Hello,
I wanted to ask is it legal to create WM6 ROMs for the HTC Wizard . Thnx in advance .
We are not CREATING ROMS, we are EDITING them to our needs and specifications.. for instance u dont like something that comes in the rom, or u want to add something to the rom (thus saving u space, for storage and Program) you just EDIt the rom.... by using the kitchens and packages.. hope i have answered your question
funkadesi said:
We are not CREATING ROMS, we are EDITING them to our needs and specifications.. for instance u dont like something that comes in the rom, or u want to add something to the rom (thus saving u space, for storage and Program) you just EDIt the rom.... by using the kitchens and packages.. hope i have answered your question
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Sorry but still my questions remains but a changed a bit now, IS EDITING ROMS TO OUR NEEDS ILLEGAL? Thnx to funkadesi.
i would say this with some certainty, but maybe a senior member can correct me:
to edit a ROM to your own specifications and put on your device for your own personal use is not illegal, as long as the method by which the original rom was obtained was not illegal.
to edit a ROM and redistribute it to others likely crosses a legal line.
Why Does It Matter???
I'm curious why it matters so much. Fact is, for the Wizard, we would not and never will have a true WM6...and frankly, I could care less if I have a cooked rom, especially since my rom is better than what I would get from Tmo...who also will not provide any updates. So if I am to be held to pay for a new device for hundreds of dollars to have a WM6 rom, or use one of XDA's talented chef/developer's rom's...well hands down, I will stick with xda. If that makes me illegal, screw it. I refuse to use the crappy stock Tmo WM5 rom that came on my device...it is slow and buggy and needed daily rebooting. The only time my phone gets a reboot now is when I have to do it for a program install or uninstall. My beloved Jaguar is so dependably stable...I will never go back to a stock rom!!
I honestly do not know the ethics/morality behind cooking a rom, and really don't care either!! All I know is that XDA has given more to the "Wizarding" community than M$, Tmo, AT&T or any of those other greedy bastards ever have or ever will. I sleep just fine at night despite my use of NTS's rom.
Tell me this...let's say you bought a designer suit, but it didn't quite fit right...would tailoring it to your needs be in some violation? You bought the suit, you need it to fit you, so you modify to do so.
I bought the MDA. Someone somewhere also bought a device with WM6...it got tailored to my needs. Not point by point the same thing as my suit example, but since M$ refuses to produce a WM6 for a my device, why should I be punished and forced to buy a different device when my Wizard works so well?? Why buy another suit to wear when you can simply get the one you have tailored to fit you?
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i would say this with some certainty, but maybe a senior member can correct me:
to edit a ROM to your own specifications and put on your device for your own personal use is not illegal, as long as the method by which the original rom was obtained was not illegal.
to edit a ROM and redistribute it to others likely crosses a legal line.
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I didn't understand that, u mean that if i edit a ROM and redistribute it for free on my site, would it be illegal? Sorry for my lack of understanding. Thnx to xsbeats too .
xda2_haseeb said:
I didn't understand that, u mean that if i edit a ROM and redistribute it for free on my site, would it be illegal? Sorry for my lack of understanding. Thnx to xsbeats too .
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See, now more info is coming out from you. You are not wondering if it is illegal...you are wondering if posting a cooked rom on YOUR WEBSITE illegal. That would be something for the mods to answer...
I do not know the legality behind it, but XDA developers share their rom's here. Now I think if you tried to SELL a cooked rom, you could definately end up in some legal issues.
basically it doesn't really matter if it's illegal or not, it's nothing that will ever come back to you...
picture this...a cop jumps out of his car and is on fire, and you pee on him to put the fire out...yeah, you pee'd on a cop, but you also saved his life. lol, that probably proved nothing, but i found it kind of funny. basically it may be illegal it may not be, but nothing will ever come of it, so i wouldn't even ponder on it too much
All I'd say is that you make sure the rom you post is your work...because if you post another cook's rom without their permission or without giving them the credit, you will most probably have a pissed off XDA developer on your ass...and I'd think that could be worse than any BS legal threats that M$ will probably never do!!!
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I didn't understand that, u mean that if i edit a ROM and redistribute it for free on my site, would it be illegal? Sorry for my lack of understanding. Thnx to xsbeats too .
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XDA-Dev used to store the roms right here on this website. Due to pressure from cell companies (as I understand it), Microsoft used legal threats to force xda-dev to remove all the roms (that was almost a year ago, and many felt that would kill this site). Thats why you mostly have to deal with getting them via rapidshare or whatever.
The Eula says WM is not to be modified or redistibuted.
I do know that some people from htc, Microsoft and AT&T watch this site and actually love the work that goes on here (Others definetly don't feel the same).
Just my thoughts...
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I do know that some people from htc, Microsoft and AT&T watch this site and actually love the work that goes on here
Code:
That is because XDA kicks ass!
(Others definetly don't feel the same)
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Well that would probably be similar to having penis envy...
they know XDA rocks and that they don't match up!
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^^^Well at least that is my view on the subject!^^^
Here's the bottom line, when you get down to it.
You kill a resource like this, a lot of Wizard owners will buy a Nokia.
Then Microsoft and HTC never sell that person another device/OS on a mobile platform.
That's kind of a problem for them. Unlike the desktop PC where you pretty much have to run Windows for a lot of purposes, on the mobile side there is no particular need to use a HTC device or Windows Mobile - there ARE other, competing alternatives that in fact have majority market share.
The carriers "efforts" in this regard are beyond lame and border on stupid. The instability in most of the stock ROMs are nutty bad and there is no "retail" upgrade option available (that is, unlike my home PC, for which I CAN go buy Vista, the option doesn't exist for my HTC Wizard)
Here's an ineresting article that has a Microsoftie recommending using some rom tools to pull out products like rdp for various reasons
msmobiles article
Money Quote:
MSMobiles said:
Scott Yost from Windows Mobile division of Microsoft USA, who specializes there in code signing, security policies, revocation and certificates, admits:
There are unsupported tools externally available that are able to copy the modules out of ROM and then try to reconstruct the original file. If you still need to extract those bytes, you can probably find one of those tools.
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Thnx everybosy for there replies my question is now answered, i have come to the point that:
""I can edit and keep a ROM on my own site""
Do correct if mistaken.
Thnx to all.
Related
Yes, it is true, read the annoucement on top of the threads.
This means, no more hosting for the ROMs (released ones of ones created by us) this is a BIG loss as it's always a pain in the neck to great any ROM and will push ROM creation into the illegal zone
I will make my prophet ROMs available somewhere else, details will follow later.
ps.
yes i'm back, hopefully with a new ROM soon, I had to deal with a lot of personal crap, but i'm back again.
hi Jesterz,
welcome back! We missed you!
