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TIGTMFMW-Vanilla V1.7 WM6

This Is Getting Too Much For My Wizard, Vanilla should be clean but still needed 7 tries to get it right Windows Mobile 6 version, which I never will publish.
This posting of ROM's, 3 Vanilla version ???????, with or without VOIP or voice command is getting a bit too much.
I tried to keep up and posted the new roms on the IW25NT folder in RP. but I won't be posting them anymore untill someone comes with something original...

Build your own if you don't like the current roms...
Cooks aren't here to build your rom the way you like it..they build it for them selfs and diside to release em..so quit complaining. Most don't realize how much it takes to build a rom even with a kitchen.

I think that he was saying that there are too many new vanilla's poping out ...

ANTC said:
Build your own if you don't like the current roms...
Cooks aren't here to build your rom the way you like it..they build it for them selfs and diside to release em..so quit complaining. Most don't realize how much it takes to build a rom even with a kitchen.
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ANTC.............
....I know
....No they didn't
....I'm not
....I do, and it is, but this is not cooking.........
Also ANTC, if this post was related to your ROM I would have posted it in your thread.

Vilem said:
ANTC.............
....I know
....No they didn't
....I'm not
....I do, and it is, but this is not cooking.........
Also ANTC, if this post was related to your ROM I would have posted it in your thread.
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I never even mentioned my rom..but the fact is your complaining about to many roms..
People are never happy..enither theres to many roms not enough..ect ect blah blah

ANTC said:
I never even mentioned my rom..but the fact is your complaining about to many roms..
People are never happy..enither theres to many roms not enough..ect ect blah blah
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Please stop trashing people who just voice their opinions. Vilem is doing a good job in keeping all the roms in the rapidshare folder. He NEVER said that he "Doesn't like" current roms and your reply begins with "Build your own if you don't like the current roms...". He is not even complaining ... he is just saying he would not upload these slew of vanilla roms to his rs folder.
It is always better to read before posting an abrasive reply.

ANTC said:
Build your own if you don't like the current roms...
Cooks aren't here to build your rom the way you like it..they build it for them selfs and diside to release em..so quit complaining. Most don't realize how much it takes to build a rom even with a kitchen.
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ANTC, you know me, i like you alot and ill help you out, but you gotta be careful on who you attack, even if you dont mean to. Vilem was the original host for Orwell, everyone here loves him and respects him. His RS folder has always been a place to get the latest release and it hurts my heart to see that he will no longer be hosting any and all. Both my releases have always been as close to vanilla as possible. Just including bug fixes along with camera and mms. Thats just my style.
Vilem, thanks for the hosting and trying to keep up with all us chefs. Hopefully matt and I will be able to make your job alot easier. If the kitchen does what I think it will, people will be building thier own OS. then we just gotta stay on top of the Kitchen lol.

nottoosmart said:
ANTC, you know me, i like you alot and ill help you out, but you gotta be careful on who you attack, even if you dont mean to. Vilem was the original host for Orwell, everyone here loves him and respects him. His RS folder has always been a place to get the latest release and it hurts my heart to see that he will no longer be hosting any and all. Both my releases have always been as close to vanilla as possible. Just including bug fixes along with camera and mms. Thats just my style.
Vilem, thanks for the hosting and trying to keep up with all us chefs. Hopefully matt and I will be able to make your job alot easier. If the kitchen does what I think it will, people will be building thier own OS. then we just gotta stay on top of the Kitchen lol.
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I got an FTP and RS account..if needed I'll host curtain roms there..

ANTC said:
I got an FTP and RS account..if needed I'll host curtain roms there..
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If that is what you would like to do

Maybe I was a little harsch yesterday, but I normally try all ROM. The latest ones are really nothing new. (Maybe a good name for the next one "The Nothing New Edition:.
OK now I will mention his name, look at ANTC thread, a ROM lacking MMS......
This is like starting over with Orwell..
Developing means improving like:
Battery life.
Menu response
memory usage
Radio
WiFi turn off/on
Improvements for people who use this thing daily, for work for instance. If I wanted a gadget, I would have bought a PSP.

