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how to make the touch pro as smooth as an iphone

iphone speed and scrolling is very impressing. is there anyway to speed up the touch pro to get such speeds ?

To be honest, I don't think the iPhone is as fast as it seems. Part of the loading time is masked in the animations it uses (like when you touch an icon, it takes a little bit of time to expand teh window). It's fast, but not as fast as everyone thinks it is.
But regardless, the touch pro probably won't be as fast and smooth as the iphone, but try flashing a custom rom like Energy rom. It's built to be really fast. And having WM 6.5 gives smoother scrolling (not as good as the iphone though).

FireGX said:
To be honest, I don't think the iPhone is as fast as it seems. Part of the loading time is masked in the animations it uses (like when you touch an icon, it takes a little bit of time to expand teh window). It's fast, but not as fast as everyone thinks it is.
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but you still have to admire the research/QA/testing they went through to make the iPhone seem as fast as possible...
that saying, you won't get that with WM... WM, apps share memory/processing power(while in iPhone, only ONE app gets all the resources at a time, except the music player that Apple can optimize as best as possible)...

They are two different beasts, you won't get them to act exactly the same
That being said, I must admit that I am quite enjoying EnergyROM 3.0 "Warhawk" - It is the fastest and smoothest WM 6.5 Rom i've installed yet (not saying i've installed much else besides energyroms, but I am quite happy with it, and looking forward to what else he releases next for the Touch Pro

cool, i might try it out
I have juicy 8, but i might try enerygy
i cant stand juicys 8 start menu and how the scrolling is so limited and every single thing is in the start are scattered.
but the touchflo is quick ...
but i use mobile shell lol...
i hate the scrollin lags on this phone
i checked out my buddies iphone and almost considered the switch. if the iphone had a keyboard, i would have switched.
its just such a quick and smooth phone.

i think my phone runs faster than an iphone.. atleast faster than my ipod touch. Running NRG's Warhawk since Aug 11. and its still smooth as the day i flashed the rom!
I think your noticing the difference in scrolling because of the screens, capacitive vs resistive.

FireGX said:
To be honest, I don't think the iPhone is as fast as it seems. Part of the loading time is masked in the animations it uses (like when you touch an icon, it takes a little bit of time to expand teh window). It's fast, but not as fast as everyone thinks it is.
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You are correct. The iPhone uses a lot of neat tricks to to give the perception of speed and it absolutely works. However, make no mistake about it, the iPhone really is more powerful than WinMo phones.
Aside from the new 3GS using the Cortex A8 (which only the WinMo-based TG01 can match), the OSX Mobile can also utilized the newer tech in modern CPUs unlike Windows Mobile.
I have to agree with some others, though. As someone who tried the 3GS, the fastest WinMo can come is easily EnergyRom. It is probably the smoothest WinMo ROM I know of.

8525Smart said:
You are correct. The iPhone uses a lot of neat tricks to to give the perception of speed and it absolutely works. However, make no mistake about it, the iPhone really is more powerful than WinMo phones.
Aside from the new 3GS using the Cortex A8 (which only the WinMo-based TG01 can match), the OSX Mobile can also utilized the newer tech in modern CPUs unlike Windows Mobile.
I have to agree with some others, though. As someone who tried the 3GS, the fastest WinMo can come is easily EnergyRom. It is probably the smoothest WinMo ROM I know of.
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Only the iPhone has an ap for this:

The iPhone was designed from the ground up to be a touch screen friendly device, which is why it works so well. As others have said a lot of software optimization adds to that speed. I just got my wife a 3GS and have been playing around with it. It slow's down if you push it too hard.
If Microsoft would actually do something new with Windows Mobile instead of upgrading code from WM5 or older versions our phones would easily out perform it with multiple apps running. Especially with the 1ghz chips and Nvidia processors coming.
I tried other ROMs but for me the stock ROM worked the best. With the HTC update it is much faster than ever before. Keeping your memory clear your phone can be just as good as the iPhone and better in many ways. There are a lot of things the Touch Pro can do that the iPhone never will thanks to how proprietary Apple is.
If only Microsoft would stop sitting on their hands and release a brand new OS and stop upgrading....

A lot of the UI in the iPhone is graphics accelerated, very much UNLIKE Windows Mobile. Additionally, because it uses Quartz Express, it's a heck of a lot more optimized than practically any UI available for Windows Mobile, including HTC TouchFLO 3D.
I sincerely hope that this is improved in Windows Mobile 7. It has a lot of potential to provide the same smoothness as Apple delivers right now. I picked up an iPhone 3G today, and it's silky SMOOTH, but not necessarily fast...

After having qtek s100, htc touch dual, htc touch,htc diamond and htc touch pro I've finally ordered an Iphone 3GS. I've been able to have it during 2 days and have to admit it is really smooth and beautiful ! It does exactly what you want no annoying bug etc...I'm fed up with WM. Too slow, too laggy. Hopefully some like NRG has managed to make it better !

