so... like the title says i'm new at this sort of stuff... seeing that the SPV C600 is my first Smartphone ... so i have a few questions:
1. What is the SPL ???
2. Is it necessary to have the latest SPL ??? and if so how do i update it... keep in mind that i already flashed my phone several times and i am familiar now with most of the programs but not with all the procedures
IPL = initial program load
SPL = secondary program load
These are the boot loader. I'm not sure what handles what.
My vauge understanding is that there's a firmware for the radio which handles the actual phone, and then there's the windows mobile software itself which is your interface to the phoen hardware.
Maybe someone will come along to edumacate us.
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Hi I love this site. I need some help i did plently reading on roms n flashes and tried plenty out. My Question is that i have an htc 8125 phone which is unlocked and has windows mobile 5 on it and is is ilp 1.05 spl 3.08. I wanna put windows mobile 6 with the touch flow and cube but so far I ain't able.
I tried out TNT_5.0_Wizard_TouchFLO and NBK 9 on the Tnt i did it with active sync. I noticed on using TNT at starting my phone on i Get a TNT windows mobile 6 screen then when the phone boots up it customizes cingular and im back with windows mobile 5.
anyway to put windows mobile 6 and touch flo.
thanks for the help
When downgrading your phone so that you can unlock it - you need
Both IPL and SPL @ 1.XX
Yours are not the same - so you need to redo the process to get these two numbers to match. Flash the button rom.
Then, you need to flash a stable oem rom - like the Tmobile 2.26
In order to flash WM6 roms - you need ipl and spl of 2.XX or greater.
You've mentioned that you did some reading - do a little more. Read the unlocking and flashing a wizard posts, follow each step - do not skip any. Take your time, the how to's are very detailed - but they are bang on.
Good luck
htc 8125 problem!
Hi that such I have written for several sides asking the same thing, which happens it is that I have a htc cingular 8125 and need the help someone who can devote a solution to the problem that on having connected my htc to the pc, the activesync it synchronizes well and habia could before formatting the memory could spend(pass) of quite files etc.. But now after erasing I want to install any rom and it turns out that the rom does not recognize the htc, me mistake and the this battery 100 % loaded, the cable in good conditions, I changed the framework into the last one to the pc etc.. And nonetheless I could not have installed the rom.. not that to do.
Thanks...sorry for my bad english.
Is your phone a G3? Install SuperCID.
Is your phone a G4? Run HardSPL.
Once that is done, you should be able to load the Wizard Love ROM.
Then, you should be able to load any WM6 ROM from these boards.
Hi I have a G4 Prophet and the IPL and SPL version number reads 2.10.0001.
I would like to flash it to use a WM6.1 ROM with the touchflo type functionality and new IE Mobile features (i.e. zooming).
I have read through all the guides about carrying this out and have even started having a go but am getting confused about HardSPL.
From what I read HardSPL CID Unlocks your phone so that you can install a diffeerent Carrier (e.g. Orange, Vodaphone) ROM ... or in fact a home 'cooked' ROM off of this site.
I have tried manually carrying out the HardSPL using both the Prophet Tools GUI and the command line batch file HardSPL however after the procedure finishes my IPL and SPL do not read differently as all posts indicate (i.e. they do not read 2.G4.4PDA) ... instead they remain as 2.10.0001.
I have seen the phone go to the tri-colour bootloader screen and even the progress bar go up correctly however when it reboots it says 2.10.0001. I'm assuming that I cannot go ahead and flash with a ROM (such as the Shadow TE one until the SPL reads 2.G4.4PDA).
Can anyone offere me some help with getting to this?
Many thanks.
Nick (a very much noob!)
nisgar2k said:
Hi I have a G4 Prophet and the IPL and SPL version number reads 2.10.0001.
I would like to flash it to use a WM6.1 ROM with the touchflo type functionality and new IE Mobile features (i.e. zooming).
I have read through all the guides about carrying this out and have even started having a go but am getting confused about HardSPL.
From what I read HardSPL CID Unlocks your phone so that you can install a diffeerent Carrier (e.g. Orange, Vodaphone) ROM ... or in fact a home 'cooked' ROM off of this site.