Vilem said:
The latest ones are really nothing new. (Maybe a good name for the next one "The Nothing New Edition:.
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That was funny lmao
But, i suggest an aspirin or an advil, because this is nothing compared to what's coming

Vilems RS is in my bookmarks
and I for one will miss it if he decides to stop maintaining it.

nottoosmart said:
If that is what you would like to do
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I am, Uploading around 600mbs of roms to my FTP..
also if someone can link me to a bunch of Radio roms and IPLs ill host em too im to busy to search between remaking my rom flashing and hosting

peep the sig guys..

which ROM KITCHEN do you use/like ?

which ROM KITCHEN do you use/like ? post ur reviews/feedback here.

I like Pandora's, seems complete and the ROM is fast. Even without overclocking

I was using Pandoras so I could have the latest and greates WM6 ROM however it proved to be too unstable and most importantly: I couldn't make A2DP work. Anyway I switched back to the previous WM6 .960 and grabbed Core 2.0, chucked it into the Core Pro kitchen and found it to be awesome - the programs just do it - no problems and even less clicks than the other kitchens! Plus it can extract any ROM you like into packages which is the biggest bonus.

I've used Faria's RK, edhaas' RomPacker, and now the Core RK. Overall, I like the Core one the best due to what all it can do. My only complaint with it is that all the scripts assume everything is on your system drive and in the directory Core. I'm going to have to rework all the scripts so it isn't like this, as I will sometimes have multiple kitchens setup as I test various things (and to keep old versions where I can fall back to them but still be in a working kitchen). This isn't an issue with the RomPacker kitchen.

mfrazzz said:
I've used Faria's RK, edhaas' RomPacker, and now the Core RK. Overall, I like the Core one the best due to what all it can do. My only complaint with it is that all the scripts assume everything is on your system drive and in the directory Core. I'm going to have to rework all the scripts so it isn't like this, as I will sometimes have multiple kitchens setup as I test various things (and to keep old versions where I can fall back to them but still be in a working kitchen). This isn't an issue with the RomPacker kitchen.
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I agree with you on this but one thing it did remind me of is that its very good about backing up previous files cooked in the kitchen in the Core kitchen.

nottoosmart said:
I like Pandora's, seems complete and the ROM is fast. Even without overclocking
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ROTFL

anichillus said:
ROTFL
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But surely that's the kitchen you use to produce your ROMs?

neonkoala said:
But surely that's the kitchen you use to produce your ROMs?
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Whaaaat ?

Joking as you have your own kitchen....

I have a tough time choosing between CorePro and Pandora's, simply because I like the option, of being able to check and uncheck the boxes!! LOL. But the corePro kitchen is very advanced, it shaved ~13mbs off of the ROM I cooked in Pandoras.

Hi
I'm probably one of the few who prefers to use Molski's Devpack kitchen. only reason i use it is quite simply because it was the first kitchen i used! that and it was relatively easy to learn (i only really use it to add/remove programs and stuff, nothing exotic). the best bit of it is you just lob the 'nk.nbf' into the source folder, dump and its ready for you. i dont know if the different kitchens like pandora give you this option.

neonkoala said:
Joking as you have your own kitchen....
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Ah...sorry
Yes, that's the kitchen i used, mostly. But i had to repack it so that others can use it...since i had it all spread allover across my HDD ...
I think i forgot to thank 004 cos his kitchen meant the begining of my kitchen.
So : Thank you double_ofour !
duke_stix said:
Hi
I'm probably one of the few who prefers to use Molski's Devpack kitchen. only reason i use it is quite simply because it was the first kitchen i used! that and it was relatively easy to learn (i only really use it to add/remove programs and stuff, nothing exotic). the best bit of it is you just lob the 'nk.nbf' into the source folder, dump and its ready for you. i dont know if the different kitchens like pandora give you this option.
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Mine does !
It is a combination of molski's way of cooking combined with the new stuff that's out there.
I kept both ways of cooking.
badbert said:
I have a tough time choosing between CorePro and Pandora's, simply because I like the option, of being able to check and uncheck the boxes!! LOL. But the corePro kitchen is very advanced, it shaved ~13mbs off of the ROM I cooked in Pandoras.
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You can do that in my kitchen too LOL . I thought i saw a option.xml generator somewhere .... Hmm, dunno where tho ...mabe the Hermes forum