10332007 said:
If Microsoft would actually do something new with Windows Mobile instead of upgrading code from WM5 or older versions our phones would easily out perform it with multiple apps running. Especially with the 1ghz chips and Nvidia processors coming.
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With the new WinMo7 I think, and really hope, that they are rewriting the code and not just upgrading. I am anxiously awaiting the release of WinMo7 to see if it comes up and kicks some iPhone butt!

I have both devices right now and the apples scrolling is better for sure but you have to remember that only one app can run at a time. Much more performance is given to the apple vs wm.
That being said I love the fact that I can actually MULTI TASK on Windows Mobile. Which is why I upgraded to this phone. Scrolling isnt a big issue for me I think its alright (using energy rom)

Well I have been using the latest energy ROM and it is by far the fastest Rom I have used. I'm not saying it is as fast as the iPhone's animations but the rom runs smoother and faster than any other Rom I have seen befor. I'm using the 6.5 Genesis ROM.

eddyg519 said:
I have both devices right now and the apples scrolling is better for sure but you have to remember that only one app can run at a time. Much more performance is given to the apple vs wm.
That being said I love the fact that I can actually MULTI TASK on Windows Mobile. Which is why I upgraded to this phone. Scrolling isnt a big issue for me I think its alright (using energy rom)
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You can Multi Task on Iphone thanks to Jailbreak......and don't tell me jailbreaking is not safe cause CID and HardSPL unlock + flashing with a new ROM is the same

flashmp3 said:
You can Multi Task on Iphone thanks to Jailbreak......and don't tell me jailbreaking is not safe cause CID and HardSPL unlock + flashing with a new ROM is the same
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I was just gonna say that. Even after jailbreaking and multi-tasking I still feel the iPhone is more responsive than any WM device.

But the iphones are really make explosions . Win mo don`t

I dunno.... have you ever tried turning on bluetooth, gps, and wifi at the same time? My fuze gets so hot you can't touch it, I've pulled the battery before just to cool it down.

Please Mods, I implore you, close this pointless thread!
Who give a %&$* which one you like, this site is to support HTC devices which run WinMo and Android OS.
Applechians please go waste Apples bandwidth with your pointless rhetoric.

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Please Mods, I implore you, close this pointless thread!
Who give a %&$* which one you like, this site is to support HTC devices which run WinMo and Android OS.
Applechians please go waste Apples bandwidth with your pointless rhetoric.
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get a life

Your opinions on ALL OSes

Ok, basically my wife is looking into a new phone and our options are more or less limitless, she just wants advantages and disadvantages of each OS. She's not picky and doesn't always need the most popular OS, she wants form, factor, and function. I am looking for a phone that will take a sim so trying to avoid Verizon and Sprint phones. Heres my opinions on the ones I can think up.
iOS-I wouldnt touch it with a ten foot pole personally but regardless of my personal feelings if it's jailbroken it's not actually a terrible OS just a bit bland. The hardware limitations and the fact that they're still building the same updates for the 2g that they are for the 4g causes some immense limitations and I cant think of an update that made a real difference.
Android- Good but often laggy even with a snapdragon. The UI customization is nice but they're killing themselves not allowing a GPU accelerated UI. I have a Dell Streak for my "fun phone" and though I love it it does seem more appealing to have a phone that "just works" for her. I dont think android will be quite as long-lived though its doing well so far. How can one expect a UI to have devoted developers when you can get anything you want free.
Windows phone 7- Perfect business device, still in what seems almost an open beta phase and lacking a lot of basic features. More promise than any other OS but for the time being it's not living up to the hype.
BadaOS-Support? What support? plays out like a bad WebOS ripoff
Blackberry-Just the most boring thing in the world. Aside from battery life I cannot seem to realize how this OS sells well outside of the old people who dont really know how to use a phone but want something high end...
WebOS- It had it's day in the spotlight and that didn't last too long... I mean its functional but feels almost dirty compared to the more modern OSes
WM6.5- Great OS for someone who wants to devote hours and hours and hours to customizing it to be the most functional OS. Sadly the only device worth having thats wm6.5 anymore is the LEO/HD2.
These are all opinions of mine, she just wants to know the opinion of others. Thanks for your input.

