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How downgrade Prophet without JAFWM

Want to downgrade form Dopod ROM (AKU2) to old I-Mate or qtek rom
Patched romupdateutility can't downgrade to older qtek or i-mate roms
Does anybody know way to downgrade ROM without using JAFWM?

I want to know this too.
I want to downgrade in order to unlock CID.
The romupdateutility does not downgrade the ROM

Same problem here

Same problem here, except for Wizard...

Me too - need to get back from DOPOD ROM to imate ROM on my JAMin.
Anyone?

Yea same here...there must be a way....:HOPES:

As anyone managed this yet?

J273 said:
As anyone managed this yet?
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I guess not...
If only we had a custom ROM like the one BUTTON made for the wizard users....

Soon will be add to JAFWM the UNLOCK button and than no need downgrade.
Any way, i think is really not a good way downgrade the HTC's especially not for BEGINNERS because if something goes wrong the unit is dead and you can only repair it by desoldering the bga (and this requires a lot of experience) or by JTAG.

raskal said:
Soon will be add to JAFWM the UNLOCK button and than no need downgrade.
Any way, i think is really not a good way downgrade the HTC's especially not for BEGINNERS because if something goes wrong the unit is dead and you can only repair it by desoldering the bga (and this requires a lot of experience) or by JTAG.
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ya, i thing so! if the divice is dead, we can fix it with labtool(if laptool support prophet's flash

machinagod has a solution! You do not need JAFWM.
Only the IPL/SPL can not be downgraded. So, all you have to do is cook a special ROM that has the current IPL/SPL on your device but an older OS, Radio, Extended ROM. The tools for doing this are all on the Wiki for the prophet, but should also work for the wizard and typhoon.
cya

moghisi101 said:
machinagod has a solution! You do not need JAFWM.
Only the IPL/SPL can not be downgraded. So, all you have to do is cook a special ROM that has the current IPL/SPL on your device but an older OS, Radio, Extended ROM. The tools for doing this are all on the Wiki for the prophet, but should also work for the wizard and typhoon.
cya
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Where exactly are these tools? I've searched all arround the wiki.

Hey. You obviously didn't search hard enough because I found it straight away:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RomTools/typhoonnbfdecode.pl
Use the Typhoonbfdecode_v5 program to decode the NBF, then the prep_imgfs and viewimgfs (which actually creates a dump of the rom) to extract and view the contents.
I think you can use AddFile/DeleteFile/BuildImgfs/make_imgfs to rebuild the ROM after tweaking it, but I haven't actually done that yet myself. Other than the typhoonbfdecode_v5, all of those tools are part of the itsutils which you can find around here somewhere.

moghisi101 said:
Hey. You obviously didn't search hard enough because I found it straight away:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RomTools/typhoonnbfdecode.pl
Use the Typhoonbfdecode_v5 program to decode the NBF, then the prep_imgfs and viewimgfs (which actually creates a dump of the rom) to extract and view the contents.
I think you can use AddFile/DeleteFile/BuildImgfs/make_imgfs to rebuild the ROM after tweaking it, but I haven't actually done that yet myself. Other than the typhoonbfdecode_v5, all of those tools are part of the itsutils which you can find around here somewhere.
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Thanks for your reply, but I already know all of this. The WM5editing tools are just for editing the rom(files and registry).
What we need is something to inter-change the portions of an nbf file.
But thanks anyway
EDIT: Also, typhoonnbftools are only able to decode, not encode probably because it is incopatible with the new header.
It shows the following error:
Code:
read 03900000 for os from 80040000-OS_0.nb
no ECEC at 0x40 in OS image
Anyone have a solution about the above error?

TO DOWNGRADE YOU CAN USE PDA MOBIZ CUSTOM ROM. IT'S ESPECIALLY COOKED FOR NOTHING BUT DOWNGRADING AND THEN CID UNLOCKING. PACKAGE INCLUDES THE CID UNLOCKER TOO.
I did that on a spanish Qtek s200 which came with Qtek 2.09 ROM and G3 chip. But fyi, it was not SIM locked.
Pdamobiz site has also a pdf guide explaining the steps.
One thing not mentioned in their guide is downgrade.bat giving an error and failing to write itsutils.dll to pda. I tried installing enablerapi.cab on pda and restart. It worked...

See this pdamobiz article for more information. The ROM mentioned in the article is mirrored here on this site.
The procedure is built around the aWizard tool and this tool is in itself enough from unlocking the CID.

moghisi101 said:
So, all you have to do is cook a special ROM that has the current IPL/SPL on your device but an older OS, Radio, Extended ROM.
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You only need to include IPL/SPL if downgrading from a version 2.x OS to 1.x or upgrading from 1.x to 2.x.
Of course if your phone has a G4 flash chip then downgrading to version 1.x is not possible.