ASERG has release a nice Aku 3.3 Rom. Maybe you two can come toghether a release a PERFECT one
John
Hi Jesterz!!!
Welcome Back!!!!!
We were waiting for you!
The microsoft choice is a shame!
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Hi Jesterz!!!
Welcome Back!!!!!
We were waiting for you!
The Microsoft choice is a shame!
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Yeah wellcome back This is good news...
As for "Microsoft's choice".... hope they burn in hell lol well in my perspective they're just trying to finish off those dedicate persons like Jesterz that are working hard to correct Microsoft's software defects...
Hopefully we can all learn from this as I think M$ just reacted to Carrier induced pressure due to lots and lots of customer complaints of bricked devices due to failure to understand ROM upgrade procedures... So please if you are reading this and don't have a clue of how upgrade procedures work, either, don't complain and deal with your bricked device (in a worst case scenario) or don't upgrade at all.
It's a shame
These guys from Redmond shoul learn to respect the work of theyr customers.
We make it possible that they get theyr monthly payment.
I hope we find a way to share our roms and tools any other way.
Any ideas yet?
I'll pray for us.
Sky
Yeah.. it's pretty retarded... The only bloody reason I bought an HTC device is cause I knew I could flash the rom for newer AKUs and fixes and stuff... I should've just waited for the damn iPhone.. lol....
http://www.petitiononline.com/xdadevs/petition.html
What the panic is all about?
I don't get it why you all surrender to this Redmond threats.
Usenets have been around for decades. I am a regular user of Usenets from '95 and I can tell you that their strong arm didn't and probably won't reach there.
Why not simply post your valuable stuff there and leave our cherrished forum clean of any files whatsoever?
Just post to alt.binaries.warez.pocketpc and by the way the kind of stuff we find there is really lacking the quality we got here so the newsgroup might just improve that way.
What do you think?
It's so sad to see how MS is dealing with this situation. I have owned PPC's for some time know, and not until I started having problems first with my universal and recently with my prophet that I got into this community. This web site is the best thing that has happened to MS and HTC. I have singed Jester's petition to MS. I know that if this happens I shall go to PALM o iPhone. THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is sad indeed...
At least the good news is that you're back... so welcome back Jesterz
History teaches us nothing.
It is not by taking the ROM archive dowm that MS can stop ROMs from going around!
Why don't they simply try to release ROMs that WOULD NOT require any interventions from the final user instead.
Looks like the "prohibitionism" has taught these guys nothing at all.
i suggest we can use http://www.mydatabus.com host to share our roms. (up to 5 G space pro person and stable).
Rapidshare, megaupload, uploading...etc are not good solutions for us to download and exchange file. Because it will be deleted in limited times.
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i suggest we can use http://www.mydatabus.com host to share our roms. (up to 5 G space pro person and stable).
Rapidshare, megaupload, uploading...etc are not good solutions for us to download and exchange file. Because it will be deleted in limited times.
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looks great this site!! i will use it!
EDIT. One question in this site...ours files don´t are delited?
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looks great this site!! i will use it!
EDIT. One question in this site...ours files don´t are delited?
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it is yourself's private storage space, it depends on you, if delete a file or not. but when you want to share the file, you must make it public.
Any idea where i could download jesterz G4 rom? Am in urgent need of it.If someone could help me out i would be really greatful.
Thanks Jesterz,
please keep us posted of the possible new roms!
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Any idea where i could download jesterz G4 rom? Am in urgent need of it.If someone could help me out i would be really greatful.
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Does anyone know of official archives for ROMs outside of XDA ftp?
type "RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_QtekWWE_Ship.exe" in google...
We demand our freedom
I came into this forum a couple of weeks back with a bricked prophet G4 & a O2 XDA Exec(UK). Since then not only i have been able to restore my prophet ,I have been able to learn a lot abt PPC as a whole. Its a shame that M$ feels thereatened by this forum as we have done nothing wrong except to give people choice!!! Isn't it our right to choose & develop??? Who's MS to stop us?? Where were they whan I was running from pillar to post to get my bricked prophet running....
Well I just got into cooking and I've gotten different views about a GOOD WM6 Rom, I like my Roms Vanilla I use it for basic things Email, Texting, Surfing, Aim, Music and Word sometimes with things like that I dont need alot of preinstalled applications on my Roms I build...But now I'm looking to cook a rom for all users.
If everyone that would like to see a rom like this build meaning pretty much to your liking make a List and post here in 3 categories: Included, Removed, and Reg Hacks. I'll try to make the best rom out of all the users input that post here.
Thanks.
30 views and no one has an idea of the kind of wm6 they would like built?
From what i remember, in the bible is said something like this
"Give the man a fish, he will eat it and starve, give him a fishing rod and he can catch his own fish "
P.S. And NO, I am not a bible fanatic lol
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From what i remember, in the bible is said something like this
"Give the man a fish, he will eat it and starve, give him a fishing rod and he can catch his own fish "
P.S. And NO, I am not a bible fanatic lol
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LOL, reason I made this thread is because people always complain in all rom releases so i'm looking for a complaint free Rom release. A high goal I know but I'd rather try and fail then not try at all.
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From what i remember, in the bible is said something like this
"Give the man a fish, he will eat it and starve, give him a fishing rod and he can catch his own fish "
P.S. And NO, I am not a bible fanatic lol
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no it was like this, give a man a fire and he's warm for the night, set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life. Yeah i think it was something along the lines rofl.
ANTC,
Is it possible to replace WMP with MUCH better TCPMP media player? I guess it is, it's a matter of making the OEM package for TCPMP and removing all the traces of WMP?
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LOL, reason I made this thread is because people always complain in all rom releases so i'm looking for a complaint free Rom release. A high goal I know but I'd rather try and fail then not try at all.
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You will never make them all happy. That's a harsh reality unfortunately.
But...look at this thread ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306967
or this one, so you get an idea
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284501
Good luck
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no it was like this, give a man a fire and he's warm for the night, set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life. Yeah i think it was something along the lines rofl.
ANTC,
Is it possible to replace WMP with MUCH better TCPMP media player? I guess it is, it's a matter of making the OEM package for TCPMP and removing all the traces of WMP?
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Correct, thats something to look into...
and thanks anichillus i'll look at that too
I think that will be pretty hard to remove windows media player...to many references to it..easy wai is to also install TCMP and remove the link to WMplayer. ... or actually replace it with TCMP and rename it hehe
Also QuadDamage ...you railed me with that fire thing ROTFL
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LOL, reason I made this thread is because people always complain in all rom releases so i'm looking for a complaint free Rom release. A high goal I know but I'd rather try and fail then not try at all.
