I am really tired of all these "slow" pda phones. Whats the fastest in the market at the moment. I want something super responsive, with the end user experience my most important criteria. Eg. iPhone was great !
Certainly I would like VGA screen and GPS but the top priority has got to be the quickness of the device. I am using the Eten X800 and it is "usable" but really way way below what I would have wanted.
The responsiveness of the phone is not solely depend on the processor speed, it's also depend on the ROM and tweaks.
Normally, official ROM is not that optimized so you may want to check if somebody had created the ROM for the specific device or the best is you make your own ROM
Clue: I tried Atom Life before and I can say the speed is very fast
Cheers,
Vibranze
vibranze said:
The responsiveness of the phone is not solely depend on the processor speed, it's also depend on the ROM and tweaks.
Normally, official ROM is not that optimized so you may want to check if somebody had created the ROM for the specific device or the best is you make your own ROM
Clue: I tried Atom Life before and I can say the speed is very fast
Cheers,
Vibranze
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I agree that the Atom Life is a great all around phone in terms of speed.
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Hi
I wanted to know what is the most stable CPU on a Pocet PC right now and why, what makes a processor better than the next ? are Intel processors better than samsung, TI, Freescale ??
what are the categories of all these processors ?
and on a pricing level which processors are value for money ?
which are expensive for something and which are expensive for nothing ?
this has been working on my mind for some time to analyse all the processors and identify the truth behind Pocket PC CPU's
can anyone please help to answer these questions.
regards
reo
The differences are very small, unlike with, say, 486 or Pentium clones 10-12 years ago. That is, there aren't known problems with Samsung / TI CPU's and there aren't "clearly the best" CPU's.
hi
what do you think about Freescale CPU ?
and when it comes to CPU, do you think that mayb certain types are more stable than others ?
Stability = litlle or no freezing up, compatibilty, works well with WM OS, aplications funtioanlity, and just general operation you no that sense that you can rely on the product to function properly.
reo
reo said:
hi
what do you think about Freescale CPU ?
and when it comes to CPU, do you think that mayb certain types are more stable than others ?
Stability = litlle or no freezing up, compatibilty, works well with WM OS, aplications funtioanlity, and just general operation you no that sense that you can rely on the product to function properly.
reo
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Dunno much about the practical stability & compatibility issues of the new Freescale CPU, it's so new to the market (and iDo devices are so few).
In general, I don't think any current (again, I don't speak for Freescale) CPU's have any stability or other issues. Samsung CPU's, in the past (see for example the flash ROM problems of the iPAQ 1930 / 1940) had some problems; hope they're fixed now.
hi
is there any way to benchmark the CPU's ? is there any software that i can use. i would like to conduct a test to make a comparison.
about the freescale, any reviews about this CPU ?
regards
reo
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hi
is there any way to benchmark the CPU's ? is there any software that i can use. i would like to conduct a test to make a comparison.
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Spb Benchmark, for example. However, benchmark results are pretty useless. For example, the 195 MHz TI CPU's are MUCH better than what one would think based on the benchmark results
about the freescale, any reviews about this CPU ?
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Googled around; haven't found much.
I will keep searching for more details on freescale.
Do you think there is mayb factory benchmark programs then we can mayb get accurate results ?
reo
reo said:
I will keep searching for more details on freescale.
Do you think there is mayb factory benchmark programs then we can mayb get accurate results ?
reo
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In general, I wouldn't depend on benchmark results. For example, the TI CPU-based devices are far faster than one would think based on the benchmark results.
I have read about Processors from Intel called Monahans, i believe it is the latest CPU.
Have you worked with a handheld device running this CPU ?
could you give us some info on the Manahans and Boulverde ?
try this one.... I got it from buzz website....
Generally, TI and Samsung processors usually are more performant than Intel with the same MHz rate (iirc about 20%).
However, processor performance is not everything. E.g. the memory access is very different on WM5 devices. Or graphic performance.
And don't forget many PPC applications are quite spartanic - you don't need lots of CPU power to add a new contact or write a document in that better notepad called "Word mobile". Memory (card) access is more interesting there. But you'll probably notice a difference e.g. in navigation, games, or multimedia.
don't know if this has been asked, but....
