New Tilt - HardSPL will not install - WHITE SCREEN {SOLVED} - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

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Thanks to jockyw2001 this is no longer an issue. Please see his sticky thread for the fix and directions...
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Hello all...
First off, let me start by saying that this is not my device, it's a friend's at work... I have done the same process on pretty much all my friends' Tilts (like 10 or 12 of them) and haven't seen this issue until today.
When I try to install HardSPL to the device I get the normal pop-ups on the screen about security and then Pof's "continue" message and when it is supposed to go to the JumpSPL (tri-color) screen all I get is a white screen. This happens on my device too for just a moment before I get the tri-color but his device just sits there...
The plus side is that is doesn't actually do anything to the device, it boots fine with a soft reset.
So far I've tried flashing the AKU 0.4.4 ROM which does install so it doesn't appear to be a software issue (at least not OS level). I have also tried mtty and issuing a 'task 2a' but nothing happens I just get the
cmd>
prompt back after running it, no output to the screen whatsoever.
Anyways...I'm just starting this thread to see if there are any other NEW Tilt owners (or Kaiser in general) that might be experiencing this problem. And if you know of a fix...
Cheers,

From many years of working on people's computers, phones, etc. let me give you a friendly tip:
Don't ever touch someone else's device to make modifications to it.
By doing so you become the sole person responsible - the sole person who will be blamed 6 months down the road when something doesn't work, they have warranty issues, etc.
I've taken on the method of giving people everything they need, helping get them set up, explaining the risk, then making them push the button.
Just a thought..

appreciate the feedback... but I don't mind helping my friends and I let them know the risks prior to any mods.
There are those here that don't want their phones "upgraded" and I don't help them. Those who do and don't want to research, come to me.
Back on topic though... has anyone else seen this behavior?
I saw several threads in the Hermes forum concerning "white screen" but they were after flashing ROMs... this issue is before HardSPL actually gets flashed.
Thanks again!

I wonder if maybe your friend has a newer revision or something that includes a new bootloader.
Can you enter the boorloader manually and see what version it is?

gthing said:
I wonder if maybe your friend has a newer revision or something that includes a new bootloader.
Can you enter the boorloader manually and see what version it is?
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Yah I was thinking that as well... I did check it and it showed:
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.56.0000
CPLD-8
Before I installed AKU 0.4.4... after which it now reads:
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
... still no love but at least its working, would like to get HardSPL on it though.

Interesting....
You might try hitting up the irc channel - Oli usually hangs out in there and might have some insight.

I had this on my TYTN - and that was due to some hardware failures or wrong .net version. Try to install the newest .net and see..

Martinhdk said:
I had this on my TYTN - and that was due to some hardware failures or wrong .net version. Try to install the newest .net and see..
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well I wouldn't think it was .net since I managed to flash the AKU0.4.4 ROM (should be a new .net or at least a "reinstall" there). I tried it anyways and installed .NET CF 3.5 ... still no love, same white screen issue when running SSPL-KAIS.exe
I'll see if I can catch Oli on IRC. Can you point me to the server and channel?

sirsycho said:
well I wouldn't think it was .net since I managed to flash the AKU0.4.4 ROM (should be a new .net or at least a "reinstall" there). I tried it anyways and installed .NET CF 3.5 ... still no love, same white screen issue when running SSPL-KAIS.exe
I'll see if I can catch Oli on IRC. Can you point me to the server and channel?
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irc.freenode.net
#xda-devs

Sirsycho... i answered you in the original thread. I had similar issue however i needed to remove the SIM card and the SD card. Then the white screen disappeared and the tri color one appeared. try removing the SIM and SD cards b4 installing. Also remember the issue with the AntiVirus...

asfoor said:
Sirsycho... i answered you in the original thread. I had similar issue however i needed to remove the SIM card and the SD card. Then the white screen disappeared and the tri color one appeared. try removing the SIM and SD cards b4 installing. Also remember the issue with the AntiVirus...
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Good idea asfoor... I did actually remove the SD card but for some reason didn't think to remove the SIM. I'm home now and will have another opportunity to try again with his phone tomorrow. I'll post my results then.
Thanks again for the tip... makes me feel silly that I didn't think of it though

alright... I took out both SIM and SD this time, but still just the white screen. I really wish I could get the task 2a to work, I think it's probably a bad block issue that JumpSPL is attempting to access.