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It'll never happen...you just can't please everybody!!!!
For those who complain...screw'm!
There's enough Vanilla ROMs floating around...working or not.
I would like to see a ROM cooked with commercial programs such as Resco Explorer 07 and SPB Weather just to name a couple. Don't put out a finished product but have a bunch of programs in a Kitchen and let us Cook up the finished product. There are several base roms to choose from...but pick one where everything is working. If there's an issue with something...give out the patch.
I'm no chef but I can cook in a kitchen....for those who can't...again, there's enough WM6 ROMs for anyone to salivate over.
This is ...a developer's forum!
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It'll never happen...you just can't please everybody!!!!
For those who complain...screw'm!
There's enough Vanilla ROMs floating around...working or not.
I would like to see a ROM cooked with commercial programs such as Resco Explorer 07 and SPB Weather just to name a couple. Don't put out a finished product but have a bunch of programs in a Kitchen and let us Cook up the finished product. There are several base roms to choose from...but pick one where everything is working. If there's an issue with something...give out the patch.
I'm no chef but I can cook in a kitchen....for those who can't...again, there's enough WM6 ROMs for anyone to salivate over.
This is ...a developer's forum!
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Well, look at the pandora's box. should be enough in there to keep anyone from complaining. minus the commercial software of course. But thats the best part. the kitchen will allow you to create your own packages, no matter what they arte. An im always willing to help. I cant build them for you if they are commercial though. I wont put myself in that position. LOL. I dont want any trouble and the last thing i want is the admins here getting flack for it.
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Well, look at the pandora's box. should be enough in there to keep anyone from complaining. minus the commercial software of course. But thats the best part. the kitchen will allow you to create your own packages, no matter what they arte. An im always willing to help. I cant build them for you if they are commercial though. I wont put myself in that position. LOL. I dont want any trouble and the last thing i want is the admins here getting flack for it.
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I'd only support freeware in roms I make
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Correct, thats something to look into...
and thanks anichillus i'll look at that too
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thanks man. Actually it shouldn't be too hard - there aren't many refernces/files WMP related from what i've seen (Molski kitchen) just one folder and a couple of reg lines here and there. BTW, current ROM's are filled with reg junk anyway, just run SKtools and you'll see.
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Well, look at the pandora's box. should be enough in there to keep anyone from complaining. minus the commercial software of course. But thats the best part. the kitchen will allow you to create your own packages, no matter what they arte. An im always willing to help. I cant build them for you if they are commercial though. I wont put myself in that position. LOL. I dont want any trouble and the last thing i want is the admins here getting flack for it.
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You're already in the fire.....you cook WM6
Granted, commercial software is paid for.....the software I use is paid for. I have licenses for everything I use. A mojority of us use the same software on the same ROMs, why not have it built in?
With the kichen, you are not putting out a finished product and there is no liability. Those with serials can use the kitchen completely.
I understand what you mean by putting the site in jeopardy but roms are no longer stored here but that didn't stop the chefs from getting the ROMs out.
Not trying to start trouble....this thread was started to get ideas and I gave one.
Thanks for reading..........
so anyone else besides removing wmp..i just dont see it being worth it removing
I would like to see Outlook as part of Office 07 and an accessory File in pograms that will allow you to restart,suspend PPC.Of course Live messenger and live search is a must for me... New Java esmerac, and Microsofts voice dial, if it can be cooked into the rom and work. Cingular /AT&T cooked into the rom..
i would like to have WinRAR along with RegEdit, and even WM5torage.
-Nstefanelli-
hi to all
i would like to say that: i finally ported a real build after getting some instructions in porting the roms from a device to another.
the good thing is that i fixed the known issues about the phone, like if you call a busy number you will get busy tone and the phone shows busy instead of showing connected , also when you recieve a waiting call and you didn't answere that you get missed call instead of recieved call, these things will know them if you use any other builds like 1437, 1620 and 318(the official one).
all my roms cooked using old builds because of these issues, thats why i started working and learning about porting. (i will never use any other cooks like 1437 or 1620 and you know for that with the releasing)
the new build will be exclusivly for TNT users (no need for write the causes)
the new TNT (5.0) will be released in 10 days (i hope )
So you don't plan on releasing this in a kitchen?
If not the title is misleading, because it is not 'good news for all wizard users'. It would only be good news for the people who use your rom, which would be a small percentage of all wizard users.
Please release this in a kitchen so the fixes will reach more people, whether it is through people creating their own rom or using a cooks rom who used your kitchen.
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So you don't plan on releasing this in a kitchen?
If not the title is misleading, because it is not 'good news for all wizard users'. It would only be good news for the people who use your rom, which would be a small percentage of all wizard users.
Please release this in a kitchen so the fixes will reach more people, whether it is through people creating their own rom or using a cooks rom who used your kitchen.
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sorry for writing for all users and i will change it right now.
about share the kitchen, i'm so sorry for that because there are many and many of people (especially come of cookers) i saw they didn't credit their cooks to the base rom chef, this thing sure will make the porter to stop porting and maybe encrypt that (like i will do), this doesn't mean all cookers, there are many credit their base rom to his cooker like mfrazz.
and this thread is for discussion before it is good news
WOOT!!!!
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sorry for writing for all users and i will change it right now.
about share the kitchen, i'm so sorry for that because there are many and many of people (especially come of cookers) i saw they didn't credit their cooks to the base rom chef, this thing sure will make the porter to stop porting and maybe encrypt that (like i will do), this doesn't mean all cookers, there are many credit their base rom to his cooker like mfrazz.
and this thread is for discussion before it is good news
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FANTASTIC News!!!! I hope you use the compressed and tested Office 2007 so we can get goodies like BT DUN along with Internet Sharing in the roms. I think including the PP change files would solve alot of the "gotta upload 5 different PP versions" and ease your distrobution headaches.
I personally dont care for the "touch" look at all. Its Flat and lifeless. I use programs I paid for such as Ilauncher, Pocket Breeze, and Resco for my Today layout.
I do like the touch scrolling but thats about it.
I do wish there was a way of including the WeatherPanel & WP-Pilot, but its rather large with all the added icons, unless we boot out defaults and just include the chameleon-240 and Yahoo weather icons aka making those the defaults.
I love your roms, great selection of included apps.
Waiting with baited breath,
A Die-Hard Fan.
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FANTASTIC News!!!! I hope you use the compressed and tested Office 2007 so we can get goodies like BT DUN along with Internet Sharing in the roms. I think including the PP change files would solve alot of the "gotta upload 5 different PP versions" and ease your distrobution headaches.
I personally dont care for the "touch" look at all. Its Flat and lifeless. I use programs I paid for such as Ilauncher, Pocket Breeze, and Resco for my Today layout.
