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Tilt with HTC ROM - GPS Issue

I have a Tilt (8925) with the stickied HTC ROM. Everything has been great, but I am having issues with GPS. I have downloaded both Google Maps and Live, gone in and checked the GPS settings of COM4 and Baud 4800. Neither of the two applications recognize that I have GPS. Am I missing something? Do I need to enable something on the device that I do not have active?
Thanks in advance!! Best Forum on the NET!

go to settings> System > External GPS settings
Programs should be COM4:
Hardware should be (None) and 57600
Access should be "checked"
Kaiser's GPS works differently from the others (I was using the Trinity) and the GPS Streams does not update like like the trinity.
After that, go to an open space, and get a sync first.
Thereafter, its all ok.

Thanks for the input. I have made the suggested changes and will get out in the open and try again. I'll post back with results.

When on the 8925 firmware, I manually set com4/4800 in google maps. And it never could get a sync in time, despite me running quickgps. I had to use another program to jumpstart it, which would take anywhere from 1 to 4 minutes the first time.
Now that I'm on htc firmware, I just let all the gps settings at default. Didn't configure them in google maps (default there is to use windows settings). Ran quickgps. Google maps gave me the couldn't do it message 3 or 4 times. But I was just playing around still and one time it just locked on. Ever since, it gets a lock in about 5-10 seconds.

After going outside, the GPS finally enabled and I was able to use it with Google Maps and Live. Before today, I had tried to do it inside....thanks again for the tip!

I tried this; clicked okay. I tried soft reset/hard reset and neither keeps the new setting (from 4800 to 57600).
Any ideas?
Note: I just upgrade to 2.0.0.12 from 1.00 so let me see if that solves the problem. Will report back.
Note2: That solved the problem (who knew that upgrading could actually fix something).
hangyong said:
go to settings> System > External GPS settings
Programs should be COM4:
Hardware should be (None) and 57600
Access should be "checked"
Kaiser's GPS works differently from the others (I was using the Trinity) and the GPS Streams does not update like like the trinity.
After that, go to an open space, and get a sync first.
Thereafter, its all ok.
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GPS + MapKing

Hi guys! I can't seem to get a GPS signal on my touch cruise using Mapking!!
Is there any programs out there to check if my GPS device is working fine ?

I think my GPS unit is spoiled! How come ?!
Anyone have this problem before ? I even downloaded a separate program call GPS Viewer and it didn't seem to get any signals at all!

Daft question, but have you gone through the setings to make sure the gps is turned on.
Also go outside to get a lock on the gps, its works better.

Did you check the GPS settings in the control panel?
You have to set and then provide the correct COM port in order to get any GPS software to work with an in-built GPS device.

its on auto detect. And previously i was using it perfectly well! it just happened today! Then i have no idea why...

Did you update QuickGPS? Unless its broken, the GPS unit will eventually find a signal. It just takes a while (up to 3 minutes) which might be longer than the timeout in the app. If you update QuickGPS, then it will find a signal within 30 seconds usually. Perhaps your QuickGPS download is past expiration date. Usually, its set to get new QuickGPS data everytine you active sync by default. maybe you havent' activesync'd in a while (last week or so) or you need ot manually update it.

Mapking Fix
Look on Mapking's website:
http://www.mapasia.com/AD/HTC/HTC_TYTNII_ENG.htm
They're reporting a bug and a link to a fix for the gps in HTC units that shipped with their software bundled.
Hope this helps.
Lom

I'm using MapKing 2007. Not the MapKing R12 that came bundled with it...
And i try to use with GPS Viewer that has nothing to do with Mapking and it also didn't detect any signals.
Could it be the hardware has spoilt ?

[Q][SOLVED!!!] Fuze GPS Issues?

Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest satellite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
SOLUTION:
If you've installed AT&T Navigator, uninstall it. Be sure to call 611 and make sure that you were not charged the GPS service charge on this month's cycle.
Either the HTC guy didn't know his stuff, or this just happens to work around the "Telenav-Only" Block.
I've successfully gotten repeated locks on Google Maps without the use of Telenav. It's not even installed. Here's the procedure to get a (relatively) fast GPS lock:
If you don't already have it, download Advanced Configuration Tool v3.3 (or newer) (see here: http://touchxperience.com/en/advanced-configuration-tool.html) (needs .Net Compact Framework 3.5. see here: http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...act-framework-3-5-without-upgrading-your-rom/).
In the Advanced Configuration Tool go to GPS. Make sure the subsettings are as follows: (the last one is 32KB if you were wondering)
Assisted GPS: Enabled
Log file: \windows\GPSLogFile.txt
Old log file: \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
Max. log file size: 32768
Next, download and install GPS Test 1.04 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=129672&d=1226619670)
Now, every time after a soft-reset (or each day) you want to use the GPS, perform the following actions:
Run QuickGPS and download new satellite info.
Run GPS Test (ensure that GPS settings are on COM4 and a baud rate of 38400).
GPS Test will give you a bar and a signal strength indicator for each satellite. The fix process can take a couple minutes, but just give it some time. Upon getting a 3D lock, it will display "GPS Running".
At this point, you can exit GPS Test and open up Google Maps, TomTom, Garmin, iGo, whatever map tool you use. The navigation app should get a quick (< 30 seconds) fix with anywhere from 7-10 satellites depending on location. It will continue to do this until a long duration of time has passed (I'm talking 5-10 hrs (haven't tested)) or until a Soft-Reset.
This procedure worked for me. I don't know if it'll work for everybody, but I think it's pretty reasonable, the wait time isn't too long for a GPS fix. Good luck and god speed, gentlemen. Let me know if this works for y'all or not.

m.carroll said:
Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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Mine does too - I think you may want to check out the numerous GPS threads on here on how people corrected theirs. I have been busy doing other stuff to worry about the GPS, so I haven't tried any of their advice, but there are Tons of threads on the GPS issue.

i'll look into it, although i didnt think it was the same issue...

m.carroll said:
Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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Mine works, but so far only at home sitting in an east-facing window. Have you tried calling HTC Support? I called about another matter and got an answer right away. The US number is: 866-449-8358.
Let us know how you make out if you call!

m.carroll said:
i'll look into it, although i didnt think it was the same issue...
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Most people are just complaining about lag, but there are a few posts about people having trouble getting a fix. It looks like tomtom and the gps tool are trying, but they just won't get a fix. I even stood outside in the cold for 30 minutes, and it never would work. I made all the changes with advanced config and also the manual registry changes... pretty much every suggestion I've found in all the other threads, but nothing works. If I happen to come across a solution, I'll definitely pass it on... but I'm less than optimistic at this point.

I had the same issue - I grabbed the Diamond TomTom cab (from diamond forum - no maps needed) and was able to see the progress of locking in the satelites.. It took about 10 minutes of the phone sitting outside to get a lock for GPS. Now that it has locked once (I have rebooted several times btw) it seems to pick up the lock a lot faster.
And.. I have not tweaked my GPS settings and a-gps is still enabled.
The GPS is a little shotty if you ask me.. I'm sure something will be changed in software down the road to speed up getting a lock.

I have the same issue
Google maps just keeps timing out

google maps wont work for me

Not sure if this will help or not, but I had mucked with my GPS com port settings (under Settings, GPS Settings).
For Programs: Com4
For Hardware: (None)
Baud Rate 4800
For Access: Manage GPS automatically (recommended) --- Is checked.
In Google Maps, I have the "Managed by Windows" radio button selected.
Doing that allowed me to pull up the satellites in about 10 mins the first time, then a lot more quickly after that.
I have no idea what that actually did, but it made GPS work in google maps for me.
I think it would be a good idea to get a program that shows you GPS lock status, so you can see which satellites are detected and their signal strength. Other than that, just leave the phone outside with a clear view of the sky for a little while and see what happens.

m.carroll said:
Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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I had the same problem at work. I think GPS will work outside. Mine started working with Google Map and Live Search when I was driving.
If that still doesn't work, try install at&t navigator. Maybe it will unlock the GPS.

