Cruise vs Orbit 2 - Touch Cruise General

Hi everyone,
I am thinking of getting the O2 XDA Orbit 2, as I like it more than the TC (at least on the photos), and it probably will be available sooner here in the Uk, plus the fact that I can get an upgrade (being already on O2).
I would like to know:
a. how much O2 has messed with the software and
b. if it would be possible to unlock it and use it on another network
Cheers

You don't need to unlock the Orbit 2. You buy it without a simlock! There would not be saled a pre-paid version, so you can use it with other carriers. Its tested here in germany and it works great.
I don't understand your first question, but i try to answer:
O2 doesn't change really the Software. They changed only the today screen like the o2 style
(see the pic: HomeScreen)
if you want more pics: MorePics

im also torn apart between the TC and the orbit 2, but i think i go with the orbit, it cheaper comes with additional maps and is cheaper.
Since its the same hardware you can get the same roms and the same tools that also work for the TC

Two questions, hopefully someone can answer them:
Where can I order the O2 Orbit Unlocked?
Is it fixed to German (the home screen for example) or can I change to English?

@ Hornet331: You must see, what device is better for you for the next years... I don't want the orbit 2 as a companion for the next years of my life, because i don't like its design! on german it's: ZUM KOTZEN! But many people love the o2 design.. Each to his own.
@ karlth:
1. You can order it in many german e-shops. or in an o2 shop in germany. in the e-shop of o2 you can only order it with a contract like the iphone.
2. you can only change the language when you flashing the rom... you need a english WM6 ROM

Thanks for your reply.
Let's hope that here in UK the Orbit 2 will also be unlocked, so that I could use it with other networks (e.g. on other networks when abroad, to avoid expensive roaming).

isv51 said:
@ Hornet331: You must see, what device is better for you for the next years... I don't want the orbit 2 as a companion for the next years of my life, because i don't like its design! on german it's: ZUM KOTZEN! But many people love the o2 design.. Each to his own.
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imho der isnt much difference between the TC and the orbit2, maybe its because i dont anyone of those 2 look that good.
Its a phone and most of the time it will be in my pocket/backpack anyway etc. so i dont really care about design.

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Thinking about upgrade to XDA-IIi

I have the original XDA-II and have an upgrade opportunity in a few days. I was thinking about going for the XDA-IIi. I was wondering about a few points and thought maybe people here might be able to help:
1) The camera has been upgraded quite a bit, can anybody supply me with a picture taken from the XDA-IIi so I can see the quality?
2) Microsoft Windows Mobile 2003 2nd edition - Is this much different from the 1st edition on my XDA-II?
3) I am moving to the USA in jut under a year, I know that 1900MHz works in the USA. Can anybody tell me if there is an advantage to having 1800MHz (one that is available on the XDA-IIs)
4) Are there any plans for another XDA release soon? i.e. should I hang on for a few months to upgrade?
Thanks,
Allan
hi,
I can comment as follows.
Wait for the xda EXEC (Universal/MDA4 other names) which is due out any time soon in the UK on carrier o2/Europe. Its a 3G phone, so may not offer the benefits/compatability in the USA over 'edge' etc. I suspect that the USA will realease a tweaked version to suit the carriers of edge.
The camera on the 2i is crap when compared to the 2. seriously. dont listen to anyone whom says different.
2003SE is nice, landscape mode etc, slightly slicker menus, but over all so little difference, again, wait for the EXEC (or MDA4 as its known in europe) Wifi on board is the only reason i got the 2i, and in some ways i wish i had stuck the the 2 and the wifi card, and saved some cash and waited for the exec.
Hope that helps, in a nutshell the 2i is so much the same as the 2 , i would wait for the exec/mda4.......
heres a link for a review, only differnce been that in the UK it will be known as the EXEC as mentioned above and will be in Black as is the 2s currently by o2.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/3668.html
Bryson
Was just gonna say the same, Bryson!
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he whom rises early catches the early worm mr.valleyman!
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spot on bryson
i wish i had waited a 11months before upgrading to the da2i
as far as i'm concerned the 2i was a waste of space
Roll on the Exec!!! I'm upgrading early from the 2i to it, as well...
Does anyone have any idea of the approximate fine for upgrading early? Is there one? I'm on a staff account contract if that makes any difference.
Cheers
Ant
The XDA Exec is massive its simply too big to be used as a phone anymore.
The Blue Angel is still the device to go for, 2s. Simply becasue it's smaller than the Exec, also has a qwerty keyboard, and will be getting a WM5.0 upgrade in the future. Camera quality is also better than the 2i.
s1nn0n said:
The XDA Exec is massive its simply too big to be used as a phone anymore.
The Blue Angel is still the device to go for, 2s. Simply becasue it's smaller than the Exec, also has a qwerty keyboard, and will be getting a WM5.0 upgrade in the future. Camera quality is also better than the 2i.
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dude no offense but which rock did you crawl out under from.. firstly no current htc phones are getting wm5 upgrades and the camera quality of xda 2s is far far worse than the xda2i camera quality....i know i have both of them....