I do like the touch scrolling but thats about it.
I do wish there was a way of including the WeatherPanel & WP-Pilot, but its rather large with all the added icons, unless we boot out defaults and just include the chameleon-240 and Yahoo weather icons aka making those the defaults.
I love your roms, great selection of included apps.
Waiting with baited breath,
A Die-Hard Fan.
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good notes bro, about compressions i don't like to compress any file, compressions sure will give some of issues if you don't noted now you note later, but give more explain for BT DUN
its right said:
sorry for writing for all users and i will change it right now.
about share the kitchen, i'm so sorry for that because there are many and many of people (especially come of cookers) i saw they didn't credit their cooks to the base rom chef, this thing sure will make the porter to stop porting and maybe encrypt that (like i will do), this doesn't mean all cookers, there are many credit their base rom to his cooker like mfrazz.
and this thread is for discussion before it is good news
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Thanks for helping the community.
I hope you get the pat on the back that you are looking for.
jruser said:
Thanks for helping the community.
I hope you get the pat on the back that you are looking for.
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i'm looking for crediting the work for every one helped and worked very hard for any part of cooking, go to the most of rom threads and check if they credit something to anyone else or not!! is it mean the rom cooker did all the work hemself !!!
I know exacly what its right is saying... now we are starting to see button free activation of the cube in more and more roms and the HTC 4.11 camera is in many roms but do you see my name anywhere? NO
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I know exacly what its right is saying... now we are starting to see button free activation of the cube in more and more roms and the HTC 4.11 camera is in many roms but do you see my name anywhere? NO
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this thing will kill the extractor efforts to do any new working
these thing will never be full understaing till you see someone used your works w/o credits, for example dr.yar and winxplore i never saw them on any rom, i did the package and of course i lost a lot of time to looking for usefull apps, finally you will see other people used them as he did it himself.
Thank you, its right!
You make excellent ROMs and I am looking forward to this next one!
@its right, many people who gives credit i think should be allowed via PMs, i say. I mean if we don't share then basically there will be no community. I'd say can you can give kitchen to ppl who gives out credit like mfraaz, myself and alot others. As far as i go, i don't release my cook anymore because alot of other pros like you and mfrazz have em out. I keep it for myself because of the appz i like in there. Anyways do take in consideration.
Perhaps those whose work has been stolen or used without permission could address offending members via PM. Alternatively those whose work was stolen or used without permission might like to consider publicly naming and shaming the offenders.
Watermarking your work is another method that may reduce the incidence of stolen work. Furthermore when members release something perhaps they could advise that permission needs to be granted before incorporating their work into other projects. I suppose at the height of anti-pirating measures and also at the height of complexity remains the incorporation of activation codes, but I'd hope this forum never degrades to the point of needing this counter-measure.
I'm not going to remind you all that most of the information associated with your devices and their operating systems should be freely available and distributed information. Well....not yet anyway.
@its right
All the best and Good Luck with your release
peter petrelli said:
Perhaps those whose work has been stolen or used without permission could address offending members via PM. Alternatively those whose work was stolen or used without permission might like to consider publicly naming and shaming the offenders.
Watermarking your work is another method that may reduce the incidence of stolen work. Furthermore when members release something perhaps they could advise that permission needs to be granted before incorporating their work into other projects. I suppose at the height of anti-pirating measures and also at the height of complexity remains the incorporation of activation codes, but I'd hope this forum never degrades to the point of needing this counter-measure.
I'm not going to remind you all that most of the information associated with your devices and their operating systems should be freely available and distributed information. Well....not yet anyway.
@its right
All the best and Good Luck with your release
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Its not anti-piracy. The people that release these roms hold no copyright in them whatsoever.
I think people should release stuff to the community with the expectation that it will be used and re-used if it is worth it (like mUn's releases). People expecting credit for software they did not write are releasing for the wrong reasons.
Microsoft and HTC own most of the copyrights, yet people want credit for ripping off their software.
There are a few people around here who wrote tools and developed the methods that are used for dumping and porting roms. Most all other 'cooks' do nothing but use these tools and methods, create a few OEM packages, and change a few registry entries.
EDIT: I'll stop posting now and let this thread serve its original purpose.
jruser said:
Its not anti-piracy. The people that release these roms hold no copyright in them whatsoever.
I think people should release stuff to the community with the expectation that it will be used and re-used if it is worth it (like mUn's releases). People expecting credit for software they did not write are releasing for the wrong reasons.
Microsoft and HTC own most of the copyrights, yet people want credit for ripping off their software.
There are a few people around here who wrote tools and developed the methods that are used for dumping and porting roms. Most all other 'cooks' do nothing but use these tools and methods, create a few OEM packages, and change a few registry entries.
EDIT: I'll stop posting now and let this thread serve its original purpose.
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the purpose started with the starting of this thread bro, its discussion.
of course microsoft and HTC have all credits w/o writing the credits.
Looking foreward to it...Its Right
Credit
Sorry for saying this but not releasing the kitchen because of not giving credits is bull ****, why?? if only 1 freak don't give credit's to witherat is not a reason not to releae a kitchen . I don't see you give credit to microsoft for suppling you the rom what will they say???
But nice work if you do it and will release it.
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the new TNT (5.0) will be released in 10 days (i hope )
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Excellent. I am a happy user of TNT 4.0 (because of most of other ROMs having problems with registering missed calls properly when data connection is active).
Thank you for the great work.
IMHO it would be good to release the all info for community (there will be always people stealing other people work, it is just reality), but if you do not want to do it, I understand...
Being quite happy with TNT, I do not need kitchen personally.
Mirek
This is turning into the PSP community in which the latest custom firmware (similar to the ROMs here) was encrypted and had a check placed to brick the PSP of anyone that went to a specific website which had stolen work in the past - no one deserves a bricked device and it won't be long before the attitude here will be the same...
can't wait for this release.... TNT 4 is clearly one of the best ROMs out there.
I'll state first I don't agree with the whole "I'm not gonna share because you might not give me credit" however since he did all the work porting it, then really he's free to do whatever he chooses.
That being said...don't most of the current kitchen's allow you to take a released rom and extract it directly to use as a base? Doesn't that make the whole "I'm not gonna release" issue moot?
*I have not cooked a rom so I'm asking based on posts I've read.*
How the hell the chineses get this fabulous rom MAMBOJAMBO versions?
http://www.brsbox.com/filebox/down/fc/b65ce1d84c96efc4b36b37bf399b2afb/rand/1560472572
WM6.1 20815 Universal
at this speed, they will have the wm7 before microsoft finish ( kidding).
But really, how they do it, from where they get this crazy versions?