GPS solution
Hi all I spoke with HTC and you need to download and enable Telenav to activate the GPS. It did not ask me to sign up there is basic turn by turn once it is downloaded and gives you the option to upgrade. Once telenav was installed google maps found satelites within 30 seconds. hope this helps

Ah, that explains why it worked for me -- when I bought my Fuze, I let the salesman sign me up for the 30-day free trial of Telenav. I expect to cancel it, but I was curious to see what it was like.

Same worked for me. I tried the 30 day free trial and now the GPS works. TeleNav doesn't even seem that bad since it checks traffic for you...

No GPS lagging behind reporting your position like the TP?

I have not seen any lag. it is very quick

so basically telenav unlocks the gps and then after one use, it unlocks the gps for use with tomtom or garmin?

posershadow said:
so basically telenav unlocks the gps and then after one use, it unlocks the gps for use with tomtom or garmin?
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Man this seems kind of shady on At&ts part...

hondaguyjoe said:
Man this seems kind of shady on At&ts part...
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Seriously. Didn't you ask why?. Or question this since its an apparant marketing ploy. I heard the same for tomtom. It took my gps a while to to get the first time but after then it locked significantly faster.

i agree, it is shady, but in the end, it works. i got a perfect signal (locked into 6 satellites) with google maps, almost instantly (after connecting once with telenav).
its smart on at&t's part, but now i'm going to look at the cab and see if i can find what makes it work!

can anyone upload the telenav app so i can unlock my gps. i dont have the stock rom anymore(changed to natf rom) and telenav isnt on there.

GPS N3wb question...

Ok, maybe you guys can help here. I have quite a bit of experience with Windows Mobile phones (had an 8525, upgraded to a custom ROM, unlocked SIM/CID, etc), so that's what level of experience you're working with.
Now, I just picked up the Fuze, very cool phone! However, I'm wondering the following about GPS:
1. Is it available in this phone (i.e. AT&T didn't disable it).
2. I want to do GPS. I don't have a data plan. I DO have wi-fi. I DON'T want to be charged money. Is this possible?
Thanks in advance! The questions were probably asked elsewhere, but I looked around a bit and everything else looked way above these questions, which hopefully are pretty simple to answer...

i have the same question...
I know the Fuze has GPS, and i followed the steps on THIS link, but it doesnt seem to work, the GPS Test, never seems to finish looking for satelites, and when i go to Google Maps, it keeps "seeking GPS satelites"

GPS is available on the Fuze and it's independent of any data plan. All you need is some program that can access the GPS.
However, getting the GPS to work seems to be flakey at best. I tested mine briefly but wasn't able to get a signal lock. Need to do some more testing.

The GPS on my Fuze works great. First you should run Quick GPS and it will use the wifi to download the current GPS satellite locations. Then you should use google maps, you have to goto google maps menu and say 'use gps' then just go stand outside somewhere where theres no much tree coverage and wait for awhile (for the first time, now that I've done it once the GPS starts working in 10 seconds or so) Then you will start to pick up the gps satellites. I'm not sure how great it will be without a data plan... it uses the data plan to download the map info. Hopefully your wifi works out side.

cladeus101 said:
The GPS on my Fuze works great. First you should run Quick GPS and it will use the wifi to download the current GPS satellite locations. Then you should use google maps, you have to goto google maps menu and say 'use gps' then just go stand outside somewhere where theres no much tree coverage and wait for awhile (for the first time, now that I've done it once the GPS starts working in 10 seconds or so) Then you will start to pick up the gps satellites. I'm not sure how great it will be without a data plan... it uses the data plan to download the map info. Hopefully your wifi works out side.
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What about using something like Garmin or TomTom's software? Would that work without a data plan, and without the need for wi-fi?