I'm having the exact same issue. I've read and searched, only finding your thread. Just hangs forever on the white screen, never getting to tricolor.
Anyone else having this issue?
ROM Version: 1.57.502.2
ROM Date: 08/25/07
Radio Version: 1.27.12.11
Protocol Version: 22.45.88.07H

plirky said:
I'm having the exact same issue. I've read and searched, only finding your thread. Just hangs forever on the white screen, never getting to tricolor.
Anyone else having this issue?
ROM Version: 1.57.502.2
ROM Date: 08/25/07
Radio Version: 1.27.12.11
Protocol Version: 22.45.88.07H
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when did you get your device?
Out of sheer curiosity, check the manufacture date:
remove back cover... date should be just above the battery in the following format: MMDDYY
For example, mine which does work and which I have HardSPL on reports: 061107
I will get the date from the "broken" one tomorrow.

I just got it two days ago.
The manufacture date on mine is 080907.
weird...

Anyone else have any ideas?
"When I try to install HardSPL to the device I get the normal pop-ups on the screen about security and then Pof's "continue" message and when it is supposed to go to the JumpSPL (tri-color) screen all I get is a white screen."

Mine is 080907 and I remembered clearly that when I first tried the hardspl it frozed, so I just take the battery out and redid it again and it worked.. I also noticed I didn't follow the instruction as it was told earlier the first time: unplug the cable and replug it back in etc etc.
But right now I'm using Dutty's Tilt Rom Beta 2 and loving every minute of it. (I did disable the cube but kept everything else the same) so I can use transcriber.
So far, since a week ago, I am LOVING every minute of it.

Yeah...
I've got one of these bad boys, just came Friday with date of 181007 (which suggests it is DDMMYY, not MMDDYY) Code after date is (RC01). My previous Tilt (returned for continuous vibration glitch) had (RB01) code. I've tried all the suggestions here... no luck. Damn White screen forever....
NOT fun.
plirky said:
I just got it two days ago.
The manufacture date on mine is 080907.
weird...
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What is inside the parenthesis just after the date of manufacture? (RB01), (RC01), other?

I'm having the same issue here. Just got the phone a week ago. MFG date: 181007. Any ideas would but very much appreciated.

dantegl36 said:
I'm having the same issue here. Just got the phone a week ago. MFG date: 181007. Any ideas would but very much appreciated.
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Yep Same issue here, Got mine a few days ago: 181007 (RC01)
This sucks....

Related

G4 Crossbow Rom PIN bug

Hi
I have read a number of posts of people with similar issue to myself with the recent Corssbow roms on a G4 handset.
I have upgraded to both
PDAVIET 4.0.0.0.1 and
PDAVIET 4.0.0.0.3
both of which have bummed out on me and randomly stopped accepting my 100% correct pin to unlock my device.
I have tried to disable all pin codes on my device and using SignGuard Pro. however I was surprised to find a pin code request after a randon soft reset.
This is driving me bananas as it seems to make all Crossbow roms unusable for a G4 unit, which is a shame because they're excellent.
Has anyne found a workaround for this?, or a bugfix or possibly a rom which doesnt bug out? or whether Jesters upcoming release will attend to this issue.
All info would be great, as Im forced to hard reset my device every day and restoring everything, or rolling back to ~WM5 which would be a shame.
I've also recently installed the new PDAViet 4.0.0.4 SSE edition and once again this morning I was locked out after a full battery drain.
So far I've noticed no Battery drain with 4.0.0.1 or 4.0.0.3.
Anyone able to help at all? there are other versions of this ROM out there can anyone report back?, there must be more than just myself on a G4
*****EDIT*****
And also locked after a soft reset following a freeze installing BatterStatus on the new PDAViet 4.0.0.0.5, /
Am I posting this is the right area of the forum, its getting about as much interest as a fat chick in a roller disco?, Shall I move it to the G4 area, or the Prophet mobile 6 area?
I have this problem also, after I soft-reset, it doesn't accept my pin... I just do no pin and get on, but i would also like a fix.
I mate, thanks for the reply. I was beginning to think there was a neebie first post stigma here of something.
I've run a couple of the PDAViet versions with Pin security disabled. But the same issue unfortunately eventually the phone randomly 'requires' a Pin which isn't recognised. Even with alterntive phone lock security installed. Its a real boner. How long have you been running fine with no Pin enabled?, I got about 2 days
I have the same problem. I don't think this is isolated to G4 devices as I do have G3 Prophet. I also been using password with all other 4.0.0.0.4's I've used with no issues at all. I'm hoping this won't settle down to "just disable your PIN" resolution as this is a security issue.
I agree, its a bit of a mystery how everyone else is coping considering from what your saying that this is an issue accross the board, regardless of Prophet version or ROM. I think you were just lucky with your other ROM upgrades that your pin never became a problem, I think I was running 4.0.0.4 for a couple of week before the chuffing thing went ****bananas. the other versions not so long. between 1 day and 3.
Im really not about to carry my PDA around without a pin, any old charlie boy could be off with it and mayhem would ensue.
Sideburnt said:
I agree, its a bit of a mystery how everyone else is coping considering from what your saying that this is an issue accross the board, regardless of Prophet version or ROM. I think you were just lucky with your other ROM upgrades that your pin never became a problem, I think I was running 4.0.0.4 for a couple of week before the chuffing thing went ****bananas. the other versions not so long. between 1 day and 3.
Im really not about to carry my PDA around without a pin, any old charlie boy could be off with it and mayhem would ensue.
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I ended up going back to 4.0.0.0.4S_PV as this Rom didn't give me any issue with Password. I hope it stays that way or I don't have a choice but to reverse back to WM5.
I own an employment agency and I can't imagine somebody picking up my PDA and starts entering Tasks and Appointments, and messing with Files. It all syncs with my 3 laptops in my office and my personal laptop using Exchange. My secretary will not be pleased.