Why they close this roms just for chinese in a way just a BIG VODOO can dump the imagefs.bin? and just after some months we that spend 2h to understand one ideogram can have to?
:-(
Have you tested already?
Any screenshots?
i wanna give it a try tonight but its gunna take me 3 hrs to dl hopefully someone can do it faster
i wonder if this is for G3 or G4.. downloading and testing.. comments later..
Damn it!
Fast, very fast compilation on standard CPU speed.
WM 6.1 Professional, CE 5.2.20815 20815.1.4.0
Beautyfull icons,
stable, GPRS, Wi-Fi (WPA-PSK2) ok. Included MMS Composer 5.0.27.35, WMP 10.3 B20748, Camera 3.0 B25626
Is it in chinese? Can we understand anything?
Ooop! relly fast, pretty icons etc.
but only chinese
wondering if we can have this damn thing in WWE
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All in chinese, but partialy understandable (arrangement identical as in english WWE)
What do me AFRAID, is, if i start to search more its possible to find more newer version, i find about 209xx versions for dopodop900 .
more crazy is, if you read at chinese forums, this rom have one, 2 months. WE ARE SLOW in ocident
soon they will release windows 8 when ever microsoft started to work in that.
Screenshots please
F_R_I_T_Z said:
How the hell the chineses get this fabulous rom MAMBOJAMBO versions?
http://www.brsbox.com/filebox/down/fc/b65ce1d84c96efc4b36b37bf399b2afb/rand/1560472572
WM6.1 20815 Universal
at this speed, they will have the wm7 before microsoft finish ( kidding).
But really, how they do it, from where they get this crazy versions?
Why they close this roms just for chinese in a way just a BIG VODOO can dump the imagefs.bin? and just after some months we that spend 2h to understand one ideogram can have to?
:-(
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this rom not real 20815 was HEX from 20738
F_R_I_T_Z said:
What do me AFRAID, is, if i start to search more its possible to find more newer version, i find about 209xx versions for dopodop900 .
more crazy is, if you read at chinese forums, this rom have one, 2 months. WE ARE SLOW in ocident
soon they will release windows 8 when ever microsoft started to work in that.
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209xx also HEX , there also had 20777 , 20759...etc real version was 20758
mwang said:
209xx also HEX , there also had 20777 , 20759...etc real version was 20758
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So, it's a fake?
Jmp_3f8h said:
So, it's a fake?
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It's a working rom, with old build
Everyone, i know that, about to be hex.
first thing i look inside a rom was dsm, certificate dates and other things..
( the only ROMS versions i have doubts are 20755 and 20753 seems at last in part real.
But i do this posts in a provocative way.
More about this **** crippling in imagefs, in nk.nbf they are doing to "PROTECT THEIR WORK" ( GUESS WHEN MICROSOFT WILL PROTECT THEeir WORK SAME WAY PLUS LAWYERS AND OTHER THINGS) FROM OUR ( OR SENYOR MEMBERS REALLY DO THE HARD JOB) reENGINEERING.
If they want cript some icons, or programs is inside ok.. programs, programs codes, etc. belongs who made.
BUT .RGUS, DSM, XIP, SYS, STANDARD OEMS? they are protecting WHAT FROM WHO? THIS BELONGS MICROSFT/HTC NOT THIS PERSONS. THE KNOWLEDGEMENT TO USE THIS WAS SPREAD AROUND FOR PERSONS THAT REALLY HAVE THE SPIRIT OF LEARN AND SHARE LEARN. ( BIG HUHAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa FOR THIS GUYS, LIVE IN MY HEART, HAVE MY SUPPORT, HAVE MY FRIENDSHIP).
HOW CLOSED WE BECOME TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ( AGAIN) A SINGLE THING FROM OUR DEVICES JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE SPEND 10 DAYS DISCOVERING AND DINT WANT TO SHARE THE DISCOVER. IF this do they fell better, stay with information not release something that use this. if you have a new info and release something with this but dont give to the COMMUNITY or share this for other, THEY are using this just to show HOG GOOD they are in detriment others and how BIG THE EGO IS. ( when i say information is drivers, registry things and similars informations for our unis, not OU CODE PROGRAMS and this like)
How can be or happens if Tovalds start hide the GIT codes, because he spend hours working in a single piece of kernel code and lather just wrote in blog, now this work and say everyone, who. no, iam not releasing this, iam protecting my work. discover by yourself or way someday i release this.
BESIDES some devices forums still active a lot, look around, XDA forum is dying for some devices, ( UNIVERSAL ONE), just because A KIND of envy, not share knowledge ( iam not speaking CODES OR PROGRAMS).
PDAVIET release their roms without RGUS, chinese do thing in chinese for chinese in chineses sites that now need to be write in chinese and levitated by chinese because XDA guys stolen her jobs ( Who? i read this a lot some CHINESES sites).
I hate to live in a world where IAM BETTER YOU BECAUSE I SPEAK THIS OR IAM FROM THERE. ( DAMN HITLER w. BUSH and all MA'FIAA" and all "RED BOOKS" GODS GOVERNMENT that spread this)
This do me upset, ****...
and about what iam speaking... if someone write hoo, and what you do for community?
Soon, WITH the poorly SUPPORT i have. iam to release a kind of kitchen for our unis. Not new at side of discovery, not new at side of drivers. Using the well know tools.
But more to do new peoples, play with this things, do stupid obvious question and maybe after some time this NOT MORE stupid person was attracted by play with this, write something or do a BRILLIANT new discover for us.
but at last iam trying to put a fresh air here.. not closing forums with languages or cript things...
Well, was just this i have wish of speak..
A LITTLE EDIT..
About this crazy new numbers versions.
for US, UNIVERSAL, if no one start to try port THINGS REALLY MATTER, like OEM PACKAGES, DRIVERS ( like phonesettings from newer devices).
just upper XIP/SYS with new numbers will show GREAT, but it is something cosmetic in most part..
What matter is someone do a HELL HACK in XIP to speed bost our devices, or MERGE all PIECES of RAM IN ONE I MEAN FLASH DISK AND STORAGE), DO A HELL HACK in OUR GSM DRIVER TO EVEN GET THE BASIC ENGINNER MODE WORK and we have use of cell towercode. DO A CRAZY MOD IN OUR BT DEVICES to become CRAZY NEW.. DO A MORE THAN CRAZY CRAZY VODOO and besides upgrade 128 MEGS but 256megs. PORT THE CRAZY DRIVERS FROM NEWER DEVICES TO TAKE ANY KIND OF ADVANTAGE FOR OUR UNIS, SAME NOT HAVE NEW AWESOME GPU/OMAP/AT/NVIDIA CHIPSET INSTRUCTION.
