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TomTom Nav 3 on SD Card

Hi folks,
is there a way to place TT N3 on my 512 MB SD card? Since I've got the maps on it and TT N3 is of no use without them, I just would find it logical to put them together and remove the whole lot by taking the SD out.
The BT GPS receiver software should still stay on the MDA.
Thanks

It wont work because some files are also written to the main memory even if you choose sd card as install destination.

You can move the app itself over to SD but performance suffers badly and it results in frequent lock-ups. It's not a supported configuration and best avoided.

During installation of TTN3 I installed the app on Storage Card and not in Main memory. Indeed a few items are installed on main memory, but the main app itself resides on CD Card. I have not experienced a lockup o f TTN3 during normal use.
I am a happy user of TTN3 on SD Card.
O2 XDA-I 32 MB:
ROM Version: 4.01.16 ENG
ROM Date: 02/04/04
Radio Version: 4.16.00
Protocol version: 32S54

The lockups occur most on MDAII/XDA2/Qtek2020/iMate.
It is all dependent on the max. data-transfer rate of your SD-card.
I can run from SD fine, IF I do not use POI.
BTW: I dont see the advantage for MDAII/XDA2/Qtek2020/iMate to run completely from SD. With every Hard-reset you will have to re-install because of the tiny bits that are installed in main memory.
For XDA1 I can imaginge that limited memory space is a reason.

tomtom on sd
i have tomtom on my sd!
it can be done!
The app and all components in their own folders on the sd!

From my experience installing TomTom on the SD card does not seem to work to good…

Poor performance huh!!!!
hmmm not sure about the poor performance!
Could you advise me of what I will gain by adding TomTom3 to my XDA rather than my 512mb SD card?
I would love to know what I am missing out on speed wise! :lol:

After a short amount of time TomTom just starts to slow down and then dies!! - Installing TomTom into Main Memory or Storage/ExtRom works fine...

Jimbob, are you saying that you could remove your sd card and have a complete install of tomtom 3 on it, if you try the sd in another phone/pda I think you will find errors thrown up because files will be missing.

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cruisin-thru
You are correct!
I have tried it! it works fine!
merlin_uk
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Thats not how it works!
If you had any shred of brains, you will know that processes only run as quick as the item they are running on!
As long as all other apps and utils are not running, TomTom will run at full capacity!
Dont listen to merlin_uk he knows not***************************
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JimBobUK, please remove your comments towards myself from this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=61794#61794
I was only talking from my experience... there is no need to be nasty!!
If your comments are not removed I will report this post to the moderators.
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JimBobUk, there are other ways to point out that someone is wrong. Merlin was not offensive, so no reason for you to react like that.
now for the issue:
My experience is that TomTom can lock-up IF the data transfer rates of your SD-card are not high enough. I experienced this. It has nothing to do with TomTom itself, but with the maps/poi files.
I would like to know HOW you did install tomTom on the SD card completely. When I tried it I noticed some bits that were installed in main memory. Also the registry settings are in main memory. THIS means that if you put your SD-card in another (similar) device TomTom wont work. Also, after a hard-reset TomTom wont work.
These findings were reason enough for me NOT to install TomTom itself on SD.

Our US Editor is always looking for ways to install SatNav to memory cards and leave as much precious system memory free. He has been investigating which components of TomTom can safely be installed to a memory card and which need to remain in main memory.
His findings are about to be published in a short guide he has prepared on how best to achieve this with Tomtom Navigator. It requires some work and mods to the registry and there are parts of the install that need to be left installed in main memory if you want a stable system as well as registry entries etc.
It is not possible to install every element of TomTom Navigator to SD such that transferring the card to another device will allow access to TomTom.

