According to this page on the Opera website, Opera Mini 5 is "coming soon".
And in addition, twitter.com/opera says
Opera Mini 5 coming really soon: http://tinyurl.com/peu9fq
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The tinyurl link in the twitter post leads to a blog posting made by an Opera employee, saying:
Wanna know what's coming really soon?
Before the weekend a teaser on www.opera.com/next appeared. It was claiming that "The next generation in mobile browsing" is coming very soon. The product is Opera Mini 5 and a beta is coming very, very soon. Good times, good times...
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It seems that Opera Mini 5 is close at hand, though currently there are no details concerning new features, improvements, changes, etc., so it seems we're still in the dark for the most part.
But for all of you who regularly use Opera Mini, looks like you're in luck.
If this has been posted before, feel free to delete it
I use Opera Mini. As far as I'm concerned, it's the perfect mobile browser. However, I nonetheless have to admit that it's difficult to get excited about Opera Mini 5 if there are no details.
8525Smart said:
I use Opera Mini. As far as I'm concerned, it's the perfect mobile browser. However, I nonetheless have to admit that it's difficult to get excited about Opera Mini 5 if there are no details.
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Agree. Somebody has to have some ideas of improvements
A better download/upload manager would be nice.
Operamini, to be perfect, only needs tabs support
It needs better finger scrolling for touch screen devices.
8525Smart said:
I use Opera Mini. As far as I'm concerned, it's the perfect mobile browser. However, I nonetheless have to admit that it's difficult to get excited about Opera Mini 5 if there are no details.
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Yes, I thought the same. But now I already use the 5 beta and I have to say it is really cool and definitely a improvement.
It's faster, more finger-friendly, has multi-tabbing and a quick favourite-starter. Great browser!
how can i get www browsing like safari and ipod touch? it really sucks in winmo and every browser ive tried. i have to tap links many times to load and scrolling is terrible. double tapping space bar when typing like here doesnt add a .. no auto correction whwn typing. page zom kinda sucks too. scrolling and zooming is very slow jerky and not accurate. all this is a horrable experience. what can i do to make it better?
thanks so much
As much as I'd like to give you a better answer, until Skyfire optimizes the browser for the TP2, we're stuck with jagged (Skyfire) or no flash (Opera) options...
Skyfire should release something new soon for the 800x600 screens though...
--Opera
Supposedly you can get Opera Mini to work with Flash. I had it working one time, but then I tried update something and it broke it. I'm not messing with it anymore until the thing is unlocked and I can reflash ROMs to it.
O.P, i'm so with you on this one. It's almost as if you read my mind. Do you know that most times, i turn on WMWifirouter and tether my iPod Touch because the web browsing on it is eons better than on Win Mobile.
The one and only gripe i've ever had against Win Mo has been the terrible browsers and bad webpage renderings.
I think it's the combination of the not so great Qualcomm MSM processor and Opera Mobile's general resource-hungry crappiness that sucks. I'm so down right now.
I read on some other site about some farrrrrr outtttttt rumor that the snapdragon HTC Leo/Touch HD2 might be coming to Sprint around christmas time (codenamed Adonis...or something). I'll see if this rumor gains traction within 30 days and offload my TP2.
I want good www on my tp2 for when I am not able to use my iPod touch and for downloading to the tp2. I don't care one bit about flash. I don't want flash ads and don't use flash except the sites that totally require it on my MacBook pro.
I'm totally desperate to have good www on my tp2.
Nopefully that will be one of the main improvements we get with 6.5. IF we get 6.5.
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Nopefully that will be one of the main improvements we get with 6.5. IF we get 6.5.
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We *are* getting 6.5 and it's looking like it will be soon. But, even if the manufacturers failed us on the update, cmonex will shortly deliver HardSPL and you'll have whatever you want.
As for the web browser, a webkit-based browser is currently in the making for winmo devices: http://www.dorothybrowser.com/?pn=home
EDIT: I decided to install this and see where they stand. The browser is actually pretty nice and has some real promise.
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As much as I'd like to give you a better answer, until Skyfire optimizes the browser for the TP2, we're stuck with jagged (Skyfire) or no flash (Opera) options...
Skyfire should release something new soon for the 800x600 screens though...
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Get Opera 9.7 35461 and download Fixoperaflash. Opera 9.7 IS FAST!!!!! It has some cool features and stuff too. And super fast panning and zooming.