My Jamin is a G4 unit, can I still use the PDAMOBIZ DOWNGRADE ROM to downgrade from SPL 2.2 to 1.x? so I can flash the original JAMIN ROM and send the phone to repair ... the speaker at the back is dead ...

Reverting AKU 2.3 ¿Upgrade? Spanish ROM RQ

After instaling the ROM in the link:
Prophet AKU2.3 pdamobiz customized rom [G4 with SPL 2.15.0001]
I don't mind this being WWE instead than Spanish, but I got several problems:
Hang during install after first reboot. (after every Hard Reset)
Not all programs installed.
Not all installed programs running.
Some other minor glitches.
I moved from 2.15 ESP Rom (Vodafone) wich I was unable to extract.
Does anyone knows were to find my "old" rom?
I downloaded 2.13 from imateclub but refuses to install: "this nbf file is not for your device, get a newer one".
Help! please.

First, is your CID unlock?
Second, your device have a G4 chip, so you can not be able to install an older version, I mean, If you have a 2.15.0001 you can not be able to install a Rom for a Sapnish Qtek 2.09.0000 or like JAMin by i-mate 2.13.0000.
About where you can find your original rom, I invite you to find it on XDA-Wiki, after you log in under your nick or make a Dump Rom from other device like yours.

cidriver said:
First, is your CID unlock?
Second, your device have a G4 chip, so you can not be able to install an older version, I mean, If you have a 2.15.0001 you can not be able to install a Rom for a Sapnish Qtek 2.09.0000 or like JAMin by i-mate 2.13.0000.
About where you can find your original rom, I invite you to find it on XDA-Wiki, after you log in under your nick or make a Dump Rom from other device like yours.
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Thanks for your answer!
I'm unsure if this is CID unlocked, it is SIM unlocked now, will check for the CID issue. Though I assume that being able to install other 2.15 rom (dopòd) means it is already CID unlocked too....¿?
I was afraid the "downgrading" has to be done in the same version range. (2.15)
Thanks again for the wiki proposal, will go there.

The wiki site is a real mess actually, with no trace of usefull info specific for the prophet. (Sorry to say) Just a couple of ROM's some not working.
No one with a 2.15 ESN rom to share?
Regards.

bootloader question

masters!!! hi!! i have an o2 exec here.
i've read some articles here and in wiki for upgrading my device. howver, i havent seen a thing about bootloader.
these are my device's info:
rom version: 1.30.107 wwe
radio version: 1.09.00
ext rom version: 1.30.162 wwe
bootloader: 1.00
my question is, do i need to upgrade my bootloader first to 1.01 before doing an upgrade to wm6?
in connection with this, i believe my device is g3 (please correct me if i'm wrong), will IVAN rom work on G3? how about Rom Update 2.07.04.BL, will it work on g3? there are no information on their threads if these are for g3 or g4...
thanks for those who can help me.. thanks again!

Yes, You need to upgrade to BL 1.01
By Default all of the ROM's work on G3 devices unless stated. Even the ones that state that they work on G4, work on G3 as well. I have tried all of the mentioned (and more) on my G3 device and they all work.

Laubscherc said:
Yes, You need to upgrade to BL 1.01
By Default all of the ROM's work on G3 devices unless stated. Even the ones that state that they work on G4, work on G3 as well. I have tried all of the mentioned (and more) on my G3 device and they all work.
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so, upgrading to BL 1.01 is necessary. (however, mmamaich stated that it is not necessary...)
thank you so much for the useful informations. i'll be reflashing to wm6 later. thanks again great master!

what will happen if i upgrade directly to wm6 without upgrading first to BL 1.01? will it kill my device? thanks again!

iamwin said:
masters!!! hi!! i have an o2 exec here.
i've read some articles here and in wiki for upgrading my device. howver, i havent seen a thing about bootloader.
these are my device's info:
rom version: 1.30.107 wwe
radio version: 1.09.00
ext rom version: 1.30.162 wwe
bootloader: 1.00
my question is, do i need to upgrade my bootloader first to 1.01 before doing an upgrade to wm6?
in connection with this, i believe my device is g3 (please correct me if i'm wrong), will IVAN rom work on G3? how about Rom Update 2.07.04.BL, will it work on g3? there are no information on their threads if these are for g3 or g4...
thanks for those who can help me.. thanks again!
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Hi Everyone
I too would like an answer to iamwin's question . . .
I still have Bootloader v1.00 on my Xda Exec and I've loaded "2.07.05.BL from Beasty & Laurentius" on my device - not even knowing that it may or may not be necessary to update the bootloader . . .
I am confused as to whether my device is G3 or G4 and which is a G3 Rom and which is a G4 Rom and what is the significance of updating the bootloader on the device, since I've already flashed a WM6 Rom on a Bootloader v1.00 device, would it have any repercussions
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I read that some forum member's device have bootloader 2.01 - is it better to upgrade to the newer bootloader version - but is it available for download?
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Cheers
SHK

