I know, I know, there are loads of threads like this but I must be lacking something in the brains department as I've spent the last 6 days (since I got my orange tytn) reading this forum trying to understand how to unlock the thing without turning it into a brick and then to flash a rom and radio.
Everything I read on here has people contradicting other people and I end up not having a clue what to do in the end.
HEELLLLP!!!
To confuse matters even more I thought I'd got it sussed and then read about roms having/not having a CUBE!!!! WTF???? I then gave up and started typing this thread...
Here's what I think......and PLEASE correct me or agree with me....
Firstly I seem to be stumbling at the first hurdle since I have an orange tytn and that it seems is the worse to have for some reason???
I thought I'd start off simply by using the kaiser simunlocker to unlock the phone (by jocky) but then came across something called hardspl with all its variances, so OK lets go with the flow and dismiss the hardspl step for now assuming I can do it and read on...
Assuming I could ever find a program that makes a backup of the rom I've got I'd carry on with the unlocker until I get to the step (step 10) that says download the original radio..............this of course doesn't exist (1.27.14.32) so I look for a proggy that downloads the radio to use at this point. Here's where I come unstuck again.........no proggy!!
At this point I must assume that this may not be possible on the model I've got if I want to be sure I can make it original again.
Could someone please confirm this so I can accept the fact that I have to use what came with the phone and save myself a few hours a night getting nowhere...
Sorry for my rant but I'm frustrated that my old brain can't figure this out and giving up seems to be the only option. I completely understand that I'll get flamed for this since I'm a noobie and asking again what numerous otheres have asked but I accept that...
I have great respect for all you guys that can actually understand this on first reading and especially the people who produce this stuff....
Thanks again folks
familyguy said:
I know, I know, there are loads of threads like this but I must be lacking something in the brains department as I've spent the last 6 days (since I got my orange tytn) reading this forum trying to understand how to unlock the thing without turning it into a brick and then to flash a rom and radio.
Everything I read on here has people contradicting other people and I end up not having a clue what to do in the end.
HEELLLLP!!!
To confuse matters even more I thought I'd got it sussed and then read about roms having/not having a CUBE!!!! WTF???? I then gave up and started typing this thread...
Here's what I think......and PLEASE correct me or agree with me....
Firstly I seem to be stumbling at the first hurdle since I have an orange tytn and that it seems is the worse to have for some reason???
I thought I'd start off simply by using the kaiser simunlocker to unlock the phone (by jocky) but then came across something called hardspl with all its variances, so OK lets go with the flow and dismiss the hardspl step for now assuming I can do it and read on...
Assuming I could ever find a program that makes a backup of the rom I've got I'd carry on with the unlocker until I get to the step (step 10) that says download the original radio..............this of course doesn't exist (1.27.14.32) so I look for a proggy that downloads the radio to use at this point. Here's where I come unstuck again.........no proggy!!
At this point I must assume that this may not be possible on the model I've got if I want to be sure I can make it original again.
Could someone please confirm this so I can accept the fact that I have to use what came with the phone and save myself a few hours a night getting nowhere...
Sorry for my rant but I'm frustrated that my old brain can't figure this out and giving up seems to be the only option. I completely understand that I'll get flamed for this since I'm a noobie and asking again what numerous otheres have asked but I accept that...
I have great respect for all you guys that can actually understand this on first reading and especially the people who produce this stuff....
Thanks again folks
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Screw what everyone tells you and start with the link above this thread. Actually the second thread on this page. I think I am one of the oldest around here so its not your "old" brain. _Alex_ has gone to great length to get all of the information you need in one place. Start with his sticky. Good luck.
hello, lots of stuff to learn, first thing, which sounds like you did is read, next hard SPL
see the 2nd sticky in the forum,
go down to kaiser wiki, then rom tools wiki, the 3rd choice, hard SPL cid unlock, read carefully and install, once completed, now your phone is ready to flash roms, (for Kaiser) most come with radio or recommend radios to use and not use. if you have problems with hard spl then use the wiki again to troubleshoot and the first 2 stickys
im out
just sell your kaiser and stick to a razor......lol.....j/k....just listen to p1tater...hes right!!
Hey family guy,
A few months back I got an Orange TYTN II just like you. I read for about a week on here untill I felt confident enough in the steps needed to flash a new ROM. First off I Hard SPL and then went for Dutty V3 ROM which was perfect untill I then felt clever enough to flash a new ROM a few weeks later. Due to not sim unlocking correctly the first time around, upon a new radio being flashed to the phone It locked my SIM.. untill I found out the true way to SIM unlock the phone.
Once you have Hard Spl and SIM unlocked you are well away. I know at this point you are probably feeling pretty confused with all this but believe me it is well worth it in the end.
Oh and FYI.... I can confirm that there is an Orange original Rom on here and a few compatible radios should you ever need to revert back to them for some reason as I had to do this myself at one point when trying to work out where I was having issues with something.
All the best
Chris
P.s are we going to start the "who is the oldest contest yet?"
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P.s are we going to start the "who is the oldest contest yet?"
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There's been one around for a while:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325426
but then they do say that memory's the first thing to go, so I'll forgive you!