I use Garmin without a data plan and it works great. I installed it first thing after I got my GPS and didn't do anything to get it to work. The GPS on my FUZE worked out of the box like it should.

Quick GPS Help

Hi,For some odd reason my quick GPS does not work anymore. My TomTom is non functional as well. I have checked my data connection and it is active. Can somebody help please.
Thanks in advance.

Can somebody please assist? I have checked my data connection and it is working. I have internet connection, for some strange reason Quick GPS and TOMTOM is not working. Is there a setting somewhere to activate this?
Thanks

Can somebody please assist, I really would appreciate a fix to this issue.
THANKS

I am having an issue with my GPS, except I got my unit 2 days ago, and can not get the GPS to work at all, with OEM rom or with any other custom rom. (it wont work with garmin xt, google maps, HTC GPS, or GPS tweak tools).
I hope I dont have a bad unit.

Strange thing, mine worked fine for about three weeks and all of a sudden it stopped working.

did either of you notice the unit getting *really* hot just before it went out? ...as in I-stuck-it-in-my-pocket-and-now-I-have-crotch-scars kind of hot?

zahbaker said:
Hi,For some odd reason my quick GPS does not work anymore. My TomTom is non functional as well. I have checked my data connection and it is active. Can somebody help please.
Thanks in advance.
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When you say that quickGPS is not working, what do you mean? It doesn't display the page with the "Download" button? You press the "Download" button and it can't connect? It connects but never finishes downloading the data? What are the specific symptoms you're seeing?

I see the quick gps download button, when I click download, the message that I get is connection failed. My tomtom as well does not work anymore. I do have inetrnet connectivity, it's just the quick gps and tomtom that is not working. Please assist. Thanks

Patience
equinox2355 said:
I am having an issue with my GPS, except I got my unit 2 days ago, and can not get the GPS to work at all, with OEM rom or with any other custom rom. (it wont work with garmin xt, google maps, HTC GPS, or GPS tweak tools).
I hope I dont have a bad unit.
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I've had my TP for 3 days now. As with the Kaiser and my hermes Holux bluetooth device it takes approx 5 - 10 mins to get the initial fix on satellites after that it appears to be working fine. Google maps, my old TTv6 all working fine. Takes about 30secs from startup to pickup Sats and shows about 5-7 sats everytime.
So just be patient with the initial startup. It should come.

zahbaker said:
I see the quick gps download button, when I click download, the message that I get is connection failed. My tomtom as well does not work anymore. I do have inetrnet connectivity, it's just the quick gps and tomtom that is not working. Please assist. Thanks
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What are the values of the registry keys HKLM\Software\HTC\QuickGPS\SNTP\Server1, Server2, and Server3? (I have values like xtra1.gpsOneXTRA.net.) What happens if you type that address into Internet Explorer or Opera?

When I type the address in internet explorer I get to the RX Networks webpage.
My internet is working fine, it's the gps thats not working.
Thanks

zahbaker said:
When I type the address in internet explorer I get to the RX Networks webpage.
My internet is working fine, it's the gps thats not working.
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Well, QuickGPS is an Internet app, not a GPS app. All it does is download a week's worth of satellite ephemeris data from one of those servers. When you reported "connection failed" as the problem you were seeing in QuickGPS, that seemed to indicate that you weren't able to connect to the server.
So if you can get to the server, as it appears, maybe the message is about connecting to the GPS unit (to transfer the ephemeris data? Not sure about the architecture of the GPS here). What values do you have in the "External GPS" pages on the System settings tab? Have you tried the GPSTest tool? Is it able to connect to your GPS unit after you put the appropriate values into its "GPS Settings" page?
If GPSTest isn't able to connect to the GPS unit, then I think you probably have a hardware fault and should exchange your phone for a new one.