9.7 is total crud. I've tried it as I said I tried every browser and tapping on links is not good nor is speed/scrolling and pages don't look nearly as they should. I wish someone would make a www browser and have a forum we can post feedback on and they listen and implement changes. Cus if they did what I and I'm sure all you guys want then www would be great. Mostly I mean performance and formatting pages.
Well the 9.7 build I tried was crud. Don't know if it's the same as you mention but I am guessing it is. Unless a new build came in the last 2 weeks that makes major improovments.
buggs1a said:
how can i get www browsing like safari and ipod touch? <cut out whining> what can i do to make it better?
thanks so much
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Buy an iPhone.
How many threads are you going to make about this topic?
-Daniel
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Buy an iPhone.
How many threads are you going to make about this topic?
-Daniel
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Thank you.
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I have to say that I am just wowed at the RTM version of Windows Phone Mango. I know that the drivers are not optimized for my Dell Venue Pro due to me forcing the RTM and I know that most of you dislike WP7 but WOW. It is undoubtedly even smoother than iOS and certainly beats out the smoothness of android. I didn't think you could get smoother than iOS as the hardware is built for the OS all by the same company but kudos to windows for how amazing a job they've done. The facebook, twitter, and linkedin integration clearly exceeds the social network integration of any other OS and the gaming is just amazing. I know iOS currently has us beat in that department but with Microsofts uncanny ability to throw infinite funds at whatever the hell they need to I don't see that being an issue for too long. Aside from that the OS is buttery smooth, the market place is filling fast, it's got everything an OS needs and then some and of all the OSes I've tried on the hundreds of devices I've had, I'm in love.
My brother has a Dell Venue Pro and he's had a hell of a lot of issues with it. He just finally managed to update it to the latest version the other day so I don't know if it's managed to iron out any of the issues yet.
So what I was wondering is have you had any issues with yours? And what about after updating it to Mango?
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I have to say that I am just wowed at the RTM version of Windows Phone Mango. I know that the drivers are not optimized for my Dell Venue Pro due to me forcing the RTM and I know that most of you dislike WP7 but WOW. It is undoubtedly even smoother 1 than iOS and certainly beats out the smoothness 2 of android. I didn't think you could get smoother 3 than iOS as the hardware is built for the OS all by the same company but kudos to windows for how amazing a job they've done. The facebook, twitter, and linkedin integration clearly exceeds the social network integration of any other OS and the gaming is just amazing. I know iOS currently has us beat in that department but with Microsofts uncanny ability to throw infinite funds at whatever the hell they need to I don't see that being an issue for too long. Aside from that the OS is buttery smooth 4, the market place is filling fast, it's got everything an OS needs and then some and of all the OSes I've tried on the hundreds of devices I've had, I'm in love.
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Wow its smooth. Who cares? Its also ugly as hell, has annoying transitions (giving you your illusion of smoothness) and is incrdibly boring. My phone is smooth, (Even American Android ROM on SD is amazing) Runs multiple operating systems, has the benefit of multiple marketplaces, and other app sources as well as multi platform games. (from classic pc games to console emulators to mobile time wasters) is fully customisable, and most importantly IS FUN!!!!!!! The only downside is the battery life. (1 day on SD android which is fair enough as I have livewallpaper and tonnes of widgets) When microsoft produces a comparable phone please let me know, but untill then have fun scrolling around your boring menus smoothly.
lol, the op is a funny guy. He hates android and then goes fanboy on wp7.
I run wp7 on my hd2 myself, running YukiXDA's v5 NoDo, and its ok, it's not as great as Android and I do feel rather limited with the tiles and simplistic menus..
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Wow its smooth. Who cares? Its also ugly as hell, has annoying transitions (giving you your illusion of smoothness) and is incrdibly boring. My phone is smooth, (Even American Android ROM on SD is amazing) Runs multiple operating systems, has the benefit of multiple marketplaces, and other app sources as well as multi platform games. (from classic pc games to console emulators to mobile time wasters) is fully customisable, and most importantly IS FUN!!!!!!! The only downside is the battery life. (1 day on SD android which is fair enough as I have livewallpaper and tonnes of widgets) When microsoft produces a comparable phone please let me know, but untill then have fun scrolling around your boring menus smoothly.
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Ugly as hell? No offense but what the **** are you smoking? WP7 is hands down the best looking mobile OS on the market. It makes iOS and Android look archaic and stale by comparison.
