having any luck.
I run the HardSPL executable, it sees the phone (with the current 5.11.XX... ROM version), and then when I hit OK, and see the progress bar (at 0%), it just sits there for about 45 seconds, then gives me a communications error.
Tried this on WinXP and Win7 with the same results. What am I doing wrong?
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Is the phone new. We have reports that the SPL Loader changed and prevents flashing HardSPL. Check ur SPL it should not read anything different from 1.90. If it is a higher number then.
Go to the Hardspl thread and flash the 1.90 stock spl frome there first.
Yes, the phone is brand new.
SPL-5.10.0000 is displayed when I enter the bootloader. Would you mind pointing me in the right direction with the HardSPL thread (where I can flash to 1.90)? Can't seem to find it.
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SPL-5.10.0000 is displayed when I enter the bootloader. Would you mind pointing me in the right direction with the HardSPL thread (where I can flash to 1.90)? Can't seem to find it.
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The 1.90 u can find in the HardSPL thread. But check if its ok to get from 5.1 to 1.90
I was more thinking from 1.9XXX to 1.90, so still within the 1.9 loaders. Dunno if its ok for the 5.1 to go down. It should but not shure about that.
Great. I'll check it out. Worse comes to worst, I just may not be able to throw WM6.5 on this, correct?
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Great. I'll check it out. Worse comes to worst, I just may not be able to throw WM6.5 on this, correct?
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well when hardspl works, everything is possible. All the GSM roms are also for fuze afak
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4209384&postcount=589
Look through the HardSPL thread, seems that 5.1 Fuze is working with the 1.9 SPL.
Okay, so I was able to boot into the bootloader, where it tells my SPL is 5.1. I can get the HardSPL exe to run and get all the way to the Progress Bar screen (and the phone also jumps to a grey screen with a progress bar), but they both sit at 0% for about 1 min, then it cancels and says "ERROR(262): Update Failed."
Any ideas?
I also had this issue. I did the CID unlock first, then HSPL. I was then able to complete the upgrade.
No joke. I'll have to try that, then.
And, in anyone's opinion, what's the best cooked ROM to be using? EnergyROM?
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Okay, so I was able to boot into the bootloader, where it tells my SPL is 5.1. I can get the HardSPL exe to run and get all the way to the Progress Bar screen (and the phone also jumps to a grey screen with a progress bar), but they both sit at 0% for about 1 min, then it cancels and says "ERROR(262): Update Failed."
Any ideas?
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Are you doing this through activesync. I asume you are. Make sure the file is placed on your main drive of the computer and ran from there. It cannot be in folders hidden. Otherwise it won't work. I had this issue with prior devices while upgrading.
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No joke. I'll have to try that, then.
And, in anyone's opinion, what's the best cooked ROM to be using? EnergyROM?
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That is kind of like asking which is the best baseball team, NASCAR driver, flavor of potato chip or type of candy. Some cooks go for stability. Other cooks go for the latest release. Some cooks throw in all kinds of goodies. Other cooks put an the absolute minimum in the ROM, so the users can add just what he wants. You may hate my favorite ROM and I may hate your favorite ROM. That is why there are so many ROMs to choose from and all these wonderful cooks making them. Try a several different ROMs and see which you prefer.
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I also had this issue. I did the CID unlock first, then HSPL. I was then able to complete the upgrade.
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And how might one go about unlocking the CID first?
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Are you doing this through activesync. I asume you are. Make sure the file is placed on your main drive of the computer and ran from there. It cannot be in folders hidden. Otherwise it won't work. I had this issue with prior devices while upgrading.
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Yep, doing all that. Thanks, though.
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That is kind of like asking which is the best baseball team, NASCAR driver, flavor of potato chip or type of candy. Some cooks go for stability. Other cooks go for the latest release. Some cooks throw in all kinds of goodies. Other cooks put an the absolute minimum in the ROM, so the users can add just what he wants. You may hate my favorite ROM and I may hate your favorite ROM. That is why there are so many ROMs to choose from and all these wonderful cooks making them. Try a several different ROMs and see which you prefer.
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A fine point, to be sure.
Sorry, all -- kind of got ahead of myself with all these replies.
So, can anyone point me in the right direction for unlocking my phone's CID?
Simple question
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Yep, doing all that. Thanks, though.
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I have one question. Do you have the phone in "ActiveSynch" mode before running the HardSPL? I found that running it while in the "BootLoader" does not work well, when running the HardSPL.
So, activesynch --> run the hardspl --> make sure you click "Ok", when the phone prompts you, if it is okay to run the 2 executables on your phone --> then watch your phone restart into the "bootloader", then update the hardspl...
Just observation from my past experience...
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I have one question. Do you have the phone in "ActiveSynch" mode before running the HardSPL? I found that running it while in the "BootLoader" does not work well, when running the HardSPL.
So, activesynch --> run the hardspl --> make sure you click "Ok", when the phone prompts you, if it is okay to run the 2 executables on your phone --> then watch your phone restart into the "bootloader", then update the hardspl...
Just observation from my past experience...
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Hmmm... I do not have it in ActiveSync mode. I actually have an Exchange connection set up on the phone right now with work. So I should remove that connection, set it to sync ONLY with my desktop, then run HardSPL with ActiveSync 4.5 (on XP) // WMDC (on Vista/7) open?
That's good advice, if I understand you correctly. Thank you!
Did u try to go Stock 1.90 first before doing HardSPL or did u try to flash direct to the unsigned 1.9 ?
As far as I know u have to switch from 5.1 first to the 1.90 signed and then to the unsigned version. See the hardspl thread for more info. Go to this
STEP BY STEP HOW TO RETURN TO STOCK SPL
first.
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Did u try to go Stock 1.90 first before doing HardSPL or did u try to flash direct to the unsigned 1.9 ?
As far as I know u have to switch from 5.1 first to the 1.90 signed and then to the unsigned version. See the hardspl thread for more info. Go to this
STEP BY STEP HOW TO RETURN TO STOCK SPL
first.
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Awesome. I'll give that a shot, too. Thanks, guys!