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There's been one around for a while:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325426
but then they do say that memory's the first thing to go, so I'll forgive you!
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PMSL....That's where it went, I knew I had left it somewhere. Now where are my damn glasses I can't read a thing.
Unlock your Orange Kaiser
Here's my experience ..
1. Basically HardSPL your Tytn II to facilitate a cooked ROM that can be 'sim unlocked'
2. Install the Cooked Rom
3. Run the Sim unlock generator code
4. Phone is *UNLOCKED !*
5. Install a ROM of your choice
6. Install a Radio of your choice
Here's the stuff I used:
READ ALL THE POSTS - READ ALL THE POSTS !!
** USE WINDOWS XP OS with Activesync!! **
1. HTC Kaiser Hard-SPL v1 - CID Unlock & Flash any ROM to your device
You will know you got it right when it says either 1.0.HardSPL or 1.0.OliPof.
NOTE: I had problems here and had to force it with JumpSPL1.93 because HardSPL would not install.
2+3. I used Jockyw2001 Kaiser Sim Unlocker v0.1
NOTE:
> The file has three steps ... 1, 2 & 3 so you can't go wrong:
> Step 1. Installs the 'patched' Radio
> Step 2. Generates the key code for unlocking (on your PC) which you enter into the Tytn.
> Step 3. Installs a replacement radio
4. My code was a series of numbers that I had to type into the screen.
5+6. Read my signature for what I'm using today (it changes)
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All instructions are on screen with prompts.
I sweated for days before I chanced it and it took me about 15 minutes from start to finish but you end up with a pucka HTC looking Tytn II and not the Orange variant.
A few important pointers from the bit I learned:
1. You cannot do this on a WM6.1 Tytn II, you have to go down to WM6.0 - As mine was WM6.0 it didn't matter.
2. Vista is a ***** for doing this and you have enough things to think about without the PC's OS .. USE XP !!
3. HardSPL once done, the Tytn II is clear for all future ROM + Radio upgrades.
4. Bootloader = Power button + Camera button + Reset with stylus
5. Hard reset is Left softkey + Right softkey + Reset with stylus
6. Always Hard reset after blowing any new ROM before using.
7. Backup all your contacts etc. to your SD card with PIM Backup 2.8 before you do anything.
8. Remove the SD card before you begin.
9. The 'Cube' isn't always included in the ROM's - I use this CUBE
10. Most Roms come with their own 'loader' called 'Kaiser_RUU' so you don't have too much to think about.
11. Stick your Radio and ROM information in your signature, you never know when you may want to go back and forget what you had installed ;-)
12. Installing a new radio on a phone that isn't SIM Unlocked will result in a LOCKED TO ALL NETWORKS phone - So SIM Unlock it !!
Enjoy
PS. Let me know if you can't find the files you need.
SIM Unlocker Software HERE
PPS. Before you unlock your Orange can you pop over to this thread and answer Rabdo's question - Thanks.
ajs007 said:
Here's my experience ..
12. Installing a new radio on a phone that isn't SIM Unlocked will result in a LOCKED TO ALL NETWORKS phone - So SIM Unlock it !!
this thread and answer Rabdo's question - Thanks.
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Hey I have a question about this point - I've never SIM unlocked my phone and have flashed about 6 ROMS, and various radios and never had a problem. All I did was run hardSpl, then started flashing.
So what I'm asking is are you sure of this point?
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This is a useless thread. Mods please close this thread.
P1Tater said:
Screw what everyone tells you and start with the link above this thread. Actually the second thread on this page. I think I am one of the oldest around here so its not your "old" brain. _Alex_ has gone to great length to get all of the information you need in one place. Start with his sticky. Good luck.
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Oldest around here your a Matt Serra fan I swore you were like 25.
-McMex
mattarse said:
Hey I have a question about this point - I've never SIM unlocked my phone and have flashed about 6 ROMS, and various radios and never had a problem. All I did was run hardSpl, then started flashing.
So what I'm asking is are you sure of this point?
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I have heard before that Orange Kaiser's are a little different to other networks and need to be SIM-unlocked before they can use a different network.
Confused Stu said:
I have heard before that Orange Kaiser's are a little different to other networks and need to be SIM-unlocked before they can use a different network.
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Ok thanks, that would make sense then.
Cheers!
Hi all and thanks for your comments advice and encouragement..........just quickly looking at the old age thread I am one of the oldest at 47!!
The thing about this thread is that it's happened again and there are only 13 posts!!
There's been contradiction about the orange tytn above. Some peeps say it needs to be unlocked (and that they've done it but don't mention what radio they're using), and some peeps say it doesn't need to be unlocked!?!?!?
There is my confusion and my hesitation to do anything in case I lock the sim out completely. That I can't have as I need the phone at all times to get in toch with my kids (humans or small goats depending on what your state of mind is!).
Here is what I think I should do...
1.) Use hardspl to unlock something (not sure what at the mo) so that I am able to flash
2.) Unlock the SIM lock using kaiser sim unlocker (or not! jury is out, but not sure which radio to use so scared of brickifying it)
3.) Flash my choice of rom (but not sure if I have to then flash a radio or if the radio is included in the rom)
That's about all my poor tired OLD.......VERY OLD brains can figure out and there are enough 'I don't knows' there to stop me in my tracks...