Bootloader 2.01 is What Is Displayed On G4 Devices After Bootloader Update.
On G3 The Update Shows As 1.01.
I Believe Thats Correct Neways.

I was on BL 1.00 on my first try to upgrade to a WM6 ROM. All went well.
The SPL upgrade is meant to Super CID the device to make it compatible with the different modified ROM's available other than the shipped ones. Other than that, it was supposed to SIM unlock the Universal for subscribed users to telco's. I assume that you're on Globe or Smart and your SIM is already unlocked.
I see no other point other than the above that would make the Universal better or faster or more stable by applying the SPL upgrade, except maybe for troubleshooting purposes where a tool requires a modified BL.
Based on experience, I started not being able to flush ROM's with the SD Card inserted since I did the SPL upgrade.
My advice is to try the upgrade at it's current BL version and upgrade SPL or SIM unlock only if you are unable to proceed with the upgrade.
Cheers (Kabayan)!
P.S.
Btw, OS ROM selection is a matter of taste & usage. Determine the main use of your Uni & check for the ROM with no bugs exhibited for that main purpose. I hope video call is not among your main thing coz your going to be disappointed. Would be easier to go through the threads specifically the first page where bugs & fixes are mentioned. All of the new WM6 ROM's with OS CE core 5.2.1921& above are fast & stable except for some minor bugs here & there. All of the new releases runs on either G3 or G4.

@rhmartin
woW!! thanks kabayan!
i have already downloaded the patched ruu, which i believe is the right tool for upgrading. if i am correct, this patched ruu will bypass cid checking right?
so if im to upgrade, i'll just put the *.nbf file (rom) to the folder of the patched ruu (extracted). please correct me if im wrong,
salamat po!!!
Thank you!!!

Yup, the patched RUU is in the form of an exe file like this: *_noID.exe.
For starters just upgrade the OS ROM. The radio ROM (radio_.nbf - version 1.15 is preferred) can follow later, applying the same procedure upgrading the OS ROM.
Both ROMs can be updated exclusively (separately) from each other!
Good luck 'tol!

Laubscherc said:
Yes, You need to upgrade to BL 1.01
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No, any bootloader starting from 0.53 would work with WM6. I personally don;t recommend to touch bootloader.

@mamaich
thanks for the clarification!!!
@rhmartin
thanks for the guide. it seems i have what i need to upgrade my device.
masters, i'll update you after i upgrade my device!

iamwin said:
what will happen if i upgrade directly to wm6 without upgrading first to BL 1.01? will it kill my device? thanks again!
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I have a Qtek 9000 with bootloader 1.00 and have flashed it numerous times. There may be other (brand name) factors which may lead some to conclude that it is necessary to upgrade. If you try to flash with the older bootloader, I beleive that the worst would be that the process would self-abort, leaving your existing ROM in tact. Safest to have the OEM ROM available and ready before you try, just in case you need it.

Please help me upgrading the Bootloader to anything over 0.6
I got an JasJar for ROM testing, - however, I cannot flash it using http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Bootloader
nor does it work with _noID
there is no progress bar, but I get "success message" really short after. Cold reset does not help, bootloader is still v0.6

AlCapone said:
Please help me upgrading the Bootloader to anything over 0.6
I got an JasJar for ROM testing, - however, I cannot flash it using http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Bootloader
nor does it work with _noID
there is no progress bar, but I get "success message" really short after. Cold reset does not help, bootloader is still v0.6
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..maybe somebody can provide an older bootloader ?

found the error - now upgrades work fine.
The error was caused by a massive overdose of bloatware and spyware, called Windows Vista, wich I recently got infected by, because my I got new PC at my workplace.
the simplest and best solution is to find and install a OS that's a OS, not a pile of junk.