Android has it beat on features and app count, but as for usability? NOTHING approaches the usefulness or beauty of WP7. It's UI design is award winning for a reason--because it's great .
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lol, the op is a funny guy. He hates android and then goes fanboy on wp7.
I run wp7 on my hd2 myself, running YukiXDA's v5 NoDo, and its ok, it's not as great as Android and I do feel rather limited with the tiles and simplistic menus..
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There's no doubt Android is the more customizable OS with the bigger app catalog, but there's nothing "simplistic" about Live Tiles--they blow icons AND widgets out of the water, especially in Mango.
There's little question that WP7 is still in its infancy, but MS nailed the user interface dead on, and with Mango it only got better (ran an iPhone for 2+ years and run Gingerbread on a rooted Nook--I like 'Droid, it's a great OS, but WP7's UI is simply superior).
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Wow its smooth. Who cares? Its also ugly as hell, has annoying transitions (giving you your illusion of smoothness) and is incrdibly boring. My phone is smooth, (Even American Android ROM on SD is amazing) Runs multiple operating systems, has the benefit of multiple marketplaces, and other app sources as well as multi platform games. (from classic pc games to console emulators to mobile time wasters) is fully customisable, and most importantly IS FUN!!!!!!! The only downside is the battery life. (1 day on SD android which is fair enough as I have livewallpaper and tonnes of widgets) When microsoft produces a comparable phone please let me know, but untill then have fun scrolling around your boring menus smoothly.
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yup, your phone is smooth on wp7, runs 1 good OS and a few laggy ones with vast marketplaces, emulates (which is admittedly nice but with real high quality games on your OS who needs em?), is customizable, but regardless of customization will be laggy and ill-responsive, and if you're a crack flasher its fun. I like spending my time using my phone, not putting a new rom on it on a daily basis. I'll let you know that many years ago Microsoft released winmo5, it does all you apparently need minus the vast marketplace full of low quality apps and malware. Enjoy using a broken UI, I'll enjoy having a UI that moves when I want it to.
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My brother has a Dell Venue Pro and he's had a hell of a lot of issues with it. He just finally managed to update it to the latest version the other day so I don't know if it's managed to iron out any of the issues yet.
So what I was wondering is have you had any issues with yours? And what about after updating it to Mango?
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the device had more than its fair share of issues before the official dell update, shotty camera, random reboots, and crappy connection all on account of poor drivers made by dell, now it's astounding. Mango just improved it, you won't find a smoother device out there.
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Wow its smooth. Who cares? Its also ugly as hell, has annoying transitions (giving you your illusion of smoothness) and is incrdibly boring. My phone is smooth, (Even American Android ROM on SD is amazing) Runs multiple operating systems, has the benefit of multiple marketplaces, and other app sources as well as multi platform games. (from classic pc games to console emulators to mobile time wasters) is fully customisable, and most importantly IS FUN!!!!!!! The only downside is the battery life. (1 day on SD android which is fair enough as I have livewallpaper and tonnes of widgets) When microsoft produces a comparable phone please let me know, but untill then have fun scrolling around your boring menus smoothly.
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Its not ugly, its bold and informative.
Its not annoying transitions, its dynamic.
Its not boring, its simplistic and intuitive.
Your phone is laggy. Androids are laggy, even with supercalifragilisticexpialidocious hardware.
What's the point of running multiple OS's when you're not gonna use them all at the same time.
Emulators are lame, it can't beat the real thing.
Full customization means endless possibilities of making your phone look so good its wasting time, wasting time = waste of battery -> waste of money.
Its not fun because its laggy and ugh and yuck and spit.
Microsoft already went there, the most recent version of Windows Mobile that can be compared to andr-yuck is Windows Mobile 6.5, and then Microsoft moved on to WP7.
Have fun playing and flashing your phone.
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yup, your phone is smooth on wp7, runs 1 good OS and a few laggy ones with vast marketplaces, emulates (which is admittedly nice but with real high quality games on your OS who needs em?), is customizable, but regardless of customization will be laggy and ill-responsive, and if you're a crack flasher its fun. I like spending my time using my phone, not putting a new rom on it on a daily basis. I'll let you know that many years ago Microsoft released winmo5, it does all you apparently need minus the vast marketplace full of low quality apps and malware. Enjoy using a broken UI, I'll enjoy having a UI that moves when I want it to.
