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[Q][SOLVED!!!] Fuze GPS Issues?

Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest satellite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
SOLUTION:
If you've installed AT&T Navigator, uninstall it. Be sure to call 611 and make sure that you were not charged the GPS service charge on this month's cycle.
Either the HTC guy didn't know his stuff, or this just happens to work around the "Telenav-Only" Block.
I've successfully gotten repeated locks on Google Maps without the use of Telenav. It's not even installed. Here's the procedure to get a (relatively) fast GPS lock:
If you don't already have it, download Advanced Configuration Tool v3.3 (or newer) (see here: http://touchxperience.com/en/advanced-configuration-tool.html) (needs .Net Compact Framework 3.5. see here: http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...act-framework-3-5-without-upgrading-your-rom/).
In the Advanced Configuration Tool go to GPS. Make sure the subsettings are as follows: (the last one is 32KB if you were wondering)
Assisted GPS: Enabled
Log file: \windows\GPSLogFile.txt
Old log file: \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
Max. log file size: 32768
Next, download and install GPS Test 1.04 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=129672&d=1226619670)
Now, every time after a soft-reset (or each day) you want to use the GPS, perform the following actions:
Run QuickGPS and download new satellite info.
Run GPS Test (ensure that GPS settings are on COM4 and a baud rate of 38400).
GPS Test will give you a bar and a signal strength indicator for each satellite. The fix process can take a couple minutes, but just give it some time. Upon getting a 3D lock, it will display "GPS Running".
At this point, you can exit GPS Test and open up Google Maps, TomTom, Garmin, iGo, whatever map tool you use. The navigation app should get a quick (< 30 seconds) fix with anywhere from 7-10 satellites depending on location. It will continue to do this until a long duration of time has passed (I'm talking 5-10 hrs (haven't tested)) or until a Soft-Reset.
This procedure worked for me. I don't know if it'll work for everybody, but I think it's pretty reasonable, the wait time isn't too long for a GPS fix. Good luck and god speed, gentlemen. Let me know if this works for y'all or not.

m.carroll said:
Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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Mine does too - I think you may want to check out the numerous GPS threads on here on how people corrected theirs. I have been busy doing other stuff to worry about the GPS, so I haven't tried any of their advice, but there are Tons of threads on the GPS issue.

i'll look into it, although i didnt think it was the same issue...

m.carroll said:
Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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Mine works, but so far only at home sitting in an east-facing window. Have you tried calling HTC Support? I called about another matter and got an answer right away. The US number is: 866-449-8358.
Let us know how you make out if you call!

m.carroll said:
i'll look into it, although i didnt think it was the same issue...
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Most people are just complaining about lag, but there are a few posts about people having trouble getting a fix. It looks like tomtom and the gps tool are trying, but they just won't get a fix. I even stood outside in the cold for 30 minutes, and it never would work. I made all the changes with advanced config and also the manual registry changes... pretty much every suggestion I've found in all the other threads, but nothing works. If I happen to come across a solution, I'll definitely pass it on... but I'm less than optimistic at this point.

I had the same issue - I grabbed the Diamond TomTom cab (from diamond forum - no maps needed) and was able to see the progress of locking in the satelites.. It took about 10 minutes of the phone sitting outside to get a lock for GPS. Now that it has locked once (I have rebooted several times btw) it seems to pick up the lock a lot faster.
And.. I have not tweaked my GPS settings and a-gps is still enabled.
The GPS is a little shotty if you ask me.. I'm sure something will be changed in software down the road to speed up getting a lock.

I have the same issue
Google maps just keeps timing out

google maps wont work for me

Not sure if this will help or not, but I had mucked with my GPS com port settings (under Settings, GPS Settings).
For Programs: Com4
For Hardware: (None)
Baud Rate 4800
For Access: Manage GPS automatically (recommended) --- Is checked.
In Google Maps, I have the "Managed by Windows" radio button selected.
Doing that allowed me to pull up the satellites in about 10 mins the first time, then a lot more quickly after that.
I have no idea what that actually did, but it made GPS work in google maps for me.
I think it would be a good idea to get a program that shows you GPS lock status, so you can see which satellites are detected and their signal strength. Other than that, just leave the phone outside with a clear view of the sky for a little while and see what happens.

m.carroll said:
Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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I had the same problem at work. I think GPS will work outside. Mine started working with Google Map and Live Search when I was driving.
If that still doesn't work, try install at&t navigator. Maybe it will unlock the GPS.