I know there is a overclocking util (BatteryStatus) for the older 200Mhz Touch.
But I got the CDMA HTC Touch (MP6900 ??) with the 400Mhz speed cpu, and the "BateryStatus" util does not work on it... actually it craped out the phone many times tonight... had to do many hard resets!! Crap !!
So.... is there a overclocking util for this version (runing windows mobile pro 6) any one know ???
thanks
Dweeb
Can't be done. A search would have told you that.
Dweeboid said:
don't know if this has been asked, but....
I know there is a overclocking util (BatteryStatus) for the older 200Mhz Touch.
But I got the CDMA HTC Touch (MP6900 ??) with the 400Mhz speed cpu, and the "BateryStatus" util does not work on it... actually it craped out the phone many times tonight... had to do many hard resets!! Crap !!
So.... is there a overclocking util for this version (runing windows mobile pro 6) any one know ???
thanks
Dweeb
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Why would you want to overclock it anyway? The battery usage would be increased and you would probably shorten the lifespan of the device....these things aint cheap you know
400 MHz in a pocket device like these is easily fast enough!
dont know if i agree with that... windows mobile isn't the best operating system because it's sloppy. so we need faster pocketpc's in all honesty.
even 400mhz isn't fast enough.
i'm also curious if its possible to squeeze just a little extra out of it (safely).
i love how my Touch works and how it's setup with windows mobile 6 and now this Manila 2D interface... but it's just always been slow. Even straight out of the box. I recently lost my phone and got a new one... Opened up the brand new one and it's just as slow as my other one.
i made registry tweaks too to increase ram usage and all those good things yo u can do there. no good in my opinion too slow for 2008... 2009 now.
great hardware. poor software. want to compensate for that by making the good hardware even better...
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dont know if i agree with that... windows mobile isn't the best operating system because it's sloppy. so we need faster pocketpc's in all honesty.
even 400mhz isn't fast enough.
i'm also curious if its possible to squeeze just a little extra out of it (safely).
i love how my Touch works and how it's setup with windows mobile 6 and now this Manila 2D interface... but it's just always been slow. Even straight out of the box. I recently lost my phone and got a new one... Opened up the brand new one and it's just as slow as my other one.
i made registry tweaks too to increase ram usage and all those good things yo u can do there. no good in my opinion too slow for 2008... 2009 now.
great hardware. poor software. want to compensate for that by making the good hardware even better...
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Hi dude, read your post and i wonder if you search the XDA for new 6.5roms esp "optimised" ? I heard XDA has most of the roms for "all" wm phone also uni roms. use the search engine found at the top under " search ". I have downloaded a "Touch" but forgot where they are located cos im a downloader, not a note writer
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Hi dude, read your post and i wonder if you search the XDA for new 6.5roms esp "optimised" ? I heard XDA has most of the roms for "all" wm phone also uni roms. use the search engine found at the top under " search ". I have downloaded a "Touch" but forgot where they are located cos im a downloader, not a note writer
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So, what version of the Touch do you have?
Is it possible to get TF3D running on the MEGA for too?
I had installed it before, but TF3D start in an endless loop.
I dont think so, Mega doesnt support 3D, missing OpenGL driver (if i am not wrong)
Chriss, indeed don't do this.....there are some people who have it on similar devices (not Mega). Requires a lot of development.
Only solution for now wait till somebody has it done and reports it working....
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Chriss, indeed don't do this.....there are some people who have it on similar devices (not Mega). Requires a lot of development.
Only solution for now wait till somebody has it done and reports it working....
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Had it may well be there is a solution ...
But thanks anyway!
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I dont think so, Mega doesnt support 3D, missing OpenGL driver (if i am not wrong)
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hi, i have surfed a lot in the web and the results is:
MSM7225 528 is in touch2, snap, touch cruise, ecc ecc.
528mhz (overclocked by me at 640mhz)
and at this moment there aren't 3d drivers but when i copy 3dmapi.dll and openglES.dll in the windows directory i can run some 3d app.
i have installed also touchFlo3D and it start but not see well
help me to start 3d on this ppc please
How you overclocked MSM7225 , please share with us.