Recent HTC Products, O2's offerings and what to get - help me end the dillema

My O2 12 month contract ended in January and back then I didn't see any new stuff from O2 so I did not consider purchasing anything. However when I saw the XDA Zinc, I was pretty much sold as getting that as my next phone. However, now the Zinc is no more (I'm in UK right now) and the XDA Trion (HTC Hermes) has showed up. On top of this, my uncle is also nearing the end of his contract and is keen on getting the XDA Mini S (after he saw mine) but may consider upgrades.
Now the things bugging me are these:
There's the O2 XDA Terra (HTC Herald 100) which really is a XDA Mini S in black and has WM6 and possibly a better keyboard and camera and some other tweaks BUT with a microSD slot. The big issue is when it will be released.
Then There's the O2 XDA Trion - All things considered, the CPU is clocked higher but it is an ARM4 core based one and truthfully the CPU is from 2003 (as far as I can tell, the HTC Kaiser will use the same chip and only really has a better camera and a new keyboard mechanism). But it does have a better keyboard and camera...not to mention 3G capabilties (which the Wizard and Herald and any other OMAP850 based device - correct me if I'm wrong - lacks). However it again touts the microSD slot and is using WM5 and not WM6.
Considering that I find my HTC Wizard adequate for most things and the only things that truly bother me are the lack of an OK and Windows key on the front (but I am so used to sliding out the keyboard a little and using it), the lack of WM6 (can be resolved) the camera's resolution (could I stick a HTC Herald camera module in the Wizard?) and SDHC compatibility (now this is something I need to double check).I also get the feeling the OMAP850 can trump the Samsung offerings at clock speeds greater than 200MHz (I run it 116 at times and it's still usable for me)
The main reason I got the Wizard back then was because of the keyboard and the Exec is simply too impractical for me.
The question:
With all the above considered and in addition to the major question whether the O2 Contract is even worth it; I might be better off getting a device from expansys and the like (in which case a wait is a non issue), which of the following should I do? You can introduce your own as long as it's reasonable.
For me:
1- Get a new wizard fascia to replace the currently scratched one and do the WM6 upgrade and just hold on for a new device (I might do this anyway).
2- Get an XDA Trion as soon as it's available; it seems better than my XDA Mini S?
3- Screw the contract; it's cheaper to get the latest and greatest off expansys or someone when it arrives.
For my uncle who doesn't have a WM5 device:
1 - Get an XDA Mini S?
2 - Wait a week and grab an XDA Trion?
We are all in the same boat.
I say get a Trion and put Mobile 6 on it. O2 will not have another out until december if their track record is anything to go by. They ave been pissing around with the Zinc for 5 months now, i know my friend works for them and had it in his hands befor xmas.
In that case I am going to tell my uncle to head to a shop and try them out first(I will definitely have a play around as well).
Given o2's uk track record, it's WW release + 3 months (why does o2 UK skip devices anyway?). I might get a Trion depending on the total cost but until it comes out, I think I should get a replacement body and screen protector for my wizard.

HTC Herald vs. HTC Touch

Hi guys!
Sorry for opening such a stupid thread, but I really can't decide which device I'd prefer.
Today I'm going to get a new phone, because I had problems with my VPA Compact II from vodafone. Right now I am looking at the VPA Compact IV and the HTC Touch. I'd like to get my hands on another PPC with UMTS, but the company where my dad works, doesn't allow UMTS phones.
I have to decide very quick.
I heard, that many Touch users are having somthing like dust under their screens. Has the Herald different problems?!
If you had the choice between the Touch and the Herald. Which pocket pc would you choose?
Please help me, because I don't see any differences or pro and cons between these phones except the fact, that the touch is much smaller.
What about the headset?
Guys, please don't let me suffer and try to help me in my decision.
Thanks, Vi
Mr. Vi said:
Hi guys!
because I don't see any differences or pro and cons between these phones except the fact, that the touch is much smaller.
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Herald has a keyboard. Also there is a touch flo ROM avaliable for the Herald.
I had the same difficult decision as you not too long ago. I went with the Herald because of the keyboard. It was actually between a Touch, Herald or iPhone. I didnt like the iPhone because it couldnt really do much, no customization or anything, its basically a toy first, a phone and PDA second.
The Touch is awesome but I definitely wanted the keyboard.
All in all I'm glad I got the Herald and the new Touchflo ROMs make this thing everything the Touch is but better, in my opinion.
So basically, would you rather go for slimness(Touch), or better productivity, ease of use etc.(Herald)?
Thanks for your posts and opinions! I chose the touch because I noticed that I didn't use the keyboard of my wizard too often. I think I'm going to have fun with PocketCM Keyboard
I hope I made a good decision.
Thanks again,
Vi
"but the company where my dad works, doesn't allow UMTS phones."
so your dads workplace can deside what phones their employies kids can have ? :O
Rudegar said:
"but the company where my dad works, doesn't allow UMTS phones."
so your dads workplace can deside what phones their employies kids can have ? :O
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btw how come you aren't allowed UMTS....
Rudegar said:
"but the company where my dad works, doesn't allow UMTS phones."
so your dads workplace can deside what phones their employies kids can have ? :O
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In holland a lot of the pda phones are cheaper on a business contract, but only a company can get such a contract of course. Maybe it's the same in Germany and he's taking that route...