GPS solution
Hi all I spoke with HTC and you need to download and enable Telenav to activate the GPS. It did not ask me to sign up there is basic turn by turn once it is downloaded and gives you the option to upgrade. Once telenav was installed google maps found satelites within 30 seconds. hope this helps

Ah, that explains why it worked for me -- when I bought my Fuze, I let the salesman sign me up for the 30-day free trial of Telenav. I expect to cancel it, but I was curious to see what it was like.

Same worked for me. I tried the 30 day free trial and now the GPS works. TeleNav doesn't even seem that bad since it checks traffic for you...

No GPS lagging behind reporting your position like the TP?

I have not seen any lag. it is very quick

so basically telenav unlocks the gps and then after one use, it unlocks the gps for use with tomtom or garmin?

posershadow said:
so basically telenav unlocks the gps and then after one use, it unlocks the gps for use with tomtom or garmin?
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Man this seems kind of shady on At&ts part...

hondaguyjoe said:
Man this seems kind of shady on At&ts part...
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Seriously. Didn't you ask why?. Or question this since its an apparant marketing ploy. I heard the same for tomtom. It took my gps a while to to get the first time but after then it locked significantly faster.

i agree, it is shady, but in the end, it works. i got a perfect signal (locked into 6 satellites) with google maps, almost instantly (after connecting once with telenav).
its smart on at&t's part, but now i'm going to look at the cab and see if i can find what makes it work!

can anyone upload the telenav app so i can unlock my gps. i dont have the stock rom anymore(changed to natf rom) and telenav isnt on there.

Is there a way of using GPS without media net?

My friend has the LG incite and run windows mobile. He has no media net, but is able to use gps just by using gpsgate and then the tom tom program. i was wondering if there is a way for us on the FUZE to do the same?

SEARCH SEARCH SEARCHH!! <<--- IDK why people don't use the search when we have it!!
all you have to do is turn off the AGPS in your settings. (Go to Start > Settings > System > AGPS Settings) and make sure Enable AGPS is NOT checked. You now have GPS without using your MediaNet!

Definitely did not work for me... Are there any other settings that I need? I turned off AGPS and went to my google maps and tom tom and can't get it to work.

.....google maps REQUIRES the internet to work, whether it's WiFi or MediaNet some sort fo internet is needed.
...as per TomTom it should work. I used to do it all the time until i actually got the data plan for myself.

See i don't want to get the data plan because its just for something I will use once in a blue moon. I just wanna have GPS in case I need it some time

okay...so TomTom or any other navigation software will work as long as you have the maps on your storage card...

I gotta wait till I get my phone back, but can anyone tell me if this works? (People without media Net of course) From my understanding it'll keep saying that its looking for a connection and can't get one.

not sure what "media net" is assuming it's some sort of isp
but gps don't require gprs or even a phone part to work
mind you most these gps's dont work indoors you have to be outside
or in a car and have a working tomtom set correctly up or gamin or any
other gps software suite

Media Net is ATT data plan they call it media net. Everytime I try connecting GPS it seems like its trying to use a data plan and since I shut it off by calling up ATT it seems like my phone is only trying to go through ATT and saying no connection

tomtom and gamin gps software should not use a data connection at all
if of cause the install include the cards of where one is located
the same software is run on pda's with gps but no phone
like many of the mio pda's

if your using some PirateBay copy of Tomtom or Garmin then you need to check the tags. Raphael is not a smartphone it's a PPC.
Advanced config take off aGPS.
MoDaCo nodata.cab
otherwise get garmin i've had very few problems once i figured out how to copy my maps from my c550 to my phone.

whats the point of having a phone as powerful as the touch pro if you aren't gonna pay for a data plan? thats like a car with no gas

FatalCharade said:
whats the point of having a phone as powerful as the touch pro if you aren't gonna pay for a data plan? thats like a car with no gas
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albeit i do have a data plan, i debated it for a while when i realized i was spending 80-90 hours a week in the hospital which has wifi and so does the fuze....given the limited time out of wifi spots, i almost went without it.... but then chose to go with it for those times when i'm not in wifi spots...

Try Amaze Gps....turn by turn gps...and it doesnt use data....and best of all its free!!

amAze needs the user to have a data plan in order for it to operate. similar to google maps

GPS on AT&T Fuze with ROGERS?