What is her level of technical expertise?
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Moderate, a gaming device would be great but something with a pleasant UI is more appealing

If you don't mind about the limited hardware choice then iOS is very good, especially for newcomers. It'll probably make your life easier (less questions to answer).
Android is a different matter. The experience depends highly on what manufacturer you go for, but if you choose well then you get one of the best (functionality-wise) smartphone OSes out there together with a wide choice of hardware.
Personally I'd suggest the Nexus S (if you can cope with 16GB storage), or failing that the Galaxy S. Both are lovely devices, but the Nexus edges it with it's lovely display, GPU accelerated transitions (Android finally somewhat smooth) and Gingerbread.
Windows Phone 7? If you're a big business and/or Office user, then it's probably the easiest OS to get working with. It has good video/gaming capabilities and a GPU accelerated UI but currently suffers from limited storage space on most devices.
Choose if you love the UI or are a OneNote addict, otherwise I'd stick to the safer bet of Android/iOS for the time-being and wait for things to play out. You probably wouldn't buy a device running iOS 1 or Android 1.5 today, so I'd wait for Windows 7 to catch-up. It is good. It will be great, just in a little while.
That said you should have no problem editing/viewing Office docs or accessing Exchange email on either Android or iOS.
BlackBerry OS - used to be the pinnacle of a smartphone OS, but a lack of innovation and poor hardware has choked the platform, and RIM have said that in the future top-end BlackBerry devices will run the QNX OS they are running on the PlayBook.
WebOS - very good, but still failed to catch up fully with iOS/Android even with the recent update. That said, I think someone has to try a WebOS first - some people love it, some hate it. Limited range of apps.
WinMo 6.5 - Do not buy anymore, unless your business requires it.
Bada OS - Just no. No developers. No apps. No fantastic devices.

joeearl13 said:
If you don't mind about the limited hardware choice then iOS is very good, especially for newcomers. It'll probably make your life easier (less questions to answer).
Android is a different matter. The experience depends highly on what manufacturer you go for, but if you choose well then you get one of the best (functionality-wise) smartphone OSes out there together with a wide choice of hardware.
Personally I'd suggest the Nexus S (if you can cope with 16GB storage), or failing that the Galaxy S. Both are lovely devices, but the Nexus edges it with it's lovely display, GPU accelerated transitions (Android finally somewhat smooth) and Gingerbread.
Windows Phone 7? If you're a big business and/or Office user, then it's probably the easiest OS to get working with. It has good video/gaming capabilities and a GPU accelerated UI but currently suffers from limited storage space on most devices.
Choose if you love the UI or are a OneNote addict, otherwise I'd stick to the safer bet of Android/iOS for the time-being and wait for things to play out. You probably wouldn't buy a device running iOS 1 or Android 1.5 today, so I'd wait for Windows 7 to catch-up. It is good. It will be great, just in a little while.
That said you should have no problem editing/viewing Office docs or accessing Exchange email on either Android or iOS.
BlackBerry OS - used to be the pinnacle of a smartphone OS, but a lack of innovation and poor hardware has choked the platform, and RIM have said that in the future top-end BlackBerry devices will run the QNX OS they are running on the PlayBook.
WebOS - very good, but still failed to catch up fully with iOS/Android even with the recent update. That said, I think someone has to try a WebOS first - some people love it, some hate it. Limited range of apps.
WinMo 6.5 - Do not buy anymore, unless your business requires it.
Bada OS - Just no. No developers. No apps. No fantastic devices.
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I thank you for your reply my wife still wants WP7 but I keep trying to tell her that even though I use it it could take time to work the kinks out. She is considering android but samsung devices are hard to go with especially the galaxy S devices due to the buffer overrun issues. I think we've more or less narrowed it down to those two its just hard to pick which though she is in love with the netflix integration. I think its between the mytouch 4g and the samsung focus

The MT4G is a fantastic device. I'm sure she'd have more fun with it than WP7 and its limited options.
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Now when you say limited options what do you mean? I only ask because I recently converted to windows phone 7 after tinkering with android for 2 years and never once having something that felt 'complete.' Also is there any site that I can make one of those phone histories on or do I have to use paint?

WM: The most tested OS good and stable for business, thousands of apps, tweaks, themes, etc a lot of knowledge.
Android: Nice to play with as all is new and free but I got easily bored
WP7: So new, needs more time to get mature. Too closed similar to apple