i will put my card in another device that does not have TT3 installed and give you the results
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So there’s no confusion, I thought I would restate my experiences when installing and using TomTom 3 on an SD Storage Card…
When installing TomTom, for the application I specified that the installed location would be the SD Storage Card. Installation went smoothly and the following components were installed as follows:
Installed onto the SD Storage Card:
TomTom Navigator Voice
TomTom Navigator
Installed into Main Memory:
TomTom Wizard
TomTom GPS
What happens is that the components TomTom Navigator Voice and TomTom Navigator get installed on to the target specified during installation and components TomTom Wizard and TomTom GPS always get installed into Main Memory.
I then install the TomTom Maps on to the SD Storage Card.
The above installation all seemed to worked perfectly… but what I was finding was that when using TomTom in the car and after some time driving, TomTom seemed to slow down… what I mean by this is that the refreshing of the screen slowed down and began to become jerky… some time after this the device would hang which meant doing a soft reset (a little difficult when driving!!)
So I uninstalled TomTom and then reinstalled it, but this time I stated that the installed location for the application would be Main Memory, which meant that only the TomTom Maps would be installed onto the SD Storage Card. By doing this, it all seemed to fix the problem for me…. at the time I did not have time to investigate the reasons why I was having these problems, I just needed to have a working version of TomTom that I could rely on in the car.
The problem could not be anything to do with the number of processes running as I always made a point of closing everything first before running TomTom. Also if it was a process problem, then this would have affected TomTom irrespective of whether it was run from Main Memory or Storage Card.
My conclusion at the time was that it was not going to be suitable for me to run TomTom from the SD Storage Card, and therefore decided to install to Main Memory instead. This has recently changed, however, and I now run TomTom 3 from my Extended Rom which all seems to work great and frees up my Main Memory.
I hope this clarifies my experiences with TomTom 3.

Has anyone else got problems recieving phone calls whilst using TTN3 ?, my phone wont ring whilst TTN3 is running and i seem to miss all my calls,
Is there a solution to this at all ?
Cheers

merlin_uk said:
I now run TomTom 3 from my Extended Rom which all seems to work great and frees up my Main Memory.
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Probably a silly question, but how did u install TT3 to ur X. ROM?
Smiley

smiley_thing69 said:
Probably a silly question, but how did u install TT3 to ur X. ROM? Smiley
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When you run the installer you choose 'Storage Card' rather than 'Main Memory' but this does not install everything to storage card.
We will be publishing an in-depth guide to how to move everything that can be safely run from the storage card shortly at PocketGPSWorld. There are a few small files that need to be left in main memory to ensure stability.

smiley_thing69 said:
Probably a silly question, but how did u install TT3 to ur X. ROM?
Smiley
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I used the ExtendedRom Unlocker to gain access to the ExtRom, the download can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=567
I then copied the content from the ExtRom to my SD Storage Card and then deleted everything from the ExtRom.
When reinstalling TomTom you should now be able to select the ExtendedRom as the target installation location...

TomTom SD Card Install?
Hello,
Does anyone know whether it's possible to put an install for Tom Tom onto an SD Card?
I've got to install TT onto like 70 M1000s then ship them out. I'm concerned that the battery may die in transit and main memory will be wiped. In which case TT will need re-installing :evil:
I've gotta get an activation code for each copy of TT before installing it onto the M1000 and the install takes over 30mins
With activesync I'm not able to install it onto more than one unit at any one time but if I could copy the files direct to SD card and run the install from there I could save myself a lot of time and hassle! Plus if the battery runs out I could fire up the install and everything would be sweet.
My concern is putting the install onto the SD card and passing the activation code to it.
If anyone knows an answer to this I'd be grateful for some pointers!
Thanks

TomTom 5.2 crashes to desktop

Hi,
I'm able to run Tomtom 5.2 succesfully on my Qtek 8310, however it crashes out to the desktop very often.
I used to have a Qtek 2020 with Tomtom 3 and had the same problem until I changed the Sandisk SD card 1GB to a Transcend one (faster reading). Could this be the same problem ?
It puzzles me because the Sandisc mini-sd 1GB ran fine om my Motorola MPX 220 smartphone (Windows Mobile 4.2).
Anyone having the same problem ?

Yes, I'm having exactly the same problem and have so far been unable to come up with a fix.
I'm using an O2 XDA IQ with a Holux GPSlim236 BT GPS unit, version 5.2 of TomTom Mobile & a 1GB SanDisk mini SD.
Anyone have any pointers for us please?

Yes, I'm having exactly the same problem and have so far been unable to come up with a fix.
I'm using an O2 XDA IQ with a Holux GPSlim236 BT GPS unit, version 5.2 of TomTom Mobile & a 1GB SanDisk mini SD.
Anyone have any pointers for us please?

Hello,
I managed to fix the problem by removing some programs from the phones' memory. I installed Clearvue OfficeSuite in the phones' memory and read somewhere in the forums that lack of memory could be a source of problems. I will do some more testing and keep you posted. Anyway I ordered a Transcend 80x 1GB miniSD at a local distributor (Belgium) for 31€, just to make sure.