help !!!!

hi guys i just got the treo 750 a few days ago and i ran the unlocker and the program never finished i can never complete the last step i didnt know if it worked so i did a hard reset thinking that every thing would go back to normal and i think it did but i still have the custom spl im running the wmdc beta because i have a hermes also i was wondering if i still need to flash the radio to get wm6 im an att user and i have the treo from att can some one help me out
thanks in advance
This seems to be also my Problem.
The first step (Hard-SPL) flashing works fine, so does the second. But then, after I am told to watch my devices screen, a wierd error message pops up un my PC and I can't do anything.
Does anyone have any Idea whats wrong?
cu
-MM-
(Oh and by the way, this threads topic is really bad! how should anyone find us here if you write nothing other than "Help!" I'd recommend "Cheetah unlocking failed" or something more explicit!)
Possible Solution:
Take a look at this Post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1640430&postcount=151
Actually reding other thrads is sometimes a good Idea ;-)... hopfully this will work for me...

BRICK: Q-Mobile, Orange Uk, Hard Spl'd

****
My phone seems to have given up the ghost. A few days after having put on the excellent Q-Mobile system. My phone has refused to boot properly. Heres what happens:
In start up from Soft reset, or Power off, i get the tricolour screen saying:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0 OliPof
CPLD-8
a few2 lines benath that is written 'Serial'
it then flashed onto a white screen saying 'loading......no image file' - this all takes about a second.
And then it rests on the screen mentioned above.
I haven't dropped it or done anything other than flash- correctly.
AAAARGH! it does randomly decide to boot up properly after its been left of for a whil if that helps.
Also - active synch wont recognise it , in the tr-colour state.
HELP!!!
Just bring it back to the store and claim your warranty.
If they start asking questions just say that you are unaware of any software change, act like your life depends on it
European law states that every device should have a 2 year warranty.
Try a hard reset...
Hold down the two so-called "soft buttons" at the bottom of the screen while pressing the reset button with the stylus.
I feel your pain man!
the phone is now on, anyone out there got any advice on how to stabalise?
thansk for the support!
tuntang said:
the phone is now on, anyone out there got any advice on how to stabalise?
thansk for the support!
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Update to dutty's v3 rom that is your best bet...
tekerleki said:
Update to dutty's v3 rom that is your best bet...
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Its all well and good to pump your favorite ROM, but don't give bad advice. This sounds like a hardware issue to me (usually intermittent things like this are). I recommend the same as a user above...go claim your warranty and be on the safe side.
FYI there's absolutely nothing in any ROM (including mine) that should make your device do this.
Quentin- said:
Its all well and good to pump your favorite ROM, but don't give bad advice. This sounds like a hardware issue to me (usually intermittent things like this are). I recommend the same as a user above...go claim your warranty and be on the safe side.
FYI there's absolutely nothing in any ROM (including mine) that should make your device do this.
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Maybe I should have been more clear with my previous post, it happened to me too (exactly similar symptoms) but with different rom (not Quentin).
tuntang said:
the phone is now on, anyone out there got any advice on how to stabalise?
thansk for the support!
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Connect phone to PC with a usb cable.
Does the word "Serial" on the phone display change to "USB"?
If not you are in trouble and you have to send it to service.
But if it shows USB you can flash any ROM update.
thanks for all the help
Its sorted now, and i'm running a perfectly stable Q Mobile. Its really nice not being 'Dutty-Centric'. In response to the person that said upgrade to Dutty V3, it was bad advice for another reason. It would have been incompatible with my radio. Only AT&T versions work on my uk orange tytnII i've got the ...14.09 radio.
anyways - thanks for intervening Quentin and well done its a brilliant ROM
tuntang said:
Its sorted now, and i'm running a perfectly stable Q Mobile. Its really nice not being 'Dutty-Centric'. In response to the person that said upgrade to Dutty V3, it was bad advice for another reason. It would have been incompatible with my radio. Only AT&T versions work on my uk orange tytnII i've got the ...14.09 radio.
anyways - thanks for intervening Quentin and well done its a brilliant ROM
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Did I read that right? How have you got a 14.09 radio on your orange UK tytn II. Did it come like that or did you flash the radio?
Edit: sorry for the 20 questions but Its the first I've heard of an orange uk tytn 2 haveing the 14.09 radio.