I'll keep reading though but in the meantime I could do with gleaning info from someone who is in the UK on orange and maybe has a recent model...
TTFN
familyguy said:
I'll keep reading though but in the meantime I could do with gleaning info from someone who is in the UK on orange and maybe has a recent model...
TTFN
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I'll be 48 in August, so it's not just the Youngsters who play with the 'phones.
(Does that make me the oldest ?)
I bought the TytnII from the Orange Shop in Leicester just before Christmas but didn't have the bottle to unlock it for months ... Main reason was the unlocking 4 months ago was £20 !! and i didn't want to brick it either.
I spotted someone selling the unlocking service on ebay about a month ago, so I knew someone had cracked it here (and some cheapskate was selling the service.)
Feel free to private message me, if you need to we can talk it through over the phone.
Alan.
familyguy said:
There's been contradiction about the orange tytn above. Some peeps say it needs to be unlocked (and that they've done it but don't mention what radio they're using), and some peeps say it doesn't need to be unlocked!?!?!?
TTFN
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I may have added to the confusion - I do not have an Orange phone, adn was questioning whether you need to SIM unlock the phone b/c I hadn't. Later it was pointed out that Orange phones may be different and need to be.
mattarse
Greetings to all...........and a damn good weekend to everyone!!
mattarse you simply added to the confusion in my mind............for other it was probably very clear
ajs007, I will PM you and perhaps a quick chat to get me up and running would be great!
One thing I do know though..........when (yes, I've gone from if to when) I get more knowledable about this I'll be one of the first peeps there to help anyone out if I can!
After a long chat with ajs007 (for which I am very grateful) I felt I had the confidence to go ahead and install hardspl using the jumpspl route.
My tale of woe follows as it was unsuccessful every time...
I followed jockys instructions,
1a. download the 5 attached files
1b. connect your PC to phone with a USB cable
2. REMOVE SIM and SD CARDS !!
3. copy JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe to your device and run it (make sure the USB cable is still connected). If you still get a white screen then reset your device and now try JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe
4. after a few seconds "USB" appears on the phone display
5. unplug and replug the usb cable
6. deselect "Allow USB connections" in Activesync connection settings
7. now flash hardSPL (run KaiserCustomRUU.exe from flash-hardSPL.zip on your PC)
After step 3 (for both 1.56 & 1.93) I get the tri-colour screen (not mentioned above) shortly followed by 'USB' on the white at the bottom (step 4).
(I guess this makes it a quad colour screen instead of
I then did step 5 and step 6 as above and moved on to step 7 to run kaisercustomruu.exe.
I then get a screen which says verifying phone settings and a further screen which has 'current info about your pda phone:' and lists nothing!!
Another line that says 'image version:' and has nothing listed and yet another line that says 'select from below:' and has nothing next to it!?!?!?!?
There is a button that says update the current ROM version but I dare not press it if it is going to update with nothing!!!??
On top of all that I read contradiction again where the instructions above state that you must deselect 'allow usb connections' yet when you run kaisercustomruu.exe it states that you must have an activesync connection....
I'm now really confused and convinced it just isn't to be. Sorry Alan it did sound so easy when you explained it but there must be something different about my phone.........I'm going to throw myself or the phone or both of us off a tall building.............now Im totally depressed
Exit stage left feeling very sorry for oneself...
Looks like everything was A.O.K. for flashing..
IMPORTANT ** You didn't say if you had SPL xxx PoF on the Tri Screen ?
I didn't have any reference to a ROM on the install screen but it worked, probably because the ROM was in the same directory and it didn't need to look anywhere ....
I think (but I'm not 100%) the activesync USB connection is an XP v. Vista thing, and you do need USB connection in XP.
In summary, if you did have SPL xxx PoF on the Tri Screen you should be good to go.
From totally & utterly confused to successfully running Dutty's 6.1!!
Lots of bonus points and many thanks to AJS007 for allowing me to bother him with all my questions and lack of confidence.
Here's my tale...
Firstly I tried to install hardspl running from my PC and a USB cable but I got the infamous white screen!
I then followed the instructions for using jumpspl version 1.53 (for some reason the instructions I read didn't say remove and re-inset battery therefore I didn't do that bit!).
I got to the bit where 'USB' appears on the screen and pulled out the cable then re-inserted it. I have no idea why you do this but I did it. When I pulled the cable out the screen had 'Serial' on it and when I re-inserted it, it went back to 'USB'
I carried on to the next step and unchecked the 'Allow USB Connections' in Activesync (again I have no idea why you do this) and went on to run 'kaisercustomruu.exe'
Here's where I hesitated and got stuck. The program started on the PC and got to a point where it interrogated the phone, shortly after that I was presented with another screen that waited for my input ready to 'Update' but I hesitated since there was no information listed under 'Image Version:' and 'Select from below:'.
I wasn't sure what to do here and cancelled the whole thing in case I bricked it
After further investigation, more reading and speaking once again to my mentor AJS007, I decided to go ahead and throw what caution I had left to the wind, so I pressed the 'Update' button.