I started to think this thread was heading towards a "popularity contest" like the "best chef" thread...
I'd like to think everyone's goal in this forum is to offer support to other developers and users, and to improve the overall user-experience.
I personally don't care if anyone uses the kitchen I primarily support - which is based on doubleofours adaption of the new mUn rom.
However, if you do want use it, I'll do what I can to help make it work as best as I can. Because in the end, if we all work to fix all the issues, we all end up with an excellent rom - and just the way we each individually want it. Which kitchen isn't the base factor, it's working together as a team.
My goal is to help other users, not to win a contest of "who's the best" or whatever. I build a rom as I would want it, let others try it, and update the kitchen as issues are found. Is it the best way? Who cares? As a group working to debug issues, everyone can benefit.
Maybe someone should start a poll for who's the most supportive in the forum? At least that would reward others by recoginition for support, rather than how many users they can convince to use their stuff. There's no monitary reward here - let's not treat it that way.
So who's is best? I have a "philosophy" on that and it's debate:
Opinions are like a "rectum" (don't like to use profanity in public...).
One individual's may stink/smell nice more than others, but that's only up to the other individuals who smell it.
We're all human, and entitled to opinion. Sometimes its just better to keep it to ourselves.
How about we kill the poll's and get back to developing!

I have experimented with every kitchen thats been released so far. I still like the old school methods of rom cooking though.

mattk_r said:
I started to think this thread was heading towards a "popularity contest" like the "best chef" thread...
I'd like to think everyone's goal in this forum is to offer support to other developers and users, and to improve the overall user-experience.
I personally don't care if anyone uses the kitchen I primarily support - which is based on doubleofours adaption of the new mUn rom.
However, if you do want use it, I'll do what I can to help make it work as best as I can. Because in the end, if we all work to fix all the issues, we all end up with an excellent rom - and just the way we each individually want it. Which kitchen isn't the base factor, it's working together as a team.
My goal is to help other users, not to win a contest of "who's the best" or whatever. I build a rom as I would want it, let others try it, and update the kitchen as issues are found. Is it the best way? Who cares? As a group working to debug issues, everyone can benefit.
Maybe someone should start a poll for who's the most supportive in the forum? At least that would reward others by recoginition for support, rather than how many users they can convince to use their stuff. There's no monitary reward here - let's not treat it that way.
So who's is best? I have a "philosophy" on that and it's debate:
Opinions are like a "rectum" (don't like to use profanity in public...).
One individual's may stink/smell nice more than others, but that's only up to the other individuals who smell it.
We're all human, and entitled to opinion. Sometimes its just better to keep it to ourselves.
How about we kill the poll's and get back to developing!
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I agree with you, that's why i decided to have some fun. I however think some of your message was addressed to me. I don't want to win an popularity contest and i think the number of posts and if you read them all you'll see that i always tryed to help others...even when the question was asked 100000 times before.
I started to hate polls...just because the fact that i know how much i worked on every release that i made, and how big support i gave every time and i don't say that others didn't do it, cos i am sure that they did ...but i don't like to get my hard work in any stupid contest.
All messages written above by me had a bitter sweet sarcasm in them.
You can't imagine how i feel untill you do it yourselves. It is really degrading to see that after over 3000 downloads with previous roms and another 500 with this kitchen(for the wizard only) i released...which i surely consider the only FULL kitchen there is out there except Scoter Kitchen , people making my hard work into some stupid contest.
I did it for all not for just a few, and i didn't made any test on who's the best one to have my rom.
You're right, this is democracy but it's wrongfully understood. Why ? Because i asked soooo many time for suggestions with my every release and i took notice of them all but people still not satisfyed. I asked : what do you think it's missing from my kitchen ...no responses...what should i think ? That is perfect the way it is or that people just don't care and only start stupid threads so they can use the "best" rom , the "best" kitchen..and so on.
Mabe it's just me...but i don't want to spend so many hours in front of my pc so that some people trash my work as they think.
I am so fed up with this that you can't even imagine.
just my 2 cents and i forbid using my kitchen, roms or even my nickname in any stupid contest!