Can Someone tell me what is the exact job of the Quick GPS which is in Programs ? for me was expired and i just update through gprs and then show me some valid days remaining.
is it help to connect to satellite faster or something else ? and what happen if i don't update it? thanks.

When using WiFi, QuickGPS seems not to work if it's the first program to use the connection. If you make an Internet connection with some other program first (e.g. PIE), QuickGPS will work over WiFi. At least that's my experience with the stock AT&T ROM.
This problem doesn't seem to occur with GPRS/3G/HSDPA connections, only with WiFi.

P525Lover said:
Can Someone tell me what is the exact job of the Quick GPS which is in Programs ? for me was expired and i just update through gprs and then show me some valid days remaining.
is it help to connect to satellite faster or something else ? and what happen if i don't update it? thanks.
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Yes, QuickGPS reduces the wait for getting your position when you first start up a mapping program.
The way GPS works is that the GPS receiver uses the positions of the satellites and the distance to those satellites to calculate its own position on the Earth. That requires knowing very precisely where the satellites are at any given time. The satellite position information is called the ephemeris.
Each satellite, in addition to broadcasting time signals (which enable the GPS receiver to determine the distance to the satellite), transmits its own ephemeris. A GPS receiver starting up from scratch has to receive the ephemeris data from each satellite it will be using before it can figure out its own position.
QuickGPS eliminates the need to receive the ephemeris data from the satellites by sending a week's worth of ephemeris data over the Internet. The GPS receiver can use that immediately instead of getting it from each satellite in turn. That significantly reduces the TTFF (time to first fix), i.e., the initial wait before you can start using a GPS-based map program.
The "expiration date" is simply the last point in time that is covered by the ephemeris data sent by QuickGPS. After that point, you have to get more data, either from QuickGPS or from the satellites.

wmm said:
Yes, QuickGPS reduces the wait for getting your position when you first start up a mapping program.
The way GPS works is that the GPS receiver uses the positions of the satellites and the distance to those satellites to calculate its own position on the Earth. That requires knowing very precisely where the satellites are at any given time. The satellite position information is called the ephemeris.
Each satellite, in addition to broadcasting time signals (which enable the GPS receiver to determine the distance to the satellite), transmits its own ephemeris. A GPS receiver starting up from scratch has to receive the ephemeris data from each satellite it will be using before it can figure out its own position.
QuickGPS eliminates the need to receive the ephemeris data from the satellites by sending a week's worth of ephemeris data over the Internet. The GPS receiver can use that immediately instead of getting it from each satellite in turn. That significantly reduces the TTFF (time to first fix), i.e., the initial wait before you can start using a GPS-based map program.
The "expiration date" is simply the last point in time that is covered by the ephemeris data sent by QuickGPS. After that point, you have to get more data, either from QuickGPS or from the satellites.
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wow, interesting, lots of new and useful information for me that i didn't know that before. thanks man.

Not seeing any 10 minute delay like you saw. Are you updating current sat location data with QuickGPS? I notived using GPStest and MS Pocket Streets that Sat connections go up and completely down all the time. Nice thing is, GoogleMaps ignores the quick downs so it LOOKS like a good connection that never disapears. don't know if this is intentional on Google's part, but it works, even standing still/walking (once connection is made). Lovin the Sat view whilst I use GPS for directions.

Same here: Quick GPS cannot connect... What is this? Maybe a server fault, or do I need to Hard Reset?
LE: Fixed it: I just run Connection Setup again, then it suddenly worked.

i just did a hard reset and quickgps will connect only after i open up a browser and googlemaps sits at seeking gps sats. i had it working 2 days ago and then my battery died and it hasnt worked since. i did notice that the phone was really warm though.

quickqps hasnt worked for me for a couple of weeks now...and i still havent fod anything to fix it