After a few more screens I got to the point of no return and gritted my teeth.........nothing happened........I disconnected and re-connected and tried again..........nothing again............after a third time though (and I don't know why) it burst into life and I got the 'percentage screen'.
At this point I did think I had trashed it but plodded on regardless in the hope that I hadn't and everything would be OK. Thankfully it was and on entering the bootloader screen I saw 'olipof'..............all was well
This gave me the extra bit of confidence I needed to go through the unlock procedure and then on to flash Dutty's latest. I did get to the point where I had to enter the unlock code and it took 2 attempts to accept it for some reason........I can't explain that either!!
It was all in all a stressful time and involved a lot of pacing up and down when the ROM was flashing, taking what seemed to be hours to complete and slowing down to an almost stop at certain points, but in the end it did all work and I am now left with a transformed T2, but with the following little problems,
1.) My bluetooth headset has to be paired every time I want to use it!
2.) When I go to re-calibrate the screen (with the cross hair) it freezes up and I have to do a soft reset.
3.) My screen 'tap' noises have disappeared (except when I press the 'start' button)
I haven't tried to reflash the radio to see if that will take care of the bluetooth issue yet but I intend to do so in the next few days.
For anyone that's interested I'm using the radio ROM that was included in Dutty's latest build (WM6.1_5.2.19209) which is 1.58.16.27.
Finally, once again my thanks to AJS007 who went to the trouble of helping me in my few hours of need.
If anyone new here would like to ask me any questions about my noobie experience please don't hold back!!
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OK I am kind of a n00b, but I thought I had this all figured out. I am currently running Faria's Crossbow version. So yes I am CID unlocked (in other words I have successfully flashed ROM's before). I wanted to go back to the base Tmoblie 2.26, but when I hook the phone up and walk through the wizard as soon as the status bar comes up for Upgranding the ROM, the phone turns off, and the software asks me to do a recovery. It looks like it is never entering bootloader mode. I have also tried to hold down the camera and press the little reset button by the IR port. Same results the phone powers off, and won't come back on until I remove the battery. Looks like there are some pretty cool ROM's here, and I just want to give them a try. I also tried Crossbow Reloaded 1.5, and the standard 3.08IPL/SPL.
My current verions are IPL/SPL 2.26 GSM 2.25.11 OS 2.18.10.
Thanks!
Hi,
First thing is if you already followed all procedures to correctly unlock your phone before doing anything here! If so, try this procedure:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294107
You can also have a look on the Wiki session!
Good luck!
bhieb said:
OK I am kind of a n00b, but I thought I had this all figured out. I am currently running Faria's Crossbow version. So yes I am CID unlocked (in other words I have successfully flashed ROM's before). I wanted to go back to the base Tmoblie 2.26, but when I hook the phone up and walk through the wizard as soon as the status bar comes up for Upgranding the ROM, the phone turns off, and the software asks me to do a recovery. It looks like it is never entering bootloader mode. I have also tried to hold down the camera and press the little reset button by the IR port. Same results the phone powers off, and won't come back on until I remove the battery. Looks like there are some pretty cool ROM's here, and I just want to give them a try. I also tried Crossbow Reloaded 1.5, and the standard 3.08IPL/SPL.
My current verions are IPL/SPL 2.26 GSM 2.25.11 OS 2.18.10.
Thanks!
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Take out your SD card. A friend of mine's phone does exactly this. As soon as you take out the SD card it goes right into bootloader mode with no issues.
It was the SD card. I forgot to take it out. Thanks!
mfrazzz said:
Take out your SD card. A friend of mine's phone does exactly this. As soon as you take out the SD card it goes right into bootloader mode with no issues.
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My phone did this last time I tried to enter bootloader, my question is why is it doing it now? I've entered bootloader with the buttons various times before.
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My phone did this last time I tried to enter bootloader, my question is why is it doing it now? I've entered bootloader with the buttons various times before.
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For my friend its specific to his SD card. I put my own SD card in his phone and he can get to the bootloader fine. He's been in the bootloader in the past with his SD card, so its seems (for him) that its specific to this particular SD card (he has a 1GB Sandisk) and something new that has happened (he had never been on a cooked rom before, only official ones from Cingular and wasn't CID unlocked when we found this issue). Don't know if it has to do with the card going bad, or amount of data on it, or what.
easiest way is turn of ur phone.while turing on the phone hold on to camera button.
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easiest way is turn of ur phone.while turing on the phone hold on to camera button.
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You are missing the point of this thread. In the situation we are discussing, that method will NOT work. The phone literally just turns off and will not go into Bootloader mode no matter what you try. If you run RUU, it just turns off (and you have to pull the battery to get it to turn back on). If you turn off the phone and hold the camera button the phone will not turn on (and again, you have to pull the battery). It refuses to go into bootloader until you pull the SD card for this specific condition.
Don't quote me, but I seem to recall my friend tried putting the phone in bootloader and it did this. I told him to pull the SD card and it instantly went into bootloader (without pressing the power button). So its like the phone was frozen waiting for something before going into bootloader. When the SD card came out it unstuck. And thats probably why the battery has to be pulled (as the phone really isn't turned off, its stuck with a screen that hasn't started).
