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Assuming this comes out for AT&T by Christmas.
I just heard lots of reviews about how slow this is. And it looks very pretty. So does speeding this phone up involve getting rid of the sleek TouchFlo interface? Is this the best phone to get right now for someone wanting a phone with a keyboard?
Ive not seen 'lots of reviews' for the Touch Pro yet. But the ones that do seem to be out there say that TouchFlo is pretty fast, much better than the Diomond was on release.
thehyecircus said:
Assuming this comes out for AT&T by Christmas.
I just heard lots of reviews about how slow this is. And it looks very pretty. So does speeding this phone up involve getting rid of the sleek TouchFlo interface? Is this the best phone to get right now for someone wanting a phone with a keyboard?
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I don't know where you heard that? I actually have read a lot of reviews and not one of them called it slow.
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I don't know where you heard that? I actually have read a lot of reviews and not one of them called it slow.
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Having owned one for a day I'd certainly not call it quick. My TYTN II seems more responsive with the stock T-Mobile ROM.
Well I've had mine for for a week and well pleased with it, before this had a HP6915 which was really slow compared to this
I thought it was a little on the slow side to begin with compared to the cooked 6.1 rom on my Hermes - but after doing a few of the tweaks in this thread it was a totally different story, Raphael is much faster now
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I thought it was a little on the slow side to begin with compared to the cooked 6.1 rom on my Hermes - but after doing a few of the tweaks in this thread it was a totally different story, Raphael is much faster now
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Confirmed, needs a few tweaks and is a great device! Not slow at all...
TouchFLO 3D nearly comparable to speed and sensitivity of iphone (original) interface after tweaks. I wouldn't call that slow by any stretch. Compared to Tilt, no comparison. This is much faster!
See, this is why I posted a video of me using TouchFlo3D on the stock AT&T ROM when I got it... No tweaks applied. But alas, people can't search, so they feel asking questions will give them an easier and quicker answer.
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Having owned one for a day I'd certainly not call it quick. My TYTN II seems more responsive with the stock T-Mobile ROM.
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Well you seem to be more the exception than the rule, however i will keep my eye on the thread to see what people are saying until AT&T starts selling their version...crippled as it may be lol.
I just got mine this morning and i can say it wasn't slow right out of the box but with the tweaks the speed is outrageous. I've used the wizard, tytn, and tytn II and this is the nicest experience i've ever had with a phone straight out of the box. THOROUGHLY IMPRESSED!!!
This is why you have to define slow...
Otherwise it is open to interpretation
I may do the tweaks when I get one AND turn off TouchFlo. Then it should SCREAM. I've never been crazy about ICI's (Interactive Cartoon Interface)
Dunno where u get slower than tytnII My friend has a TytnII and its 1/3 the speed of this. Thats with his Touchflo turned off and no tweaks, while mine has it on and no tweaks.
All in all im satisfied with it
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Dunno where u get slower than tytnII My friend has a TytnII and its 1/3 the speed of this. Thats with his Touchflo turned off and no tweaks, while mine has it on and no tweaks.
All in all im satisfied with it
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From using both handsets......compare the time to make a choose a contact and make call for example. Anyway I'm glad you're happy with it.
how can i get www browsing like safari and ipod touch? it really sucks in winmo and every browser ive tried. i have to tap links many times to load and scrolling is terrible. double tapping space bar when typing like here doesnt add a .. no auto correction whwn typing. page zom kinda sucks too. scrolling and zooming is very slow jerky and not accurate. all this is a horrable experience. what can i do to make it better?
thanks so much
As much as I'd like to give you a better answer, until Skyfire optimizes the browser for the TP2, we're stuck with jagged (Skyfire) or no flash (Opera) options...
Skyfire should release something new soon for the 800x600 screens though...
--Opera
Supposedly you can get Opera Mini to work with Flash. I had it working one time, but then I tried update something and it broke it. I'm not messing with it anymore until the thing is unlocked and I can reflash ROMs to it.
O.P, i'm so with you on this one. It's almost as if you read my mind. Do you know that most times, i turn on WMWifirouter and tether my iPod Touch because the web browsing on it is eons better than on Win Mobile.
The one and only gripe i've ever had against Win Mo has been the terrible browsers and bad webpage renderings.
I think it's the combination of the not so great Qualcomm MSM processor and Opera Mobile's general resource-hungry crappiness that sucks. I'm so down right now.
I read on some other site about some farrrrrr outtttttt rumor that the snapdragon HTC Leo/Touch HD2 might be coming to Sprint around christmas time (codenamed Adonis...or something). I'll see if this rumor gains traction within 30 days and offload my TP2.
I want good www on my tp2 for when I am not able to use my iPod touch and for downloading to the tp2. I don't care one bit about flash. I don't want flash ads and don't use flash except the sites that totally require it on my MacBook pro.
I'm totally desperate to have good www on my tp2.
Nopefully that will be one of the main improvements we get with 6.5. IF we get 6.5.
Coming soon
worwig said:
Nopefully that will be one of the main improvements we get with 6.5. IF we get 6.5.