The hardware limitations and the fact that they're still building the same updates for the 2g that they are for the 4g causes some immense limitations and I cant think of an update that made a real difference.
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No they aren't. The 2g is stuck on Ios 3.2, while the Iphone 4 is on 4.2. Plus the hardware in the Iphone 4 is just about as fast as Snapdragon, and cortex. Hell, the A4 is a Cortex A8.
Android- I like Android a lot, but some of the manufactures don't take it as seriously as I like, and some manufactures are terrible with updates.(Samsung) And the UI isn't hardware accelerated AFAIK. But very easy to customize, I like that. Manufactures can make Android great, or bad.(Motorola, I'm talking to you with your Motoblur crap)
Ios- I like Ios too, but there are a few issues with it. AT&T is the big one, and the second issue because of that is limited data. I can't say that it's a bad thing that to make it useful to my standards, you have to jailbreak it because every Android phone I've had I've rooted for it to work great. I wish Apple would come out with an Iphone with a screen bigger than 3.7inch. And I wish Steve would not have so much hatred towards Adobe, because that means no real flash for Iphone while it's fully capable of it. Frash is okay for the Iphone, but real flash would be better.
BB Os- I'll tell you the same thing I tell people I sell these to. Blackberry is a business phone, so don't expect the fun and colorful UI you see in other OSes. It is very simple to use though, but RIM is stuck on hardware that was released almost 2 years ago. The Pre is originally clocked at 600 mhz like the Droid, the chip inside the Torch which is the newest Blackberry is only at 624 mhz, like the Storm, the Storm 2, the Bold, etc etc. Also, Blackberry does not like to update their phones to the current OS, despite most of the phones having the same specs. It is what it is.
Windows Mobile 6.5- Not bad, but not great. A nice business OS though.
Windows Phone 7- I like it a lot, but no flash support right now is a killer. I don't mind it not having things like bluetooth transfer since I really don't use it, but I would like copy and paste. Also they need to hurry up and expand to different carriers! D:
Symbian- Personally I never used it, but people say it is very versatile.
Webos- I like Webos a lot, I really do. But there simply isn't enough support behind it from developers, which means a huge lack of apps compared to Android and Ios. The big thing that kills me about it, is the fact that the Pre only has a 3inch screen, even the Pre 2 has a 3inch screen despite having specs that can be compared to the Droid 2!
Bada- Samsung, so I can't expect too much from it. I haven't tried it though, and I really don't want to.

What kind of user is your wife? If she wants a phone that does games, txt, email etc... then you have to take into consideration what is the best at these?
IOS even with it's limitations is probably the most "polished" out there. Has a huge base of followers, tons of apps, and it does work out of the box. Sure it's bland in its interface and your locked in with AT&T and the iWorld of Apple. Not to mention that you can't do anything with the hardware itself.
Android: Catching up to Apple - but still not the "iPhone killer" - yet. I personally love Android - and with enough tweaking I don't experience lag on my Captivate. But.. I would highly suggest NOT getting a Galaxy S phone. Too many issues with the devices to merit getting. I would go with an HTC.
Win Mobile 7: Although this looks promising.. if I wanted a boring interface and all the junk that goes with the OS? I'd have an iPhone. And not to mention it's still in its infancy - so who knows if it will go the way of the Do Do bird?

Should also mention about Android, if she gets an Android phone but doesn't root it, then she'll have to deal with all the bloatware the carriers put on the phone.

Can someone really tell me what WP7 and iphone comparisons there really are aside from their more strict markets. I mean yeah you cant sideload apps as easy as android but what motivation do devs have to continue developing if their apps are distributed for free.

For the simple love of sharing!!!
As it have been done for many years in WM
z33dev33l said:
Can someone really tell me what WP7 and iphone comparisons there really are aside from their more strict markets. I mean yeah you cant sideload apps as easy as android but what motivation do devs have to continue developing if their apps are distributed for free.
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Android or Windows Phone 7?

I am torn between the Samsung Focus and Samsung Captivate. I like the look of WP7, but I also like the rich features of Android. I have tried out both, and honestly I like the WP7 interface and keyboard better. I am 14 so I do lots of texting and the WP7 keyboard beats Android's by a long shot, but I like the widgets and general openness of Android. Can you give me any suggestions?

Well, I also had the decision between Android and WP7. I took WP7 because Android felt a bit laggy =/ Windows Phone 7 looks simple but is very stable and there are lots of features (and the next Update will bring about 500 new ones).

I had to choose between WP7 and Android 6 month ago. I took a WP7 (an Omnia 7 because Bouygues Telecom didn't have the HTC 7 Mozart that I wanted).
I made my choice for the UI of WP7, very simple, all apps have the same UI, and no complicated non-intuitive menus. But I can't share contacts via Bluetooth or use my phone like USB-key; Generally this actions happen rarely but I see and use Metro UI and Metro UI apps every days.
I hope that my English will be good enough.

I am having HTC desire, just ordered HTC Mozart, android though good but is very laggy sometimes with horrible battery life, hope Mozart has better battery, the WP7 UI is good and simple am amazed with new features coming in Mango

I used WP7 for 3 months. Liked it very much but limitations made me crazy. It was LG Optimus 7.
Than I took SE Arc and man that's awesome. Android is miles ahead, whatever WP7 offers. And you know, battery life is a myth now. Arc is working even longer on one charge than WP7 device. As well as lagginess, it's also a myth now.
However it's a matter of personal choices.
And be careful, this thread can turn into war soon

WP7 of course!
Even had a SGS 2 for two weeks but was really disappointed with Android.. so i just bought a WP7 phone and im not chaning back anytime soon! All the features im missing will get fixed in Mango so.. =)