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For my friend its specific to his SD card. I put my own SD card in his phone and he can get to the bootloader fine. He's been in the bootloader in the past with his SD card, so its seems (for him) that its specific to this particular SD card (he has a 1GB Sandisk) and something new that has happened (he had never been on a cooked rom before, only official ones from Cingular and wasn't CID unlocked when we found this issue). Don't know if it has to do with the card going bad, or amount of data on it, or what.
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Well I've been using cooked roms since like 2 months after I got my MDA (april last year + or -), so I don't think that has anything to do with my case, but I do have the same sd card as your friend, and now that I remember the other day the card wasn't being read. I had to pull it out and put it back in a few times before it was recognized again; I think I'm in the market for a new card. Just in case.
Don't know if it helps, but I have loaded 3 different ROMs fine now. In my case at least it was just the SD Card (1GB Adata I think).
On a side note sorry others are having issues too, but you guys sure make a n00b feel good. Most of the time, no matter how much I search for something, the first response to the thread is "why don't you search for it there is already a thread here <link>". Nice to finally post something that applies to others as well as myself.
Keep up the good work, great site!
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Don't know if it helps, but I have loaded 3 different ROMs fine now. In my case at least it was just the SD Card (1GB Adata I think).
On a side note sorry others are having issues too, but you guys sure make a n00b feel good. Most of the time, no matter how much I search for something, the first response to the thread is "why don't you search for it there is already a thread here <link>". Nice to finally post something that applies to others as well as myself.
Keep up the good work, great site!
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Personally I think it's in bad taste to think that just because you kinda-sort off are trying to help that people have to deal with attitude. Anytime I direct someone to a thread I try to simply give the link, and if it's a really obvious question I might kindly remind the person to use the search function. If a question really bothers me I simply don't reply; we create more clutter in threads by acting all high and mighty then obvious questions do.
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Personally I think it's in bad taste to think that just because you kinda-sort off are trying to help that people have to deal with attitude. Anytime I direct someone to a thread I try to simply give the link, and if it's a really obvious question I might kindly remind the person to use the search function. If a question really bothers me I simply don't reply; we create more clutter in threads by acting all high and mighty then obvious questions do.
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Not to clutter up this thread, but I totally concur. I've tried to take the high road the last month or so. I either give them the info they need, warn them of the dangers they are apparently ignorant of, or I just skip over the thread completely if I can't answer it without a rant
It is not as bad here as other sites. The mods have posted some really good sticky's with the FAQ's, and for the most part they are very thorough. Some people just don't want to take the time to read. Enough said we are a bit off topic now.
Thanks Again!
Hi,
I have had my HTC TyTn II from Orange UK for 3 days now, I love the phone but hate the fact that Orange have removed windows live messenger, and customised the home screen (not in a good way in my opinion!).
Here are the version numbers I see as the phone starts:
R 1.27.14.32
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.81.00.00
I have been reading up on this forum for the past few days and have decided the best way to get rid of the Orange customised screen and the lack of windows live messenger would be to flash the TyTn II with a different ROM, maybe the original HTC ROM??
Obviously my main concern is bricking my phone, and also voiding the warentee, so i'm basically looking for advice on my best course of action?
I have read that the first thing I should do is load HardSPL (which I understand is a modified bootloader?) my current bootloader versions show as: (obtained by powering up the phone with the camera button pressed)
KAIS130
SPL-1.81.0000
CPLD-8
..but won't even this first step of replacing my bootloader void my warentee, or can it be reversed?? Can I take a backup of my entire phone (including bootloader) in it's current state so that it can be restored if need be?
Can anyone give me some advice / point me in the right direction of where I should start, as I am scared of breaking my new phone, as people on other sites have said they have done!!
Thanks in advance,
Regards
Richard
Read this tread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365497
then:
Read all the wiki's and stickies for Your device (Kaiser, right).
Use Search to find out about things whick is not clear.
Best of luck!
Personally, I would go for it.
yes to hardspl
then I wouldnt settle for a stock rom - I would go for a cooked one- like dutty's.
You will void the warranty, and as far as I know there is no way back from this.
But that is what this site is all about. Ignore the #2 poster, I can see you have read all you can and you seem to have the right idea about this. So go on.
Just do all of the HardSPL steps and then install a Cooked ROM.
You won't look back. At the moment I suggest you stay away from the 6.1 ROMs until a stable one emerges.
I have an Orange Kaiser.. the branding is really crappy compared to the HTC stuff, god knows why they changed it!
Anyway, I thought I'd retain my warranty for the time being.
So I removed the Orange Home app, installed the HTC Home with 5 buttons, the HTC WMP skin, HTC Calc skin and Kaiser Tweak - all from here and it's much better now.
I expect I could save some memory and get it running a little faster without the Orange ROM, but for the time being it's fine.
Rob.
goforboy said:
Hi,
I have had my HTC TyTn II from Orange UK for 3 days now, I love the phone but hate the fact that Orange have removed windows live messenger, and customised the home screen (not in a good way in my opinion!).
Here are the version numbers I see as the phone starts:
R 1.27.14.32
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.81.00.00
I have been reading up on this forum for the past few days and have decided the best way to get rid of the Orange customised screen and the lack of windows live messenger would be to flash the TyTn II with a different ROM, maybe the original HTC ROM??
