After reading a bunch of reviews on the web browsing experience on Opera Mobile on the Fuze I was a little disappointed when I actually got it.
The speed is ok, but the touch navigation is really poor and I actually think I liked the BB browser on the Bold better.
So far I have ungraded to the NATF ROM and I like everything else about the phone, but I browse a lot so I'm almost on the verge of selling it.
I have also tried Skyfire, but wasn't really impressed either.
I was wondering if there is any other browser, ROM or tweeks to Opera that people have found improves the experience
I would appreciate any input, if not please PM me if you want to buy a brand new unlocked Fuze
iphone speed and scrolling is very impressing. is there anyway to speed up the touch pro to get such speeds ?
To be honest, I don't think the iPhone is as fast as it seems. Part of the loading time is masked in the animations it uses (like when you touch an icon, it takes a little bit of time to expand teh window). It's fast, but not as fast as everyone thinks it is.
But regardless, the touch pro probably won't be as fast and smooth as the iphone, but try flashing a custom rom like Energy rom. It's built to be really fast. And having WM 6.5 gives smoother scrolling (not as good as the iphone though).
FireGX said:
To be honest, I don't think the iPhone is as fast as it seems. Part of the loading time is masked in the animations it uses (like when you touch an icon, it takes a little bit of time to expand teh window). It's fast, but not as fast as everyone thinks it is.
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but you still have to admire the research/QA/testing they went through to make the iPhone seem as fast as possible...
that saying, you won't get that with WM... WM, apps share memory/processing power(while in iPhone, only ONE app gets all the resources at a time, except the music player that Apple can optimize as best as possible)...
They are two different beasts, you won't get them to act exactly the same
That being said, I must admit that I am quite enjoying EnergyROM 3.0 "Warhawk" - It is the fastest and smoothest WM 6.5 Rom i've installed yet (not saying i've installed much else besides energyroms, but I am quite happy with it, and looking forward to what else he releases next for the Touch Pro
cool, i might try it out
I have juicy 8, but i might try enerygy
i cant stand juicys 8 start menu and how the scrolling is so limited and every single thing is in the start are scattered.
but the touchflo is quick ...
but i use mobile shell lol...
i hate the scrollin lags on this phone
i checked out my buddies iphone and almost considered the switch. if the iphone had a keyboard, i would have switched.
its just such a quick and smooth phone.
i think my phone runs faster than an iphone.. atleast faster than my ipod touch. Running NRG's Warhawk since Aug 11. and its still smooth as the day i flashed the rom!
I think your noticing the difference in scrolling because of the screens, capacitive vs resistive.
FireGX said:
To be honest, I don't think the iPhone is as fast as it seems. Part of the loading time is masked in the animations it uses (like when you touch an icon, it takes a little bit of time to expand teh window). It's fast, but not as fast as everyone thinks it is.
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You are correct. The iPhone uses a lot of neat tricks to to give the perception of speed and it absolutely works. However, make no mistake about it, the iPhone really is more powerful than WinMo phones.
Aside from the new 3GS using the Cortex A8 (which only the WinMo-based TG01 can match), the OSX Mobile can also utilized the newer tech in modern CPUs unlike Windows Mobile.
I have to agree with some others, though. As someone who tried the 3GS, the fastest WinMo can come is easily EnergyRom. It is probably the smoothest WinMo ROM I know of.
8525Smart said:
You are correct. The iPhone uses a lot of neat tricks to to give the perception of speed and it absolutely works. However, make no mistake about it, the iPhone really is more powerful than WinMo phones.
Aside from the new 3GS using the Cortex A8 (which only the WinMo-based TG01 can match), the OSX Mobile can also utilized the newer tech in modern CPUs unlike Windows Mobile.
I have to agree with some others, though. As someone who tried the 3GS, the fastest WinMo can come is easily EnergyRom. It is probably the smoothest WinMo ROM I know of.
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Only the iPhone has an ap for this:
The iPhone was designed from the ground up to be a touch screen friendly device, which is why it works so well. As others have said a lot of software optimization adds to that speed. I just got my wife a 3GS and have been playing around with it. It slow's down if you push it too hard.
If Microsoft would actually do something new with Windows Mobile instead of upgrading code from WM5 or older versions our phones would easily out perform it with multiple apps running. Especially with the 1ghz chips and Nvidia processors coming.