Orange UK - HTC TyTn II - Newbie Questions

Hi,
I have had my HTC TyTn II from Orange UK for 3 days now, I love the phone but hate the fact that Orange have removed windows live messenger, and customised the home screen (not in a good way in my opinion!).
Here are the version numbers I see as the phone starts:
R 1.27.14.32
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.81.00.00
I have been reading up on this forum for the past few days and have decided the best way to get rid of the Orange customised screen and the lack of windows live messenger would be to flash the TyTn II with a different ROM, maybe the original HTC ROM??
Obviously my main concern is bricking my phone, and also voiding the warentee, so i'm basically looking for advice on my best course of action?
I have read that the first thing I should do is load HardSPL (which I understand is a modified bootloader?) my current bootloader versions show as: (obtained by powering up the phone with the camera button pressed)
KAIS130
SPL-1.81.0000
CPLD-8
..but won't even this first step of replacing my bootloader void my warentee, or can it be reversed?? Can I take a backup of my entire phone (including bootloader) in it's current state so that it can be restored if need be?
Can anyone give me some advice / point me in the right direction of where I should start, as I am scared of breaking my new phone, as people on other sites have said they have done!!
Thanks in advance,
Regards
Richard
Read this tread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365497
then:
Read all the wiki's and stickies for Your device (Kaiser, right).
Use Search to find out about things whick is not clear.
Best of luck!
Personally, I would go for it.
yes to hardspl
then I wouldnt settle for a stock rom - I would go for a cooked one- like dutty's.
You will void the warranty, and as far as I know there is no way back from this.
But that is what this site is all about. Ignore the #2 poster, I can see you have read all you can and you seem to have the right idea about this. So go on.
Just do all of the HardSPL steps and then install a Cooked ROM.
You won't look back. At the moment I suggest you stay away from the 6.1 ROMs until a stable one emerges.
I have an Orange Kaiser.. the branding is really crappy compared to the HTC stuff, god knows why they changed it!
Anyway, I thought I'd retain my warranty for the time being.
So I removed the Orange Home app, installed the HTC Home with 5 buttons, the HTC WMP skin, HTC Calc skin and Kaiser Tweak - all from here and it's much better now.
I expect I could save some memory and get it running a little faster without the Orange ROM, but for the time being it's fine.
Rob.
goforboy said:
Hi,
I have had my HTC TyTn II from Orange UK for 3 days now, I love the phone but hate the fact that Orange have removed windows live messenger, and customised the home screen (not in a good way in my opinion!).
Here are the version numbers I see as the phone starts:
R 1.27.14.32
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.81.00.00
I have been reading up on this forum for the past few days and have decided the best way to get rid of the Orange customised screen and the lack of windows live messenger would be to flash the TyTn II with a different ROM, maybe the original HTC ROM??
Obviously my main concern is bricking my phone, and also voiding the warentee, so i'm basically looking for advice on my best course of action?
I have read that the first thing I should do is load HardSPL (which I understand is a modified bootloader?) my current bootloader versions show as: (obtained by powering up the phone with the camera button pressed)
KAIS130
SPL-1.81.0000
CPLD-8
..but won't even this first step of replacing my bootloader void my warentee, or can it be reversed?? Can I take a backup of my entire phone (including bootloader) in it's current state so that it can be restored if need be?
Can anyone give me some advice / point me in the right direction of where I should start, as I am scared of breaking my new phone, as people on other sites have said they have done!!
Thanks in advance,
Regards
Richard
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Do it.. BUT READ EVERYTHING ON THIS FORUM FIRST RELATING TO FLASHING ROMs. Once you have read it, read it again and ensure you understand it. That way it is unlikely you will brick the device.
I had my TYTN II for a week or so and then flashed it to a new ROM... would never consider going back to the orange one...unless of course it needs to go back as a faulty device. ( there are original orange ROMs to revert back to on here if you ever need them)
It's interesting to see you have the .32 radio on yours.....Mine was shipped with .29 so I may now consider flashing my radio ROM.. how are your signal strengths and GPS lock times??
c.b said:
It's interesting to see you have the .32 radio on yours.....Mine was shipped with .29 so I may now consider flashing my radio ROM.
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With what? I had the .32 and couldn't find a copy of it anywhere. I wanted to keep a backup in case of warranty return but I inadvertently flashed the wrong rom yesterday resulting in a new radio and SIM lock
Obviously removing the SIM lock was easy enough but now I can never revert back to my original radio.
The main reason I wanted to re-flash the radio was to see if my wifi problems could be resolved since most of the reports I have seen about the wifi issue relate to UK Orange phones... No luck there either and it's really starting to stress me out
Someone has told me they might have a contact at Orange dev to get a copy of the original rom but I'll believe that when I see it
Anyway, back on topic... even though I've no way to revert back my radio for warranty return, I'm glad I'm rid of the Orange bloatware and will never look back.
Duttys rom looked and felt nice but I had Bluetooth issues with that so have gone back to stock HTC rom for now. HTC home plus the Home customiser, some new icons, quickMenu and that'll do it nicely for me
One word of advice though.... after you've installed hardSPL, CID and SIM unlocked, you'll never be able to put the device down. I don't even want to think about the amount of time I've spent flashing and playing with it since then
foobar1977 said:
With what? I had the .32 and couldn't find a copy of it anywhere.
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I have seen a couple of references to it somewhere in the 248 page Dutty V4 thread. I may try and find it when I find enough time to trawl through it...search yeilds nothing sadly.
foobar1977 said:
One word of advice though.... after you've installed hardSPL, CID and SIM unlocked, you'll never be able to put the device down. I don't even want to think about the amount of time I've spent flashing and playing with it since then
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This is the most truthful thing I have ever read on here Just wait till you get HTC home customiser installed....hours upon hours of wasted productivity at my desk due to that.