Obviously my main concern is bricking my phone, and also voiding the warentee, so i'm basically looking for advice on my best course of action?
I have read that the first thing I should do is load HardSPL (which I understand is a modified bootloader?) my current bootloader versions show as: (obtained by powering up the phone with the camera button pressed)
KAIS130
SPL-1.81.0000
CPLD-8
..but won't even this first step of replacing my bootloader void my warentee, or can it be reversed?? Can I take a backup of my entire phone (including bootloader) in it's current state so that it can be restored if need be?
Can anyone give me some advice / point me in the right direction of where I should start, as I am scared of breaking my new phone, as people on other sites have said they have done!!
Thanks in advance,
Regards
Richard
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Do it.. BUT READ EVERYTHING ON THIS FORUM FIRST RELATING TO FLASHING ROMs. Once you have read it, read it again and ensure you understand it. That way it is unlikely you will brick the device.
I had my TYTN II for a week or so and then flashed it to a new ROM... would never consider going back to the orange one...unless of course it needs to go back as a faulty device. ( there are original orange ROMs to revert back to on here if you ever need them)
It's interesting to see you have the .32 radio on yours.....Mine was shipped with .29 so I may now consider flashing my radio ROM.. how are your signal strengths and GPS lock times??
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It's interesting to see you have the .32 radio on yours.....Mine was shipped with .29 so I may now consider flashing my radio ROM.
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With what? I had the .32 and couldn't find a copy of it anywhere. I wanted to keep a backup in case of warranty return but I inadvertently flashed the wrong rom yesterday resulting in a new radio and SIM lock
Obviously removing the SIM lock was easy enough but now I can never revert back to my original radio.
The main reason I wanted to re-flash the radio was to see if my wifi problems could be resolved since most of the reports I have seen about the wifi issue relate to UK Orange phones... No luck there either and it's really starting to stress me out
Someone has told me they might have a contact at Orange dev to get a copy of the original rom but I'll believe that when I see it
Anyway, back on topic... even though I've no way to revert back my radio for warranty return, I'm glad I'm rid of the Orange bloatware and will never look back.
Duttys rom looked and felt nice but I had Bluetooth issues with that so have gone back to stock HTC rom for now. HTC home plus the Home customiser, some new icons, quickMenu and that'll do it nicely for me
One word of advice though.... after you've installed hardSPL, CID and SIM unlocked, you'll never be able to put the device down. I don't even want to think about the amount of time I've spent flashing and playing with it since then
foobar1977 said:
With what? I had the .32 and couldn't find a copy of it anywhere.
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I have seen a couple of references to it somewhere in the 248 page Dutty V4 thread. I may try and find it when I find enough time to trawl through it...search yeilds nothing sadly.
foobar1977 said:
One word of advice though.... after you've installed hardSPL, CID and SIM unlocked, you'll never be able to put the device down. I don't even want to think about the amount of time I've spent flashing and playing with it since then
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This is the most truthful thing I have ever read on here Just wait till you get HTC home customiser installed....hours upon hours of wasted productivity at my desk due to that.
Hi guys, first of all I just want to say thank you for this forum.. I ran into it a while back and was inspired to buy a kaiser just because of you guys. I have an iphone right now and I really want to replace it with something that has i don't know user accessible memory, MS office, GPS and the list goes on so I bout an At&t 8925, I got a good price on it and was very happy to finally able to get rid of the iphone
anyway I received the phone a few days ago and proceeded to do a sim unlock to use it with t-mobile after playing with it for a little while, I have already read the wiki, and lot of posts and searches..
I dnloaded this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583 and plugged in the phone made sure activesynk connected and flollowed the instructions...
It went through the first step (hard spl) without a problem and I think the second step went well also. After that I begain the third step and the program froze, I waited for almost an hour just to be sure (windows also said it was 'not responding') I finally had no choice but to restart my computer, (its vista)
Anyway I pressed the power button on the phone and the phone acts like its booting up, I see the at&t screen, then it goes to the 3g screen and It just goes to a blank, black screen. I am still able to connect it to my computer and access the phone. I can access the 'boot loader' red blue green screen
I did a soft reset and tried to reload the unlocker porgram but nothing happens, I am stuck and I havent found out what to do through my searches can you guys help me out I am really new to this phone
I even took the time to downgrade my computer from vista to XP (finding all my drivers was a ***** since my computer was shipped with vista) but I found them one by one and still no luck loading the unlocker
one thing I did notice was that the bootloader screen now says "security unlocked" on top, not sure if It did that before
Thanks for all the help
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all you have to do to fix your phone is flash a new rom onto it. just open the boot loader and run the ruu and it should fix the problem
that's because you need to install a wm6.1 rom on your phone to use this unlocker. you would have found the answer if you read the thread
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hence why I wrote a message box on Step 2 stating "you may need to upgrade your phone to WM6.1"
****ing idiots.
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oh **** how did i miss that... going to try another rom, i'll let you guys know how it goes
thanks
tman6919 said:
oh **** how did i miss that... going to try another rom, i'll let you guys know how it goes
thanks
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Thread done. Please remember to read through all instructions etc...