HardSPL doesn't seem to update SPL version

Hi I have a G4 Prophet and the IPL and SPL version number reads 2.10.0001.
I would like to flash it to use a WM6.1 ROM with the touchflo type functionality and new IE Mobile features (i.e. zooming).
I have read through all the guides about carrying this out and have even started having a go but am getting confused about HardSPL.
From what I read HardSPL CID Unlocks your phone so that you can install a diffeerent Carrier (e.g. Orange, Vodaphone) ROM ... or in fact a home 'cooked' ROM off of this site.
I have tried manually carrying out the HardSPL using both the Prophet Tools GUI and the command line batch file HardSPL however after the procedure finishes my IPL and SPL do not read differently as all posts indicate (i.e. they do not read 2.G4.4PDA) ... instead they remain as 2.10.0001.
I have seen the phone go to the tri-colour bootloader screen and even the progress bar go up correctly however when it reboots it says 2.10.0001. I'm assuming that I cannot go ahead and flash with a ROM (such as the Shadow TE one until the SPL reads 2.G4.4PDA).
Can anyone offere me some help with getting to this?
Many thanks.
Nick (a very much noob!)

nisgar2k said:
Hi I have a G4 Prophet and the IPL and SPL version number reads 2.10.0001.
I would like to flash it to use a WM6.1 ROM with the touchflo type functionality and new IE Mobile features (i.e. zooming).
I have read through all the guides about carrying this out and have even started having a go but am getting confused about HardSPL.
From what I read HardSPL CID Unlocks your phone so that you can install a diffeerent Carrier (e.g. Orange, Vodaphone) ROM ... or in fact a home 'cooked' ROM off of this site.
I have tried manually carrying out the HardSPL using both the Prophet Tools GUI and the command line batch file HardSPL however after the procedure finishes my IPL and SPL do not read differently as all posts indicate (i.e. they do not read 2.G4.4PDA) ... instead they remain as 2.10.0001.
I have seen the phone go to the tri-colour bootloader screen and even the progress bar go up correctly however when it reboots it says 2.10.0001. I'm assuming that I cannot go ahead and flash with a ROM (such as the Shadow TE one until the SPL reads 2.G4.4PDA).
Can anyone offere me some help with getting to this?
Many thanks.
Nick (a very much noob!)
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I would recommend you use something like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353547 It makes it a one stop upgrade... That uses "JumpSPL" rather than HardSPL which is the short term option.

Thanks for the help I tried the alternative lazy tool and it worked (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2141436&postcount=188) now my Orange SPV M600 has the Shadow Touch edition rom on it with the shadow cube addon, so far works a treat.
I would still be interested to know why the SPL version number did not change using the prophet tools or HardSPL on its own.
Anyway many thanks again.
Nick

nisgar2k said:
Thanks for the help I tried the alternative lazy tool and it worked (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2141436&postcount=188) now my Orange SPV M600 has the Shadow Touch edition rom on it with the shadow cube addon, so far works a treat.
I would still be interested to know why the SPL version number did not change using the prophet tools or HardSPL on its own.
Anyway many thanks again.
Nick
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What is your devices IPL?
It may be because Soft/Jump SPL was not executed properly prior to HardSPL (this is automated through the HardSPL tools and Prophet Tools).

HardSpl Problem
l3v5y said:
What is your devices IPL?
It may be because Soft/Jump SPL was not executed properly prior to HardSPL (this is automated through the HardSPL tools and Prophet Tools).
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i ran upgrade_hardspl_g4 on my prophet, my spl is 2.15 still... what should i do l3v5y? tried flashing it 5 times still no luck. Please help, having a hard time upgrading roms...
ipl: 2.20
spl: 2.15
im currently downloading prophet tools 2.8. i currently flashed my 818 with PV_temp rom. i'll try to install the prophet tools and hardspl my phone with it.. hope it works...will update in a few after the installation is done... downloading so slow... =(
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i did it!! thanks!!!

I made it, use SoftSPL.

IPL and SPL problem

HI,
I have a Question,I've use Hard-spl 3.10 by cmonex flash done and while entering bootloader I have IPL 2.20.002 while SPL is 3.10.cmonex. Is that normal? Can i flash cooked rom without the risk of bricking the phone? And if IPL should be the same with SPL,can someone teach me how to update IPL please, I've read that you have to enter bootloader and using RUU to update but nothing happen. Please advise and thanks in advance. Devices is in chinese OS by the way hoping to convert it to WWE.

did you read the wiki about flashing and the thread from were the spl apps comefrom. considering you are "hoping" to convert from chinese os to wwe i dont think you are 100% what youre doing

Thanks a lot for the reply. I manage to change it after reading more.Sorry I thought that if you change the SPL IPL changes too.Thanks again.SOrry Just new to this kind of gadget.1st time Winmobile user.

thanks for taking notice of the reply, we mainly get user who cant be botheres to read. and if you ask them to they complain
but you made my day thanks man