Glad you got it sorted out!
When you say you removed some programs from the phone's memory, do you mean the Storage or Program memory?
At present all the progrms on mine have been installed to the storage card with the exception of a couple of very small utilities and ring tones.
Current memeory data is like this:
Storage memory: 17.95MB
Used: 16.83MB (pim.vol is 7.7MB of this)
Free: 1.06MB
Program Memory: 45.05MB
Used: 24.44MB
Free: 20.61MB
Could the low amount of available storage memory be the problem?
Do you have any other suggestions?

My program memory is about the same, but my storage is much higher, I have about 11MB free. I could be your problem.
Maybe following link could help you redirect your pim.vol (which is outlook I think) to your SD also and help you save storage memory.
www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=858861
I'll have another 30 min testdrive this evening from work to my house and see whether it crashes. I worked perfectly yesterday, after removing Clearvue.
Hope this helps you.

Sorry the thread explaining this is here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38719

12 MB still not enough?
I have exactly the same problem as described here on my QTEK 8300.
I tried several GPS receivers, and I upgraded my ROM (AKU2), but that didn't change anything.
Based on the previous postings I tried to free up some memory, so I ended up with:
free storage memory: 12.13 MB
free program memory: 22.46 MB
Unfortunately, the problem has not disappeared.
Apparently 12 MB free storage memory is still not enough.
Has anybody been able to identify how much free memory is enough to run Tom Tom Mobile 5.21 on a QTEK 8300?
Has anybody been able to run Tom Tom Mobile 5.21 successfully on a QTEK 8300/8310 at all? Or is that simply impossible?
SVL... you suggested that 11 MB of free memory should be enough.
Was your testdrive successful?
So far I have never been able to use Tom Tom for more than 10 minutes.....
Gerard

Hi,
been away for a few days sorry for the late reply.
To answer your question yes I've been able to use it for over 30 minutes during my testing. I will leave on holiday 31 july by car to France so I'll be able to do some more testing.
My problem got solved by deinstalling Clearvue Officesuite from main memory, using a more recent BENELUX - map and deselecting POI's.
So it could be one of these three or all three together which made it work, I don't know. I don't really need POI's but I will test it out when I receive my Transcend mini-SD card.
Good luck,
SVL

Hi all,
I've managed to solve the problem and have successfully used TomTom Mobile 5 on my O2 XDA IQ! I've tested it over a few journeys now and it operates without a hitch.
First of all, I upgraded my MiniSD to a high speed card but this made no difference. I then uninstalled a number of applications (including the Clearview Suite) to try and free up some more memory, with no success. Every time I tried to run TomTom it would crash after just a few seconds.
Next I did a cold reset on the device (Clear Storage) and installed just TomTom on the new high speed memory card and the problem persisted! I started to suspect some fundamental incompatibility with the device and after a little research stumbled across a registry hack which removed the Smartphone application locking. I tried it out on a hunch and presto! TomTom ran flawlessly!
So, here’s what I did in order to get TomTom Mobile 5 working on my O2 XDA IQ:
(i) Used “Checklock.exe” (found at Smartphone.net) to see if my Smartphone was application locked.
(ii) It was, so I used PHM RegEdit, to remove the XDA IQ application locking by making the following registry changes:
(a) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies\00001001 = 2
> Change the value data from “2” to “1”
(b) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies\00001005 = 16
> Change the value data from “16” to “40”
(c) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies\00001017 = 128
> Change the value data from “128” to “144”
(d) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Security\Policies\Policies
> Add new Dword value: "0000101b" Dword = “1”
(iii) Rebooted XDA IQ.
(iv) Used "Checklock.exe" again to check that the phone was not locked any more.
(v) Inserted my TomTom MiniSD card, TomTom automatically installed OK.
(vi) Made sure I had the “Currentmap.dat” file in the “\My Documents\TomTom” directory of the device and not the storage card.
(vii) Bonded my Holux GPSlim236 Bluetooth GPS receiver with my XDA IQ. During this process I changed the name of the device from the default to “GPS” (apparently the last three characters of the device name must be "GPS" for TomTom to recognise it) and assigned Outbound COM port 6 to it.
(vii) Made sure that the phone was switched on when running TomTom (it doesn’t appear to work if the phone is turned off).
(ix) Used it to navigate to the office and back.
(x) Held a party to celebrate!
Can't believe it was that hard, it almost seems like it's been designed not to work!
Anyway, hope this is useful to you all, please feedback your findings!
SW