I tried other ROMs but for me the stock ROM worked the best. With the HTC update it is much faster than ever before. Keeping your memory clear your phone can be just as good as the iPhone and better in many ways. There are a lot of things the Touch Pro can do that the iPhone never will thanks to how proprietary Apple is.
If only Microsoft would stop sitting on their hands and release a brand new OS and stop upgrading....
A lot of the UI in the iPhone is graphics accelerated, very much UNLIKE Windows Mobile. Additionally, because it uses Quartz Express, it's a heck of a lot more optimized than practically any UI available for Windows Mobile, including HTC TouchFLO 3D.
I sincerely hope that this is improved in Windows Mobile 7. It has a lot of potential to provide the same smoothness as Apple delivers right now. I picked up an iPhone 3G today, and it's silky SMOOTH, but not necessarily fast...
After having qtek s100, htc touch dual, htc touch,htc diamond and htc touch pro I've finally ordered an Iphone 3GS. I've been able to have it during 2 days and have to admit it is really smooth and beautiful ! It does exactly what you want no annoying bug etc...I'm fed up with WM. Too slow, too laggy. Hopefully some like NRG has managed to make it better !
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If Microsoft would actually do something new with Windows Mobile instead of upgrading code from WM5 or older versions our phones would easily out perform it with multiple apps running. Especially with the 1ghz chips and Nvidia processors coming.
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With the new WinMo7 I think, and really hope, that they are rewriting the code and not just upgrading. I am anxiously awaiting the release of WinMo7 to see if it comes up and kicks some iPhone butt!
I have both devices right now and the apples scrolling is better for sure but you have to remember that only one app can run at a time. Much more performance is given to the apple vs wm.
That being said I love the fact that I can actually MULTI TASK on Windows Mobile. Which is why I upgraded to this phone. Scrolling isnt a big issue for me I think its alright (using energy rom)
Well I have been using the latest energy ROM and it is by far the fastest Rom I have used. I'm not saying it is as fast as the iPhone's animations but the rom runs smoother and faster than any other Rom I have seen befor. I'm using the 6.5 Genesis ROM.
eddyg519 said:
I have both devices right now and the apples scrolling is better for sure but you have to remember that only one app can run at a time. Much more performance is given to the apple vs wm.
That being said I love the fact that I can actually MULTI TASK on Windows Mobile. Which is why I upgraded to this phone. Scrolling isnt a big issue for me I think its alright (using energy rom)
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You can Multi Task on Iphone thanks to Jailbreak......and don't tell me jailbreaking is not safe cause CID and HardSPL unlock + flashing with a new ROM is the same
flashmp3 said:
You can Multi Task on Iphone thanks to Jailbreak......and don't tell me jailbreaking is not safe cause CID and HardSPL unlock + flashing with a new ROM is the same
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I was just gonna say that. Even after jailbreaking and multi-tasking I still feel the iPhone is more responsive than any WM device.
But the iphones are really make explosions . Win mo don`t
I dunno.... have you ever tried turning on bluetooth, gps, and wifi at the same time? My fuze gets so hot you can't touch it, I've pulled the battery before just to cool it down.
Please Mods, I implore you, close this pointless thread!
Who give a %&$* which one you like, this site is to support HTC devices which run WinMo and Android OS.
Applechians please go waste Apples bandwidth with your pointless rhetoric.
Bruce Inman said:
Please Mods, I implore you, close this pointless thread!
Who give a %&$* which one you like, this site is to support HTC devices which run WinMo and Android OS.
Applechians please go waste Apples bandwidth with your pointless rhetoric.
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get a life
My Blackstone shipped with Opera Mobile 9.5 and it really had a nice look - blended in nicely with the rest of the TF3D and HTC apps.
But it has been >1 year since that, and I decided to check if there are any newer versions of Opera Mobile, because I was a little driven away by not-really-smooth and jumpy animations (in 9.5)
I'm happy to say I tried 9.7b1 and it is much smoother, and everything seems to work better, etc. The thing is, it has some fort of 'whitey' look, so quite opposite to the rest of HTC apps. I reckon 9.5 looked the same, but HTC simply made it look like the rest of their apps.
So my question is - do you know if, and if yes, when, is HTC going to adapt the new Opera's version? (of course I don't expect it to become soon, since it's still a beta, but it is gonna happen when stable is out, right?)
PS.: Oh, and BTW - do you know when is the 9.7 stable release date?