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Ummm, that's going too far. Android is a great OS. It's UI is nowhere near as good as WP7's, but that doesn't make it a bad OS. Just a stale one
I sooo love the "Android is laggy" crowd. They're cute.
"Who cares about features, WP7 is smooooooooooooooth. Weeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!1111"
Erm, yeah, so is my CM7 (and I could swear the Eclair my phone came with was too).
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There's no doubt Android is the more customizable OS with the bigger app catalog, but there's nothing "simplistic" about Live Tiles--they blow icons AND widgets out of the water, especially in Mango.
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But it is just so boring, and yes, bloody ugly.
Why did MS get it's inspiration from a kid's toy? They sent out WP7's made of Lego so even MS think it looks blocky and dull. Heck they had to blackmail their staff into using WP7 handsets.
I'm sure there are a few people who are into lists and excessive scrolling, I'm one of the majority who aren't.
I do feel it's good that minority products are made though to cater for such interests.
Incidentally, have they fix the issue with listening to movies over Bluetooth with the Mango update or is it still lacking that basic feature?
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the device had more than its fair share of issues before the official dell update, shotty camera, random reboots, and crappy connection all on account of poor drivers made by dell, now it's astounding. Mango just improved it, you won't find a smoother device out there.
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I think he's had more problems than just that; he can't even use the marketplace! Thanks for the reply though, might be able to convince him to get the beta even if he does have a tendency to avoid anything "not official". I'm currently just trying to keep my Omnia 7 unlocked (having problems with updating the diagnosis tool).
I'm going to avoid the fanboy flamewar that's started on this thread, though I will say that as much as I do love my WP7, I would like to get an Android alongside it. As for the iOS, well...I had an iTouch which I loved (sold it recently to get an upgrade), but I would never get it as a phone.
One thing's for sure though: They all have their pros and cons; they're all far from "perfect".
Gusar321 said:
I sooo love the "Android is laggy" crowd. They're cute.
"Who cares about features, WP7 is smooooooooooooooth. Weeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!1111"
Erm, yeah, so is my CM7 (and I could swear the Eclair my phone came with was too).
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one more updated android phone will always seem smoother than its predecessor but in comparison to a hardware accelerated UI they just aren't. I care quite a bit about features and with the release of Mango I have tons of features that I would've spent days finding on xda and the marketplace just to have a comparable device. These features are all right out of the box.
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one more updated android phone will always seem smoother than its predecessor but in comparison to a hardware accelerated UI they just aren't. I care quite a bit about features and with the release of Mango I have tons of features that I would've spent days finding on xda and the marketplace just to have a comparable device. These features are all right out of the box.
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erm coulda i swear cm7 is smooth, and if ya didn't know gingerbread android is hardware-accelerated, could be better, but it is .
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erm coulda i swear cm7 is smooth, and if ya didn't know gingerbread android is hardware-accelerated, could be better, but it is .
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No idea where you're getting your information from but it's wrong... Samsung has modified it with the GS2 to make it about 90 percent hardware accelerated but that's about it...
I run MIUI with a custom kernel that is underclocked to .8 and it runs smooth as butter. Plus, its entirely themeable so if the UI gets boring, just switch it. I also get almost 2 days of battery with mild use. WP7 is cool but I think it still has a lot of catching up to do.
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But it is just so boring, and yes, bloody ugly.
Why did MS get it's inspiration from a kid's toy? They sent out WP7's made of Lego so even MS think it looks blocky and dull. Heck they had to blackmail their staff into using WP7 handsets.
I'm sure there are a few people who are into lists and excessive scrolling, I'm one of the majority who aren't.
I do feel it's good that minority products are made though to cater for such interests.
Incidentally, have they fix the issue with listening to movies over Bluetooth with the Mango update or is it still lacking that basic feature?
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I don't find it dull at all. I see where it could be, if you lumped all your same color tiles together, but I stagger them out and pin other apps with colorful live tiles to my start screen and it ends up looking very nice.
But issue #1 is simple usability. WP7 has it in spades, Android and iOS don't, at least not to the same degree. And as a 2+ year iPhone user and current iPad and Android on Nook user, I'll tell you this: I spend FAR less time scrolling in WP7 than in either of the other OS's.
As for A2DP, it works fine for me and always has.
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CM7 IS smooth, and it's a very nice OS. But it's not as smooth or as fast as WP7, especially Mango.