WP7 for me
Hi Laura331,
I originally chose Android and purchased an entry level ZTE Blade handset (also known as the orange San Fransisco) and was not very pleased with the supplied O/S so i decided to root it and run the Cyanogen mod. It was nice looking and functional but it did lag quite a bit and then i found that one of the cyanogen mod updates had a virus written into it and that my telephone bill went through the roof due to a rogue auto dial application, needless to say the device was wiped and i started again with the Japanese Jellyfish mod (also nice looking but performance was worse than Cyanogen)
After all this i was of the opinion that Android is much the same as the old WM6.5. Choose a ROM, Build, squash bugs, wait for decreased performance, wipe and repeat.
Now i still have the Blade but sorry Dom (above) i have to disagree about the resolution of the bugs that i am still seeing with every Android rom, maybe its the entry level handset. However if that is the case the argument for better hardware being needed to run Android rings true.
Anyway i then bought an HD7 and although there were a few important things missing for me i have found that i can quite easily use it as a daily driver, its smooth, literally bug free (no restarts or ROM wipes) and is very tactile, infact its everything that WM6.5 and Android isnt. Add to this the plethora of tweaks and improvments coming with Mango and you have a mature O/S (that has hit the scene amazingly quickly) almost at a par with the years old and very experienced apple iOS, i fear Android may be running to catchup sooner than expected.
Either way my personal preference is the WP7 O/S but i suggest you try both handsets and utilise the 30 day cool down period with each handset to properly make your decision.
Kind Regards,
Creamy

creamy said:
Hi Laura331,
Now i still have the Blade but sorry Dom (above) i have to disagree about the resolution of the bugs that i am still seeing with every Android rom, maybe its the entry level handset. However if that is the case the argument for better hardware being needed to run Android rings true.
Creamy
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Without a doubt these problems exist. But as you pointed, Android exists on so many different devices, also on phones with lower specs which are ALWAYS quite buggy/laggy and much worse in performance. You have no idea how WP7 or iOS would behave in those circumstances just because there is no comparison. There is a reason why 1st gen WP7 had such strict hardware limitations.
As for speed - SE Arc is exactly the same hardware as WP7 but it's even snappier.

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Without a doubt these problems exist. But as you pointed, Android exists on so many different devices, also on phones with lower specs which are ALWAYS quite buggy/laggy and much worse in performance. You have no idea how WP7 or iOS would behave in those circumstances just because there is no comparison. There is a reason why 1st gen WP7 had such strict hardware limitations.
As for speed - SE Arc is exactly the same hardware as WP7 but it's even snappier.
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Sorry, I'm going to have to stop you there.
I had an Arc (got it with my contract) along with my Omnia 7(bought it loose before), and it is not smoother than my Omnia.
While you can argue that Android has more functionality, WP7 is just smoother and far more pleasant to use (for me, IMO).

doministry said:
Without a doubt these problems exist. But as you pointed, Android exists on so many different devices, also on phones with lower specs which are ALWAYS quite buggy/laggy and much worse in performance. You have no idea how WP7 or iOS would behave in those circumstances just because there is no comparison. There is a reason why 1st gen WP7 had such strict hardware limitations.
As for speed - SE Arc is exactly the same hardware as WP7 but it's even snappier.
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SE Arc has not the same hardware, it has a MSM8255 and WP7 has a QSD8250
45nm vs 65nm and Adreno 205 vs Adreno 200 (205 is a GPU 2x faster than the 200)

if you want lag on your phone on a regular basis, android is your best bet.
all that lag on android is now a myth, is a myth.

...if you like to spend hours fiddling with your phone, flashing, tweaking, than Android is your best choice. If you like something smooth and easy to use, with maybe for the time being a little less functions, then I recommend WP7....
I used to be a WM "power user", the todays equivalent of Android, flashing and customizing whatever I could get hands on, but I now enjoy the relaxing smoothness of my HTC Mozart, just doing what I need, right out of the box....

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...if you like to spend hours fiddling with your phone, flashing, tweaking, than Android is your best choice. If you like something smooth and easy to use, with maybe for the time being a little less functions, then I recommend WP7....
I used to be a WM "power user", the todays equivalent of Android, flashing and customizing whatever I could get hands on, but I now enjoy the relaxing smoothness of my HTC Mozart, just doing what I need, right out of the box....
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I kept my Blade for flashing and playing with O/S's as that is what Android is best at, however if the stock ROM's do not improve significantly (for all android hardware) Android will be viewed by many as an alternative to WM6.5 not WP7.
It will never be my daily driver due to the virus i had, potentailly compromised open source apps without a decent antivirus (which will no doubt crucify the O/S and HW) cannot be trusted.
I guess there is an advantage to closed source
Regards,
Creamy

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Sorry, I'm going to have to stop you there.
I had an Arc (got it with my contract) along with my Omnia 7(bought it loose before), and it is not smoother than my Omnia.
While you can argue that Android has more functionality, WP7 is just smoother and far more pleasant to use (for me, IMO).
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Yes but equally WP7 is slooower in many areas like scrolling for instance.