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We *are* getting 6.5 and it's looking like it will be soon. But, even if the manufacturers failed us on the update, cmonex will shortly deliver HardSPL and you'll have whatever you want.
As for the web browser, a webkit-based browser is currently in the making for winmo devices: http://www.dorothybrowser.com/?pn=home
EDIT: I decided to install this and see where they stand. The browser is actually pretty nice and has some real promise.
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As much as I'd like to give you a better answer, until Skyfire optimizes the browser for the TP2, we're stuck with jagged (Skyfire) or no flash (Opera) options...
Skyfire should release something new soon for the 800x600 screens though...
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Get Opera 9.7 35461 and download Fixoperaflash. Opera 9.7 IS FAST!!!!! It has some cool features and stuff too. And super fast panning and zooming.
9.7 is total crud. I've tried it as I said I tried every browser and tapping on links is not good nor is speed/scrolling and pages don't look nearly as they should. I wish someone would make a www browser and have a forum we can post feedback on and they listen and implement changes. Cus if they did what I and I'm sure all you guys want then www would be great. Mostly I mean performance and formatting pages.
Well the 9.7 build I tried was crud. Don't know if it's the same as you mention but I am guessing it is. Unless a new build came in the last 2 weeks that makes major improovments.
buggs1a said:
how can i get www browsing like safari and ipod touch? <cut out whining> what can i do to make it better?
thanks so much
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Buy an iPhone.
How many threads are you going to make about this topic?
-Daniel
dweidman said:
Buy an iPhone.
How many threads are you going to make about this topic?
-Daniel
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Thank you.
BumpUpppppp
Hmmmmmmmmmm
I am debating on getting either a MT3G or a Touch Pro 2. I have a G1 now. I love it but I want something different. I am able to get both phones from T-Mobile at the price of a 2 year contract. Ive had a boat load of problems with my G1 and I'm actually on my 5th. I'm on my 2nd one in less then 2 weeks believe it or not. I told TMO I'm tired of them sending me refurbished pieces of crap I want something BRAND NEW the only thing they can do is offer me a new phone at contract price. They have phones they'd give me for free but do I really need aother razr? So if anyone could tell me what should I get I would apperciate it very much! I need to tell TMO by Monday. They set a stupid deadline for me, probably because of "Project Black".
I have both. For a good business type phone, I would highly recommend going with the PRO2. I often find myself resorting back to the PRO2 if I have to do a lot of multitasking. Copy and pasting documents while browsing the internet (4x different windows) with background music playing. It's a great device for multitasking - I can't stress that enough! To have the GPS on while browsing for an address on google shows no sign of memory struggle! The email apps is great on the PRO2 unlike the MT3G. Email will not sync at all (read and unread is a major problem in the EMAIL app of the MT3G). GMAIL app is great on the MT3G however.
The MT3G is a great all around phone. It does just enough for basic browsing and general gameplay but the whole WORD editing is lacking unless you pay $30 for D2GO (Outrageous price compared to the iphone). Memory intensive game is utterly useless. Games such as Spiderman and Assassin's Creed is horrendously slow. Regarding memory, I'm quite anal about the memory on my phone and the implementation that android has with no registry is wonderful. Especially installing and uninstalling apps from the market. Multitasking on the MT3G is not even comparable! Even when rooted and using compcache w/ back swapping/LS is nothing like raw built in memory.
Like I said. It all depends on how you want to use the phone. I prefer the multitasking, ability to edit/cut/paste word documents FOR FREE, rock solid performance and soon to be release 6.5 update of the PRO2. I appreciate the simplicity of the MT3G but the overall development is still too young to fully appreciate the OS. Of course, this is a personal preference but try out the two. I highly recommend that you be truthful to yourself because if you lie just to be bias to either phone, it'll leave you wanting more.
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I have both. For a good business type phone, I would highly recommend going with the PRO2. I often find myself resorting back to the PRO2 if I have to do a lot of multitasking. Copy and pasting documents while browsing the internet (4x different windows) with background music playing. It's a great device for multitasking - I can't stress that enough! To have the GPS on while browsing for an address on google shows no sign of memory struggle! The email apps is great on the PRO2 unlike the MT3G. Email will not sync at all (read and unread is a major problem in the EMAIL app of the MT3G). GMAIL app is great on the MT3G however.
The MT3G is a great all around phone. It does just enough for basic browsing and general gameplay but the whole WORD editing is lacking unless you pay $30 for D2GO (Outrageous price compared to the iphone). Memory intensive game is utterly useless. Games such as Spiderman and Assassin's Creed is horrendously slow. Regarding memory, I'm quite anal about the memory on my phone and the implementation that android has with no registry is wonderful. Especially installing and uninstalling apps from the market. Multitasking on the MT3G is not even comparable! Even when rooted and using compcache w/ back swapping/LS is nothing like raw built in memory.
Like I said. It all depends on how you want to use the phone. I prefer the multitasking, ability to edit/cut/paste word documents FOR FREE, rock solid performance and soon to be release 6.5 update of the PRO2. I appreciate the simplicity of the MT3G but the overall development is still too young to fully appreciate the OS. Of course, this is a personal preference but try out the two. I highly recommend that you be truthful to yourself because if you lie just to be bias to either phone, it'll leave you wanting more.