POIs and Tomtom do not go together in a QTEk 8300.....
After the last post from SVL I realized that I had selected some POI's.
I tried to deselect POIs, but TomTom crashed eveytime before I could exit the proram myself, so my changes were not saved...
Finally I restarted my smartphone by shortly disconnecting the battery, and I managed to deselect the POIs and exit TomTom myself.
Result: .... Today I was able to successfully use TomTom Mobile on my QTEK 8300 for more than 40 minutes. That's promising!
It means that I do not need the registry tweaks, and that 11 MB of free storage memory seems to be enough to run TomTom Mobile on a QTEK 8300, as long as you don't use the POIs.
I still wonder what is the reason that using the POIs makes TomTom instable on a QTEK 8300. Has anybody ever used TomTom Mobile including selected POis successfully on a QTEK 8300?
I will keep testing TomTom mobile on my QTEK 8300 in the coming weeks.
Would a faster memorycard solve the issue with POIs?
I'm using a standard Kindston Mini SD card of 1 GB at this moment...
Gerard

Hi all...I had a magician with the same problem....there were lots of forum comments on it but the best solution people came up with was to remove all the POI's from being viewed on the screen.
You can still navigate to a POI but not have them on the display.
This seemed to fix mine (and a couple of my mates problems) so assume it's same for SP5
Cheers

QTEK 8300 and Tom Tom Mobile
I have now used TomTom on my QTEK 8300 for a couple of hours.
As long as I do not show the POIs it is perfectly stable.
As soon as I want to see POIs the system crashes (maximum time before crash was 7 minutes, but most of the times it crashes immediately).
Memory does not seem to have an impact. The system worked perfectly with only 7 MB of free storage memory, and 13 MB of free program memory.
so... the conclusion is simple.... the POIs are causing the problem.
Now the interesting question is: what can I do to make the system stable even with the POIs ?
Or is that simply impossible?

had same problem with xda2i found this fix
it could possibly work for yours
http://www.johnsreviews.com/howtos/o2xda2itomtomworkaround.html

POIs need be washed
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15715&whichpage=2
with this
http://www.tomtom.com/support/ce/support/ov2/ov2tools.zip

PHM Reg Edit says 'Access Denied'! Help!
I am trying to change the registry settings on my XDA IQ to remove the application locking so things like Tom Tom can run freely as suggested by SVL/scallywagger but when I use PHM Reg Edit it simply states 'access denied' when I try to change a registry value.
Can anybody help me with this please? I am currently TomTom less and getting lost regularly!

I managed to solve this problem by copying the "TomTom" Directory containing the exe and all dll's to "program files/TomTom" on the phone's internal memory (keeping the map files on the storage card).
I assume that it can access the files faster of the internal memory and thats why its not crashing anymore.
Although my 1gig card is meant to be fast (Sandisk UltraII mini)! im just glad its working and Im not getting lost or having to reboot mid-journey.

At ST16:
Try this link for accessing the registry. It worked on my 8310:
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=240179

Self signed root cert.
Only slightly related but I was able to use Scallywagger's registry hack to app unlock my IQ. This then enabled me to install a self signed certficate for our email server thus allowing push email!
I spent 1 hour on the phone to O2 trying to sort this!
Thanks again Scallywagger!

tomtom install
copy tomtom to the mcard then put mcard in the phone then start the cab files from the phone had to do this xda mini hope this might help

tomtom and destinator on kaiser

just a quick one. is it possible to install tomtom and destinator to my phones memory and then just have the maps on the sd card? just i have only got a 512 card at the min and they both dont fit on there (only need about another 30 mbs!) i use and like tomtom but i just want to test out another gps software to see how its copmpaired.
cheers people

TomTom can't find maps

Hello
I've installed TomTom 6 and downloaded USA and Canada maps and copied to Storage Card.
After runing TomTom 6, it couldn't find any map although I have USA and Canada maps in my storage card.
What's wrong?
Thanks

Tomtom is a bit specific where the maps have to be.
The maps have to be in a folder one level deep now more no less. they cant in the root of the card or in say \TT6\maps\.
Worse comes to worse try using the tomtom home application to install the maps.

iGo8 question?

Hi everyone
im thinking about buying igo8 nav..
i do have some questions, i hope you can answer:
1) under their homepage it says Important! Please, be advised that the software runs only on the original SD memory card. --
what does this exactly mean? iv bought a 16gb SDcard, does this not work if i install the igo8 to this? or can it only be installed with the 2gb sdcard wích came with the phone???
2) is there anywhere i can buy the program and DOWNLOAD it? or do i have to find a shop in my own country (Denmark) and get it?
3) should i buy copilot live 8? instead of igo8???
thanks on advance