Totally & Utterly Confused!!

I know, I know, there are loads of threads like this but I must be lacking something in the brains department as I've spent the last 6 days (since I got my orange tytn) reading this forum trying to understand how to unlock the thing without turning it into a brick and then to flash a rom and radio.
Everything I read on here has people contradicting other people and I end up not having a clue what to do in the end.
HEELLLLP!!!
To confuse matters even more I thought I'd got it sussed and then read about roms having/not having a CUBE!!!! WTF???? I then gave up and started typing this thread...
Here's what I think......and PLEASE correct me or agree with me....
Firstly I seem to be stumbling at the first hurdle since I have an orange tytn and that it seems is the worse to have for some reason???
I thought I'd start off simply by using the kaiser simunlocker to unlock the phone (by jocky) but then came across something called hardspl with all its variances, so OK lets go with the flow and dismiss the hardspl step for now assuming I can do it and read on...
Assuming I could ever find a program that makes a backup of the rom I've got I'd carry on with the unlocker until I get to the step (step 10) that says download the original radio..............this of course doesn't exist (1.27.14.32) so I look for a proggy that downloads the radio to use at this point. Here's where I come unstuck again.........no proggy!!
At this point I must assume that this may not be possible on the model I've got if I want to be sure I can make it original again.
Could someone please confirm this so I can accept the fact that I have to use what came with the phone and save myself a few hours a night getting nowhere...
Sorry for my rant but I'm frustrated that my old brain can't figure this out and giving up seems to be the only option. I completely understand that I'll get flamed for this since I'm a noobie and asking again what numerous otheres have asked but I accept that...
I have great respect for all you guys that can actually understand this on first reading and especially the people who produce this stuff....
Thanks again folks
familyguy said:
I know, I know, there are loads of threads like this but I must be lacking something in the brains department as I've spent the last 6 days (since I got my orange tytn) reading this forum trying to understand how to unlock the thing without turning it into a brick and then to flash a rom and radio.
Everything I read on here has people contradicting other people and I end up not having a clue what to do in the end.
HEELLLLP!!!
To confuse matters even more I thought I'd got it sussed and then read about roms having/not having a CUBE!!!! WTF???? I then gave up and started typing this thread...
Here's what I think......and PLEASE correct me or agree with me....
Firstly I seem to be stumbling at the first hurdle since I have an orange tytn and that it seems is the worse to have for some reason???
I thought I'd start off simply by using the kaiser simunlocker to unlock the phone (by jocky) but then came across something called hardspl with all its variances, so OK lets go with the flow and dismiss the hardspl step for now assuming I can do it and read on...
Assuming I could ever find a program that makes a backup of the rom I've got I'd carry on with the unlocker until I get to the step (step 10) that says download the original radio..............this of course doesn't exist (1.27.14.32) so I look for a proggy that downloads the radio to use at this point. Here's where I come unstuck again.........no proggy!!
At this point I must assume that this may not be possible on the model I've got if I want to be sure I can make it original again.
Could someone please confirm this so I can accept the fact that I have to use what came with the phone and save myself a few hours a night getting nowhere...
Sorry for my rant but I'm frustrated that my old brain can't figure this out and giving up seems to be the only option. I completely understand that I'll get flamed for this since I'm a noobie and asking again what numerous otheres have asked but I accept that...
I have great respect for all you guys that can actually understand this on first reading and especially the people who produce this stuff....
Thanks again folks
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Screw what everyone tells you and start with the link above this thread. Actually the second thread on this page. I think I am one of the oldest around here so its not your "old" brain. _Alex_ has gone to great length to get all of the information you need in one place. Start with his sticky. Good luck.
hello, lots of stuff to learn, first thing, which sounds like you did is read, next hard SPL
see the 2nd sticky in the forum,
go down to kaiser wiki, then rom tools wiki, the 3rd choice, hard SPL cid unlock, read carefully and install, once completed, now your phone is ready to flash roms, (for Kaiser) most come with radio or recommend radios to use and not use. if you have problems with hard spl then use the wiki again to troubleshoot and the first 2 stickys