buying a german stellar (kaiser i think) off ebay - live in uk

hello everyone, im glad to be back! haven't used this forum in well over a year and ive missed it. ive decided to get another ppc. i'm looking at getting the tytn 2 off ebay. basically i want just the most powerful spec ppc. apart from the shift and advantage (cant afford them) this seems the best choice. also i would like a qwerty keyboard although b4 i got by with the spb full keyboard but now i want a qwerty one. if anyone can suggest any other ppc's with a high spec let me know plz. i didn't wanna spend more than a 200 quid but after watching ebay for 3 days it seems i have to.i've got 300 quid but for that i'd like a ppc a decent memory card and some bluetooth stereo headphones such as the sony ones. luckily ive got still got loads software (i.e. tomtom) from b4 but that's from older os'es. the one on ebay is 200 buy it now but its shipped from germany.the whole lisitng is in german but at the bottom is says 'attention int. buyers this phone has german software' surely i can just flash it with an english rom such as dutty's? is that correct?just as i was leaving the forums last time. xda-dev had 2 take all the roms down due to a copyright warning from ms. does this mean i have to cook my own? sounds daunting. basically i just wanna know if this german stellar is gonna b compatible on english nets? and if anyones got any suggestions for another ppc. sorry for posting in the general section, maybe this could have went in a different board but i've got 21 hours or so till the auction ends. thanks guys. glad 2 b bk, gareth
p.s. i've got an almost new orbit with a cracked screen. anyone good at fitting screens, or wanna buy it? or sell me a screen lol. ( i still want a newer ppc though) this is why i left the boards- cracked me screen didnt i lol.
cmon ppl
cmon guys sum1 must b able 2 spare me a minute. the auction ends soon. 'can i buy a german kaiser, flash it wiv english rom and use on uk network'
your post is an awful bit of a read - can't get passed the second row. If you write like that you shouldn't be surprised if you don't get an answer.
Just fyi: I own a german Universal and it runs fine with an english rom. I made about 10 phone call today over english networks. Don't see a reason why this should be problem with any other device.
Hope that answers your question - again i didn't read to the end of your post ...
ok cheers, is it cos i dont use the return key or don't talk with full punctuation? i still havent
bought one because of the display drivers ive heard of. this is putting me off. does anyone
know of a similar spec phone that doesn't use the same chip set and doesn't have the lag
issue? i mite buy a tytn 1 just to save my money and buy a newer one in 6 months what do
others think? should i stay away from this fone at the mo? i don't play 3d games really but i do
listen to music and watch vids on ppc's.any suggestions?whats the most powerful fone
excluding shift and advantage? cheers guys
p.s - is this easier to read?

Best Upgrade ??

Currently using Artemis and have done for a while, Re-Flashed loads with new available software, can't fault it at all. Now, Here goes, Looked at xperia and the new O2 Serra, Like them both but was just wondering if there are more better or faultless handsets to upgrade to. With O2 at present and can upgrade any time, Cheers,D
droy68 said:
Currently using Artemis and have done for a while, Re-Flashed loads with new available software, can't fault it at all. Now, Here goes, Looked at xperia and the new O2 Serra, Like them both but was just wondering if there are more better or faultless handsets to upgrade to. With O2 at present and can upgrade any time, Cheers,D
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The Blackstone AKA Touch HD is also a viable option.
A friend of mine bought his from Mobile.co.uk (There's a thead in the Blackstone forum on Mobile.co.uk) on O2, got to keep his number etc.
Ta
Dave
Cheers Dave, Is The Blackstone, AKA Touch HD got the slide out qwerty, Think that would suit me better after pulling out the stylus from my artemis all those times, that's the only drawback with the texting i think. Had a look at a few handsets and was goin to go with what all you guys that are qualified had to say about the best on the market at the moment.
Cheers,D
I´ll wait a little bit
A few days ago has been leaked the HTC roadmap 09 and very very nice devices are coming!
my suggestion is waiting for WM7 to come out.

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