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I run MIUI with a custom kernel that is underclocked to .8 and it runs smooth as butter. Plus, its entirely themeable so if the UI gets boring, just switch it. I also get almost 2 days of battery with mild use. WP7 is cool but I think it still has a lot of catching up to do.
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I agree that it has some catching up to do in the feature set, but Mango really does get it about 90% of the way there. It's removed every major ***** I had early on (and I had a lot ), and added features I didn't think I would care about but turned out to be fantastic. I truly can't see myself switching off WP going forward ever again.
It's great and I am enjoying it so much that I do not really care about Android! Does that make me strange or what?
Nope ! I have dual boot on mine, and never boot into Android ! I had a galaxy tab 10.1, was nice, but prefer webos
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I had a Transformer and got rid of it when I got my touchpad. I love the webOS!
the only reason I am using Android on the TP is because there are no PDF notation apps available (like ezPDF reader or repligo). One other reason is a note taking software with handwriting capabilities such as freenote+.
other then these two I am mostly in webos. the biggest reason being the poor battery life in android at the moment.
I'm in the same category here. I have mine dual-booted, but rarely EVER boot to Android. In fact short of Netflix & maybe a couple other apps not available on the HP side, I LOVE webOS.....even to the tune of buying a couple little apps from HP that would've had a free counterpart for Android.
Mind you, I'm still waiting for video to be fixed to make the ICS jump, but still.....webOS is entirely underappreciated.
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the only reason I am using Android on the TP is because there are no PDF notation apps available (like ezPDF reader or repligo). One other reason is a note taking software with handwriting capabilities such as freenote+.
other then these two I am mostly in webos. the biggest reason being the poor battery life in android at the moment.
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Dunno about PDF-notation, although I would think it's in Picsel Smart Office.
Handwriting apps are available on webOS. I currently use Doodle Pad. It's not feature-rich but not basic either. For 2,99 it's a great catch. Also, NuttyBunny is working on a feature-rich handwriting app. But there are a few more in the App Catalog, so that shouldn't be a problem.
I remember using my HTC Diamond and finally getting Android on it. Occasionally I had to boot back into windows mobile and I found the experience so disconcerting... Android seemed to just "behave" the way I wanted my phone to behave.
Now I feel the same way about WebOS. I boot into WebOS to use Skype and it feels like such a relief. I still use Android as my daily, but there is always a tinge of regret when I have to go back to Android.
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Dunno about PDF-notation, although I would think it's in Picsel Smart Office.
Handwriting apps are available on webOS. I currently use Doodle Pad. It's not feature-rich but not basic either. For 2,99 it's a great catch. Also, NuttyBunny is working on a feature-rich handwriting app. But there are a few more in the App Catalog, so that shouldn't be a problem.
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to me this is still a problem. Doing just the basic of doodling is not enough for me. the apps available right now in webos are just that. and if you follow the Nuttybunny thread it apparently has been abandoned.
and there is no pdf notation in either of the office packages either.
still waiting...
I love it too
Sometimes I seat back and wonder why WebOs is so under appreciated, I think the media has a big part to play in its demise (or is it?). Safe for the lack of apps, my TP simply stunning and I can say this because, I have Ipad, Iphone, and Galaxy note. But I just can't bear to sell my TP. I still hope it will not be a souvenir.
I agree. I still use my Touchpad on a daily basis. It's much easier to use than an Asus tablet I have.
Check the webOSNation forums, there's a PDF markup app in alpha or beta right now.
Beyond that, I dualboot, but only to run Ubuntu. Ditched the Android partition a while ago. Much prefer webOS on a daily basis.
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Love webOS but lack of apps
You're not strange for loving webOS. The interface is nothing short of beautiful and user friendly. The gestures make it that much better. I've got ICS loaded on mine and usually the only reason I spend more time in ICS is because of the apps.
When I registered my TP, I made the mistake of being honest and entering my actual location (Austria) when I opened the App Catalog. I don't know why, but I can't see any Paid apps and even the selection of free apps is pretty sad
But I've managed to get Kindle installed under webOS and Skype works a charm. I'm loving the fact I can use the TP as an oversized desk/speakerphone when I pair it with my DHD. The sounds quality in webOS is also pretty brilliant in comparison to ICS.
Like I said, if it weren't for the restriction on Apps for my region, I would be logged into webOS almost permanently.