So then will have something NEW, not just VERSIONATE NUMBERS.
Huu.. iam more THIN now i put oustise what i have wish of speak...
F_R_I_T_Z said:
Everyone, i know that, about to be hex.
first thing i look inside a rom was dsm, certificate dates and other things..
( the only ROMS versions i have doubts are 20755 and 20753 seems at last in part real.
But i do this posts in a provocative way.
More about this **** crippling in imagefs, in nk.nbf they are doing to "PROTECT THEIR WORK" ( GUESS WHEN MICROSOFT WILL PROTECT THEeir WORK SAME WAY PLUS LAWYERS AND OTHER THINGS) FROM OUR ( OR SENYOR MEMBERS REALLY DO THE HARD JOB) reENGINEERING.
If they want cript some icons, or programs is inside ok.. programs, programs codes, etc. belongs who made.
BUT .RGUS, DSM, XIP, SYS, STANDARD OEMS? they are protecting WHAT FROM WHO? THIS BELONGS MICROSFT/HTC NOT THIS PERSONS. THE KNOWLEDGEMENT TO USE THIS WAS SPREAD AROUND FOR PERSONS THAT REALLY HAVE THE SPIRIT OF LEARN AND SHARE LEARN. ( BIG HUHAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa FOR THIS GUYS, LIVE IN MY HEART, HAVE MY SUPPORT, HAVE MY FRIENDSHIP).
HOW CLOSED WE BECOME TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ( AGAIN) A SINGLE THING FROM OUR DEVICES JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE SPEND 10 DAYS DISCOVERING AND DINT WANT TO SHARE THE DISCOVER. IF this do they fell better, stay with information not release something that use this. if you have a new info and release something with this but dont give to the COMMUNITY or share this for other, THEY are using this just to show HOG GOOD they are in detriment others and how BIG THE EGO IS. ( when i say information is drivers, registry things and similars informations for our unis, not OU CODE PROGRAMS and this like)
How can be or happens if Tovalds start hide the GIT codes, because he spend hours working in a single piece of kernel code and lather just wrote in blog, now this work and say everyone, who. no, iam not releasing this, iam protecting my work. discover by yourself or way someday i release this.
BESIDES some devices forums still active a lot, look around, XDA forum is dying for some devices, ( UNIVERSAL ONE), just because A KIND of envy, not share knowledge ( iam not speaking CODES OR PROGRAMS).
PDAVIET release their roms without RGUS, chinese do thing in chinese for chinese in chineses sites that now need to be write in chinese and levitated by chinese because XDA guys stolen her jobs ( Who? i read this a lot some CHINESES sites).
I hate to live in a world where IAM BETTER YOU BECAUSE I SPEAK THIS OR IAM FROM THERE. ( DAMN HITLER w. BUSH and all MA'FIAA" and all "RED BOOKS" GODS GOVERNMENT that spread this)
This do me upset, ****...
and about what iam speaking... if someone write hoo, and what you do for community?
Soon, WITH the poorly SUPPORT i have. iam to release a kind of kitchen for our unis. Not new at side of discovery, not new at side of drivers. Using the well know tools.
But more to do new peoples, play with this things, do stupid obvious question and maybe after some time this NOT MORE stupid person was attracted by play with this, write something or do a BRILLIANT new discover for us.
but at last iam trying to put a fresh air here.. not closing forums with languages or cript things...
Well, was just this i have wish of speak..
A LITTLE EDIT..
About this crazy new numbers versions.
for US, UNIVERSAL, if no one start to try port THINGS REALLY MATTER, like OEM PACKAGES, DRIVERS ( like phonesettings from newer devices).
just upper XIP/SYS with new numbers will show GREAT, but it is something cosmetic in most part..
What matter is someone do a HELL HACK in XIP to speed bost our devices, or MERGE all PIECES of RAM IN ONE I MEAN FLASH DISK AND STORAGE), DO A HELL HACK in OUR GSM DRIVER TO EVEN GET THE BASIC ENGINNER MODE WORK and we have use of cell towercode. DO A CRAZY MOD IN OUR BT DEVICES to become CRAZY NEW.. DO A MORE THAN CRAZY CRAZY VODOO and besides upgrade 128 MEGS but 256megs. PORT THE CRAZY DRIVERS FROM NEWER DEVICES TO TAKE ANY KIND OF ADVANTAGE FOR OUR UNIS, SAME NOT HAVE NEW AWESOME GPU/OMAP/AT/NVIDIA CHIPSET INSTRUCTION.
So then will have something NEW, not just VERSIONATE NUMBERS.
Huu.. iam more THIN now i put oustise what i have wish of speak...
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Understanding your point , the problem came from many cookers who dump rom and recooked never mention base rom came from where , special PDAVIET,some of us working hard to get new build working with old devices but what we got ? nothing , we can share with our work but who care ? from long time ago darkforcesteam release some of build without protection after three days that build all of place ( which I release 5 different languages) , did they said base rom came from DFT ? no , nothing at all , seems thier work and ask for donation , we never ask for donation , we are working for free but even a little be "Thank your hard work" no one want to say that's why we start add protection,we was here long enough and help this COMMUNITY,
if you can read Chinese see here http://www.darkforcesteam.com/showthread.php?t=351, we will release 20758 for Uni WWE/CHT next week , of couse will be had protection.
see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436821 does he mention where base rom from ? 20758 was we working a month to got that .
mwang
I already know your viewpoint and from other persons about this to.
I already have work stolen and even fired after this and the company used my work with another name( under justice now )..
But its the risk of all this.
Again.. imaginate if Linus Tovalds stop the kernel just because companies use some code inside a program or already the entire KERNEL and receive BIG MONEY for that. ( iam speaking REALLY BIG MONEY and this really happens all time).
The spirit of SHARE sometimes need to be little more than that.
when i start something i think. Humm, iam doing this for money, for personal use, to hobby or for GLORY?
If iam doing something for money. and someone use my work. Its matter of justice. I NEED RECEIVE FOR THIS...
If iam doing this for fun, hoby.. damn.. the time i spend trying to understand something or do work was the cool point of all, someone used this and never speak about me? so.. problem of this person. I know the risk of do something and turn public. who know what i do, is enough to do BETTER what was better ( the CHALLENGE by itself).
If iam doing this for personal use ( to prof myself iam GOOD A LOT), i even mentioned this to someone.
If iam doing something for GLORY THEN, of course i want everyone speak my name... but is not usual in my formation. Because this i become sad..
And same you can look about this here at xda forum.
from a time to now. besides some devices still very active.. others are failing down ( not because are old), but because the refuse of what EXIST and was shared sometime not be around any more. BECOME HARD.