Well said my friend. May the polls be dammed!
Edit: Oh, forgot to mention that no direct negativity intended - more so at the whole idea of "who's got the best ...". I can see where it could look that way - my apologies. Venting after long weekend of sleeping in till 11, drinking till 3, kicking back by the ocean... and thinking of what I could be doing if I only had my computer...

MyOS
nottoosmart said:
I like Pandora's, seems complete and the ROM is fast. Even without overclocking
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Is Pandora's what you used to build your "MyOS" with?

MaciejN said:
Is Pandora's what you used to build your "MyOS" with?
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Correct, but the contents are from all over the Wizard forum.

Why all these new WM6 ROMs?

I am a bit surprised that so many new WM6 ROMs are appearing on this board. The majority just appear to have been created using the Pandora kitchen.
The Pandora kitchen is so incredibly easy to use so why not just create your own ROM. We all have different requirements so no downloaded ROM is likely to suit anyone other than its originator.
The current Pandora kitchen is IMHO close to perfect. Cook your own it really is easy.
Provided you only flash the OS and nothing else you are no more likely to "brick" your Wizard than if you flash one of the preprepared ROMs - perhaps even less likely.

Dude, not all ppl have the patience, the knowledge (to edit files, edit/delete hex strings), and probably neither the courage to flash their own device for uncountable times in order to make something that will suit their needs.
I am not trying to tell you that I've got balls and super-knowledge to do that and someone else doesn't. The Pandora's Box is awesome, so is the Core Pro Kitchen also. But If it was THAT easy, MS would have also released a kitchen for every user to cook their ROM.

Im afraid I must agree with scotch whisky.
It reminds me of all these "WINXP UTILITIES AIO 2007 XP GOLD" packages that you often see.
I moderate a few boards and I do remove such things, Its not to say that what is being produced here isnt worthy of recognition, but I think it is certainly an idea to thin it a little.
For example lock the topic as soon as it is created and then have simply 1 well moderated thread for bug reports.
(And for gods sake can someone please shoot the noobs that feel they must post useless cr*p in every thread i.e "plzz sum1 [email protected] WM6 4 my PSP!!! PLZZZ!!!)
Just my 2ct...

Whiterat said:
Im afraid I must agree with scotch whisky.
(And for gods sake can someone please shoot the noobs that feel they must post useless cr*p in every thread i.e "plzz sum1 [email protected] WM6 4 my PSP!!! PLZZZ!!!)
Just my 2ct...
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i like idea of wm06 for PSP ( screen calibration specifically ).
rofl.

Yep, I sort of agree... I'm about to work on the next release of XM6, but it basically is just going to be from the excellent Pandora Kitchen and packages, so was starting to question even releasing it (I may do some customizations to things, but really not sure). There are so many slight variations with minimal "custom" changes (other than splash screens) that pretty much any of these can be built by about anyone with minimal work (or thats the way it appears).
Faria and Doubleofour opened the cooking floodgates with their easy to use Kitchens. The Core and Pandora kitchens have just increased the proliferation.
mattk_r's work on providing a "Complete" solution (kitchen, excellent base rom, and tons of oem packages, and even cleaning up MMS and all and giving multiple versions) makes Cooking like a Instant Dinner. Just add the premade ingredients that you want, mix, and bake... Presto, your "perfect" rom just for you...

mfrazzz said:
...so was starting to question even releasing it...
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While the shear quantity of ROM's is, perhaps, unneeded, I for one sure hope you release the next version of XM6! Part of the internet community's ideals is reuse. I surely appreciate mfrazzz's (and the others' he built on!) ROMs.

mfrazzz said:
Yep, I sort of agree... I'm about to work on the next release of XM6, but it basically is just going to be from the excellent Pandora Kitchen and packages
mattk_r's work on providing a "Complete" solution (kitchen, excellent base rom, and tons of oem packages, and even cleaning up MMS and all and giving multiple versions) makes Cooking like a Instant Dinner. Just add the premade ingredients that you want, mix, and bake... Presto, your "perfect" rom just for you...
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Couple of things. First, MFrazz, your Crossbow Reloaded ROM is fricken awesome. What was the reason to change from Faria to Pandora? I'm not asking sarcastically...since I am new to all this I am really curious and I'm wondering if I should drop your previously made Crossbow to go with XM6 (or XM6-Reloaded or whatever you plan to call your next version).
Also, where can I get Mattk_r's "complete" solution with the base ROM and all the OEM packages? I would love to see what I'm capable of doing if I had all the right tools and packages available. I have a little bit of creative talent inside me. Yeah, I guess I could just ask Matt...or he could respond...so whoever knows the answer, that would be cool. Matt posts too much (and is a huge help!) to just do a search on his name.
Thanks!!