I have tried manually carrying out the HardSPL using both the Prophet Tools GUI and the command line batch file HardSPL however after the procedure finishes my IPL and SPL do not read differently as all posts indicate (i.e. they do not read 2.G4.4PDA) ... instead they remain as 2.10.0001.
I have seen the phone go to the tri-colour bootloader screen and even the progress bar go up correctly however when it reboots it says 2.10.0001. I'm assuming that I cannot go ahead and flash with a ROM (such as the Shadow TE one until the SPL reads 2.G4.4PDA).
Can anyone offere me some help with getting to this?
Many thanks.
Nick (a very much noob!)
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I would recommend you use something like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353547 It makes it a one stop upgrade... That uses "JumpSPL" rather than HardSPL which is the short term option.
Thanks for the help I tried the alternative lazy tool and it worked (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2141436&postcount=188) now my Orange SPV M600 has the Shadow Touch edition rom on it with the shadow cube addon, so far works a treat.
I would still be interested to know why the SPL version number did not change using the prophet tools or HardSPL on its own.
Anyway many thanks again.
Nick
nisgar2k said:
Thanks for the help I tried the alternative lazy tool and it worked (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2141436&postcount=188) now my Orange SPV M600 has the Shadow Touch edition rom on it with the shadow cube addon, so far works a treat.
I would still be interested to know why the SPL version number did not change using the prophet tools or HardSPL on its own.
Anyway many thanks again.
Nick
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What is your devices IPL?
It may be because Soft/Jump SPL was not executed properly prior to HardSPL (this is automated through the HardSPL tools and Prophet Tools).
HardSpl Problem
l3v5y said:
What is your devices IPL?
It may be because Soft/Jump SPL was not executed properly prior to HardSPL (this is automated through the HardSPL tools and Prophet Tools).
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i ran upgrade_hardspl_g4 on my prophet, my spl is 2.15 still... what should i do l3v5y? tried flashing it 5 times still no luck. Please help, having a hard time upgrading roms...
ipl: 2.20
spl: 2.15
im currently downloading prophet tools 2.8. i currently flashed my 818 with PV_temp rom. i'll try to install the prophet tools and hardspl my phone with it.. hope it works...will update in a few after the installation is done... downloading so slow... =(
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i did it!! thanks!!!
I made it, use SoftSPL.
Moderator, please do not delete/lock this topic, I know that there is a separate one for HardSPL however considering how many people with Mobilicity HTC Snap are encountering the same problem I think that we deserve a place to discuss this particular issue.
Here is how it goes for me:
1) Attempted creating a GOLDCARD (just in case, to avoid bricking my device which happened to other ppl here). Not possible, the new PSAS does not allow creating a Maple goldcard with a Maple device (why?). I created one for G1 from their website but I wouldn't risk using it unless I really have to.
2) Followed all the instructions for HardSPL using 1.17. Everything went well until the point where it asks to confirm USB Connectivity. The update utility was not able to find the device. I disconnected and reconnected it. Windows 7 installed a new driver. Then I ran ROMUpdateUtility again. This time it found the device but the screen was a bit weird (flashing from image empty to image version 1.0.00). Anyway, I proceeded and it finished with 100%. Then it restarted the device. In the bootloader the SPL is still 1.24 like everybody else is experiencing, no changes.
3) Repeated using 1.19 . Exactly the same results.
Questions: is it possible that this has something to view with the custom Mobilicity ROM (which is nowhere to be found on the HTC website)? May be JumpSPL only works with Generic/T-Mobile WinMo ROMs?
Given how many people here are having bricked devices and HTC/Mobilicity don't care to release the shipped ROM, would it be reasonable for us (as a group) to ask the PSAS guys to make a page like http: //psas.revskills.de/?q=goldcard for the Maple? My understanding is that if you have a goldcard you can load a ROM which doesn't match your CID, i.e. people with bricked Mobilicity devices will be able to load the Wind ROM and still have a usable HTC Snap 3G.
I second that!