Of course i can search and learn like who discover first time..
but reinvent the reinvented wheel. its loose time. Its put a happiness in develop something UTILE, in the sadness of doing something standard. so i close my knowledge and another one come to try to, start everything again.
What we need to know is for what purpose we are doing what we are doing. if this is for money, you are correct in protect your work and be sad and even do more things to protect this. but if it is for FUN? get something " RE ENGINE" put to work better.. huuu... lets to do it better then, everyone.. OPEN...
**** who get this use and not mention who made staling the work or even putting at EBAY ( already find it at ebay) . GOOD JOB FOR this person.. hope
the best friend of him do the same with the her wife .
My intent writhing this things is not to FLAME anything, but share a VIEW POINT. other persons do it to.. and maybe the GOODNESS from TOOLS AND PORTS look we are here to, the small ones.., that like to try play and have funn to..( the fun is not just write the rom to device, but play with the rom) and maybe one day EVEN BECOME A A GOD and start to contribute with REAL Things to community.
Another thing. Already is working to close this way the roms?
Because from a time to now after close the roms and turn everything more hard to be OFFICIAL RELEASED HERE. seems chinese/RUSSIANS/BRAZILIANS sites started to spread more fast PSEUDO PORTS and "STOLE" the works more fast. Because become in hands of so little. And worst persopn taht everyone go to search in another place, like a do..
now closing same the WRITHED knowlled by restricting by language in a WAY THE BAD GUYS FROM XDA stolen something.
Dont know about this new version yours but is freely know that already have roms with this versions from whre BAD OR GOOD PORTED JUSTT REBRANDED. but they are there. and closing your rom or not. They will release a rom and not speak from where come.
Look iam not chilling here about TOOLS, codes, and this things. But at last sources from WHERE get this? or hoo, this work fine.. can you speak how you do it? iam not asking to give everything from your work. but informations.. BASE to another one to start to from where you are or at last to HAVE THE SAME CONCLUSION you have.
I respect a lot darkforceteam work.., pdaviet and others, guys like , buzz, toff, Beepe, dtroy, laurentius, erviu, beast, luca and many many others ( the only come now in my mind, iam not excluding no one).. what they do was amazing..
BIG HUHAAAAAAAA EVERYONE FOR THIS GUYSSSSS
but now to havA NEW NAME in OLIMPUS, the poor person will need to start everything again.. and then some day to be at the same level, this ones are today.
AND THIS IS SAD
wish if i have HOW ( i mean time and money) to create a kind of REPOSITORY for what we discover here ( since we cant store the microsoft files from roms, for law force).
A place where my discover, or my idea, or my tool CAN BE THE START for a FUN of other persons not the GOAL for this person.
Again mwang the same way you become SAD when bad things happens with the roms from your work. i become SAD with what happens. different side from the PROBLEM with different view point.
And i write this not to FLAME but to EXPOSE my FEELING the same way you cript your roms to expose your.
Its good to talk about this. not a bad thing.. IDEAS ARE NEVER BAD, THEY BECOME BAD JUST WHEN IMPOSED and more we talk about more good things can happens. ( or a WORD WAR OF COURSE, kidding )
so!!
IT IS..
BIG HUHAA FOR YU TO
F_R_I_T_Z said:
mwang
I already know your viewpoint and from other persons about this to.
I already have work stolen and even fired after this and the company used my work with another name( under justice now )..
But its the risk of all this.
Again.. imaginate if Linus Tovalds stop the kernel just because companies use some code inside a program or already the entire KERNEL and receive BIG MONEY for that. ( iam speaking REALLY BIG MONEY and this really happens all time).
The spirit of SHARE sometimes need to be little more than that.
when i start something i think. Humm, iam doing this for money, for personal use, to hobby or for GLORY?
If iam doing something for money. and someone use my work. Its matter of justice. I NEED RECEIVE FOR THIS...
If iam doing this for fun, hoby.. damn.. the time i spend trying to understand something or do work was the cool point of all, someone used this and never speak about me? so.. problem of this person. I know the risk of do something and turn public. who know what i do, is enough to do BETTER what was better ( the CHALLENGE by itself).
If iam doing this for personal use ( to prof myself iam GOOD A LOT), i even mentioned this to someone.
If iam doing something for GLORY THEN, of course i want everyone speak my name... but is not usual in my formation. Because this i become sad..
And same you can look about this here at xda forum.
from a time to now. besides some devices still very active.. others are failing down ( not because are old), but because the refuse of what EXIST and was shared sometime not be around any more. BECOME HARD.
Of course i can search and learn like who discover first time..
but reinvent the reinvented wheel. its loose time. Its put a happiness in develop something UTILE, in the sadness of doing something standard. so i close my knowledge and another one come to try to, start everything again.
What we need to know is for what purpose we are doing what we are doing. if this is for money, you are correct in protect your work and be sad and even do more things to protect this. but if it is for FUN? get something " RE ENGINE" put to work better.. huuu... lets to do it better then, everyone.. OPEN...
**** who get this use and not mention who made staling the work or even putting at EBAY ( already find it at ebay) . GOOD JOB FOR this person.. hope
the best friend of him do the same with the her wife .
My intent writhing this things is not to FLAME anything, but share a VIEW POINT. other persons do it to.. and maybe the GOODNESS from TOOLS AND PORTS look we are here to, the small ones.., that like to try play and have funn to..( the fun is not just write the rom to device, but play with the rom) and maybe one day EVEN BECOME A A GOD and start to contribute with REAL Things to community.
Another thing. Already is working to close this way the roms?
Because from a time to now after close the roms and turn everything more hard to be OFFICIAL RELEASED HERE. seems chinese/RUSSIANS/BRAZILIANS sites started to spread more fast PSEUDO PORTS and "STOLE" the works more fast. Because become in hands of so little. And worst persopn taht everyone go to search in another place, like a do..
now closing same the WRITHED knowlled by restricting by language in a WAY THE BAD GUYS FROM XDA stolen something.
Dont know about this new version yours but is freely know that already have roms with this versions from whre BAD OR GOOD PORTED JUSTT REBRANDED. but they are there. and closing your rom or not. They will release a rom and not speak from where come.
Look iam not chilling here about TOOLS, codes, and this things. But at last sources from WHERE get this? or hoo, this work fine.. can you speak how you do it? iam not asking to give everything from your work. but informations.. BASE to another one to start to from where you are or at last to HAVE THE SAME CONCLUSION you have.
I respect a lot darkforceteam work.., pdaviet and others, guys like , buzz, toff, Beepe, dtroy, laurentius, erviu, beast, luca and many many others ( the only come now in my mind, iam not excluding no one).. what they do was amazing..