I once tried every new rom. But then i stopped flashing - because every rom only have minor changes and some have programs instlled i never use.
I think it was hard work for the first released WM6 ported by faria and mun - which were made very clean by e.g. anichillus (and many more....)
But now - afetr this great kitchens were released - cooking is very simple. So it is not really nessecary to release every new liitle step of a rom.
I stop for it - and started USING my device.
BTW - i have a herald now. But still read some of the wizard forum stuff - but it is getting more and more a "fight" - who got the NEWEST files and the BEST looking - it´s more a pimp contest then a developers forum.
Like other say: Just my 2 cent
lol

Interesting views and opinions. A while back when I first joined the forum, I tested a few roms (Xplore 1.0/1.1, MBE and Love) and quickly jumped onto Faria's/Scooters/Doubleofours kitchens to figure out how to build my own. It became apparent that it needed some "simplicity" and consolidation.
I still like the idea of roms being build and developed by cooks. This way the non-technical users can try them out and give honest feedback, without having to go through the kitchen learning curve. It's hard enough just to keep from bricking your hardware for the newbie.
User feedback can help drive improvements to the base packages and ultamately back to the kitchen - and other builders will benefit as well.
The kitchen I post is a collection of everyone elses work. I simply try to keep it updated with the great improvements that collect amongst all the different threads. I don't take / want credit for what's there - I didn't make it - I just try to make it easier

Ya i would say that there is way to many rom going around that just as too much the same!! I have my own base and i just run off that!!! No need to chnage and chnage from one to another!! I was going to release mine but then i thought that i would not be able to put up with poeple moaning so i have not! It is built how i likw it and that is that!

So Matt, I was looking at the thread in your signature link listed as "kitchen thread" and it looks like it doesn't work for T-mobile, is that correct? (T-mobile is always listed as "coming soon")
So for a guy like me...T-mobile user...heavy interest in business use and e-mail use (so Office and messenging are required...other toys are just fun fluff) what is the best kitchen to use for making my own ROM?
Or do you think of novice newbie like me should just stick with other people's ROMs? (Be honest...if its too hard to do...I'll screw up my phone in a heartbeat)

This is a simple question to answer.
Some people don't have the time to learn to cook a rom, such as me. I just like flashing couple times here and there specific roms that match my preference. Rom cookers are nice to share their stuff with the community and this helps fix current bugs and everyone learns something new with the bugs. I don't mind the experimenting.
You got all the random people complaining about how this rom needs this app or this rom should remove this. With different roms shared, one of the roms should be close to what they need.
Right now, the pandora 3.2 VC version is fitting my needs and experimenting with the different roms, this is the one I like the most.

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So Matt, I was looking at the thread in your signature link listed as "kitchen thread" and it looks like it doesn't work for T-mobile, is that correct? (T-mobile is always listed as "coming soon")
So for a guy like me...T-mobile user...heavy interest in business use and e-mail use (so Office and messenging are required...other toys are just fun fluff) what is the best kitchen to use for making my own ROM?
Or do you think of novice newbie like me should just stick with other people's ROMs? (Be honest...if its too hard to do...I'll screw up my phone in a heartbeat)
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I would say to you, ya go for it make your own rom how you like it!!! There is so much help on here that you will always be able to do it!!!
Try faria's kitchen
Packages
8 Button Commanger
I have different packages aswell that i have not shared on here so if you need something let me know!