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How is the touch screen because I know the MT3G and the G1 have the same type of capasitive screen. I've never used a resistive touch screen phone. AM I able to use my fingers or and I anchored to the stylist? And as far as app is there a market place similar to the Android Market?
I have an official 6.5 upgrade program for my WM phone but......
I haven't seen anything about a performance boost in this upgrade. It looks like the improvement is in how pretty something is. Well, after 4 years of using and programming iPhones I got tired of all the problems, attitudes (in Apple and AT&T), and limitations (like NO flash player). I thought about an Android OS but was talked into WM 6.1. Because of terrific programmers like I find on sites like this, I used apps and tweaks to make my Touch Pro2 work as good as my iPhones (believe it or not). I even gave away my last iPhone a couple of weeks ago. Now, I have a WM phone that does what I did on the Apple phone but better. With this WM OS 6.1 I have a supersensitive screen, all the apps I had on my other phones, and with Skyfire 1.5, I have a pretty good browser with a flash player. Sooo...will I get anything more out of upgrading to 6.5? Please let me know? I would even appreciate it if you could contact me at [email protected].
John C
Which browser seems to be the best in terms of speed and useability?
Dolphin HD, Firefox, Skyfire, Android Browser, Opera (or mini opera)?
If you have another preference, please recommend.
I always like stock browser, but the new beta Dolphin HD 6.0 is pretty nice as well. Browser preference is really something you can decide. try them out and see which one you like best
I've been using Miren browser since my Vibrant and been very happy with it.
Hope that helps....
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Stock but I'm looking into another one, for some reason I wasn't too happy with Dolphin, maybe I'll try it again
My favorites are stock and Dolphin Mini.
Miren Browser has been the best browser I've used so far other than stock.
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Opera mobile is definitely the best
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Opera mobile is definitely the best
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Yes, Opera Mobile is the best when you have unlimited 4G data and the 4G connection is good, Not only can it do flash videos, you can actually browse with many LIVE tabs open. Yes LIVE TABS, meaning that just because you switch to another tab that you were viewing will still be streaming audio and video in the background, just like on your desktop at home! I don't know any other mobile browser that does this.
Unfortunately, we all know tmobile 4G is iffy at locations, and connection will drop to 2G, but that's alright, because then Opera Mini comes to the rescue and is definitley the fastest most reliable browser on 2G connection, PERIOD!
Even though Opera Mini can't do flash, it does download the audio or video for you to enjoy at your leisure and it will "multitask so you can listen to the audio/video you just downloaded in the background while you surf the web, which is mostly reading articles and looking at pictures anyway, and Opera Mini Excels at this!
Finally, Both Opera browsers render the webpages on their server, giving you unprecedented speeds and saving you data usage. This is a huge plus, because I have the 5GB unlimited plan and I still hit 5GB before my billing cycle ends, although I've never had tmobile "down throttle" me I can feel safe to budget my data using Opera Mobile/mini, and if I want to save battery life and just read forums and articles online without the need for flash videos, I set the settings to only use 2G and browse with Opera Mini.
The other browsers are nice and flashy, but when you get to have true "multitasking" with active widows, fast browsing without the need for 4G, and the benefit of saving battery life and data usage, you can't beat Opera Mini and Mobile...
I have been using Boat Browser mini for a couple of months now. Its not in the market anymore you have to go to www.boatgo.net to get it. Its fast, and easy to use love it. Its has features like screen capture and the copy text feature makes it easy to. Also has themes.
another vote for Miren...although it's not working on my gt10.1, so I'm using dolphin on there.
I'm going to go with Opera Mini and Miren but it's really your preference. Opera mini excels at slow data speeds which is great in a 2g only zone
I used to use Miren, but it hasn't been updated in a while.
I decided to install Opera one day and was blown away by how smooth the scrolling was compared to Miren (which is pretty good in its own right). It was very fluid, which our phones have always lacked relative to the apple phones.
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I used to use Miren, but it hasn't been updated in a while.
I decided to install Opera one day and was blown away by how smooth the scrolling was compared to Miren (which is pretty good in its own right). It was very fluid, which our phones have always lacked relative to the apple phones.
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Thats exactly what got me hooked; the fast page rendering and the smoothness of the scrolling. Just as good scrolling as iphone now.
erikikaz said:
I used to use Miren, but it hasn't been updated in a while.
I decided to install Opera one day and was blown away by how smooth the scrolling was compared to Miren (which is pretty good in its own right). It was very fluid, which our phones have always lacked relative to the apple phones.
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Are you talking about opera mobile or opera mini when you're referring to the smooth scrolling? Or is it like that on both?
I have Opera Mini, Dolphin and Skyfire, and I only use Dolphin now, not that I think any of the three are good at all but what else can we do
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Are you talking about opera mobile or opera mini when you're referring to the smooth scrolling? Or is it like that on both?
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opera mobile