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SE Arc has not the same hardware, it has a MSM8255 and WP7 has a QSD8250
45nm vs 65nm and Adreno 205 vs Adreno 200 (205 is a GPU 2x faster than the 200)
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Okay thanks for correction.

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Yes but equally WP7 is slooower in many areas like scrolling for instance.
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Scrolling??
Are you sure young man? Android scrolling is an abomination in comparison with WP7, infact i think it was the smoothness of operational functionality like scrolling that Xylias was referring to.
Regards,
Creamy

To the OP, Doministry is correct to say you should check out both and go with what you prefer, the ony caveat to that is that any WP7 you try right now does not have Mango which will add a ton of new features to WP7 in a couple of months time.

laura331 said:
I am torn between the Samsung Focus and Samsung Captivate. I like the look of WP7, but I also like the rich features of Android. I have tried out both, and honestly I like the WP7 interface and keyboard better. I am 14 so I do lots of texting and the WP7 keyboard beats Android's by a long shot, but I like the widgets and general openness of Android. Can you give me any suggestions?
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I have Vibrant which is related to captive an these has to be the best phones out there an there almost a year old the gpu blows anything out there out of the water an u can flash roms which makes it feel like u have a new phone every time an android is pretty smooth even do it doesn't have hardware acceleration an really wp7 is boring :-/ an future look dim an android has ics coming which is gonna add hardware acceleration also app store sucks actually my friend had WP7 an he brought it back 2 days later to get droid X
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Don't get the captivate. I rather you suffer WP7 limitations. However if you could afford a SGS2 or a HTC Sensation 4g, go for it . No lag, twice as smooth, no restrictions, better apps, real multi player games, docstogo which is pawning unreleased mango office. On the HTC you can even remove bloat without root, and it has the HTC hub.
No need to flash roms or fiddle with your phone. Unless you want to, you have the option.
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I have a vibrant. Had a HD7.

Valid arguments can be made in either direction so, ultimately, it comes down to personal taste. What do you want from your phone?
I personally feel that, compared to WP7, Android is "boring". We've had static icons since the days of Windows 3.1. Aside from Live Tiles, there is so much built into the OS that just works right out of the box...and works well. Apps will come, if that's your thing, but i wouldn't base your purchase on that.
WP7 offers a very fluid experience and does it with style. Just about everything that other phones can do will be there soon except it will be in a different context. One that i find to be new and exciting.
I'm not saying "Android Sux" or anything as it does have it's merits, it just wasn't for me. Just more "same old same old".

[Q] WP7 - a mistake?

hello friends, i have been using WP7 for almost 7months... now i kind of regret for having chosen WP7, bcuz of lack of apps n customization... i just saw my friends Android and it was so damn cool... the app selection is the best n apps have control over the phones vitaal functions like messaging ( u can replace native inbox) , start screen n so on...
now what i wanted to know is any user here who has used Android n WP7, i request your suggestion; is Android really good or though there are many apps is it not stable ?? which do u feel is better ??

You can use the search button and read through all the existing threads. Otherwise all people will do is repeat what they said before and within a day there will be huge arguments. Seriously, use the search button.
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[email protected] said:
hello friends, i have been using WP7 for almost 7months... now i kind of regret for having chosen WP7, bcuz of lack of apps n customization... i just saw my friends Android and it was so damn cool... the app selection is the best n apps have control over the phones vitaal functions like messaging ( u can replace native inbox) , start screen n so on...
now what i wanted to know is any user here who has used Android n WP7, i request your suggestion; is Android really good or though there are many apps is it not stable ?? which do u feel is better ??
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Everything is a mistake if you don't research before you buy. Like buying a 2 door porshe when you have 4 kids . Hope you learned your lesson.

I dont even think about Android anymore now that i have mango, super sleek!

Yep. Android is cool. It has all those cool stuffs. Sold my hd7 cause i need a phone that can do wifi tethering and android phones are the only phone i know that can do it right. The only thing cool about wp7 are the smooth UI but it kinda gets boring...

pillsburydoughman said:
Everything is a mistake if you don't research before you buy. Like buying a 2 door porshe when you have 4 kids . Hope you learned your lesson.
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True... I took 1 month to choose my phone, I tryed iPhone, Android, WP7, everything..
Did lots of research.. I finally bought my Omnia 7 been 8 months and no regrets, and now with Mango my iPhone and Droid friends get so jealous.. Eheh
I love it,..

I did do research, but never found out that apps would be such a problem... Thanks anyway for the replies

BellPego said:
True... I took 1 month to choose my phone, I tryed iPhone, Android, WP7, everything..
Did lots of research.. I finally bought my Omnia 7 been 8 months and no regrets, and now with Mango my iPhone and Droid friends get so jealous.. Eheh
I love it,..
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nice dude, but mango? are u a developer ? how did u get mango installed ? the warranty void installation process??