ExploreMN said:
So Matt, I was looking at the thread in your signature link listed as "kitchen thread" and it looks like it doesn't work for T-mobile, is that correct? (T-mobile is always listed as "coming soon")
So for a guy like me...T-mobile user...heavy interest in business use and e-mail use (so Office and messenging are required...other toys are just fun fluff) what is the best kitchen to use for making my own ROM?
Or do you think of novice newbie like me should just stick with other people's ROMs? (Be honest...if its too hard to do...I'll screw up my phone in a heartbeat)
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the tmobile reference is only for the extended rom. you would have the same result if you cooked your rom and ran the cabs afterwards. I'm adding the tmo ext roms just for those cookers that would like to "automate" the installation of said cabs, but aren't ready to make their own - it's easy but one more learning curve to hurtle.
For example, I cook my combo, click the "enable extended rom" box, and build the rom. Since my extended rom has already been flashed, I don't have to add it every time to the nb2nbf_wizard. When the phone flashes, it goes to the extended rom and runs my WAP cabs. Saves me a couple extra steps, since I flash so damn much.

scotch, Ive been saying the same thing since The kitchens appeared. The real releases should be only Build number changes. Unless the builds change, why cant people just use the kitchen, put in what they want and call it a day

ExploreMN said:
Couple of things. First, MFrazz, your Crossbow Reloaded ROM is fricken awesome. What was the reason to change from Faria to Pandora? I'm not asking sarcastically...since I am new to all this I am really curious and I'm wondering if I should drop your previously made Crossbow to go with XM6 (or XM6-Reloaded or whatever you plan to call your next version).
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Yes, Crossbow Reloaded was based off of the Faria "the real thing" ROM kitchen. I only moved away from that base for XM6 because the Ingenetics rom came out which is a newer base (but didn't have some of the newest updates since it was built when that rom first was released). Personally, the Ingenetics rom seems more stable, quicker, and easier on battery, so I felt it was the next best direction to go (but since the base was different, I renamed it so it wouldn't confuse people as it is different than the Crossbow Reloaded series). If I get time, I may go back and revisit Crossbow Reloaded again (as I liked those roms too). Maybe look at melding the two back together (but they are pretty close already other than the base, and I see the Pandora / Ingenetics rom kitchen helping me do that, thus the direction the next release of XM6.

theres so many new roms because cooking is popular now...People never like the roms that are out so they think they could make a better one they way they like it..so they do..I've done the same thing not to many roms fit my needs..i need something clean but with everything still so i created my own rom and I'm Very happy with it right now so I released I must of made atleast 100 different roms before the release..so if someone sees your rom and it meets there needs thats good for having so many roms..

WizeMan said:
Dude, not all ppl have the patience, the knowledge (to edit files, edit/delete hex strings), and probably neither the courage to flash their own device for uncountable times in order to make something that will suit their needs.
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I think this says it all. With the Pandora kitchen you don't edit files or edit/delete hex strings.
You just select what you need and press the button. It takes no more than 10 minutes to cook a ROM including flashing.
You need close to zero knowledge of computing to do it.

I actually want to cook my own rom but maybe I made it harder than it needs to be. For one thing, are all of the packages available in a thread or do the cookers go hunting for packages? As an example, all the programs I want are included in Crossbow Reloaded, but I don't want all of them (and maybe I want to add a couple more but that's not as important). Now, are all of these packages readily available to add to the ROM?
I was also unclear on why sometimes ROM cookers talked about compressing some components. Like, I remember mfrazz would say that he was removing compression on a couple of htings when the dialpad started disappearing on ROMS.

abasu2003 said:
I actually want to cook my own rom but maybe I made it harder than it needs to be. For one thing, are all of the packages available in a thread or do the cookers go hunting for packages? As an example, all the programs I want are included in Crossbow Reloaded, but I don't want all of them (and maybe I want to add a couple more but that's not as important). Now, are all of these packages readily available to add to the ROM?
I was also unclear on why sometimes ROM cookers talked about compressing some components. Like, I remember mfrazz would say that he was removing compression on a couple of htings when the dialpad started disappearing on ROMS.
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I think what is needed here is for someone (Matt!) to write a simple user guide to using the Pandora kitchen. It is obvious from this thread that many people believe that using the kitchen is far more complicated than it actually is.
Matt and others are the experts here. They have made the kitchen incredibly easy to use but do not appear to have got this fact over to a minority (or is that majority) of users.
A simple user guide avoiding all technical terms is required. Anyone who can flash one of the pre-prepared ROMs has more than enough knowledge to use the kitchen.
Matt- It I didn't say before -Great Kitchen

Too much info?