According to this page on the Opera website, Opera Mini 5 is "coming soon".
And in addition, twitter.com/opera says
Opera Mini 5 coming really soon: http://tinyurl.com/peu9fq
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The tinyurl link in the twitter post leads to a blog posting made by an Opera employee, saying:
Wanna know what's coming really soon?
Before the weekend a teaser on www.opera.com/next appeared. It was claiming that "The next generation in mobile browsing" is coming very soon. The product is Opera Mini 5 and a beta is coming very, very soon. Good times, good times...
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It seems that Opera Mini 5 is close at hand, though currently there are no details concerning new features, improvements, changes, etc., so it seems we're still in the dark for the most part.
But for all of you who regularly use Opera Mini, looks like you're in luck.
If this has been posted before, feel free to delete it
I use Opera Mini. As far as I'm concerned, it's the perfect mobile browser. However, I nonetheless have to admit that it's difficult to get excited about Opera Mini 5 if there are no details.
8525Smart said:
I use Opera Mini. As far as I'm concerned, it's the perfect mobile browser. However, I nonetheless have to admit that it's difficult to get excited about Opera Mini 5 if there are no details.
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Agree. Somebody has to have some ideas of improvements
A better download/upload manager would be nice.
Operamini, to be perfect, only needs tabs support
It needs better finger scrolling for touch screen devices.
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I use Opera Mini. As far as I'm concerned, it's the perfect mobile browser. However, I nonetheless have to admit that it's difficult to get excited about Opera Mini 5 if there are no details.
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Yes, I thought the same. But now I already use the 5 beta and I have to say it is really cool and definitely a improvement.
It's faster, more finger-friendly, has multi-tabbing and a quick favourite-starter. Great browser!
after a few days of playing around with android on my hd2, ive got to say im extremely impressed. both with the developers who made it and with the OS itself. however, after all is said and done ive also come to appreciate windows mobile alot too. it may not be super flashy, but it is by far the most functional OS on the planet.
im switching back to windows mobile, perhaps permanently. there are however a few things im going to miss about android.
1) the keyboard. i remembered the good old days of my iphone (which i could only stand for abt 2 weeks) when i wasnt afraid of typing long documents and facebook msgs.. the only difference i see between the android keyboard and the hd2 keyboard is the lack of the arrow keys in the android.. which makes it SO much better..
2) the browser.. both the default and skyfire are probably lightyears ahead of windows mobile browsers. and that really hurts to say.. they were fast, supported flash better, got stuck less.. all on an experimental android rom that still isnt finalised!
my point is.. is it possible to get the android keyboard/browser working in my hd2? if not, the keyboard atleast should be very easy to develop. you would start out with the normal hd2 keyboard and take out the stupid arrow keys and make all the other keys bigger and more android/iphone like and voila!
the hd2 is an amazing phone, WITH an AMAZING OS, but these few setbacks are the one that matter to the first time user, which in my opinion are why windows mobile is less popular..
can someone please help me out?
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after a few days of playing around with android on my hd2, ive got to say im extremely impressed. both with the developers who made it and with the OS itself. however, after all is said and done ive also come to appreciate windows mobile alot too. it may not be super flashy, but it is by far the most functional OS on the planet.
im switching back to windows mobile, perhaps permanently. there are however a few things im going to miss about android.
1) the keyboard. i remembered the good old days of my iphone (which i could only stand for abt 2 weeks) when i wasnt afraid of typing long documents and facebook msgs.. the only difference i see between the android keyboard and the hd2 keyboard is the lack of the arrow keys in the android.. which makes it SO much better..
2) the browser.. both the default and skyfire are probably lightyears ahead of windows mobile browsers. and that really hurts to say.. they were fast, supported flash better, got stuck less.. all on an experimental android rom that still isnt finalised!
my point is.. is it possible to get the android keyboard/browser working in my hd2? if not, the keyboard atleast should be very easy to develop. you would start out with the normal hd2 keyboard and take out the stupid arrow keys and make all the other keys bigger and more android/iphone like and voila!
the hd2 is an amazing phone, WITH an AMAZING OS, but these few setbacks are the one that matter to the first time user, which in my opinion are why windows mobile is less popular..
can someone please help me out?
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I was thinking about asking for a winmo version of an android keyboard, tis fantastic, so +1 for that
very interesting, I missed Opera mobile browser and touchpal keyboard when I switch to android...