We don't need no warranty I have been flashing roms for 6 years and have never had a problem getting a phone swapped
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[email protected] said:
nice dude, but mango? are u a developer ? how did u get mango installed ? the warranty void installation process??
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Apps will become less and less a problem
A ton of new HQ apps have been released:
- IM plus (expect it to be mastered once Mango gets officially released)
- FB (now supports push)
- Vevo (!)
- AccuWeather
- Kik
With Mango:
- Spotify
- Skype
(hopefully whatsapp as well, they have the API's they need now)
plus all the other stuff like multitasking all works really great and the ease of use and productivity will increase significantly.
What more does one need, now we can also have unlimited sideload apps on Mango. Its worth the wait, it will only get better once nokia will release its mapping apps and stuff.
Some of the apps can be replaced on android because the native ones are crap, with wp7 you can ask yourself do you really need other apps or do the native ones just do their job fine.
You can install Mango and give it a go... if you still dont like it, restore back to NoDo and you will still have your warranty.

In my experience Android can get laggy, drain battery and be a bit unstable at times with apps crashing.
WP7 on the other hand is smooth and easy to use.
I don't miss any apps from Android but you may have different needs.

Get Mango on it, you'll soon change your mind.

WP7 is in it's infancy so of course it isn't going to have as much as android or ios, but it is growing.

Marvin_S said:
Apps will become less and less a problem
A ton of new HQ apps have been released:
- IM plus (expect it to be mastered once Mango gets officially released)
- FB (now supports push)
- Vevo (!)
- AccuWeather
- Kik
With Mango:
- Spotify
- Skype
(hopefully whatsapp as well, they have the API's they need now)
plus all the other stuff like multitasking all works really great and the ease of use and productivity will increase significantly.
What more does one need, now we can also have unlimited sideload apps on Mango. Its worth the wait, it will only get better once nokia will release its mapping apps and stuff.
Some of the apps can be replaced on android because the native ones are crap, with wp7 you can ask yourself do you really need other apps or do the native ones just do their job fine.
You can install Mango and give it a go... if you still dont like it, restore back to NoDo and you will still have your warranty.
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Yeah once Mango gets here he should be mostly satisfied with WP7 (since push notifications will actually work and the internet browser will actually be useable)
Also, all the "cool" stuff you're seeing on Android... It has no use. Is changing the SMS interface really necessary if the Messaging hub already works really well? It's fun to screw around with that stuff, but that's all it really is.

WP7 is how a true 'smart' phone should be. Quick, slick and beautiful in it's own way.
If you want customisation... buy an Android phone. But Android is laggy and bloated. Yeah you can change almost anything, but it feels as if the device is 'fragmented'.
WP7 has a smooth togetherness which I love.
Thumbs up MS. Keep up the good work. Mango beta is far from perfect, but MS seems to be listening to it's users!!!!

This is a loaded question...
However...
Once one decides if the limitations that the OS have make it difficult for you do the things you NEED to do it's a pretty easy decision.
Mango does indeed take the things that WP7 did and make it even better. There's not a lot of change in the deep OS strategy though. WP7 is about content and not computing.
You cannot customize it to your hearts content because the UI is built on a standing principle on UX.
Android = computer emulation
WP7 = Mobile empowerer
You can do a whole lot more on Android and it will probably stay that way as Android continues to push the limits. WP7 is more polished, more refined, more dedicated to its useful purpose. It is also much more locked down. Android is more green fields, do anything you want and how you want and with that strategy comes good at everything, master of none.

Excellent analogy. Very well put.

jessiethe3rd said:
This is a loaded question...
However...
Once one decides if the limitations that the OS have make it difficult for you do the things you NEED to do it's a pretty easy decision.
Mango does indeed take the things that WP7 did and make it even better. There's not a lot of change in the deep OS strategy though. WP7 is about content and not computing.
You cannot customize it to your hearts content because the UI is built on a standing principle on UX.
Android = computer emulation
WP7 = Mobile empowerer
You can do a whole lot more on Android and it will probably stay that way as Android continues to push the limits. WP7 is more polished, more refined, more dedicated to its useful purpose. It is also much more locked down. Android is more green fields, do anything you want and how you want and with that strategy comes good at everything, master of none.
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Great reply!

I avoided Android because of these opinions but honestly right now it is quite refined too.
It is somewhat true WP7 is having better workflow that other OSes but for me lack of features and quite boring UI after some time disappointed me.
As it was written here so many times, WP7 does it's job in some areas in elegant way.
However Mango may be the first finished and more refined version of the OS. Currently it's quite poor IMO. And quite illogical to be honest.
If I would be someone to give advice, I'd say wait till the end of the year and drop it now unless you're a dedicated MS enthusiast.
As for the above analogy - I prefer computer emulation than.