Yes, Mobilicity users need some fix to this problem. Is there a workaround that will allow installing the Wind Mobile one (which is the exact exact same but sold as Maple instead of Snap) since the Mobilicity Snap is the like the only phone on htc canada's website with no ROM download.
But don't you need to HardSPL your device before you can install the Wind ROM?
I have broke it!
How can I can resurrect?
Hi im new on this site and i signed up cos i had the chance of getting my own Htc vox. The thing is i want to update it from WM 6.1 to WM 6.5.
Can someone tell me how to start? My brother told me its a very hard process and that it might break my phone.
Gikoskos said:
Hi im new on this site and i signed up cos i had the chance of getting my own Htc vox. The thing is i want to update it from WM 6.1 to WM 6.5.
Can someone tell me how to start? My brother told me its a very hard process and that it might break my phone.
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you can try WM6.5 CLEAN / CUSTOM ROMs v3.1 (STABLE) for Vox , I think the package includes a tutorial
go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526206 to get it
Hakim Rahman said:
you can try WM6.5 CLEAN / CUSTOM ROMs v3.1 (STABLE) for Vox , I think the package includes a tutorial
go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526206 to get it
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does this SPL has anything to do with it?
The SPL (secondary Program loader) is the part of software in the boot process that loads the operating system or uploads a new one. If you follow the "soft SPL" or "Jump SPL" method of replacing the SPL temporarily you cannot kill the device.
Avoid the "hard SPL" if you come across this. You must be well aware of what you do and if not then you could really kill the device.
thanks tobbie!! really helpful
AFAIK you don't need to jump / HSPL for WM Standard devices. It is required for WM Pro devices (correct me if I am wrong).
A piece of warning, make sure that your phone is not network locked (i.e. it is not SIM locked), because then you need to Unlock your phone first before you flash the ROM. Otherwise your phone will become unusable.
SIM unlocking is done in this forum by some people, but it is not free
Also be aware that flashing a custom ROM technically voids your warranty.
The SPL has to allow the flashing of a non CID matching or a non signed ROM. This is done by either Super-CID (on older devices), Gold Card (still needing a valid signed ROM) or bypassing the onboard SPL with a patched SPL. The latter can be done either "soft" - i.e. temporary in RAM (aka "jump" SPL) or permanently (aka "hard" SPL) by flashing the patched SPL to the device.
For Vox you need at least jump SPL (I would prefer this as it does not kill anything) as the CID unlocking is not possible for free.
Commercial Services offer a complete unlock (CID and SIM) for about 10 GBP
I have one big "Strategic" question i have htc elf, i understand concept of ROM upgrading and what it does. However i am unsure about SPL IPL and RADIO
I would be grateful if someone explained shortly what they do and why should i upgrade them
Thanks in advance
What is a SPL? The SPL, or Second Program Loader, in conjunction with the IPL comprise a device's bootloader. Aside from bootstrapping Android, the bootloader also fulfills various diagnostic functions. One of these functions is the manipulation of data in the device's internal flash ram. Depending on the SPL installed, the user can apply a signed NBH file, flash nand images, and more. Note that the SPL is installed and operates independently of the Android build that runs atop it.
hope this helps
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Thanks man, now i see that SPL+IPL=Bootloader is like a Bios in computer however i don't know how to find most suitable SPL IPL for me can you advice some page where i can see versions and descriptions so that i can analyse pros and cons of ugrading.
here is some info and files i not sure what version your running these were updates please be sure to have backup and read all post and understand them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408637
LocationZero said:
... how to find most suitable SPL IPL for me can you advice some page where i can see versions and ...
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The most suitable SPL/IPL is the lastest version of Hard SPL avaible for your device, which opens the device to the wonder world of custom ROMs. Even if you don't plan to use custom ROMs, having Hard-SPL will enable you to use official ROMs from different carriers or HTC own official ROMs for regions that the device is sold unlocked by HTC.
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Thanks People You helped me very much
HTCRT
BTW on elf wiki link for newest SPL IPL's are broken and also htcrt link is missing where can i report that ?
The USPL for Elf is still available in the Elf device forum. Search my friend!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320155
I don't have an HTC Elf myself, use at your own risk.