im out
just sell your kaiser and stick to a razor......lol.....j/k....just listen to p1tater...hes right!!
Hey family guy,
A few months back I got an Orange TYTN II just like you. I read for about a week on here untill I felt confident enough in the steps needed to flash a new ROM. First off I Hard SPL and then went for Dutty V3 ROM which was perfect untill I then felt clever enough to flash a new ROM a few weeks later. Due to not sim unlocking correctly the first time around, upon a new radio being flashed to the phone It locked my SIM.. untill I found out the true way to SIM unlock the phone.
Once you have Hard Spl and SIM unlocked you are well away. I know at this point you are probably feeling pretty confused with all this but believe me it is well worth it in the end.
Oh and FYI.... I can confirm that there is an Orange original Rom on here and a few compatible radios should you ever need to revert back to them for some reason as I had to do this myself at one point when trying to work out where I was having issues with something.
All the best
Chris
P.s are we going to start the "who is the oldest contest yet?"
c.b said:
P.s are we going to start the "who is the oldest contest yet?"
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There's been one around for a while:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325426
but then they do say that memory's the first thing to go, so I'll forgive you!
Confused Stu said:
There's been one around for a while:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325426
but then they do say that memory's the first thing to go, so I'll forgive you!
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PMSL....That's where it went, I knew I had left it somewhere. Now where are my damn glasses I can't read a thing.
Unlock your Orange Kaiser
Here's my experience ..
1. Basically HardSPL your Tytn II to facilitate a cooked ROM that can be 'sim unlocked'
2. Install the Cooked Rom
3. Run the Sim unlock generator code
4. Phone is *UNLOCKED !*
5. Install a ROM of your choice
6. Install a Radio of your choice
Here's the stuff I used:
READ ALL THE POSTS - READ ALL THE POSTS !!
** USE WINDOWS XP OS with Activesync!! **
1. HTC Kaiser Hard-SPL v1 - CID Unlock & Flash any ROM to your device
You will know you got it right when it says either 1.0.HardSPL or 1.0.OliPof.
NOTE: I had problems here and had to force it with JumpSPL1.93 because HardSPL would not install.
2+3. I used Jockyw2001 Kaiser Sim Unlocker v0.1
NOTE:
> The file has three steps ... 1, 2 & 3 so you can't go wrong:
> Step 1. Installs the 'patched' Radio
> Step 2. Generates the key code for unlocking (on your PC) which you enter into the Tytn.
> Step 3. Installs a replacement radio
4. My code was a series of numbers that I had to type into the screen.
5+6. Read my signature for what I'm using today (it changes)
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All instructions are on screen with prompts.
I sweated for days before I chanced it and it took me about 15 minutes from start to finish but you end up with a pucka HTC looking Tytn II and not the Orange variant.
A few important pointers from the bit I learned:
1. You cannot do this on a WM6.1 Tytn II, you have to go down to WM6.0 - As mine was WM6.0 it didn't matter.
2. Vista is a ***** for doing this and you have enough things to think about without the PC's OS .. USE XP !!
3. HardSPL once done, the Tytn II is clear for all future ROM + Radio upgrades.
4. Bootloader = Power button + Camera button + Reset with stylus
5. Hard reset is Left softkey + Right softkey + Reset with stylus
6. Always Hard reset after blowing any new ROM before using.
7. Backup all your contacts etc. to your SD card with PIM Backup 2.8 before you do anything.
8. Remove the SD card before you begin.
9. The 'Cube' isn't always included in the ROM's - I use this CUBE
10. Most Roms come with their own 'loader' called 'Kaiser_RUU' so you don't have too much to think about.
11. Stick your Radio and ROM information in your signature, you never know when you may want to go back and forget what you had installed ;-)
12. Installing a new radio on a phone that isn't SIM Unlocked will result in a LOCKED TO ALL NETWORKS phone - So SIM Unlock it !!
Enjoy
PS. Let me know if you can't find the files you need.
SIM Unlocker Software HERE
PPS. Before you unlock your Orange can you pop over to this thread and answer Rabdo's question - Thanks.
ajs007 said:
Here's my experience ..
12. Installing a new radio on a phone that isn't SIM Unlocked will result in a LOCKED TO ALL NETWORKS phone - So SIM Unlock it !!
this thread and answer Rabdo's question - Thanks.
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Hey I have a question about this point - I've never SIM unlocked my phone and have flashed about 6 ROMS, and various radios and never had a problem. All I did was run hardSpl, then started flashing.
So what I'm asking is are you sure of this point?
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This is a useless thread. Mods please close this thread.
P1Tater said:
Screw what everyone tells you and start with the link above this thread. Actually the second thread on this page. I think I am one of the oldest around here so its not your "old" brain. _Alex_ has gone to great length to get all of the information you need in one place. Start with his sticky. Good luck.
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Oldest around here your a Matt Serra fan I swore you were like 25.
-McMex
mattarse said:
Hey I have a question about this point - I've never SIM unlocked my phone and have flashed about 6 ROMS, and various radios and never had a problem. All I did was run hardSpl, then started flashing.
So what I'm asking is are you sure of this point?
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I have heard before that Orange Kaiser's are a little different to other networks and need to be SIM-unlocked before they can use a different network.
Confused Stu said:
I have heard before that Orange Kaiser's are a little different to other networks and need to be SIM-unlocked before they can use a different network.
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Ok thanks, that would make sense then.
Cheers!
Hi all and thanks for your comments advice and encouragement..........just quickly looking at the old age thread I am one of the oldest at 47!!
The thing about this thread is that it's happened again and there are only 13 posts!!
There's been contradiction about the orange tytn above. Some peeps say it needs to be unlocked (and that they've done it but don't mention what radio they're using), and some peeps say it doesn't need to be unlocked!?!?!?
There is my confusion and my hesitation to do anything in case I lock the sim out completely. That I can't have as I need the phone at all times to get in toch with my kids (humans or small goats depending on what your state of mind is!).
Here is what I think I should do...
1.) Use hardspl to unlock something (not sure what at the mo) so that I am able to flash
2.) Unlock the SIM lock using kaiser sim unlocker (or not! jury is out, but not sure which radio to use so scared of brickifying it)
3.) Flash my choice of rom (but not sure if I have to then flash a radio or if the radio is included in the rom)
That's about all my poor tired OLD.......VERY OLD brains can figure out and there are enough 'I don't knows' there to stop me in my tracks...
I'll keep reading though but in the meantime I could do with gleaning info from someone who is in the UK on orange and maybe has a recent model...
TTFN
familyguy said:
I'll keep reading though but in the meantime I could do with gleaning info from someone who is in the UK on orange and maybe has a recent model...
TTFN
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I'll be 48 in August, so it's not just the Youngsters who play with the 'phones.
(Does that make me the oldest ?)
I bought the TytnII from the Orange Shop in Leicester just before Christmas but didn't have the bottle to unlock it for months ... Main reason was the unlocking 4 months ago was £20 !! and i didn't want to brick it either.
I spotted someone selling the unlocking service on ebay about a month ago, so I knew someone had cracked it here (and some cheapskate was selling the service.)
Feel free to private message me, if you need to we can talk it through over the phone.
Alan.
familyguy said:
There's been contradiction about the orange tytn above. Some peeps say it needs to be unlocked (and that they've done it but don't mention what radio they're using), and some peeps say it doesn't need to be unlocked!?!?!?
TTFN
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I may have added to the confusion - I do not have an Orange phone, adn was questioning whether you need to SIM unlock the phone b/c I hadn't. Later it was pointed out that Orange phones may be different and need to be.
mattarse
Greetings to all...........and a damn good weekend to everyone!!
mattarse you simply added to the confusion in my mind............for other it was probably very clear
ajs007, I will PM you and perhaps a quick chat to get me up and running would be great!
One thing I do know though..........when (yes, I've gone from if to when) I get more knowledable about this I'll be one of the first peeps there to help anyone out if I can!
After a long chat with ajs007 (for which I am very grateful) I felt I had the confidence to go ahead and install hardspl using the jumpspl route.
My tale of woe follows as it was unsuccessful every time...
I followed jockys instructions,
1a. download the 5 attached files
1b. connect your PC to phone with a USB cable
2. REMOVE SIM and SD CARDS !!
3. copy JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe to your device and run it (make sure the USB cable is still connected). If you still get a white screen then reset your device and now try JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe
4. after a few seconds "USB" appears on the phone display
5. unplug and replug the usb cable
6. deselect "Allow USB connections" in Activesync connection settings
7. now flash hardSPL (run KaiserCustomRUU.exe from flash-hardSPL.zip on your PC)