I had an omnia 7 for 6 months and now have a desire Hd. I loved the omnia and windows phone 7 for a couple of months, but I became tired of waiting for the "march" update and brought a dell streak, which within a week the screen and glass broke So got the desire HD. I have to admit I'm loving putting custom roms on this, but looking at the vids and pictures and demos of the mango update; I'm seriously considering buying one of the new set of devices, mango loaded of course. Looking at the rumours of a 16mp 4.7inch 1.5ghz HTC wp7 device, that may draw me in Wp7 is so refined and i have tried out the ie9 browser in mango and it is seriously at least twice as fast as any android browser I've used, and 5 times faster than the crappy safari browser on my ipod touch.
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Android or wp7 mango?

I am confused on which would be the better os. I can upgrade and don't know which one to go with. I do some texting surf the web and play some games. Just wandering what other people think of the two systems.

Blueknight730 said:
I am confused on which would be the better os. I can upgrade and don't know which one to go with. I do some texting surf the web and play some games. Just wandering what other people think of the two systems.
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They both have pros and cons. Android is the one to choose if you enjoy customizing you phone and messing around with it with some extra functionalities. WP7 is more usable out of the box and is smoother, but it's quite locked down as a platform. Anyway you describe yourself like a pretty average user, so it seems like WP7 could be a better option for you.

vnvman said:
They both have pros and cons. Android is the one to choose if you enjoy customizing you phone and messing around with it with some extra functionalities. WP7 is more usable out of the box and is smoother, but it's quite locked down as a platform. Anyway you describe yourself like a pretty average user, so it seems like WP7 could be a better option for you.
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I agree. Although, you might find that the openness of Android is a ton of fun. You might find yourself not so average after all. I suggest you play around with the phones at a store and get a feel for them.

Yes; openness begets depth, naturally. Guess it all depends on how you wish to use your device. Apparently, if you're looking for the smoothest homescreen, dialpad and keyboard response then WP7 is for you. If not, and willing to sacrifice microsecond differences, as well as a wealth of opportunity and option, Android might be more your thing.
Kidding aside, just depends on what you're looking for.
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sorry i don't know about mango..but android is the best ...

darenkan said:
sorry i don't know about mango..but android is the best ...
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Nice one, chicken.

If your really into games, Androids your choice, plus its got some pretty sweet music apps with customisable eqs, crossfade, you name it. Imo mango's more fluid as in smoother than Android
In the end it all depends on you. Why don't you check them both and see for you self

I'm checking Mango, it's quite smooth system, although I miss some features and freedom from Android.

i like android better, because of its many functionalities, plus you get a lot of free apps that makes your android experience better .

What carrier do you have? With sprint there is only one windows phone and i would tell you to choose most android phones over it.

My recommendation is for Android, open source and highly customizable.

For your needs, I'd go WP7. Android is better for those who want to tweak and hack their phones but if you want an overall better experience for the things you listed in your initial post, then I'd go WP7.

I actually bought and iPhone 4s, thinking UI fluidity was the most important thing, and while everything ran great I couldnt do everything I wanted I couldn't save links as, or download mp3s from websites basic things an Android can do. I ended up selling and getting gs 2 for sprint, it isn't as smooth but honestly I know now that it doesn't really matter because I can do anything freely. Most apps are free, great community support, free tethering removal of carrier iq etc etc I'm really happy with it. Windows is smooth as well but that just isn't enough these days
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I would (and have) gone with android with a HTC Sensation XE and i think personally android is way better than WP7

Sold my HTC HD7 last week cause the content is still far behind Android, there's not even a dropbox app on it
Maybe 1 year from now, i might consider again buying a windows phone but now it is still Android hands down. And Ice cream sandwich is coming. gpu accelerated UI and apps. Better animations so wp7's smoothness won't be so much of an advantage anymore. That's why i came back to android.
And the games for windows phone almost all are craps.

More device options with Android, Windows has better cloud capabilities.

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peacekeeper05 said:
Sold my HTC HD7 last week cause the content is still far behind Android, there's not even a dropbox app on it
Maybe 1 year from now, i might consider again buying a windows phone but now it is still Android hands down. And Ice cream sandwich is coming. gpu accelerated UI and apps. Better animations so wp7's smoothness won't be so much of an advantage anymore. That's why i came back to android.
And the games for windows phone almost all are craps.
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why dropbox when the cloud is integrated immensely well. Also, I've had much more fun on wp7 games than android plus I dig gamer points.

I was at at&t today and the looked at android and wp7 although wp7 looked smoother u really can't do much with it to customize. Now im getting android so does anybody know anything about lg thrill. Thanks for all the input.

I prefer Android by a large margin because it's open system, easy to customize, just works better for me. My present phone is an HTC Sensation but I also have an old HTC HD2 that is dual boot with both WP7 and Android and while I enjoy puttering around with Windows there is no way I could do without Android as my main phone OS.