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hi, i have surfed a lot in the web and the results is:
MSM7225 528 is in touch2, snap, touch cruise, ecc ecc.
528mhz (overclocked by me at 640mhz)
and at this moment there aren't 3d drivers but when i copy 3dmapi.dll and openglES.dll in the windows directory i can run some 3d app.
i have installed also touchFlo3D and it start but not see well
help me to start 3d on this ppc please
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Man I have to say this sounds great. It's good to finally see some more progress for this device. I hope that you can make a guide for overclocking the processor and that tf3d will be available soon
Correct me , but with only coping files and overclocking a few MHz above wouldn't do the job .... from all i've read , it seem that HARDWARELY Mega could't support TF3D , if i'm wrong then it's only a matter of time before some1 make our dream(1 of 2)* come true !
P.S. *our other dream is Android runnin on Mega ;]]
Android will be closer simply because more people are interested in that......
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Hi i used this tools...it's from HTC...but i want a 3d driver for mega
we all united can do this
Device on steroids..... Thanks for sharing!
Have you noticed real performance improvement? Any impact on apps like TomTom?
Want to try but am a little careful because of generating extra heat or battery drain. Did you notice this?
We are getting a bit off topic......found these 2 threads with info on overclocking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6564058
Some improvement reported in certain applications but also more battery. Otherwise seems stable app.
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Device on steroids..... Thanks for sharing!
Have you noticed real performance improvement? Any impact on apps like TomTom?
Want to try but am a little careful because of generating extra heat or battery drain. Did you notice this?
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Hi.
Yes it is completely faster, also in TouchFlo and Menu, Messages, Internet, ecc, ecc.
In my mega no extra heat of the phone. The only things is that the battery drains a little bit before...but life is same good...but with more speed increase
very nice team i wish i could see andriod and touch flo 3d on my mega
Yes, it is possible to run TF3D on Mega.
I have bought my Mega a month ago, and it is coming with TF3D from the operator or manufacturer.
It is running pretty good and fast. Battery lasts 4-5 days.
I think that these "Mega"s, that are produced last year are coming with TF3D and newer ROM from the manufacturer.
Could you post some pics with TF3D running and also the specs of your MEGA??
Because it is impossible to run TF3D with the original processor and RAM.
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Yes, it is possible to run TF3D on Mega.
I have bought my Mega a month ago, and it is coming with TF3D from the operator or manufacturer.
It is running pretty good and fast. Battery lasts 4-5 days.
I think that these "Mega"s, that are produced last year are coming with TF3D and newer ROM from the manufacturer.
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yes i am curious too
Over clocking problems
Guys, over clocking may damage the device, as written on the HTC Performance config.
Still if it's working fine, just let me know.
it is ! work fine more than 8 monts
Just checking up on this thread, is there any news on the mega having 3D?http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
I'm not sure that I can really tell the difference between running at 1.5GHz vs 1.0GHz. I certainly don't notice a difference in normal browing through the menus and screens, nor do I see a difference in app loading. Certainly anything web related would be bottle-necked by the connection.
So other than games, which I don't really play at this point, where are you guys seeing a noticeable difference in performance when you overclock?
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I'm not sure that I can really tell the difference between running at 1.5GHz vs 1.0GHz. I certainly don't notice a difference in normal browing through the menus and screens, nor do I see a difference in app loading. Certainly anything web related would be bottle-necked by the connection.
So other than games, which I don't really play at this point, where are you guys seeing a noticeable difference in performance when you overclock?
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With such a powerful device OCing really isn't a necessity at all. Even with the OC kernel I find myself perfectly fine at the stock 1Ghz. I guess it's that just "wow" factor that comes with OCing. All the emulators I've used work just fine at the stock speed. Only benefit, IMO, at this point is for bench marking. But still awesome nonetheless
[email protected] or [email protected]? The only useful application of overclocking this monster that I can think of...
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[email protected] or [email protected]? The only useful application of overclocking this monster that i can think of...