I admit it! Im overwhelmed with all the information on this site. I would really appreciate the technical expertice of this helpful community. So far Ive installed HardSPL and im downloading roms from alex, faria, and thinkin about dutty's roms. Im researching on which radio version is the best for me and so far it looks like 1.47.30.10 from DR Puttingham's experience. Im also starting to understand that the best way is really to cook up your own rom but id rather start with a lite or clean version with great looks, speed, functionablitly. Im curious as to why I only see a few people cooking up roms when i know there are better chef's out there like...molski? again...what do i know..im just a noob.
so here i am asking the vast community their opinions of best of...
best chef? (not just for quantity but for quality)
best lite/clean rom?
best full rom?
most useful radio along with your location?
top useful programs?

cyberage29 said:
best chef? (not just for quantity but for quality)
best lite/clean rom?
best full rom?
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You know you're never going to get a proper answer to these as everyone has their own preference not mention they aren't gonna say one is better than the other... Why not just try them all and see what you like?
And I think most people don't cook their own ROMs cause:
1) They don't want to learn how to, or
2) They don't have the time, or
3) Somebody else is already doing the hard work (and doing it well..), so why bother?
Personally, I think I'm a combination of the 2nd and 3rd, which therefore makes #1 redundant (for me)..

if i were u i'd go to my closet and put my flamesuit on ....or hope that we're all in a good mood

bapssystupr3m3 said:
if i were u i'd go to my closet and put my flamesuit on ....or hope that we're all in a good mood
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I concur... I think somebody better close this thread before it becomes a BBQ here!!
Thank god its a weekend & only retards like us are here...

suntzu said:
I concur... I think somebody better close this thread before it becomes a BBQ here!!
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yay! bbq party FTW

okay ... first of all you should really think about what you post before you post.
You can't compare the chefs because each one invests there precious time into our community here (WITHOUT COMPENSATION) and does the hardwork for us of making a rom that is better than the piece of **** our carrier shipped us. So in my eyes they are all the greatest and bestest. Choosing a radio is a trial experience you have to find the one you like that best suites your location.
And if you don't like what other chefs are doing get the dumped rom for your carrier and work on it your self.
this by the way is the nicest reply you'll probably get (not unless someone just won the lotto or got laid or is stoned .. .in which case they won't be able to reply ...)
peace,
sire

thesire said:
this by the way is the nicest reply you'll probably get (not unless someone just won the lotto or got laid or is stoned .. .in which case they won't be able to reply ...)
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And there it is... ROTFL!!

sorry
Ill take a rib!
sorry guys. im just trying to make sense of what to use. im basically trying to get some shot outs to some of your personal fave roms. id like a relatively clean version with some great apps and games. ill use spb mobile shell once im done.
can i always change my radio the way i do with the roms?

cyberage29 said:
I admit it! Im overwhelmed with all the information on this site. I would really appreciate the technical expertice of this helpful community. So far Ive installed HardSPL and im downloading roms from alex, faria, and thinkin about dutty's roms. Im researching on which radio version is the best for me and so far it looks like 1.47.30.10 from DR Puttingham's experience. Im also starting to understand that the best way is really to cook up your own rom but id rather start with a lite or clean version with great looks, speed, functionablitly. Im curious as to why I only see a few people cooking up roms when i know there are better chef's out there like...molski? again...what do i know..im just a noob.
so here i am asking the vast community their opinions of best of...
best chef? (not just for quantity but for quality)
best lite/clean rom?
best full rom?
most useful radio along with your location?
top useful programs?
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You are not the first, and wont be the last to ask these kind of questions "Best,top,most"
Here are 3 outcomes:
OMG WTF BBQ stupid question
MY IS TEH LEETEST ( ego boost )
There is no best, only what you think is best.
but most of people have their brains working will either go 1 or 3. So, put on your flame suit and start flashing.

cyberage29 said:
Ill take a rib!
can i always change my radio the way i do with the roms?
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as long as its compatible w/ rom ur using; wm6 rom requires a wm6 radio and wm6.1 rom requires wmk6.1 radio. having said plz read the kaiser wiki and the stickies. trust me all u ask is there.