I think i bricked theHTC fuze that i bought yesterday I tried to do the Hard SPL but i was getting an error message, error 244 invalid model ID so i used a program to change the .nbh (a radio file) file so it bypassed the error message (by changing DIAM***** to RAPH*****, since my phone is raphael). I even got a message that the process was successfully finished but it turned out not to be true because the screen went black and now i cant turn it on, and i cant even get it into the bootloader mode. If i could at least get it into to tricolor screen i would be able to flash back the original radio and that would solve the problem because ive already done it a few times. Please let me know if there is a chance to get it fixed, even i had to send it to a professional but as long as it could be fixed, im really desperate. Thank you
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You only get that error when your trying to flash the wrong device... Did you use the file "Raphael_CDMA_HSPL_037.zip" to unlock..?? Sound's to me like you used the Diamond Unlocker... Shouldn't be that hard to fix, hold the volume down button, power button, and insert stylus into the hole on the bottom to soft reset to try and open up BL screen... LMK if that works...
Why didn't you just follow the instructions for flashing? You aren't even security unlocked, so why were you trying to flash a diamond radio? That makes no sense at all. Also, if you are security unlocked, you need to get diamond radios from the raphael forum, because they're patched to flash onto raphaels. It sounds like you got yours from the diamond forum, which is the wrong way to go (especially if it's a cdma radio-that would kill your phone for sure). Did hard spl work? If not, why on earth did you forge ahead? YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU FLASH HARD SPL!!!!!
Try pulling the battery for a while, the see if it will start up. It's hard to tell what you did, but since you went down such a wrong path, I wouldn't be surprised if the phone is a giant brick.
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by changing DIAM***** to RAPH*****
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this should've been clue #1. If you have to change it because of the device ID, it's the wrong thing to flash. The Diamond and Raph look alike on the front, but are almost totally incompatible ROM-wise.,
I even got a message that the process was successfully finished but it turned out not to be true because the screen went black and now i cant turn it on
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You are wrong there, it did flash successfully. The tools worked EXACTLY as they were designed. It's not the tools fault
Please let me know if there is a chance to get it fixed, even i had to send it to a professional but as long as it could be fixed, im really desperate. Thank you
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You might contact olipro, I hear he's got the "magic touch" with devices. No guarantees. I've heard that it's almost impossible to unbrick a device like this after an incorrect/bad radio flash.
I really hope it works out for you. Read dude, the stickies are everywhere for your benefit. Best of luck to you.
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I run into things like this DAILY. Been a service rep for over 30 years. If people would ONLY follow the instructions, I'd have less follow up work to do.
Unfortunately they make these phones too easy to hack (good for us) but sometimes noobs make it hard for the rest of us.
lol
This is what happens when you don't follow directions, don't read enough, and are monkeying with things you obviously shouldn't be monkeying with.
When you got the device ID error, you should have stopped right there and thought "gee, maybe I should go over these instructions again and see what I did wrong" instead of trying to force a radio that will never work on your device.
Hope you can get it in to bootloader, otherwise enjoy your shiny new brick.
Well, hope you get it solved and otherwise you learned a lesson in a very expensive way I'm afraid...
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Why didn't you just follow the instructions for flashing? You aren't even security unlocked, so why were you trying to flash a diamond radio? That makes no sense at all. Also, if you are security unlocked, you need to get diamond radios from the raphael forum, because they're patched to flash onto raphaels. It sounds like you got yours from the diamond forum, which is the wrong way to go (especially if it's a cdma radio-that would kill your phone for sure). Did hard spl work? If not, why on earth did you forge ahead? YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU FLASH HARD SPL!!!!!
Try pulling the battery for a while, the see if it will start up. It's hard to tell what you did, but since you went down such a wrong path, I wouldn't be surprised if the phone is a giant brick.
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I did hard SPL first with 1.90OliNex (because the one that was in the unlocking package originally didnt work beacuse of the invalid model ID message) and i thought thats what security unlocked the phone and then i tried to put a costume radio that would allow me to unlock the phone but the radio wouldnt flash. So i went back to the SPL from the unlocking package (HARD SPL 1.34) and i changed the .nbh file from DIAM***** to RAPH***** and then it bricked... The reason i did this is beacuse of the following link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-427305.html
I just hope something can still be done otherwise this is just a good warning for all others not to do this. Thank you for the replies
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You only get that error when your trying to flash the wrong device... Did you use the file "Raphael_CDMA_HSPL_037.zip" to unlock..?? Sound's to me like you used the Diamond Unlocker... Shouldn't be that hard to fix, hold the volume down button, power button, and insert stylus into the hole on the bottom to soft reset to try and open up BL screen... LMK if that works...
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No I used a gsm unlocker, HARD SPL 1.34... There is a more detailed explanation in the post above
Hard spl 1.34 is either cdma or diamond gsm-I don't know which. I do know that it will brick a gsm touch pro. Flashing the wrong hard spl is the guaranteed way to kill a phone. If you actually flashed it, the phone is dead. Try pulling the battery for a day.
You need to run the gsm raphael unlocker to security unlock your phone. You need to pay for it, too. Hard spl doesn't security unlock your phone-it only CID unlocks it.