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??? Whats that
Distributed computing projects that use extra processor ticks (like when your phone is charging or your computer is setting unused) for scientific research. [email protected] looking for ET's and [email protected] working on disease cures. In effect you are donating the use of your processor to science when you aren't using it. The faster your processor the greater the contribution.
I must say everybody here complain too much..
I have O3D and till now the only thing that really sucked was that LG didn't
supply Gingerbread in time!
My advice is to root your device and install some RAM manager (like 'AutoKiller Memory Optimizer' and set to "Ultimate" preset).
With the device superb memory processing your device will work better than any device I've seen (and I have Galaxy-S2 also that run not as smooth as my O3D).
Hope it will help someone..
Thanks for the advice, will give it a try.
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I must say everybody here complain too much..
I have O3D and till now the only thing that really sucked was that LG didn't
supply Gingerbread in time!
My advice is to root your device and install some RAM manager (like 'AutoKiller Memory Optimizer' and set to "Ultimate" preset).
With the device superb memory processing your device will work better than any device I've seen (and I have Galaxy-S2 also that run not as smooth as my O3D).
Hope it will help someone..
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Seriously...s2 doesn't run as smooth? It has twice the ram and a faster cpu / gpu so it should beat optimus 3D.
Dave
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Seriously...s2 doesn't run as smooth? It has twice the ram and a faster cpu / gpu so it should beat optimus 3D.
Hey Dave,
The fact that S2 have twice the RAM (can have even much more) doesn't metter and the cpu is almost the same, even LG have 'texas instruments' hardware which is very high quality if you familiar.
As long as you have enough free RAM (for this you need only the kind of Memory optimizer app as 'AutoKiller Memory Optimizer') your device run's better than S2. it's a fact, try and see
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Iland said:
My advice is to root your device and install some RAM manager (like 'AutoKiller Memory Optimizer' and set to "Ultimate" preset).
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I would highly recommend against doing that. Most RAM managers simply kill processes until the set amount of memory is free - pretty much preventing all multitasking. Most apps are cached when exited, so they can be quickly switched to later, they usually don't use any battery. Android will close most unnecessary apps by itself if more RAM is required.
With the device superb memory processing your device will work better than any device I've seen (and I have Galaxy-S2 also that run not as smooth as my O3D).
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Imo, the SGS2 is much smoother than the O3D. Pretty much all games run well on it, while some games such as GTA3 (Full effects enabled + Max view distance) and dungeon defenders don't run that well on the O3d. GPU Overclocking is also possible on the SGS2, but not possible on the O3D - Even if it were, i doubt the already overclocked sgx540 (200 stock > 300mhz) can be oc'd as much as the Mali 400.
The SGS2 is also much more optimized than the O3D - Touchwiz is mostly smooth, even with a Live wallpaper, while the stock LG Launcher seems to be laggy. The camera also doesnt take ages to start up.
Also, im pretty sure most complaints are about battery life. My O3D only lasts around 1-3 hours with screen on - even worse than the DHD.
What are we complaining about?
Battery life
lousy Support from LG
I am still officially waiting in Australia for the gingerbread update
my phone under froyo 10k-j restarted over 20 times a day
under Gingerbread I missed out on phone calls and sms
and the list goes on.....
so please don't go around lecturing us as ungrateful to LG for this wonderful phone that I paid $800 for.
I have switched 2 month ago back to my Iphone 4 as my main phone,
only because of the good Devs at Cyanogen I am now wanting to use the phone more and I am going to make it my main phone again.
LG makes good hardware but the software side of things really sux.
and regarding your recommendation to use task killers to free ram tells me a lot how much you know about android 2.2 and above.
shalom
Hi All,
I think you guy's took it much more personally than I meant..
It's just an advice that you can use or choose not to use.
I had some issues with the device speed and after a while I found what I think to be the best setup for the device and I shared my opinion:
1) upgrade to gingerbread (V21a).
2) Root your device.
3) Install 'AutoKiller Memory Optimizer' and set to "Ultimate" preset.
Ever since I did it my O3D work great. and with no offence to big fans of S2 but I think it operate even better since.
Thanks