cyberage29 said:
Ill take a rib!
sorry guys. im just trying to make sense of what to use. im basically trying to get some shot outs to some of your personal fave roms. id like a relatively clean version with some great apps and games. ill use spb mobile shell once im done.
can i always change my radio the way i do with the roms?
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Yes . and no .
99% radio out there are safe and you can freely switch around.
But, there is 1 radio ( kinda newest ) will keep you stuck. I dont wanna tell you cuz I want you to find out. More fun.
Please go read. This is the most simple thing that you shouldve known. Q

Thanx! U guyz r gr8

how come no one noticed.......the radio he mentioned and dr puttingham's rom......are both for the hermes, not the kaiser

XtreMe_G said:
how come no one noticed.......the radio he mentioned and dr puttingham's rom......are both for the hermes, not the kaiser
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Oh **** , LOL , didnt notice
You da man , I award you with the title "XDA chief detective "

I Want CLEAR WM6.1 ROM

Hello everybody. i'm sick of all theese ROM's with a lot of programs. I want CLEAR WM6.1 ROM.
Please give me some link for G4 phone.
Thanks.

Try SEARCH

I don't want what phrase to write as search string ?

You have lots of ROMS in this forum, and you want that somebody does a quite simple thing for you
Read
Quite easy.........

the cleanest rom you can have is the one you cook for your self... but then again, you may as well just use wm5 ass just about all of the new features that distinguish 6 and 6.1 are cooked into the oem. camera and mms is also an addon.
maybe you would have better luck if you actualy listed the features you wanted instead of the ones you didnt.
or better yet, learn to cook one, then you would understand how it works, and wouldnt ask for something like that.
all of the cooks on this forum try to cook the best rom. and the fact that you insult their cooking doesnt help. You dont go into a restaraunt asking for a raw piece of meat on a plate and then eat it; do you?!

S.V.I said:
the cleanest rom you can have is the one you cook for your self... but then again, you may as well just use wm5 ass just about all of the new features that distinguish 6 and 6.1 are cooked into the oem. camera and mms is also an addon.
maybe you would have better luck if you actualy listed the features you wanted instead of the ones you didnt.
or better yet, learn to cook one, then you would understand how it works, and wouldnt ask for something like that.
all of the cooks on this forum try to cook the best rom. and the fact that you insult their cooking doesnt help. You dont go into a restaraunt asking for a raw piece of meat on a plate and then eat it; do you?!
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wonderful reply.....thats it. esp the line u said You dont go into a restaraunt asking for a raw piece of meat on a plate and then eat it; do you?.
yes we are here to experminent & we are doing it.........
if someone want clean one why not try officials rom.....

Great reply
The best is the demand "I want..."
Thanks SVI

Instead of all theese writing, it would be better if anyone give me THIS LINK!
THANKS !

Amazing you are can read

just wait till he realizes that he could have a well cooked his own 209 or 588 rom as easy as cut and paste, well, maybe not 588... Does anyone remember Faria?
Oh, and another thing: When I got to this country, "please" and "thank you" were not the first words they tried to teach me in school; it was "**** You". Luckily, I learned the pleasantries of "please" and "thank you" before I got here.
AnTo, you should start saying these things when you make requests. otherwize it seems like you are making angry demands.

S.V.I said:
just wait till he realizes that he could have a well cooked his own 209 or 588 rom as easy as cut and paste, well, maybe not 588... Does anyone remember Faria?
Oh, and another thing: When I got to this country, "please" and "thank you" were not the first words they tried to teach me in school; it was "**** You". Luckily, I learned the pleasantries of "please" and "thank you" before I got here.
AnTo, you should start saying these things when you make requests. otherwize it seems like you are making angry demands.
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Damn, I think I just orgasm'd!!!
GREAT response, kudos to you!!!
And for the record...I WANT a device capable of auto-switching roms every day so that I can have my cake and eat it too...and yes, I belong to RFA.

AnT0 said:
Instead of all theese writing, it would be better if anyone give me THIS LINK!
THANKS !
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i remember a song from Amy Winehouse - Help Yourself
"I can't help you if you won't help yourself
I can't help you if you don't help yourself
Yo can help so, you can only get so much from someone yeah
I can't help you if you won't help yourself"