BIG HUHAAAAAAAA EVERYONE FOR THIS GUYSSSSS
but now to havA NEW NAME in OLIMPUS, the poor person will need to start everything again.. and then some day to be at the same level, this ones are today.
AND THIS IS SAD
wish if i have HOW ( i mean time and money) to create a kind of REPOSITORY for what we discover here ( since we cant store the microsoft files from roms, for law force).
A place where my discover, or my idea, or my tool CAN BE THE START for a FUN of other persons not the GOAL for this person.
Again mwang the same way you become SAD when bad things happens with the roms from your work. i become SAD with what happens. different side from the PROBLEM with different view point.
And i write this not to FLAME but to EXPOSE my FEELING the same way you cript your roms to expose your.
Its good to talk about this. not a bad thing.. IDEAS ARE NEVER BAD, THEY BECOME BAD JUST WHEN IMPOSED and more we talk about more good things can happens. ( or a WORD WAR OF COURSE, kidding )
so!!
IT IS..
BIG HUHAA FOR YU TO
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nice post start like you as I said before we will release WWE version next week , BTW we play rom for fun not for money , even our forum not ask for donation and no AD in there, we knew its risk to post new build rom maybe one day we all been ask close it by "BIG GUY" and knew some "BIG GUY" was watch us .
hey guys,
this is really how things in this world are.
You do something for the people and other people will sometimes not even thank you, eventually they will steal your hard work and brand it under their name.
We have to live with that. That's how it works.
I know very good, how much time mwang and team invested into these ROMs. And it's not that easy to port the whole **** for old device like UNI is.
So as you said above FRITZ, before one even starts to do something, he must be clear about "why i am doing this?" question.
Anyway, the true ROMs for UNI are delivered by DarkForcesTeam. Everything else is recooked stuff.
All cookers should however mention, where they get the original from (as we used to do back in the good times) and give credits to original.
That will make everyone happy.
take care
buzz
WAW buzz_lightyear in my post. ( PLEASE BUZZ NEVE EVER CLOSE YR SITE OR WE UNIVERSAL USERS BECOME ORPHANS, its like loose DAD AND MUM AT SAME TIME
BIG HUHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DOUBLED YOU
BIG HUHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This become serious..
Was not my intent FLAME NOTHING.
By the way...
What buzz write about everyone come back old days, will not happens. more easy apple leave the source CODE OR IPHONE ( more than microsoft from windows). GOOGLE ALREADY SPEAK EVERYONE ANDROID IS NOTOPEN SOURCE AND FREE, BUT THE ANDROID KERNEL IT IS (SO JUST KERNEL not so much by the way). AND ME WIN LOTTERY AND BECOME RICH MOUNTING A BIG MEGA REPOSITORY FOR OUR KNOWLED AND CONTRACT MANY MANY LAWYERS TO PROTECT US FROM BIG BROTHERS..
AGAIN ABOUT STOLEN WORK..
WELL, why not in place cript something.. BRAND SOMETHING? PUT WAHTERMARKS.
starting by the screens, lather HEX names in codes and go on?
Soo, to get rid of this the STOLEN GUY will need to learn what you do very well. and at this point will start contribute to. more one looking a CODE mean LESS ERROR IN A CODE and MORE IDEAS COMMING. and even YU STOLEN IDEAS FROM THIS PERSONS.
When you port this crazy roms for US from, more crazy sources ( maybe a direct link with GOD?) .. PUT WHATERMARK IN EVERYTHING possible..
and let us poor guys ( this poor was for good now not bad).. get ride of this.. do WE HAVE WORK TO. STOLE TO STOLE, LET THIS be more hard for who do it, and put fun for who want to learn..and get rgus, modules and everything to play around.
and if someone start sell the rom at EBAY or post in sites without source , post a BIG **** gif in this place and con claim all GOOD GUYS KNOW ABOUT HARD WORK do it to.. ( in ebay case, just send to micro****.. and HTChit) they do the hard work, better WE DO.. ALREADY HAPPENS A CASE AT Brazilian EBAY, the guy was ****ed by microsoft and what i read from judical papers, micro**** even touch xda site name besides guy speak a lot about the site). MICRO**** in ow way like us..
Well.
I it is.. ( FOR NOW
AGAIN
BIGG HUHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BUZZZZ
HUHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I would love to see someone with the new T-Mobile Garminfone pull out the apk and see if we can use it in our Incredibles. I would just love to see how it would work on a real powerhouse of a phone ;-)
+11111111111111111111111
+1
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Hmmm, bad idea -1
madman34 said:
I would love to see someone with the new T-Mobile Garminfone pull out the apk and see if we can use it in our Incredibles. I would just love to see how it would work on a real powerhouse of a phone ;-)
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Watch out! I did a google search and I found another thread on xda...
http: //forum.xda-developers.com/showpost . php?p=7636980&postcount=5
here is the excerpt
NotATreoFan said:
This post shall serve as the first and only warning regarding the Garmin application and maps. Anybody who shares them or asks for them to be shared will be banned.
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I guess this is bad behavior.
New user so I can link
[email protected] said:
Watch out! I did a google search and I found another thread on xda...
http: //forum.xda-developers.com/showpost . php?p=7636980&postcount=5
here is the excerpt
I guess this is bad behavior.
New user so I can link
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Thanks for sharing =)
So anything you rip off another phone is illegal, how come we do it with alot of stuff on here... then again what do i care /ripriprip
The problem with this is that it's the map data mostly. When I was on Windows Mobile, we had the same problem with Microsoft Voice Command. Even though it came with most WM phones, you weren't aloud to share the .cab (equivalent to .apk) file for it. In fact, cooking roms with it was kinda frowned upon. The problem was the licensing, because Microsoft actually charged for the app, for the few phones that came without it (the manufacturer had the option to use it, I'm guessing they decided to just pay for it to have it come loaded). Even when TomTom came out with a "trial" for one specific WM phone, the cracked program wasn't allowed on XDA, even though cracking it just made it possible to use it on other phones...... You still had to buy the maps from TomTom for the phone..... It's all just a CYOA policy, and it's what makes sure XDA won't be shut down!
So I guess the question is: if I am able to find the.apk, would it work on my inc. Has there been any success stories?
It would certainly be interesting to find out. I remember someone in the past had made a GPS Phone based off Windows Mobile. I can't remember who offhand, but I'd think it would be more profitable for them to release the software for a reasonable price than to offer it only on their phone, which who knows how much they're really making off it. I mean it comes down to profit, but I'd think that considering my DInc came with built in Nav for free, and is a much better phone, why pay a premium for a phone with GPS, when you can get a better *phone* and add GPS software for a minimal cost (or use the FREE one included!). Just my thoughts though.....