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Hard spl 1.34 is either cdma or diamond gsm-I don't know which. I do know that it will brick a gsm touch pro. Flashing the wrong hard spl is the guaranteed way to kill a phone. If you actually flashed it, the phone is dead. Try pulling the battery for a day.
You need to run the gsm raphael unlocker to security unlock your phone. You need to pay for it, too. Hard spl doesn't security unlock your phone-it only CID unlocks it.
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I used the GSM one. Ok i just pulled out the battery and hopefully the phone allows to get it into the bootloader...
Worst case scenario, smash it and pay $100 for ur insured replacement... That is, if you have insurance...
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Worst case scenario, smash it and pay $100 for ur insured replacement... That is, if you have insurance...
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Hahahaha !
Good one !
But dude no offense but u deserve a black shiny 600$ brick because YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ! THEY ARE THERE TO BE FOLLOWED UNLESS AND UNTIL YOU ARE SO RICH THAT YOU CAN WASTE 600$ OR YOU ARE A SUPER CHEF AT XDA AND ARE SURE OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING !
Anyways Best of luck hope you can unbrick it !
otherwise smash it
Bye.
LoL yeah a $600 paper weight may also come in handy..?? Or like previously stated, take your anger out on it for not doing it right the first time lol...
I now this might be a little too late to answer,but i want to give my two cents to this brick posts. Maybe someone will need it. This is for anyone that might be where I was for over 2 weeks. I though my Fuze/ Raphael / touch pro was history. My phone will get into restart loops when ever he wanted. It was very anoying. After replacing every possible software from Radio, Hard Spl, different rooms and even start up splashes, and almost getting "ORD" in the process. I finally took my phone apart, since there was no warranty. Once open I saw that the reset bottom inside was too close to the rubber reset bottom from outside. Guess what ?? That as all it was..... Good luck to all. : )
To save a big read for you, The most Important stuff I'd like re-assurance on, is in BOLD. If you want to read it all, thats fine too.
I usually try not to ask questions, and I have done my research and I think I'm good. But The last time I tried HardSPL on my phone, I bricked it. It sucked, and I was sad. Well, its been a few months now, and I would like to throw on a Custom ROM. I dont know what exactly happend the 1st time, I dont know if i downloaded a GSM verson of HardSPL, Or if I freaked out when my screen went black and panicked and pulled the USB. (Which is what I think I did) I just dont want to make another mistake. Ive done all the android stuff, but this one scares me now. lol If someone could please verify that I have the right Unlocker For my: Verizon CDMA TP2, That would make me fell alot better. I have researched alot, and I think I'm all good, But you guys have been great, and your input is welcome. Heres the file: RhodiumW-HardSPL_V1_10R3_100HSPL.exe Which I got from: http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/hard-spl.php
The jist of it too:
1) Download to PC
2) Extract To Empty Folder On PC
3) Make sure that Phone is In SYNC MODE With Active Sync VIA USB
4) Make Sure there is an active Internet Connection.
5) Run RhodiumW-HardSPL_V1_10R3_100HSPL.exe From PC From Local Drive.
6) Follow Steps that Hard-SPL program Promts for.
7) Use automatic flash mode (unless manual needed)
8) Wait for preparing for flashing / Press OK
9) Wait for black screen, then following RUU Should launch
10) Spl Flashes, Device Reboots
11) Verify That throgh bootloader menu.
Thank you so much in advance for your patience.
you got it all right.
only thing that i should warn you about is the unlocker only allows one free unlock. If you've run the unlocker before(like you said you did), then that freebie is used up. So, just make sure you use a different computer and different internet connection this time around.
oh, and disable your antivirus and firewall before downloading the unlocker. they like to interfere with the process. When you're done unlocking your phone, you can re-enable them.
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only thing that i should warn you about is the unlocker only allows one free unlock. If you've run the unlocker before(like you said you did), then that freebie is used up. So, just make sure you use a different computer and different internet connection this time around.
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If I used an old unklocker, will it still be consider "used"? Or does it give you a new licence when you go with a newer version? And if i used the wrong unlocker, will that use up my freeie? Because I may have used a GSM, All though I'm 90% positive i didnt.
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If I used an old unklocker, will it still be consider "used"? Or does it give you a new licence when you go with a newer version? And if i used the wrong unlocker, will that use up my freeie? Because I may have used a GSM, All though I'm 90% positive i didnt.
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if you've attempted to unlock a tp2 in the past, your one free use is used up. Doesn't matter if it's old or new.
just use a different computer and internet connection to be on the safe side. If you dont care about paying 4gbp, then go ahead and try it on the same stuff. If it tells they detected you unlocked before, then your only option is to click the donate option on that screen in the unlocker.
Ok, Thank you for taking the time to reassure me. Normally, I wouldnt have 2nd guessed doing this to my phone, but one brick was enough to make me nervous. I just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a a row, and that i'm reading everything right.
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Ok, Thank you for taking the time to reassure me. Normally, I wouldnt have 2nd guessed doing this to my phone, but one brick was enough to make me nervous. I just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a a row, and that i'm reading everything right.
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you're welcome. anytime
All went perfectly. I'm a little embarrassed, just because it was so easy. Now Its time for a ROM! Thanks Again