After step 3 (for both 1.56 & 1.93) I get the tri-colour screen (not mentioned above) shortly followed by 'USB' on the white at the bottom (step 4).
(I guess this makes it a quad colour screen instead of
I then did step 5 and step 6 as above and moved on to step 7 to run kaisercustomruu.exe.
I then get a screen which says verifying phone settings and a further screen which has 'current info about your pda phone:' and lists nothing!!
Another line that says 'image version:' and has nothing listed and yet another line that says 'select from below:' and has nothing next to it!?!?!?!?
There is a button that says update the current ROM version but I dare not press it if it is going to update with nothing!!!??
On top of all that I read contradiction again where the instructions above state that you must deselect 'allow usb connections' yet when you run kaisercustomruu.exe it states that you must have an activesync connection....
I'm now really confused and convinced it just isn't to be. Sorry Alan it did sound so easy when you explained it but there must be something different about my phone.........I'm going to throw myself or the phone or both of us off a tall building.............now Im totally depressed
Exit stage left feeling very sorry for oneself...
Looks like everything was A.O.K. for flashing..
IMPORTANT ** You didn't say if you had SPL xxx PoF on the Tri Screen ?
I didn't have any reference to a ROM on the install screen but it worked, probably because the ROM was in the same directory and it didn't need to look anywhere ....
I think (but I'm not 100%) the activesync USB connection is an XP v. Vista thing, and you do need USB connection in XP.
In summary, if you did have SPL xxx PoF on the Tri Screen you should be good to go.
From totally & utterly confused to successfully running Dutty's 6.1!!
Lots of bonus points and many thanks to AJS007 for allowing me to bother him with all my questions and lack of confidence.
Here's my tale...
Firstly I tried to install hardspl running from my PC and a USB cable but I got the infamous white screen!
I then followed the instructions for using jumpspl version 1.53 (for some reason the instructions I read didn't say remove and re-inset battery therefore I didn't do that bit!).
I got to the bit where 'USB' appears on the screen and pulled out the cable then re-inserted it. I have no idea why you do this but I did it. When I pulled the cable out the screen had 'Serial' on it and when I re-inserted it, it went back to 'USB'
I carried on to the next step and unchecked the 'Allow USB Connections' in Activesync (again I have no idea why you do this) and went on to run 'kaisercustomruu.exe'
Here's where I hesitated and got stuck. The program started on the PC and got to a point where it interrogated the phone, shortly after that I was presented with another screen that waited for my input ready to 'Update' but I hesitated since there was no information listed under 'Image Version:' and 'Select from below:'.
I wasn't sure what to do here and cancelled the whole thing in case I bricked it
After further investigation, more reading and speaking once again to my mentor AJS007, I decided to go ahead and throw what caution I had left to the wind, so I pressed the 'Update' button.
After a few more screens I got to the point of no return and gritted my teeth.........nothing happened........I disconnected and re-connected and tried again..........nothing again............after a third time though (and I don't know why) it burst into life and I got the 'percentage screen'.
At this point I did think I had trashed it but plodded on regardless in the hope that I hadn't and everything would be OK. Thankfully it was and on entering the bootloader screen I saw 'olipof'..............all was well
This gave me the extra bit of confidence I needed to go through the unlock procedure and then on to flash Dutty's latest. I did get to the point where I had to enter the unlock code and it took 2 attempts to accept it for some reason........I can't explain that either!!
It was all in all a stressful time and involved a lot of pacing up and down when the ROM was flashing, taking what seemed to be hours to complete and slowing down to an almost stop at certain points, but in the end it did all work and I am now left with a transformed T2, but with the following little problems,
1.) My bluetooth headset has to be paired every time I want to use it!
2.) When I go to re-calibrate the screen (with the cross hair) it freezes up and I have to do a soft reset.
3.) My screen 'tap' noises have disappeared (except when I press the 'start' button)
I haven't tried to reflash the radio to see if that will take care of the bluetooth issue yet but I intend to do so in the next few days.
For anyone that's interested I'm using the radio ROM that was included in Dutty's latest build (WM6.1_5.2.19209) which is 1.58.16.27.
Finally, once again my thanks to AJS007 who went to the trouble of helping me in my few hours of need.
If anyone new here would like to ask me any questions about my noobie experience please don't hold back!!

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