Hey ive unlocked and flashed to a sweet NRG rom and love it. I just want to use google Maps (or something similar) to find my position on a map (turn by turn maybe?). I remember with my iPhone when I first had it the GPS worked great then one day I was never able to get my actual position (just within a certain amount of meters).
Did rogers shut down GPS?
Now on my new phone when I goto "GPS location" in google maps it searches for a satellite but doesnt seem to get my position (0)... Is there a setting I can turn on to allow GPS or do I need to cal rogers and rip on someone? LOL
keep up the great work guys!!!
- Eddy

I just turned 3g on and did the HTC GPS tool. I opened the port and started the test and then menu-Information and I dont seem to have a position.
any ideas guys? seems like rogers problem.

eddyg519 said:
I just turned 3g on and did the HTC GPS tool. I opened the port and started the test and then menu-Information and I dont seem to have a position.
any ideas guys? seems like rogers problem.
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GPS on the HTC is using the basic GPS Signal coming from satellites. Are u outside or near a window to a fix ?
Look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System
What u used was A-GPS what is assisted GPS with help from Cell Phone provider. It gives faster fix and a pseude gps in buildings.
Go outside with ur cellphone with clear sky view, start the htc gps tool and u should get position fix within some minutes or even seconds. There is no need for 3g because the gps itself does not need any cellphone connection. It takes satellite signals to calculate the position.
When u update quick gps it is faster in the position fix because it already knows some basic sat data. But still no phone connection necessary for using GPS.
The google map u then only see with data (3g or wlan) not because of the GPS but because of the drawed map graphics wich have to be loaded.

ok i will try the outside thing although I have the phone pointed to the window pretty much. Checking rogers website both phones only have a-GPS but I still cant get an actual location on either. Only about a 4 block square or circle.
EDIT: ok i enabled A-GPS on the touch pro and still no luck with google maps. It still seems to be looking for actual GPS

OK im managed to get it working. I changed the port to com5 and scanned found some sat's I had to change the bit thing to 56700 on com5 within google maps. Seems to be working like a charm!

GPS signal - source

Hello All,
OK, This will show you how out of the loop I am.
Purchased an HTC Touch Pro (via CL), phone to see how it would work as simply an GPS while riding the motorcycle all over creation this summer.
I was able to download Google maps(4.0) here at home & installed via WIFI. After installing I could not get any satellites to 'come in'. I enabled the phone part on the Touch,then the satellites (5) became available and did in fact show my location! I am not going to get an actual data plan for this phone FYI. My question is,were does the GPS satellites "come from"? I assume the only way this will function properly is to have an WIFI connection? That being said, how does the regular 'car gps's' get their signal driving down the road?
Is the gps radio signal independent of both the wifi & data signals, I guess is what I am asking? Why would I have had to enable the phone/ON for the satellites to show up,when I do not have a data plan? Maybe just an inherit setup for the gps radio,config?
Thanks,
Barry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System
you can use GPS for free, you don't need to have a wifi connection or any other data connection

accountabc,
Thanks for the link! I was 'hoping' this is how the gps thing shook down. I figured there would have to be a catch to were I would have to have a data plan on the U S Cellular enabled HTC Touch Pro. This is going to work out just as I had hoped! No GPS hanging off of the handlebars,being a target for thieves every time i get away from the bike!!!.
Suweeeet!!!
Now if I can read it while tooling around the switchbacks???,,,Yikes...
take Care,
Barry

accountabc,
I had a brilliant idea,to test the viability of my Google Maps working without an Data or WIFI connection. I unplugged my Access point here. Tried opening Google Maps on the HTC Touch Pro, and get the 'connecting' dialouge at the top right of GM's. It finally times out with saying" A data connection is required for this app". I tried going into the setting of the "external gps" and took off the 'automatically configure' and set the com ports several different ways to no avail.
This phone does have the latest ROM that U S Cellular provides. I may have to try and start hacking with some other ROM's to see if an 'unlocked' ROM may circumvent this problem? Although I have had this phone for almost two months I have just started getting acclimated with it ,the last 2 days.
I'll do some more searching here to see if someone does in fact have a workaround for this? It does seem the GPS radio should do the grunt work. I am just not sure about the Google Maps needed to be updated dynamically with a net connection?
Thanks again,
Barry

why not use something like garmin xt which doesn't require a data conenction since all the maps are on a sd card

Standalone GPS on xv6700; Solved?

I want to say I love this site and have learned alot. I have tried for quite a time to get GPS to work on the xv6700, tho it seems much disinformation has been spread as far as a GPS being within. I have torn down this phone to see for myself if the MSM6500 was in this, which it is. Therefore I believe it does have this ability. I recently installed a program called WPS by Skyhook, which is a Wireless Positioning System. Now just a footnote; my phone has no carrier, I only use it for surfing the internet with wifi. To utilize WPS the site tells me I would need an active internet connection, however it stills works with no connection!!! It seems as if I have gotten the internal gps to wake up. I use Open Mobile Maps and it works excellent. I pickup satellites with Google Maps just to test at home (so far as many as 10 satellites). Can somebody else please duplicate this to verify exactly what is going on here? I just want to emphasize that this is with NO CONNECTION to ANYTHING!!!